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Post by bannanny on Jul 14, 2009 17:59:47 GMT -5
Being I live in California and the state is broke, not only has my SSI been cut by 70.00 a month now, but they've just discontinued my dental as well. I made a dentists appt. about 6 weeks ago but had to cancel cuz I was in a bad morgie state. The day I was getting ready to make another appt. was the same day I found out my coverage had been cancelled. It was my fault actually... I waited too long to make an appt. as it was. But now I don't know what to do.... my teeth aren't well. I already have a partial that doesn't fit right. Does anybody have any ideas as to what I can do? I have cavities and my teeth feel like they're disintegrating. I've been swishing my mouth out with red wine and I use mouthwash about 5 times a day too. But they're startin to hurt pretty bad... especially when I eat anything. I just don't know what to do about it... any ideas? big hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by 2.99(plus~tax) on Jul 14, 2009 18:35:02 GMT -5
Being I live in California and the state is broke, not only has my SSI been cut by 70.00 a month now, but they've just discontinued my dental as well. I made a dentists appt. about 6 weeks ago but had to cancel cuz I was in a bad morgie state. The day I was getting ready to make another appt. was the same day I found out my coverage had been cancelled. It was my fault actually... I waited too long to make an appt. as it was. But now I don't know what to do.... my teeth aren't well. I already have a partial that doesn't fit right. Does anybody have any ideas as to what I can do? I have cavities and my teeth feel like they're disintegrating. I've been swishing my mouth out with red wine and I use mouthwash about 5 times a day too. But they're startin to hurt pretty bad... especially when I eat anything. I just don't know what to do about it... any ideas? big hugs ~~ bannanny yup, yup, yup! I do! Do you have any anise in the house? If not, get some. Try your baking cupboard for anise extract, that'll do. put some on your gums and teeth and rub it around a little on the hurt area. Either with your fingers or gently with the toothbrush. That should take some of the pain away. White willow bark is what they make asprin out of nanners, if you don't want to take otc pain medication. I have some in the house for general aches n' pains and headaches n'stuff. And lastly, that's why I sent you the peppermint soap. Take your kitchen knife and slice off a piece. Brush your teeth with that. (GENTLY) no, I'm not shItting you, google tooth soap, you will see what I'm talking about. Toothpaste has very bad stuff in it. Actually creates cavities instead of preventing them. Alot of research to back that up, or I wouldn't state that. Don't use the Anise bar for tooth soap, just the peppermint. I made the peppermint special so you could use it orally. love you! Ali
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Post by bannanny on Jul 14, 2009 19:02:13 GMT -5
You're awesome Ali! I'll do that starting today and let you know how it works. I was just gonna send you another pm telling you how much I love the soaps. If anyone wants to know what we're talkin about here... Ali makes soaps and she knows what she's doin! They're amazing, soothing and all natural. I recommend them to everyone here!!!
Thanks Ali, you're the best!
hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by 2.99(plus~tax) on Jul 14, 2009 21:26:58 GMT -5
Oh nanners, thank you so much for the compliment! Comming from a morgie, who is sensitive to everything THAT MEANS SO MUCH TO ME that they are (FIRST DOING NO HARM)....LOL which is my philosophy on how we should have been treated from the start.!
I created the recipe just for us.....well selfishly for me. I talked with Sandra with Opaline and am sending her my pure Castille soap and her daughter the Detox bar and clay bars. I hope they like them.
Did I send you a clay bar?
I'm working on liquid shampoo and body wash this weekend. After I am done with that...should be ready in about 3 weeks.....um....
would you like to be my guinne pig again? now is the time to custom blend essential oils. Any thoughts?
hope the tooth soap works for you. Give it some time though....nothing works over night. and go easy in the begining. Your teeth will feel so clean, like I just got home from the dentist clean, that you will want to brush harder, more often. But don't though. Twice a day is enough.
Loves, Ali
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Post by abbby on Jul 14, 2009 22:37:40 GMT -5
Check Schools of Dentistry in your area. Some offer dental work at reduced rates or even for free to get the practice in (if you're comfortable with that). I'm familiar with one in my area (Pittsburgh) but have never gone myself.
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Post by ctbarb on Jul 14, 2009 22:41:20 GMT -5
Sorry about your teeth Bananny...same thing happened to me. Gee, wish I knew Ali back then, could have saved me some serious pain! I had abcesses on most of the roots that finally ruptured and when they did, it loosened the roots and within a couple of months, the teeth fell out by the roots! I used everything possible under the sun for relief, but Sambuca (Anise liqueur) did the trick! I just swished some of that around in my mouth for as long as I could stand it, then brushed with baking soda, and swished with the 'Buca again and spit it out. Probably should have had a shot myself! That's the only thing that kept me sane until I could see the dentist. It was awful. But now that the teeth are all gone, the mouth feels so much better, but not as pretty! It will be again...but not the same as my own were. Ali, your soaps sound wonderful! I'm allergic to regular soap so only use liquid washes that are soap ingredient free. Like the rest of us, my skin is not like it once was and is very dry too. It splits open easily and bruises easily too. What can I do about that? Any ideas? Bananny, that's awful that the state of CA would cancel your insurance like that! Sure, they have their budget problems, but don't they realize that they are causing great harm to their residents too? Cutting the income from those who already can least afford to have that happen, is insane. Whatever are they thinking??? I'm certain that Arnie and Maria aren't suffering any from this budget crisis! They're still eating their elegant meals and drinking their favorite wines that we can only dream about! IF we could even eat it!!! No more steak for me...not teeth, no chew! Know that I'm thinking and praying for you Nanners...you are a great comfort to us all. Love, ctbarb
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Post by 2.99(plus~tax) on Jul 14, 2009 22:55:08 GMT -5
Sorry about your teeth Bananny...same thing happened to me. Gee, wish I knew Ali back then, could have saved me some serious pain! I had abcesses on most of the roots that finally ruptured and when they did, it loosened the roots and within a couple of months, the teeth fell out by the roots! I used everything possible under the sun for relief, but Sambuca (Anise liqueur) did the trick! I just swished some of that around in my mouth for as long as I could stand it, then brushed with baking soda, and swished with the 'Buca again and spit it out. Probably should have had a shot myself! That's the only thing that kept me sane until I could see the dentist. It was awful. But now that the teeth are all gone, the mouth feels so much better, but not as pretty! It will be again...but not the same as my own were. Ali, your soaps sound wonderful! I'm allergic to regular soap so only use liquid washes that are soap ingredient free. Like the rest of us, my skin is not like it once was and is very dry too. It splits open easily and bruises easily too. What can I do about that? Any ideas? Bananny, that's awful that the state of CA would cancel your insurance like that! Sure, they have their budget problems, but don't they realize that they are causing great harm to their residents too? Cutting the income from those who already can least afford to have that happen, is insane. Whatever are they thinking??? I'm certain that Arnie and Maria aren't suffering any from this budget crisis! They're still eating their elegant meals and drinking their favorite wines that we can only dream about! IF we could even eat it!!! No more steak for me...not teeth, no chew! Know that I'm thinking and praying for you Nanners...you are a great comfort to us all. Love, ctbarb send me your address in a pm. I'll send you some. Are you allergic to olive oil, coconut oil or palm oil? That's what my bars are made of. the ingredient list looks like this: Saponified oils of olive, coconut and palm and essential oils or clay. I do use fragrances in some of them....like my vanila mocha bar....which smells exactly like well....my favorite coffee. I couldn't get that with just cocoa powder and vanilla bean, although that's in there too. just pm me, tell me what your skin is like, maybe I might have something down at my store I could send you. (yes, no charge...my treat!) I have one that acts more like a lotion than a soap. smells good too. It has oatmeal milk and honey and aloe vera in it. Do you think that might be helpful? Ali
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Post by ruth on Jul 15, 2009 11:20:32 GMT -5
my teeth are cracking and my gums are messed up.
the pain of those tracks setting up through my teeth was unreal.
i swished and spit with whiskey, but will try the sambuca
for the next tooth expisode.
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Post by toni on Jul 15, 2009 12:56:35 GMT -5
It's all a crime imho how America (government) goes out of it's way with ALL our MONEY to support other countries BEFORE taking care of it's own people. I know there's alot more to it, than this simple statement, but it's what it boils down to no matter how it's sliced.
I wish I knew what to say Bannanny, because teeth are like bones, we need them.
I know (and I learned this from a veterinarian when I had my dog of 18 years) that the MOST harmful bacteria 'in the teeth/mouth' is what causes serious heart and organ problems throughout the body of animals as equally as humans.
Keeping germs and cavities under serious control is key. That bacteria that forms cavities is what gets in the blood stream.
There's some good advice here, and I hope you can get this resolved.
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Post by bannanny on Jul 15, 2009 17:30:50 GMT -5
You sent me a bentonite bar... that's clay right? You sent me soooo many beautiful soap bars! I'd love to be your guinnea pig for the shampoo and body wash! That's something I'd reeeallly love to try, since my head has always been my hot-spot.
The biggest essential oil I'm into these days is Hyssop. It doesn't taste all that great, but I feel God in it so it makes me feel good! It was the oil used in biblical times for skin conditions and leprosy. I take that along with the protocol Grady suggested and I haven't had any goo in my hands since June 25th!
The peppermint felt great on my teeth too Ali... you're right, it leaves you with a very clean feeling!
Her soaps are amazing you guys, really they are. I'm not trying to sell them for her, I just love you and want you to feel how great they make you feel too... and of course I love Ali and I know she's trying to help us in any way she can.
Is that you abbienormal? I hope so, but if not it's good to meet you abbby! Thanks for the suggestion too. The only problem I have with that is I have morgs so bad in my mouth that I wouldn't wanna scare anyone new to the dental profession. Plus I have no idea what's gonna happen when they start probing around in my mouth... it's pretty bad in there.
I remember 2 years ago when I was at the dentist, she was goin nutz trying to get a fiber out of my tooth. It was embedded right into it... you could see it very clearly, it looked like a silver color. She never could get it out and I didn't say much to her at the time, so it bothers me what might happen now ya know? I'm almost afraid to go, which is why I waited so long to go back in the first place.
Sorry about your teeth too ctbarb and ruth. This thing sure likes to mess with them too doesn't it?
It's pretty disgusting what's happening here in California. I don't know why they're hittting the people and departments (like schools) who are the last ones they should even think about hitting. None of it makes any sense to me at all. Had the Federal government not stepped in to pay what people on SSI get from the state, I'd have been getting about 250.00 less each month instead of just the 70.00 decrease I got. So I have to give that one to the feds... not much else tho.
I'm sure I have alot of bacteria in my blood stream by now from my teeth toni... but all I can do is what I can do right now ya know? I'm pretty tough tho... and I have you guys helping me too!
hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by toni on Jul 16, 2009 7:27:11 GMT -5
Maybe this can help? (IMPORTANT HERBS FOR DENTAL HEALTH) [glow=red,2,300]Anti-bacterial, anti-inflammatory herbal resins for healthy teeth and gums.[/glow] Myrrh - a resin from North Africa to Arabia, warming, astringent Propolis - a bee product - stimulates production of new tissue, anti-viral, useful for mouth sores and ulcers [glow=red,2,300]Other Anti-microbial herbs for healthy teeth and gums[/glow] Usnea - a common lichen, stronger than penicillin against strep and staph. Bloodroot - an eastern woodlands plant - strongly inhibits plaque and decay-causing bacteria Plantain - a common world-wide “weed,” use it fresh for abscesses, inflammation. [glow=red,2,300]Herbal Astringents (anti-microbial, tightens tissues) for healthy teeth and gums[/glow] New research shows that tannin-rich plants can be anti-viral Krameria - contains 40% tannin, combine the powder with myrrh as a dentifrice for bleeding or spongy gums. Oak galls (oak apples) - contain up to 50% tannins, use powder as a dentifrice. Tormentil & Sage = use as a gargle for chronic gum inflammation. [glow=red,2,300]Immune herbal strengtheners for healthy teeth and gums[/glow] Echinacea - gargle or rinse with the diluted tincture, activates local immunity, induces healing. Baptisia - antiseptic, anti-bacterial Many essential-oil bearing plants are useful for stimulating the blood-flow to gums; they are also anti-bacterial. Examples: peppermint, spearmint, fennel, cinnamon, sage, thyme worldental.org/oral-hygiene/importance-of-herbs-for-dental-health/
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Post by toni on Jul 16, 2009 7:38:22 GMT -5
And the last step is to make a gargle from the herbs echinacea, usnea, goldenseal and myrrh. These can be purchased from the health food stores as a tincture ( alcoholic extract ) and then a dropper full put into a half cup of warm water. Gargle and let the wash stay in your mouth for a few minutes if you have a severe conditions. www.evergreenherbgarden.org/articles/teeth.html
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Post by cyn on Jul 18, 2009 1:04:31 GMT -5
Hi Bannanny,
Having spent 3 1/2 hours in the dental chair today should qualify my posting here. I have a pretty good idea what you are going through.
I have no ideas for that kind of pain beyond Anbesol. I soak small cotton balls of the stuff and just leave it on the area.
Sounds as if you have a bunch of advice from others though.
I do hope you can find something cheap that works well.
All I said to this new dentist when he mentioned the great amount of work needed, was that a good percentage of persons with my disease end up loosing all their teeth. That way hopefully the dentist and assistants will be somewhat prepared for finding unusual things in the mouth. Then further on he said, I know you think you might lose all your teeth, but your bones are in good shape and that is what holds the teeth in, more so than the tooth. But what he doesn't know is that Morg's, IMO works in the gums, destroying the tooth at that level. At least that is where I have seen the micro tubes attached.
And I noticed just this morning the Morgs has set up a new line coming from the throat going straight to the area of my last extraction. That always precedes a flooding of the area of more fluids, in this case - gel.
I could not believe the cost of three crowns and two posts. The root canals had already been done years ago, I just keep losing more crowns, like when I sleep or brush my teeth. Not having Insurance either, but knowing most of the work was already done I just didn't think it would be that costly. First he gave me twenty percent off, when I started saying that maybe I didn't need the top one done, just the two on the bottom, and that we could use the old crown on one of those, ... he said he would take off 30%. He said that will make a total of 2800.00 and you will not get a deal like that anywhere!!!
He was being so nice I had to do as he suggested, but I am still suffering from sticker shock.
He wanted me to have a partial also, but I said firmly no, not with a constantly changing gum line. I can still see the area morgs filled with gel after the extraction, it is not quite the same color. I'm sure were I to have another tooth pulled, that tubes would come directly out of that area.
Oh yeah, I wanted to ask you, I don't know how badly your head is flooded with the fluids of morgs, but mine is pretty full. Making balance a problem, along with dizziness and so forth. Do the injections of anesthetic bother you more than it should? My reaction is intense, I'm sitting in a chair but feel as if I might fall to the floor. I don't think the gel likes that stuff!!!
Can you use a substance under the partial like they do with full dentures? Would that help an ill fitting partial? I don't know, but like I said last time we spoke, I don't see how dentures of any kind can work on a Morgie. IMO the only answer is implants, but who can afford that.
Anyway lady, I am hoping the pain dulls soon, we really need a dentist working on this problem specific to Morgies.
Love & good thoughts, cyn
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Post by bannanny on Jul 18, 2009 3:04:06 GMT -5
Wow... such great info toni! Thank you so much for looking into all of that for me... I sure do appreciate you! I know they'll help me a great deal too... you're the best!
Hey cyn... how goes it? Other than the teeth thing anyway. Glad you got yours taken care of tho. I'd actually like to have all of mine pulled and just forget about it. Morgs love to have conventions in my mouth it seems... altho right now the suckers are partyin down everywhere again.
I don't know how the anesthesia would effect me now... I feel dizzy alot of the time anyway lately so it couldn't be that bad. I'd prefer being totally knocked out tho... I don't wanna see what I think is gonna happen once I do get in to see the dentist. It scares me tho.
They already tried to fit my partial better 2 different times. But they said they couldn't do anymore with it... which of course made me ask why they never seemed to allow for the swelling to go down when they first fit me with it. It's hard to find good work out there anymore.
Thanks for your kind words cyn... and it's good to hear from you too. Don't stay away so long this time girl!
love you too ~~ bannanny
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Post by Acacian Immolation on Jul 18, 2009 6:47:05 GMT -5
part of the transformation consists of new deciduous teeth.. ie: loosing current ones to make way for future ones.... as well as fingernails. I use Toms of maine.. FYI.. but I really don't care .. since I know they'll fall out soon enough... just like everybody elses. I had a dream the other night that some fell out actually. read: Pearl Gates...
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Post by friskers on Jul 18, 2009 11:48:59 GMT -5
Hey Bannans I have a customer i will see on Tues who sees a dentsit in Mexico for a fraction of the cost. He has had several of his friends use them too and and they are all please with the work done. Let me know if you want me to get their name. I do think you need a passport to go to mexico now . also it may be too late but for anyone else with tooth decay i just read vit D defeciency can be one cause and apparently alot of people now are having this because of avoiding the sun. Sorry about your trouble and cut income,that does suck!!
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Post by bannanny on Jul 18, 2009 17:24:56 GMT -5
Well that solves my whole problem Acacian... I'll just kick back and wait for them to fall out! Course, I love to eat so I can't see myself goin that long to wait for some new and improved brand of teeth to come in. Thanks tho...
I don't have a passport now friskers... I imagine just the cost for one these days is more than I'd be willing to pay too. But I appreciate you telling me about it anyway!
hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by Acacian Immolation on Jul 18, 2009 17:55:01 GMT -5
Well that solves my whole problem Acacian... I'll just kick back and wait for them to fall out! Course, I love to eat so I can't see myself goin that long to wait for some new and improved brand of teeth to come in. Thanks tho... hehehh well ya try.. but honestly.. i really don't see any practical way people can PREVENT their teeth from disintegrating from this transformation... /shrug// sorry couldn't have been of any help here.. hey there's always a juice diet... -
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Post by bannanny on Jul 19, 2009 2:26:28 GMT -5
That's what I need to do right now... go get myself all juiced up so I can pass out and not have to deal with this mess for awhile.
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Post by glennb on Jul 19, 2009 20:21:11 GMT -5
Powdered cloves is also good for killing pain as well as clove oil.
I have lost 5 teeth in the last few years. Another one will be gone soon as a huge piece already cracked off. I looked at the piece with a magnifying glass and discovered a morg pathogen had worked its way up into a crack in the tooth (maybe it caused the crack in the first place). The thing was firmly attached to the piece that fell out.
I have a friend who had extensive dental work done in Mexico for about 10% of what it costs in the U.S The Mexican dentist did a great job on my friends teeth.
Swishing the mouth out occasionally through out the day with baking soda water would help maintain a less acid oral environment. Also use a tongue cleaner.
I wonder if a mouthwash containg peroxide and colloidial silver would be beneficial?
Also if you can get a hold of a frequency machine there are frequencies for controlling dental cavities (and also for controlling Morgellons)
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