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« Thread Started on Jul 16, 2006, 9:56am »

I am a member of another Morgellons group message board,today it is full of members trying fenbendazole,and they swear it is killing this stuff!..i did read where it is vetinary anti-parasitic medication,but the pharmaceutical company lists it for human use also..I'm not particularly squemish about taking animal meds.I took vetinary doxycycline!(to no effect) i just found this posting,so I dont know how to go about getting some...go to the vet? Has anyone here heard of this?
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« Reply #1 on Jul 16, 2006, 10:11am »

The febendazole as i recall is really close in structure to the thiabendazole, or brand name MINTEZOL I posted about.

I haven't found Mintezol available on the internet. As far as I can tell it is prescription only, but not expensive.

It's rough on your system and I would bet febendazole would be too, so I'd be reallly cautious.

It helped kill something internally, I have not yet been able to go the distance ( a full 7 days). 4.5 days this last time.

Headaches, vomiting, be sure you don't get toxic. The day I vomited i quit. I should have decided the day before to listen to my body. I just couldn't even swallow the chewed up tablet, eventually forced it down with gingerale, only to throw up later. I think I was getting toxic.

I've used thiabendazole cream on my skin. Doctor must prescribe and compounding pharmacy must make.

There is more to the equation though.

As far as taking vet meds orally please remember, it is not just weight! Some of those anti parasitics will kill a dog, even if you scale down the dose required for a horse. This happens because the delivery mechanism built into the drug and the patient's metabolism determine how much and how fast it gets into your system.

So there is spec's words of caution.

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« Reply #2 on Jul 16, 2006, 10:54am »

http://www.elephantcare.org/Drugs/fenbenda.htm
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=0&articleid=1415
http://cal.vet.upenn.edu/dxendopar/drug%20pages/fenbendazole.htm
http://www.chameleonnews.com/year2002/july2002/nematodes/nematodes.html
http://www.inchem.org/documents/jecfa/jecmono/v29je04.htm
This is for animals. I am not advocating this but here are some write ups
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« Reply #3 on Jul 16, 2006, 1:27pm »

Sorry I posted my request for people having-been treated with an "Imidazole"-based drug just prior to seeing-this...

Great minds think alike!
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« Reply #4 on Jul 16, 2006, 1:43pm »

Oral Thiabendazole thread:

http://lymebusters.proboards39.com/index....read=1144849944


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« Reply #5 on Jul 16, 2006, 2:28pm »

Also, I see in the drug-literature that "toxicity levels" could'nt even be FOUND (with max overdosing) for dogs and other species.

So-apparently, people could take the "Fenbenzadole" variety of this drug without the toxicity experienced with the Mintezol/Thibenzadol.........?
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« Reply #6 on Jul 17, 2006, 10:21am »

Riverrat What where the doses used?

Over here aparently you can buy it without prescription it is used for fishes cats dogs and horses.

i have many times fished and catched fishes with black specks on them hmmm :P

please reply fast gonna get me some
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« Reply #7 on Jul 17, 2006, 2:23pm »

I'm on my 3rd week now of taking 100 mgs twice a day - of Mebendazole (same as Febendazole, I think) that Ginger Savely prescribed me.

I don't have the crawlies or itchies anymore, but my face still tingles with slight itchies. And I'm still removing "larvae" looking things from my face. But as far as my body, everything has stopped.

So I don't know for sure if it's the meds I'm on, because last time I went to Loma Linda approx 2 months ago, and took meds for only 2 weeks, everything stopped while I was on the meds, but a few days after the medications duration was over, it all came back.

So, I'm just waiting to see - and my blood tests results will be ready for me in another week.
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« Reply #8 on Jul 17, 2006, 9:36pm »

I believe that "Mebendazole" and "Fenbendazole" are distinctly-different compounds, but I'm no Pharmacist....A quick-look on the 'net should tell.

This Bendazole family has Lord-knows how-many variants...

I know-of about 10 from memory, then-someone tells of being treated with yet another!

The slightest-difference in formulation and you get completely-different results with different pathogens...AND side-effects.

Really-pays to-do your homework here!
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« Reply #9 on Jul 17, 2006, 10:49pm »

You're so right!

They are different.

Here's a little article about the two used in a test.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query....7&dopt=Abstract
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« Reply #10 on Jul 18, 2006, 12:41am »

I liked it...in my opinion one of the best antihelminth's around. Well that we can get our hands on anyway. Oxibendazole affected the skin issues more than fendbendazole for me.
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« Reply #11 on Jul 18, 2006, 11:38am »

The thing that is different about Mintezol (oral thiabendazole) is that it does not remain in the gut (intestine) it disseminates out to other tissues, where as mebendazole concentrates of killing in the gut.

I knew it was doing something powerful because it caused noises to return inside my stomach grinding constantly for two days.

It will atleast have caused some freeing up of the organs that create the gastric juices.. the gall bladder, I understand.

Also I had a weird gut swelling above my waistline that I felt was abnormail and this did shrink during the usage, to the point that if I would exercise now, my stomach would be flat again. That bulge thing was not part of laziness it was weird.

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PS it would be interesting to find out if albendazole or febendazole dissemiinate to the tissues.
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« Reply #12 on Jul 18, 2006, 11:58am »

Riverat

What other forum are you talking about ? would be nice to read something about these peolpe that swear they are killing it with this med.

I have purchased fenbendazole and have started on a 2500mg dose today. I know its stupid to do meds like this without any guidlines to go after but hey getting kinda desperate here no help at all from the doctors so what the heck. No bad side effects so far. they told me in the store 250mg for every 5kg body mass on dogs.

please give us some more info on the fenbendazole people and the amount they have been taken and for how long they done it etc

or just link the forum if u can

Scandi

on a sidenote anyone that have had good experience with prazquantiel SP ? i saw that it was possible to buy without prescription.
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« Reply #13 on Jul 19, 2006, 9:11am »

I hope its ok to Bump this ;)
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« Reply #14 on Jul 19, 2006, 1:00pm »

They say

"Itching? "GONESVILLE" !!! Picking feelings? ALSO "GONESVILLE" folks!!! Crawlies?...YES, that's also gone to "GONESVILLE" TOO."

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/finding1cure/message/3137
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« Reply #15 on Jul 19, 2006, 1:24pm »

thanks optimistic :)

i really hope it takes care of all not just the itchies

like the double hairs neuroproblems other peoples reactions to us etc

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« Reply #16 on Jul 19, 2006, 1:26pm »

Thanks for posting that. I just checked that out too.

That great if it works, heck, it's better than great, it's a miracle if that's all this takes!!!

What absolutely kills me...are all these sites, there's soooooo many of us infected, so many. I want to scream, see now I'm going off on a tangent. Oh...I have an idea. I'm going to post a thread, "idea" just hit me!

Thanks again!
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« Reply #17 on Jul 19, 2006, 1:39pm »

hope this it i did i very small dose against my weight gonna go and buy somemore tomorrow :)

havent had the crawlies for some time.. only the weird feelings in the skin like goosebumps travelling nad the feeling of something on the chin nose eyes like other peoples reactions to us.


gonna get myself a full dose tomorrow..

Scandi with crossed fingers
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« Reply #18 on Jul 19, 2006, 1:42pm »

Wow, we're hot !!!!!

Possible Cure? Simple Dog Wormer, this seems to really be surfacing ... (bad pun)
http://lymebusters.proboards39.com/index....read=1153333337
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« Reply #19 on Jul 19, 2006, 1:47pm »

i just hope it not just the worms part that gets fixed we all probably attract parasites and worms maybe is just one of them maybe the one causing th e itching but hell yeah it will be nice to be itch free however :P

hopefull but not convinced scandi ;)
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