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Post by robertalouise26 on Apr 9, 2008 18:33:11 GMT -5
Dearest Sid we have been talking about collembola for years now. And i see this sticky glue stuff in Kyras' coat all the time. When it appears it has all sorts of other material sticking to it. I HATE IT!!! Ayla also had it. When they are on the skin they are sooooo difficult to remove because they stick to the skin. The only way I know of getting rid of them on our skin is to smother them with vaseline or use any ointment that has alcohol in it. Does Kyra bring them into the house? or are they breeding in our body? or do they bring another parasite with them? One thing that I have noticed Sid is that they appear in my clothes and on Kyra when we are out walking in direct sunlight. I can wear black trousers black top and after 5 minutes in the sunlight they appear all over my clothes. Like a very fine powder gluey stuff appears about 5 to 10 minutes after we have been walking. I HATE IT SOOOO MUCH because I know that it has something to do with our condition.!!!!!!! I will swear on the bible to that Sid!!!! I hope that you are feeling well and taking good care of yourself. Much much love and hugs. Robbie
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Post by belikewater on Apr 9, 2008 18:43:52 GMT -5
Thank you for the information and pictures.
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Post by belikewater on Apr 9, 2008 18:50:49 GMT -5
Also, a couple of years ago I was able to download pages from a US Army dermatology manual. Infection of the skin by colembolla was definitely seen as an issue in soldiers living in fox-holes or without benefit of showers. The doctor was instructed to NOT think of the patient as crazy until skin scrapings had been done.
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Post by bigmike on Apr 9, 2008 20:47:42 GMT -5
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Post by skytroll on Apr 9, 2008 22:04:48 GMT -5
Abstract. The Collembola evolved from Poduromorpha, linear forms with furcula, and Entomobryomorpha, linear forms with well developed furca into Symphypleona, globular forms with well developed furca. Neelipleona, globular forms with reduced abdomen are a derived form of Entomobryomorpha. Poduromorpha, such as Neanuridae, Onychiuridae and Tullbergiidae, with vestigial furcula, Entomobryomorpha, such as Microfalculidae and some Isotomidae, and Symphypleona, such as Mackenziellidae, with a furcula are secondarely regressive forms." www.collembola.org/Sydney check this out. www.harunyahya.com/books/darwinism/living_fossils/fossils_08.phpHey, look at this in amber, is what kept them intact. tinyurl.com/38t6lawww.fossilmuseum.net/Fossil_Galleries/Insect_Galleries_by_Order/Class_Collembola_fossil_insect_gallery/Class_Collembola_ fossil_insect_gallery.htm Skytroll
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Post by ruth on Apr 9, 2008 23:19:31 GMT -5
hi toni,
i can't see it without a scope, but my eyes are not clear.
when i lost sight of it, i had to put it under my better scope
to refind it.
oh my God, found intact in her stool! this is the so very bizarre.
sidney, thanks for the information, i thought prevenge had one similar.
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Post by felixwillford on Apr 10, 2008 1:42:34 GMT -5
Quote from Freyman:
there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that this is a life form of the sponge, and the organism in this video made it's way into the hair after eating it's core. Yes it is bizarre but I swear on my life it happened.
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I watched your video...............are you saying that that thing actually came from inside the hair and then ended on the outside? Thanks, and extremely "well" yuky video.........................Thanks, Kmarie
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Post by freyman on Apr 10, 2008 3:06:35 GMT -5
I did not witness it coming out of hair, I collected it after combing through my hair over a clean sheet of white paper, I've found that the scalp is a good indicator of the "apparent" level of infection, atleast for me anyway, and I have collected some interesting objects in this manner. The video you have seen begins just seconds after I first saw the parasite under the microscope, it continued this feeding frenzy for sometime, I have several more videos that are almost identical but total time was maybe 20-25 min, in fact I was getting bored with it and stepped away for a bit then looked again maybe a couple hours later and it was no longer moviing but it was atleast halfway into the hair, I have video of this too, nothing moves in it though but it is a video. then next time I looked it was gone, I'm sure in there somewhere but hiding. I'l try to post that video again at you tube, tried lastnight and it wasn't working.
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Post by prevenge on Apr 10, 2008 9:20:02 GMT -5
it does have a striking resemblance to a dust mite. maybe some new oversized breed? ?? -M
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Post by freyman on Apr 10, 2008 14:17:37 GMT -5
I agree that the goo is the origin and as a result of research I have every reason to believe that goo is from the phylum porifera, there is just way too many supporting facts not to atleast consider this, the circumstantial evidence is just overwhelming when all compiled. One must really learn this for themselves since you have no reason to believe me. I will go a step beyond science's current understanding of the sponge by conjecturing that it is either the origin of a great many organisms on this planet or it is a master of mimicry because it is always found cohabitating with a number of other species, the dust mite could very well be one of it's products.
Remember a few things, the sponge is the oldest animal on the earth, it has traits that can logically explain things that seem bizarre to us, no others have these traits, and it is always co-habitating with a large number of symbionts, it is the most likely suspect
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Post by skytroll on Apr 10, 2008 14:25:07 GMT -5
Is it that or the lymnea Would this help Freyman? gobics.de/department/theses/fs_msc_thesis.pdfA phylogeny pipeline and its application to contribute to resolving the phylogeny of sponges Think they had to create an intermediary skytroll
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Post by skytroll on Apr 10, 2008 14:32:16 GMT -5
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Post by reasonable on Apr 10, 2008 14:36:42 GMT -5
Response from Mark
"One Theory I'm Pursuing"
As I stated before, I have a theory that the hairs are being modified, for example "hollowed-out" and that the secretion material is filling up inside them -- the secretion material may be moving, or causing the apparent movement, not the actual "hair" -- the goo is thus our possible culprit. I also have a feeling that the goo uses other materials/fibers/filaments for this apparent locomotive facilitation -- and possibly for organic and inorganic materials that it needs in order to propagate. There are other filaments of interest that may have motility as well -- we will look for all of these manifestations.
This all reminds me of Myxomycota, the slime molds. They would behave like this and produce goo that covers their colony. They also produce cellulose fibers and iridescent sporangia. The only problem, they are plant pathogens/saprophytes and have never been found infecting mammals.
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Post by toni on Apr 10, 2008 14:52:19 GMT -5
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Post by freyman on Apr 10, 2008 15:03:54 GMT -5
A year ago I was a believer of science's theory of evolution, bordering on atheism even, but I can no longer buy into something that has absolutely no evidence to support it. In my opinion what science thinks is evidence of evolution could actually be evidence that the sponge has been a parasite of vertebrates so long that it has become part of the genomes. Therefore I now have to temper whatever science theorizes with the likelyhood that they are wrong. Because of this I have had to reconsider my position on evolution versus creation and now choose the latter as having more credibility, needless to say, this has had a profound effect on my life, for the better I might add.
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Post by Jill on Apr 10, 2008 15:17:28 GMT -5
A year ago I was a believer of science's theory of evolution, bordering on atheism even, but I can no longer buy into something that has absolutely no evidence to support it. In my opinion what science thinks is evidence of evolution could actually be evidence that the sponge has been a parasite of vertebrates so long that it has become part of the genomes. Therefore I now have to temper whatever science theorizes with the likelyhood that they are wrong. Because of this I have had to reconsider my position on evolution versus creation and now choose the latter as having more credibility, needless to say, this has had a profound effect on my life, for the better I might add. Very glad to read that! You can feel the sincerity in your posts. Informative- instructional and not a bit condesending. You make a good case for those sponges! And that video! Splains a lot! Jill
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Post by freyman on Apr 10, 2008 15:45:42 GMT -5
A year ago I was a believer of science's theory of evolution, bordering on atheism even, but I can no longer buy into something that has absolutely no evidence to support it. In my opinion what science thinks is evidence of evolution could actually be evidence that the sponge has been a parasite of vertebrates so long that it has become part of the genomes. Therefore I now have to temper whatever science theorizes with the likelyhood that they are wrong. Because of this I have had to reconsider my position on evolution versus creation and now choose the latter as having more credibility, needless to say, this has had a profound effect on my life, for the better I might add. Very glad to read that! You can feel the sincerity in your posts. Informative- instructional and not a bit condesending. You make a good case for those sponges! And that video! Splains a lot! Jill Thanks Jill, I didn't set out or at all expect for this to happen, but knowledge has set me free and I know my life is going to be better because of this.
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Post by skytroll on Apr 10, 2008 16:34:22 GMT -5
Isn't that what science is about Freyman?
Discovery, always has been.
Am glad to hear it, as well.
There is so much evidence.
skytroll
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Post by robertalouise26 on Apr 10, 2008 16:46:21 GMT -5
Dearest friend thank you sooo much for your post. I have been worried about this goo looking stiuff for nearly 12 years. I don't know what it is but was breeding in my other dogs coat and now I see it in Kyras coat It is a glob with lots of stuff sticking to it some of which I think are parasites. Very best wishes. Roberta,'
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Post by reasonable on Apr 10, 2008 19:00:18 GMT -5
FYI, saprophytes are organisms feeding on dead/decaying matter. I did not say that "saprophytes have never been found infecting mammals", I said myxomycota has never been found infecting mammals. See the difference?
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