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« Reply #20 on Feb 7, 2007, 3:28pm »

[ur]=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudomonas_aeruginosa]Pseudomonas aeruginosa[/url]

Pseudomonas aeruginosa (also known as Pseudomonas pyocyanea) is a Gram-negative, aerobic, rod-shaped bacterium with unipolar motility.[1] A

Definitive clinical identification of P. aeruginosa often includes identifying the production of both pyocyanin and fluorescein as well as its ability to grow at 42°C. P. aeruginosa is capable of growth in diesel and jet fuel, (chemtrails anyone?) where it is known as a hydrocarbon utilizing microorganism (or "HUM bug"), causing microbial corrosion. It creates dark gellish mats sometimes improperly called "algae".

( I have tons of this "dark gellish" matting forming on my shower curtain and it flakes off when i'm showering. I'll see about having it tested somewhere )

P. aeruginosa is naturally resistant to a large range of antibiotics. It should usually be possible to guide treatment according to laboratory sensitivities, rather than choosing an antibiotic empirically. If antibiotics are started empirically, then every effort should be made to obtain cultures and the choice of antibiotic used should be reviewed when the culture results are available.

Antibiotics that have activity against P. aeruginosa include:

* aminoglycosides (gentamicin, amikacin, tobramycin);
* quinolones (ciprofloxacin and levofloxacin but not moxifloxacin)
* cephalosporins (ceftazidime, cefepime, cefpirome, but not cefuroxime, ceftriaxone, cefotaxime)
* ureidopenicillins (piperacillin, ticarcillin: P. aeruginosa is intrinsically resistant to all other penicillins)
* carbapenems (meropenem, imipenem, but not ertapenem)
* polymyxins (polymyxin B and colistin)
* monobactams (aztreonam)

These antibiotics must all be given by injection, with the exception of fluoroquinolones. For this reason, in some hospitals, fluoroquinolone use is severely restricted in order to avoid the development of resistant strains of P. aeruginosa.




just wanted to post this as it was one of the microbes he had found...
not to get off the agro subject.

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« Reply #21 on Feb 7, 2007, 3:32pm »

ok i am sick of this error message i get when i try to modify a message to correct an error.. it says

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anyway .. corrected post..

"Pseudomonas aeruginosa

Pseudomonas aeruginosa (also known as Pseudomonas pyocyanea) is a Gram-negative, aerobic, rod-shaped bacterium with unipolar motility.[1] A

Definitive clinical identification of P. aeruginosa often includes identifying the production of both pyocyanin and fluorescein as well as its ability to grow at 42°C. P. aeruginosa is capable of growth in diesel and jet fuel, (chemtrails anyone?) where it is known as a hydrocarbon utilizing microorganism (or "HUM bug"), causing microbial corrosion. It creates dark gellish mats sometimes improperly called "algae".

( I have tons of this "dark gellish" matting forming on my shower curtain and it flakes off when i'm showering. I'll see about having it tested somewhere )

P. aeruginosa is naturally resistant to a large range of antibiotics. It should usually be possible to guide treatment according to laboratory sensitivities, rather than choosing an antibiotic empirically. If antibiotics are started empirically, then every effort should be made to obtain cultures and the choice of antibiotic used should be reviewed when the culture results are available.

Antibiotics that have activity against P. aeruginosa include:

* aminoglycosides (gentamicin, amikacin, tobramycin);
* quinolones (ciprofloxacin and levofloxacin but not moxifloxacin)
* cephalosporins (ceftazidime, cefepime, cefpirome, but not cefuroxime, ceftriaxone, cefotaxime)
* ureidopenicillins (piperacillin, ticarcillin: P. aeruginosa is intrinsically resistant to all other penicillins)
* carbapenems (meropenem, imipenem, but not ertapenem)
* polymyxins (polymyxin B and colistin)
* monobactams (aztreonam)

These antibiotics must all be given by injection, with the exception of fluoroquinolones. For this reason, in some hospitals, fluoroquinolone use is severely restricted in order to avoid the development of resistant strains of P. aeruginosa.




just wanted to post this as it was one of the microbes he had found...
not to get off the agro subject.

-M

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« Reply #22 on Feb 7, 2007, 4:26pm »

Very interesting regarding agrobacterium - a ticking timebomb. Bioweapon.:


http://www.greens.org/s-r/33/33-08.html
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« Reply #23 on Feb 7, 2007, 4:53pm »

Here is more interesting findings from Joe Cummins. Someone should contact him to see if he can work with us or perhaps he already is?????


http://www.fao.org/Biotech/logs/C7/050602.htm
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« Reply #24 on Feb 7, 2007, 5:12pm »

http://www.i-sis.org.uk/meacher99.php#footnote50

Briefing Paper for Minister of State for the Environment

Special Safety Concerns of Transgenic Agriculture and Related Issues

Examples of unexpected, unintended toxicities and allergenicities are already known, even for cases where the organism's own genes are being increased in copy number, details of which can be found in earlier publications.14 I draw your attention to Monsanto's transgenic soya, which was approved by the UK Novel Foods Committee for our market since 1996 as 'substantially equivalent' and therefore safe. It was found, nevertheless, to have a 26.7% increase in a major allergen, trypsin-inhibitor, which is also a growth inhibitor.15 Consistent with this result, the growth rate of male rats was found to be inhibited by the transgenic soya.16 This raises the question as to whether the transgenic soya is responsible for the reported recent increase in soya allergy.17

The findings of Dr. Arpad Pusztai suggest that the major toxicities of two transgenic potatoes lines engineered with snowdrop lectin are due to the transgenic process, and not the lectin.18 The two transgenic lines are different from each other, and from subsequent generations of each line, underscoring the unpredictable, unstable nature of transgenic varieties. Pusztai's experiments are the first comprehensive safety-testing of any transgenic food/feed ever undertaken. They cannot, and should not, be lightly dismissed.
There is no case for regarding transgenic lines constructed with the same methods and involving the same gene constructs and plant varieties as a class, as far as safety assessment is concerned. Each resulting transgenic line is different, with different unexpected, unintended characteristics. Therefore, before each line is authorized for release into the environment, it must be thoroughly characterized with respect to the site(s) of foreign gene insertion. There must be evidence, supported with the appropriate molecular genetic and other scientific data, that the line is stable in gene expression and gene insert(s) under a reasonable range of conditions of growth for at least five generations. Appropriate toxicity/ allergenicity testing must be done on human volunteers. There is a very strong case that transgenic foods should be as stringently tested as new drugs.


When is scientific evidence considered sufficient to indicate that the risk is unacceptable? Risk is technically the extent of damage multiplied by the probability that the damage will occur. People take risk for a number of reasons: because they have to, or because there is overwhelming moral imperative for doing so, or because the likely benefits are compelling despite the potential damage. Not one of these reasons applies in the case of transgenic agriculture. On the contrary, existing scientific evidence pointing to the serious damages to health and the ecological environment that are likely to be incurred should compell us to call an immediate halt to the enterprise. That is in accordance with the generally accepted precautionary principle.53

Instead, scientists on the relevant advisory committees appear to have been operating on the inverse precautionary principle, according to which all processes and products must be approved unless proven absolutely unsafe. Arguments such as "no-one has been shown to have died from eating genetically engineered food yet" or "just because horizontal gene transfer happens in the laboratory does not mean it will happen in nature" go against the practice of good, sound science and are frankly irresponsible. It is like saying we have to wait for 8000 babies to be born with truncated limbs before admitting there is sufficient evidence that thalidomide is harmful.

The most rational, responsible course of action is to impose a five year moratorium at the very least, in order to create space for desperately needed research, and more importantly, for an open wide-ranging debate on the future of agriculture and food security for all.

more info in link provided above
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« Reply #25 on Feb 7, 2007, 5:17pm »

below is an 89 page document I found after googling the words agrobacterium harmful humans major investors

it is a report on Genetically Modified Plants

http://www.rirdc.gov.au/reports/Ras/01-108.pdf

have fun with this one!
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« Reply #26 on Feb 27, 2007, 8:04pm »

ok, so now what?
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« Reply #27 on Feb 27, 2007, 8:20pm »


Quote:


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Text of Dr. Mae-Wan Ho's contribution to the special educational forum organized by Congressman Tony Hall, 29 June, 2000, on Capitol Hill, Washington DC.
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3. Let me begin with recent report from Germany that GM genes in GM pollen have transferred to the bacteria and yeasts in the gut of baby bees (2).

4. This kind of horizontal gene transfer involves the direct uptake of foreign genetic material. It has been found to happen also in the field. After GM sugar beet was harvested, the GM genetic material persisted in the soil for at least two years and was taken up by soil bacteria (3).

5. Not only microorganisms, but animal cells, including human cells can readily take up the GM constructs and the foreign genes often end up in the cell's own genetic material, its genome (4).

6. Not so long ago, the pro-biotech scientists were insisting horizontal gene transfer couldn't happen. Now, they are saying it happens all the time, so no need to worry.


So in other words, this disease is being vectored through honey??
(I hyperbolize here... but still it's a possibility... and honey would certainly allow a potpourri of different gmo'd pollens to get collected from
huge areas of lands and intermixed before being laterally transferred
into the human population... when thought of that way, honey quickly loses it's sweetness...
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« Reply #28 on Feb 27, 2007, 9:48pm »

Niels:

I was watching the dvd THE FUTURE OF FOOD last night. It explained how genetic modification is drastically changing our food supply and even wild plants that weren't intended to be changed.

Strains of food crops that should be preserved for their unique characteristics are being adulterated as stray genetic modification occurs. The plants that are genetically modifed are aggressive invaders and contaminate many plants.

It's all about corporations wanting to insert themselves into the food chain, patenting food, and thus owning the rights to the patented food. The dvd shows how the research scientists conducted tests on this genetically modified food and it was found to be dangerous. They just kept the dangers quiet, fiddled with the results, or sent in studies that didn't mean anything but didn't show the dangerous results.

These genetically modified foods are BAD stuff. When it gets into the digestive system of animals and people it causes all kinds of harm.

The movie was fascinating in that it showed how Monsanto, one of the companies that is behind patenting all food plants in order to own everything bought out many seed companies.
Then they held back real seed lines and just sold the genetically modified seed. The patented stuff.

Because the tests they did to prove that things were safe were so flawed, they started to offer the government employees who were supposed to approve the genetically modified stuff very well-paying jobs with corporations, or "contractor" positions where they would make outrageous sums per day as an independent contractor.

Some of the people went back and forth from Monsanto to the government. Many of the positions illustrated in the movie were upper level people in the government - people whose faces and names are often in the news.

It was amazing.

After the movie was done, there are two extra interviews on the dvd. I watched one of them - it was very long - but packed chock full of information and names names. The interview describes how the "system" works.

One bit that caught my attention was when he explained how a strain of genetically modified soy was examined in Belgium and how the scientists in Belgium found that the soy contained various dna that shouldn't be there.

This video is a must see for any of the folks that are trying to figure out what the heck is going on here.

I recommend The Future of Food along with Sweet Misery and Sweet Remedy dvds. It's an eye-opener for sure.

QH


http://www.docworkers.com/store.php

The Future of Food Special Edition DVD 2-Disc
Directed by Deborah Koons Garcia

The Future of Food offers an in-depth investigation into the disturbing truth behind the unlabeled, patented, genetically engineered foods that have quietly filled U.S. grocery store shelves for the past decade.

Shot on location in the U.S., Canada and Mexico, The Future of Food examines the complex web of market and political forces that are changing what we eat as huge multinational corporations grab for control of the world's food system.

Special Features

Michael Pollan on The Cost of Food - Excerpt from a panel for a Slow Foods sponsored event
The Happy Box - A film about Community Supported Agriculture (CSA) by Erica Filanc
How to Save Seeds from Vegetables - A film by Underwood Gardens
Planting Seeds - A film about School Farming programs by the city of Santa Monica
GE Free recipes by Deborah Madison, Mollie Katzen, and more...
Excerpts from 4 films about farmers - "My Father's Garden," "Troublesome Creek," "Ripe for Change" and a film about Michael Ableman
Taking Action Toolkit & web resources


The FUTURE OF FOOD dvd is about $20
SWEET MISERY is about $20 on this website too.
(This website doesn't have SWEET REMEDY)


http://www.sweetmiserydvd.com/#offer

http://www.sweetremedy.tv/index.html

NOTE: For people who can't afford to buy these dvds and can't find any place to rent them, I bought some extras and when they arrive I will gladly loan them out for viewing.

I checked Netflix and they have Sweet Misery and The Future of Food. I put in a request that they also stock Sweet Remedy.
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« Reply #29 on Feb 27, 2007, 10:45pm »

Prevenge, LOL - Oh my gosh, I bust a gut when I read " kind of fruit are you;D ;Du." And Lord knows I needed desperately to laugh today. I am indebted to you for lifting my spirits. Keep it up. ;D
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« Reply #30 on Jan 6, 2008, 6:15pm »

Prevenge, see my theory thread ...
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« Reply #31 on Jan 6, 2008, 11:51pm »

wow weird to read stuff i wrote almost a year ago.

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« Reply #32 on Jan 7, 2008, 8:49am »

What's weird too Prevenge, is your article there on P. A. is I think the exact one I copied for Robertalouise yesterday with a link.
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« Reply #33 on Jan 7, 2008, 11:15am »

Being somewhat an "oldie" who's been around a long time, Iv'e found it common place to see info, links and advice posted by myself and others repeated several times over the years. Lots of overlapping highways and byways on the net that we all share. It's good to see helpful info reposted for the newbies. I find myself saying "Great, that's what so many of us have been sharing for years....glad to see it sinking in." Especially when it's health and lifestyle changes that help us all. ... JJ
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« Reply #34 on Jan 9, 2008, 8:36pm »

it liiiiiivess.... the monster Agrostein... it likes you very mulch!
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« Reply #35 on Jan 9, 2008, 8:38pm »

Actually, frankenbacterium sounds better
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« Reply #36 on Jan 9, 2008, 8:44pm »

haha that's a good name Niels.

Prevenge, we're on the same page there with the P.A.
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« Reply #37 on Jan 10, 2008, 1:19am »

That is what I have got Prevenge and they haven't given me any anti biotics and I am very scared that my dog has pseudomicrothorax dubius what is the treatment for that. Thank you so much. Love and best wishes. Roberta.
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