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to those of us that have 'first 'hatch' « Thread Started on Jun 22, 2006, 11:53am »
to those of you that nest micro insects........i am in one now. you can see at 60x they are quite large. to the eye, a large dot.
for 9 years: these are the thrip looking ones with feathered wings and can
actually 'spring' if you don't get them as they emerge, once their wings unfold, they are gone.............(catch me if you can)
they do not come from my lesions. they just start coming thru the skin layers.
i have black ones emerge that are too small for mydigital blue scope to pick up. i can see them with the reg. one though. lots of effort involved in this endeavor.
my skin becomes stiff in patches. that is where they emerge. on the head it feels like a goose-bump patch. i shake them off. they have been taken from the seams of my clothes.
Re: to those of us that have 'first 'hatch' « Reply #1 on Jun 22, 2006, 5:50pm »
i lost count, but i just sat and concentrated for 2 hours in order to feel and see them exit .
i took off 50+. most were the thrip looking ones, but a few others are coming out as well. these can jump like springtail, but have large eyes and feather wings.
i'll post them on my image site. the pics are taken thru water.
i wonder if the feathered wings could be the feather that cilia spoke about?
it took me a long time to learn how to capture them.
i'm of course disappointed that no one on this forum appears interested enough to even respond.
Re: to those of us that have 'first 'hatch' « Reply #3 on Jun 22, 2006, 9:15pm »
thanks QH,
i've added the pics now. check out the feathered wings.
they "spring" before the wings unfold, you have to catch them immediately as they emerge or not at all. i'm thinking they could be some form of collembola?
my friend has morgellons, not lyme, does not have the myiasis part either, so i realize this does not occur with everyone.
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Re: to those of us that have 'first 'hatch' « Reply #4 on Jun 22, 2006, 11:03pm »
I hear ya Ruth. I am hatching at a rate that has been unseen until now. The last two weeks have been pretty bad. I cant take this much longer. I hope it gets better for you.
I hope you'll check back on this thread and that you'll answer these questions:
When you take the photos - are they alive?
If they are dead - how did they die?
What is that one with the fat body among the rest of the skinny ones? Is it a different insect? It reminds me of a bumble bee, except not fuzzy.
What about those pink ones? Same as the brown striped ones you think?
Are those all the same insect species or do they differ?
Do they all hatch out of the same place on your body or anywhere?
Do you know when a hatch is going to happen? How long in advance?
Does it hurt when an insect exits?
When they exit, then what? Do they fly away? Singly or in Groups?
Can those pink ones fly?
What about those with the feather-like wings? That is not damage, but actual spread out feather-like formations? (Photo Number Six - really looks like feathers for wings - but Photo Number Seven takes the prize! Those definitely look like feathers)
On Photo Number 1, what is that pink cluster in the middle?
Is that biofilm - the clear whitish stuff near the pink insect in Photo Number 2?
Joined: Feb 2006 Gender: Female Posts: 797 Location: California
Re: to those of us that have 'first 'hatch' « Reply #7 on Jun 26, 2006, 7:25pm »
Ruth, just became aware of your photos today. some really clear shots! I have lots of questions too. I have a patch of really hard skin around my collar bone i know its because of morgellons. it itches, feels like alligator skin or leather literally. my question is... could someone have these hatch without noticing it because they are so small? or in a place you cant see withouta mirror? oh and have you tried to identify it.? thanks for posting the pics.
Re: to those of us that have 'first 'hatch' « Reply #9 on Jun 27, 2006, 4:53pm »
hi everyone, my computer crashed after rense.com with cliff last week.
i am trying everything i know to get it up.
i really want to talk about the micro insect part of this.
it took me 3 years to be able to see and capture the insects. focus, bright light , and sweat. it is not easy, but possible. it takes perserverence and patience.
i'm at the unemployment office. gotta get off the machine. i have lots more to say to help people be able to see them.... if you are one of the unlucky ones that has this included in the mix.
if i need to know something important, please e-mail me. i will check my e-mail twice a week........i really hope someone tithes me a tower, SOON, i can't stand it without my computer! stormysky22000@yahoo.com
Re: to those of us that have 'first 'hatch' « Reply #10 on Jun 28, 2006, 2:23pm »
taratula, i am excited to your your experience with myiasis. have you identified any species? how were you able to capture them?
questionhair below is my story......it should answer your questions.
i understand the rejection of this phenomenom. it appears to me to be a co-infection of morgellons, which appears to be a co-infection of lyme....for many of us.
i worry that this does go on with others, hopefully... if it is happening with you and you can't see them .... this will guide you.
because of cliff mickelsons writings. this has begun to make sense to me. they appear to nest in the callus that appears as skin. please review the callus formation.
i absolutely have seen micro-insects emerge from the callus of my skin. i believe morgellons could be their food and shelter source? just as if i were a big aphid home. i believe the morgellons to be a total webwork growing through us. i believe they melt the callus down to form the clear tubes, therein they lie. the matrix makers. i have all 7 forms of 'fibers' cliff describes.
i will tell you how i finally was able to capture them after much dilligent focus and effort. i knew some of the 'stuff' turned into micro insects from an experiment i did using a terrarium.
it was past my 4th summer infected. i was in apache junction, az. i had just been to dr. amin. he said bring me something other than 'stuff'. i had been unable to do this previously, although i tried. i was very active. i sat up in a closed hot space that had a table with a bright light, with graph paper on the table. it started good about 10pm. a goosebump-like wave of a patch of skin and on my head would occur. i would shake and gently sweep the variety sizes of splinter-look, thorn-look, grass-look pieces onto the graph paper, continually scanning the paper.( some turn adult in a blink of the eye, some take over a month.) as soon as one of the pieces would start to move, i would (with a wet end pin) scoop it up into dr. amins vial. it took 2 nights of dilligence to gather the 2 needed vials. his diagnosis was: myiasis; hymenoptera/diptera. this was in october 2000.
1-2 weeks before a good hatch, i will get sick, increased edema, night sweats, chills, bad flu-like feeling. many sand-like particles emerge.
the yellow one i saw come out of my honeycombed shoulder skin, (from a pore or a freckle). thank you sweet Jesus, as my brain wants to reject this too!
i wonder if the yellow one (has feather wings) is female? could her emerging call in area males to propagate? how do they keep it going year after year? are the predominant ones geographic specific?
how do the ones that are nymph (the straight one) get on me if it wasn't from the callus? they cant fly, walk or jump.. why can i feel them moving up to emerge, see and capture them if this is not happening?how can i see flight from me and not to me? if this is an illusion and that is why all the dop diagnosis exist....(schizoprenics reality IS.. to them, and experiments splicing it in to? has already been done) where do i get alll of these insects? the ones during the day........the ones at night? the springtail thrips, the flying black ants, the micro wasps, the phorid flies? A SCOPE IS NEEDED. AT LEAST 10X. some i can only visualize with a more powerfu scope than the digital blue.
YES, I HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN THEM EMERGE MANY TIMES! MAYBE WE CAN MAKE SOME MONEY BETTING ON THIS FREAK SHOW!
IF YOU FEEL MOVEMENT UNDER YOUR SKIN......
1. FOCUS........on the tickly, movement area. the skin tightens, the pores enlarge. it works out of the callus skin.
2. BRIGHT LIGHT: artificial or sun will illuminate the insect scale. look from different angles until you spot movement.
3. SWEAT: will give you time to see and capture them.
DURING A 'HATCH' i have heavy activity between the hours of 2p-4p and from 10p-2a with lesser activity in between.
i hope this opens dialog..... i may be laughed at, ridiculed, and not believed, but God let me see it..........He is in control and i wrote the truth as i know it.
Re: to those of us that have 'first 'hatch' « Reply #11 on Jun 28, 2006, 4:06pm »
Ruth:
You've found methods to gather specimens, have spent a few years observing the hatch cycles and the signals that alert you to hatches, you've noted the hours of increased activity, have gathered specimens and remarked on their differences and similarities, have submitted insects for identification, have wondered about the meaning of the different types and the locations they emerge from . . .
You've photographed the specimens.
You said in an earlier post that it took you 3 years to be able to see and capture the insects. At the end of your post, you describe what has to be done to see these. And, that they have to do with the callus and fibers.
There's so much to be learned, and first and foremost I hope that more doctors and scientists will take the time to look and will believe their patients when the symptoms being related are so unusual. To diagnose Delusions of Parasites without ruling out Parasitic infection is poor medical practice.
Ruth, thank you for taking the time to share your findings. You've endured hours, weeks, months, and years of experiencing what most people don't believe can happen. I hope the medical community can come up with answers and relief and an end to this suffering so that you can enjoy days and nights with friends and family, work again, have a home again, and your life back.
QH
PS: I hope you get your computer fixed or another soon so you can continue your work.
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Re: to those of us that have 'first 'hatch' « Reply #12 on Jun 28, 2006, 10:49pm »
I'm of course disappointed that no one on this forum appears interested enough to even respond. Ruth
How very interesting. I guarantee I'll respond. I've studied what I have for two years, and I'd like to know who sees the things that I see. I've been searching for posts that describe in detail what others find on and in their bodies and clothes--and everywhere else in the house, car, and BIG superstore. New posters here will glean lots of helpful info, too. I have a couple of doctor appts. and my grandson, wife, and great grandson who live in Seattle, are in town for two weeks. Grandson is going to install a whole new backyard fence with the help of my son and son-in-law. But, when I can grab a few minutes, I'll be here, responding to your post, Ruth.
Whenever I am tempted, whenever clouds arise, When songs give place to sighing, when hope within me dies, I draw the closer to Him, from care He sets me free; His eye is on the sparrow, and I know He watches me
Re: to those of us that have 'first 'hatch' « Reply #13 on Jun 29, 2006, 11:58am »
thanks, i do feel ostracized and ridiculed, even within morgellons bizaredom there is judgement......and i want mainstream to hear me? laugh, laugh. its up to God now, i've done all i know to do.
but.. i have just a few more things to say, for the record, before this thread becomes lost. AND TO THE ONES WHO DO HEAR ME. THANK YOU & GOD BLESS.
unfortunately, this is my truth and i forgive those that do not hear this and am grateful they do not live within my reality.
i have photos of the honeycombed skin, the darker insect, the yellow insect, etc. unemployment computer does not allow me to access them, so you will have to open them. i think the honeycomb skin is under the lesion and skin album.
SPECIFICS ON EMERGENCE: i visually watched these come through the skin.
each appear as two different, but from the same family; antennae, wings, behavior.
1. the dark colored dash lies parallel within the skins' grain; as a cedar splinter would appear. the tail end breaks thru the skin first. with intermittant bursts of energy, it works its body to lie on top of the skin. it begins squirming its curved up tail, its' legs unfold, it squirms to a standing position, begins squirming until the feather wings open, it then flys off.
2. the yellow one was extra tickly emerging. it came from a swollen honeycombed section of shoulder skin. the angle of view was perfect! it emerged from the pore or freckle within the swollen skin. it was bent backwards into a V that was then folded into a circle. it would squirm and rest until it exited, straightened out its' body, unfold its legs, squirm to unfold the wings. it would then fly off.
REFLECTION OUT LOUD: my experiments show me that my skin liquifys with heat and moisture, spews out colored blinking balls of various colors, unite into a tube that appears (to me) to build up the callus that comprise the top layer of my skin, which is continally thickening.
i believe the mass pre -hatch exodus of sand-like particles COULD with its' many cutting edges, open pathways (i have grown the tubes from them also), the sweat and heat from outside and from inside (the insect's heat, expecially with movement, may liquify the path, as they appear to just melt on through (as do the thick black fibers that lie parallel with my skin) to exit.
Joined: Feb 2006 Gender: Female Posts: 797 Location: California
Re: to those of us that have 'first 'hatch' « Reply #14 on Jun 29, 2006, 9:58pm »
so is heat and moisture a bad thing or a good thing.?? wondereing if a vaporizer would be a way of purging these things out? i have absolutley no problem beliving this. i love the betting idea if i had bet everyone that didnt beleive me id have a fat wallet by now. i once felt something on my face that was so horrid. the muscles on my face contracted it was like birth contractions. something had taken control of that muscle. i was too new to this and just wigged out didnt want to see what it was only happened once. but im pretty sure something was hatching. i dont care what people think anymore i want to get well. so start placing those bets.
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Re: to those of us that have 'first 'hatch' « Reply #15 on Jun 29, 2006, 10:13pm »
Ruth mine are much bigger than yours and so far 14 different kinds of insects have exited my body. I havent identified any as some are so strange looking I just didnt want to know and after walking out of the hospital in NY...where they saw this happen I was on my own for a long time. Self treating...you know. Now I have a doc but I have so many issues going on he is taking an approach where first he blasts one thing then another and its been hell.
I may have macro ones I dont know...They hatch sooner now but a yr ago or so they hurt like hell and ate their way out. With diligence and listening to you guys I have avoided the lesions. And I do mean its a process to keep my skin clear. Most emerge alive, some come out dead. I am able to mostly hide this but its a nightmare beyond anything I could have ever tthought or imagined.
I applaud your tenacity Ruth, but Im about ready to call it a day.
I could live with the other crap somewhat ....but the myasis....I cant take it anymore.
In all this time all I have done is gotten them to hatch sooner. I remember when first treating....they just started walking out....breasts, head, legs. My first pesticide treatment I had maybe 200 or more come out dead....
Enough with the horror story/ I need to talk to you. And I no longer care whose sensabilities I infringe upon.
Be well
« Last Edit: Jun 29, 2006, 10:16pm by Taratula38 »
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Re: to those of us that have 'first 'hatch' « Reply #16 on Jun 30, 2006, 10:56pm »
thanks, i do feel ostracized and ridiculed, even within morgellons bizaredom there is judgement......and i want mainstream to hear me? laugh, laugh. its up to God now, i've done all i know to do. Ruth
You're an amazing lady, Ruth. You write like a researcher, which is what you are, having diligently studied countless insects and organisms for such a long time--to everyone else's benefit. I believe your rewards will be many. God has, and always will take care of you and bless you. And Ruth, I haven't forgotten to respond to your previous, 'first hatch' post. I'll begin tomorrow. Hugs
Whenever I am tempted, whenever clouds arise, When songs give place to sighing, when hope within me dies, I draw the closer to Him, from care He sets me free; His eye is on the sparrow, and I know He watches me
Joined: Dec 2005 Gender: Female Posts: 293 Location: Oklahoma City
Re: to those of us that have 'first 'hatch' « Reply #17 on Jul 1, 2006, 10:59pm »
its up to God now, i've done all i know to do. Ruth
I finally made it. Had a power outage. Everyone and his uncle are determined to stay cool. Ruth, wonderful imagry re the phorid fly. The pictures were icing on the cake. Saw your photo, too. You look so happy, in spite of watching all the horrific, unimaginable creatures that exit your body. Other than ladybugs and roly polys, I'm terriied of all insects. Right now the June bugs give me a hissy fit if I step outside to retrieve my Pom, Sugar. It's truly a wonder that I don't stroke out. Does the medical establishment recognize human infestation of the phorid fly? Is it rare? In the 2 1/2 years since onset, I've never seen a fly of any kind here. Found a dead one once on the stove top. Black, tiny. My question tonight is very important to me, and possibly others. My three biggest concerns at this time are the small white, shiny worms (or grubs) that seem to be everywhere on me and my clothes, and the white, dandruff-looking flakes that hop and jump even though, like the worms, they are eyeless, mouthless, legless, wingless, and eyeless. I'm also seeing the itty bitty worms under my skin. Squeeze the tiny white bump, and out pops the worm. They're allover my clothes, too. Also, most every place on my body there are white, sprouty things that emerge from my skin if I disturb them. Rub a place, and they start popping up, even in areas 3-4 inches away. What in God's name are they, I ask. And, every single thing I've found (except the smooth worms) for a long time now, are made of crystal threads, or resemble grotesque ice sculptures. A dozen or so white crystal-like threads seem to be the beginning of everything that follows. I often wonder if I have candida and not Morgs. Within the past six months I've had thrush and athletes foot. Fingernails a problem, also. If anyone recognizes a symptom here, I'd like to know. So little time, and so much I don't know. Thanks for listening. God bless.
Whenever I am tempted, whenever clouds arise, When songs give place to sighing, when hope within me dies, I draw the closer to Him, from care He sets me free; His eye is on the sparrow, and I know He watches me
Re: to those of us that have 'first 'hatch' « Reply #18 on Jul 3, 2006, 4:04pm »
briefly, just to let everyone know.........
my doctor is willing to observe this phenomenon. although i put out stuff and micro insects daily, during a 'hatch' i put out many. it will be easy for her to see my claims. the thrips are many.
their eggs are usually laid on plant tissue and inserted into small slits. HOW ARE THEY ABLE TO NEST IN THE 'CALLUS' OF MY SKIN? some reproduce parthenogenetically (asexual). this would explain how the eggs continue to be produced,
i tried to get a derm from seattle to watch during a hatch, he refused, said only lab work is worthwhile, and continued belittling and ridiculing me..........
CAN'T WAIT TO BITE HIS ASS! i WILL prove what i write because God finally led me to a wonderful caring (busy) doctor. finally i have help.
too bad financial doesn't come through. its stressful being ill and broke to boot. anyways..........happy 4th of july everyone
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