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Survey regarding Zappers « Thread Started on Jun 8, 2006, 8:45am »
I bought a zapper 2 weeks ago and use it every day i have heard lots of people with positive results please share your experiences.
1. What kind of zapper do you have ?
2. How often and how long do you zap ?
3. Can you please describe what it has done to you? after how long time did you feel an improvement and so on
ill go first
1. What kind of zapper do you have ?
I got so overwelmed with someone on the boards improvement so i went and bought the same zapper from http://zap.intergate.ca/
2. How often and how long do you zap ?
i am zapping around 15 min a time with 15 min breaks inbetween sometimes longer sometimes shorter. i zap severall times a day
3. Can you please describe what it has done to you? after how long time did you feel an improvement and so on
I cant really say i see an improvement yet but i am doing masses of garlic at the moment so my symptons have gone down when i have been zapping after eating loads of garlic i feel a difference in zapping its like the garlic irritates them and the zapper does the same
You should see a big difference if you zap tonight, as the moon is full, and the parasites are active and easier to kill. Hanna Kroeger recommended going after parasites 5 days before the full moon until at least 5 days after, as that's when parasites come out of hiding in the body to reproduce.I had great results in 2004, with a square wave zapper from www.healthysigns.com, with carbon wristbands and the automatic timer. You can read details in my post under thread on "black spot flukes". I'd recommend zapping the 22 on, 7 off, in sets of 3. Do this day and night (especially 11 or 12 at night).Then zap for an hour or more at a time for wound healing. I"ve zapped all night for wound healing. I was vey skeptical about this zapping business at first. A quack had sold me a ba zapper locally, before I heard about Healthy Signs.Anyway, I have a buddy who is a very sharp Engineer. He helped me research these things, and told me they work on the same principle of something he did growing up on Long Island as a child. He said to catch fish worms to go fishing, they'd drive a couple of tire irons in the ground and attach to cables from car battery. The electrical current drove the worms out. I hope this is helpful. Flowerchild
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Re: Zapper « Reply #2 on Jun 12, 2006, 4:49am »
Scandi - Hi I have a super deluxe zapper 2004. I believe I got it from huldaclark.com I am ordering a full spectrum frequency generator with zapping plates and a biofeedback testing device. So that I may hopefully identify and and all specific organisms and turnaround and zap it at concentrated levels for just that organism. That's the idea anyway.
Continuing with your questionaire...
2. I zap three sets of 7 min intervals with 20 minutes in between. I hadn't really done more than one set of three more than once a day until recently I reread Dr. Clark and saw that I could.
3. Well like you, I couldn't tell as I began taking meds AND new vitamins in the same week my zapper arrived. Thus I didn't know what to attribute my slow climb of feeling better. Soon I reached a plateau of climbing. I am far from being my healthy self, yet I've never been that bad again either (before the antibiotics, zapper, vit c, b's, inositol, calcium mag, glyconutrients, samento, gogi acaic mangosteen noni pom juice).
I'll tell you what though... I've had some time between antibiotics, time trying new supplements and ceasing others, and time to trial and error... And there is something to the zapping. I'd almost bet on it, tho it could be due to some kind of placebo effect. Eventhough if you ask me... I think I have a placebo in reverse effect when it comes to most things. Meaning, I can be such a skeptic at times that many things that can and do help... end up not working or helping due to my frustrating skepticism.
These are the three situations I've noticed the zapper at work.
Healing the liesons on my face. Faster. This part is more remarkable... I had some sores appear, I then made them worse by trying to make them better (you all know how it is, in that hypnotized like moments before you've learned never to touch them because you're still under the impression or experience of treating it like a pimple back in in highschool when you'd pop it and it would be gone 1 or 2 days later). Anyway, the messing with them made it worse. I woke up to redness, soreness, crustiness, and a burning sensation even. I tried neosporin, benzocaine, fungal stuf, ozonated olive oil, lidocaine, calendula, zinc, etc. None of it helping too much or for more than 20 minutes. And that was just the pain... cuz forget about how it looked. I try the zapper. I put the foam wristbands on either side of my face so the current would run between. While I'm zappiing I can feel tons of sensations in the leisons and no where else that also fell inbetween the bands. Each time I'd zap almost immediately the sores would sting sharply. And only the sores in between. Okay here's the cool part... By the end of the second 7 minute round the pain and burning was so faint. And after the third it was gone. I did another set of three later, went to bed, woke up next day and they were so dry, no pain still and it seem like any scabs came off later that day or the next.
The second instance I've noticed a difference in is when I am congested (sinus) and brain fog. I seems to help and sometimes even clear both for quite a while.
Third notice is whatever is swimming around in my tummy and smaller versions in my veins I think??? ...is more active after zapping. It stirs em up for sure. Perhaps it is killing some too... I can't tell. Maybe I need to do many more sessions back to back. I'm not saying the zapper has a good or bad effect on these flukes or whatever they are... I'm just saying it has an effect on them nonetheless.
My biggest problem is that I'm not consistent with it and I'll go weeks without using it. I'll literally forget.
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Re: Zapper « Reply #4 on Jun 12, 2006, 9:52am »
scandi, I am the one that recommended Ken Presner's zapper. I zap just about every evening in bed at bedtime for 30 - 60 minutes.
I wrap the handles with paper towels and lay in bed relaxing. I hold the handles and put my hands at my hips and zap for a while. Then I put my hands up at my shoulders and zap for a while. Then I put my hands above each ear and zap. I can literally feel them move out of my scalp and down my back. When that happens, the next day I will feel areas on my skin where "they" have burrowed in. I put oil on them, and rub to get them out.
I believe it is important to take breaks from zapping. This allows them to leave their unsuitable host. The first time I took a break was because I was about to be tested for parasites and wanted the best test results. Over the next week or so I got many things off my skin. It was like they were making an exodus from my body before I started zapping again.
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Re: Survey regarding Zappers « Reply #7 on Jun 13, 2006, 11:56am »
Belikewater - Absolutely I will!
Becky - Another way to make more conductive is dissolving salt in the water you use to dampen the wrist bands. Sounds like you have the metal grips/handles. I would think the same applies. Gosh though... I would caution you about using while in the bathtub.
Also, if the frequency generator can hone in on and pinpoint a certain frequency being resonated for say... staph. Doesn't it seem logical that we could take a sample of our blood or skin and it will pick up a frequency of this organism? Even if it's a novel pathogen without a predetermined or established frequency? Surely it must resonate at some level. Knowing Morgellons tends to be illusive... it's probably a frequency off the charts and out of the locator's detection range, or it has the capability to switch it's own frequency or something. Anyway, I ordered the lab manual as well in hopes to cover all bases and understand more thoroughly. I've heard that the f-scan machine may be helpful to us, but haven't had a chance to google info yet.
Thinking about how you said your hair being wet or damp made a difference.... what about if you zapped directly after getting out of the steam room or a hot shower? Like towel off a bit but zap while your entire body is still a bit moist?
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Re: Survey regarding Zappers « Reply #8 on Jun 13, 2006, 12:16pm »
DOCP, Yeah, electrocution would solve the problem However, zapper is battery run? If not, then no tubbing and zapping. I like the idea of an eco-vie spritz then zap while wet. Just a thought.
And, I think you are on the right track with the frequencies. I really want to discuss this with you. I have a little electricity/electronics knowledge. Since the zappers I have seen are set at one frequency, there must be fractional frequencies that also get zapped.
Could you please post the info.,website or address, to obtain frequency generator/manual? Thanks.
My understanding is that zappers kill the beasties as well as drive them out. Any idea of how to drain the toxins from a die-off? Thanks again.
Re: Survey regarding Zappers « Reply #10 on Jun 13, 2006, 3:42pm »
We use the Hulda Clark Zapper approx. 12 minutes on 20 minutes off and find best results when attaching right unit to right wrist and left to left ankle. I've found that it's necessary to take several days off to let the stealth come back out and feel "safe" so you can get them on the next round. Three times a day minimum works best for me if I can remember to get them done. My husband "overdosed" the first night and did 20 minute on runs and vomited black sludge for the next 24 hours that eventually turned to the grass like looking worms. Vomiting and passing in his stools. He has an electronics degree and actually IS looking into the possibility of zapping in saltwater. He doesn't believe the current is strong enough to cause harm to anything but the parasites. CAUTION: Do not attempt this, he is researching this and will be the initial guinea pig and will post results.
I have found lessening of lesions, faster healing, less fatigue, MUCH improvement in gut infestation. I recommend a well-made zapper from a reliable source to everyone. Not as a treatment alone but as an adjunct to treatment.
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Re: Survey regarding Zappers « Reply #11 on Jun 13, 2006, 4:28pm »
Seriously, please no one consider using this while in water if your unit is a plug in the wall type. I have heard that using a copper foot plates intensifies the treatment, also putting feet in a water bath. (not for the plug in, don't do it). Your plug in models should have battery options. Be aware of brain fog so bad if you are used to using batteries in your unit for the tub, etc and use it to plug in direct when not in tub, to not forget. It is possible to forget with severe brain fog.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ Zapper survey 1. What kind of zapper do you have ? I have a miniFG frequency generator though not the new model that has a zapper function built in with square wave.
2. How often and how long do you zap ? 7-10 minutes on-20minutes off, 7-on-20-7-on,-----The cycle is build in so you cannot change the length of time of the zap, only on the first cycle. You can program in the frequency but only up to 999,999 Hz. For example from Clark book, resident frequency for one form of fluke is 421.35 KHz=421,350 Hz
3. Can you please describe what it has done to you? after how long time did you feel an improvement. In the beginning when I first got these crawlies, it seemed to stir them up and it did not know how to kill them once they started milling around. So I stopped.I restarted just recently and have done it for two days at night now. I can feel some squirming in my lip. I don't think I stayed with it long enough in the beginning when I first got this. I don't know whether creature in the lip will emerge. I plan to put one of the probe on my lip tonight to see if I can drive it out of the lip. Since I can't see them, it is hard to kill them once they are out. I plan to get copper foot plates to intensify my treatments.
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Re: Survey regarding Zappers « Reply #12 on Jun 14, 2006, 3:01pm »
What I left out of my post above, is the immediate improvement in my eyes. Before zapping in bed at bedtime, when I went to bed at least 50 things would pop out of my eyelashes. Now I get an occasional one. Now I have occasional crawling in my hair, and very occasional anywhere else.
Also, I collect the things I get off of my skin and look at them under the microscope. I swear the longer I zapped, the more cracked up (like glass) and even burned these things (larvae?) look.
Re: Survey regarding Zappers « Reply #13 on Jun 18, 2006, 9:42pm »
Any form of electromagnetic therapies which uses some of the freqs that Clark mentions will have a positive effect. I have a zapper and use it, the one with the handles. I would recommend that you dont use it every day but say 3 on 1 off to allow the body to deal with toxins. accudoc
Re: Survey regarding Zappers « Reply #14 on Jun 19, 2006, 12:05am »
accudoc, I used it three days in a row and crawling was so intense, I did not think I was going to deal. I can't tell yet if they are better than before I started. It is easing with the use of La bella styling gel on my head. Seems to quell the fury in other areas at the same time. I have the invisible crawlies, itching/bite mostly on chest. After the zap they intensified going like in nose, ears and eyes. Had to go back to borax and epson salt baths. Lots of crawls on feet now. Maybe i used too high a frequency. When I get courage back will try every three days.
Re: Survey regarding Zappers « Reply #16 on Jun 19, 2006, 8:33pm »
Hi 22122, It sounds as if you excited either and insect or a parasite and they are trying to get away from the energy or you killed them and they creating an inflammatory reaction. How long did you zap and at what frequency. I would probably take some form of internal parasitide at the same time. Also a ? do develop static electricity easily. Is everything causes sparks when you touch them if so then your MSH is very low and the added electricity maybe causing a reaction. PM me and maybe I can help make a few suggestions. Try some antiinflammatories, aloe, green drinks, tumeric, Quercitin, neddles. It maybe a high histamine reaction especially when you use the stuff on your head and everything cooled down. Clear your liver maybe a coffee enema. Look healthfreedomsolutions for info on that if you need to. If the gallbladder is blocked it will show up as skin reactions itching etc. Also potassium and af betafood from standard process may help. Regards Accudoc
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Re: Survey regarding Zappers « Reply #17 on Jun 19, 2006, 11:39pm »
Hi accudoc................
What is MSH? Hardly any brain function left here, but I have sparks come from my fingers when I'm typing on my keyboard......watching them spark right now. But I haven't gotten a zapper yet.....I'm looking for one to find that might be best for me. From things I've read about them, I want one, but I'm also scared to death about the reaction I'll get. I'm one of us folks that not much has worked on and it's everywhere here! It's gotten to the point where I can hardly stand to clean becuz it makes it so much worse. The stuff's in my cleaning supplies anyway!!! Got an ozone machine, but I think it's gonna take awhile to see real effects becuz of the huge amount of contamination here....we'll see!
Started at about 9 times a day. Each session had a zapping time of about 7 minutes, with 20 minutes off, 7 on, 20 off, 7 on, 20 off. Did this 3 times a day for a few days. Then I got braver and lengthened the sessions up to 15 minutes and took more time off between.
3. Can you please describe what it has done to you? after how long time did you feel an improvement and so on
At first, I just held the copper handles with damp paper towels by my sides, while I relaxed in a recliner. Now, I just go ahead and move the handles around, focusing a lot on my scalp since that is where I have had the most issues. I also did my face since I used to have nose and ear issues.
Surprisingly, I think I got one of those "hooked tail" parasites out of my nose - so it wasn't all cleared up like I had believed. Also, when I first started it on my face, it caused a twitching reaction above my left eye. I moved the handle away from the twitch to make it stop. The next day, when doing my face (holding handles vertically in front of my ears) I felt something release from inside my upper left eyelid and felt a clear thick gel come out from under the lid and coat my eye. I hope it got out eventually, but I didn't let go of the handle.
Also, inside my nasal passages, after about a week of zapping, I felt a "clearing" inside - almost like when you turn on the defroster inside your cold car and watch the windows unfog.
The scalp is where I've had the most trouble. Even with the anti-candida diet, there are moments when I feel my scalp bother me at particular "hot spots" - zapping caused those hot spots to flare up a bit, but on the other hand, the entire scalp has a different feel to it - less "polluted" and cleaner and drier. I visualize that gel stuff as drying up. It's going to take more weeks of this to tell if this has any effect on those "gel hairs" - which I believe have a parasite in the root.
Well, that's my very Subjective take on zapping.
I'm very excited about it and am doing more reading on this stuff and am interested in trying other equipment out too - the list of frequencies intrigues me - but on the other hand, the simplicity of this unit makes it very user-friendly for a non-techie.
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