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Post by bessie on Apr 10, 2008 19:47:49 GMT -5
Mark - I hope you will be able to answer this. It is SO PAINFUL to see different researchers working independently, as though this were just another disease, and maybe there's a Nobel Prize waiting. It's NOT. This thing is spreading like crazy, all over the world, and if ALL THE SCIENTISTS don't put their self-interests and egos aside, I (and thousands others) fear Apocalypse is very close. I see Dr. Staninger working completely alone, and she has SO MUCH VALIDATED information. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE - CALL HER, ALL OF YOU - and work together on this. Share everything you know, and ideas about what you don't know. Months ago the MRF stated on their website they were doing "dna analysis of the black specks". Then they said something like "the results are inconclusive" then not another word. They KNOW the black specks are the "starter" units that grow everything else. Even I know that, just from observing the crap from my body. I truly am begging you, in the name of God, to seek an active coalition while there MAY still be time. Afterall, you and your families are at risk along with the rest of the world. Bessie
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Post by felixwillford on Apr 10, 2008 21:51:06 GMT -5
HEY Everyone,
Ruth's sample images are on the Scientific Website!
Mark looked at them Last night.Ruth has seen them...............and she has more samples that Mark will be looking at. To the others that sent samples.....................let me know if it's alright to have you identity revealed when the samples are turned into IMAGES for viewing. lymebusters.proboards39.com/index.c.cgi?board=rash&action=display&thread=1207747568 REMEMBER to POST all COMMENTS and Questions for Mark Darrah
here on this Thread!
Thanks so much!
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Post by freyman on Apr 10, 2008 23:43:08 GMT -5
with great respect, freyman, i can not even consider a sponge. from the moment i read dr. staningers research................ i knew it to be true...........i have spent thousands of hours under the scope, she opened the door. silentsuperbug has dna sequences available, yet we constantly want dna done? what she and he say go hand in hand (not origins) in my limited understanding. i wonder why the other researchers stay away from their research? I'm disappointed to hear that you won't atleast consider it Ruth, I understand the passion we all have for finding the answers and stopping this nightmare and I know you can't possibly be more stubborn than I am but even I would consider alternate theories if I was presented with enough evidence. . There is no other theory that places so much under one umbrella and does it with such an overwhelming amount of evidence, albeit primarily circumstantial, as the sponge theory. We send people to their deaths based upon circumstantial evidence, it can be powerful and even overwhelming in some cases, like it is in this one. I can't simply make a few posts though to convince you, it's something you have to open your mind to but once you do you will see how it all fits. Please understand that I have nothing but respect for people like Dr Hildy & Cliff Mickelson who have contributed immensely to this effort , in fact I relieded heavily on some of their work to come to my conclusion. I simply have no choice but to respectfully disagree with the direction they're taking at this point, I would love to have them in my corner though. For reasons I do not yet understand, I have been compelled to take this journey, I have been lead to this place where I am now and I have no choice but to ride it out. I never was one to have much faith but this journey has been so powerful for me that it has changed my perspective on evolution, and has compelled me to question everything, I would have bet against that happening a year ago. There are some powerful forces here, I think we all know that in one way or another. I can't explain it, but I can theorize about it and I can follow my intuition, it has been leading the way up to now.
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Post by bannanny on Apr 10, 2008 23:54:38 GMT -5
Well, you're downright amazing Mark! I've been offline for awhile cuz I've been worse than ever....... still am. I'll be sending you an e-mail about something I find to be pretty interesting. I've been busy being sick, so I haven't gotten my samples off to you yet, but I will. I'm upset cuz I can't see the SEM images on the other thread....... I'm real upset about it. It's this dam dial up! It took me a half hour for just one of the pix to load. I would've had to wait hours for just one page to load! So I won't be able to join in on that thread. I wonder why they take so long when other pix that we all post on here don't?? I wanna see them so bad it hurts. I've got to find some way of getting hi speed internet out here, or if anyone knows of a way for me to see them without having to wait hours for them to load, please let me know. Anyway, I want to say something about the environment. I feel this crap in everything, everywhere. Almost every time I open a jar or use a cleaning wipe, or put on clothing....... just about anything I do....... I feel the particles being released and they hit me on my body somewhere. Just like the first time I got this. It felt like someone blew sand out of a blowgun into my forehead. I know now that it was a pod, a crystal or a seed, whatever you wanna call them....... it exploded, releasing the particles into my hair where they entered and invaded the rest of my body from. They're like spores and I think this thing works in the same way as mold does. I'm seeing so much of the amber colored, sticky gel everywhere....... it spreads like mold would. It permeates into everything, and lines the edges of things like glue and is constantly releasing fibers, glass tubes, and releasing particles into the air. It seems to me that this gel substance plays a huge part in this. I also think the gel has the ability to turn into the glass shards. I feel those pierce my skin quite often and I see bright sparks everywhere too. I also think the long cob web feeling fibers unwind from the segmented tubes. It's everything I feel and see....... and it all makes sense with everything I feel and see. If we only knew what it is, where it came from and most importantly how to get rid of it. This mess is environmentally so extreme (in my case anyway) that I'm beginning to wonder if there's ever gonna be a way to escape it. It's almost as tho there's been an explosion of it everywhere lately. I know I could be herxing becuz I'm on Dr. Hildy's protocol, but I'm talking about the environment now and the intensity of this that I feel in it. It's totally separate from what's in me, but it's all one in the same. Mark, Dr. Hildy told me that she thought the black tarry stuff in one of my pix was sol gel. So you might want to look into that too. I'm gonna put 2 pix of a sample I got from my bathroom floor below. It looks like the amber goo to the naked eye, but under the scope, it looks like shards of glass doesn't it? I'm not sure if we can post pix on this thread, but since I think this is an important sample pic, I'm gonna put it here. It's the only one I'll do, I hope you don't mind....... I just really want to know what you think about it. I'm praying so very much for you to find the answers we all need to have. God bless you for all the hard work you're doing on our behalf. This is what looks like goo on the tape....... different under the scope tho.......
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Post by suebe on Apr 11, 2008 0:30:18 GMT -5
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kmarie, Thank you so much for posting the pictures, I really look forward to tomorrows post.
I'm so glad he's looking into our hair, i think the answers will be found there, it for sure uses up whatever we have in the middle of our hair and leaves it empty.
Now I know for sure that dogs get Morgellons, I knew it, guess I didn't want to really believe it. When my boarder collie got sick with Morgellons she got lesions all over the top of her back.
I got her from the pound, after a week I noticed a small knot on the top of her back about the size of a finger tip, the vet. pushed on it, wiggled it and ladybug showed no signs of pain so the vet said she thought it was just a fatty growth, no problem.
A few weeks later Ladybug started going nutz at night, itching like crazy, she'd lay by a door jam and move back and forth, rubbing her back on it and cry out. All her hair fell out of her back with in a week, the skin looked very shinny and strange, had a moist sticky feel to it. We went back to the vet. and she gave her something for the insane itching and something for allergy's.
The medication didn't help her, she was crying out from the itching and she started to get lesions all over her back. The vet. put her on antibiotics and started doing wound care every few days but it got worse and worse.
They were suggesting that maybe we should put her down because nothing was healing the lesions or stopping her suffering. She was only a year old and the folks that gave her up to the pound admitted they had kept her in a crate in the basement for the whole year they had her, said with work and life getting a dog was a bad decision (no kidding).
I didn't want to give up on her so I went and got a very big loan cause what the vet. wanted to try cost a lot.
Every other day I'd drive her to the hospital, they would put her under and slice the skin off her back, it was very gooey, yucky skin, we were hoping to start seeing the pink new skin that would indicate it was healing, we did this treatment every other day for a month, also did a surgery to put tubing with small holes in it implanted under her skin, it was deep, that was so every 4 hours I could pore bettedine(sp) in the tube to help with healing, plus we were trying lots of different antibiotics.
Then the last part was a surgery to put balloons in to help stretch the good skin on her belly.
At long last all the horror had gotten sliced away and we were starting to see some pink healthy buds as the vet. called it. Then she did the skin grafts.
Oh I was so afraid that whatever it was would come back and destroy the skin grafts but the vet. had been very careful to wait and keep slicing the bad tissue away.
My vet. said she's never ever seen anything like this stuff in her life. But she healed just fine and she's a very pretty girl now.
But the one thing the vet would point out that made her crazy with wondering was-
All of the hair was empty, nothing inside it, a empty tube. The vet. looked for mites but never found one. She could not figure out what made her hair empty.
A year later her hair started falling out again so back we went, yep the hairs that were falling out were also empty tubes, she put her on antibiotics for a month and it got better.
Has been and stayed just fine, keeping my fingers crossed.
My chest area is full of (well about 30 lumps, very small) I was worried about it but the radiologist said they were insignificant (or something that means that) so they didn't want to do follow up on them.
I think whatever this horror is forms a cyst like thing in our bodies and when those cyst break open, all hell breaks loose. I have them in my scalp also, shoot just call me old lumpy, he he
Again Sue got long winded, sorry, but I wanted to share with Mark just how important our "empty hairs" are and I'll send him a copy of Lady Bugs medical records if he would like them.
Thank you so much Kmarie, your a wonderful person, a great lady and I love ya bunches. Link to Post - Back to Top Logged
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If we want our children to have a future. The answer to Morgellons must be found.
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Post by freyman on Apr 11, 2008 0:33:01 GMT -5
Responses from Mark Darrah "One Theory I'm Pursuing" As I stated before, I have a theory that the hairs are being modified, for example "hollowed-out" and that the secretion material is filling up inside them -- the secretion material may be moving, or causing the apparent movement, not the actual "hair" -- the goo is thus our possible culprit. I also have a feeling that the goo uses other materials/fibers/filaments for this apparent locomotive facilitation -- and possibly for organic and inorganic materials that it needs in order to propagate. There are other filaments of interest that may have motility as well -- we will look for all of these manifestations. Here are some quotes describing features of sponges where foreign material is common.
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Post by felixwillford on Apr 11, 2008 0:36:42 GMT -5
Hey Sue,
You did it.......................didn't even need me to explain! I agree with you about the children needing a future!
No Sue.............Long winded is good because I always enjoy reading your heartfelt post.
I love ya bunches too!
The board would not be the same without you here. You are loved by all!
Kmarie
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Post by felixwillford on Apr 11, 2008 0:41:48 GMT -5
Bananny,
How are you feeling? Yes, I see stuff in the environment too and am always throwing things away.
Nice pics as usual from you.
The Images from Mark are downloaded the same way I have always downloaded photo's.
Try it again, when I had dial up, sometimes things would work better depending on how busy the phone lines were.
Well at least that is what I noticed when I had dial up.
Kmarie
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Post by freyman on Apr 11, 2008 0:43:24 GMT -5
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Post by felixwillford on Apr 11, 2008 0:50:57 GMT -5
Quote from SUE:
All of the hair was empty, nothing inside it, a empty tube. The vet. looked for mites but never found one. She could not figure out what made her hair empty.
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This is interesting and seems to go with Mark's theory. I will point this out to him.
Freyman,
Likewise, Mark will see your information as well!
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Post by freyman on Apr 11, 2008 2:38:01 GMT -5
This better supports my theory than the theory of evolution, genetic coding for a nervous system in an organism that has none, doesn't make sense does it? and the fact that it is remarkably similar to human coding, I believe that the sponge stores the dna of it's many hosts and mimics those hosts at will. In our case it likely mimics whatever it is in or on, thus the difficulty in finding it.
Animal Mimicry is really the only logical way to explain the numerous organisms reported with morgellons, the only other way to address these claims is to discredit them and to discredit so many reports would not be logical either.
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Post by ed on Apr 11, 2008 2:49:52 GMT -5
This better supports my theory than the theory of evolution, that the sponge stores the dna of it's many hosts and mimics those hosts at will. ah......Poriferaians have hosts???.. .Ed
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Post by freyman on Apr 11, 2008 3:04:33 GMT -5
some do yes, they are called parasitic sponges, but my claim goes much deeper than science's current understanding of sponges in general, so if your finding the parasite/host angle amusing or unbelievable then you should stay tuned because it gets better.
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Post by ed on Apr 11, 2008 4:35:23 GMT -5
some do yes, they are called parasitic sponges, but my claim goes much deeper than science's current understanding of sponges in general, so if your finding the parasite/host angle amusing or unbelievable then you should stay tuned because it gets better. ah.........what part of my question gave you the impression that I found anything amusing?? .. .Ed
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Post by ruth on Apr 11, 2008 11:05:12 GMT -5
mark has already stated he has found an unidentified protein. this is a comment from the foresight nano site.
"prion Says:
August 24th, 2000 at 7:35 am prions are indeed fascinating proteins
And they are not merely disease agents. They transmit hereditary traits in the absence of DNA and RNA!"
the only thing i have to go on is watching the formation of an insect from my own skin. the formation is not as a biological forms. took hundreds of hours of repetitions to finally see this, and now, over and over.
googling nanotechnology prions.......................so much information and way over my head.
but self replicating prions could be it? i know my brain is turning to mush.
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Post by felixwillford on Apr 11, 2008 12:13:02 GMT -5
Notice from Mark:
He state he will be out of the loop due to his "moving" and he computer is not hooked up.
Ruth,
He has many more samples of yours to view and those should get posted Wednesday!
Those who sent samples to his previouse address, all his mail will be forwarded.
Thanks so much for helping with research,
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Post by freyman on Apr 11, 2008 13:38:45 GMT -5
My appologies Ed for jumping to conclusions, it was the "ah" I suppose that did it, my mistake.
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Post by bessie on Apr 12, 2008 13:29:14 GMT -5
Mark - MRF stated last fall that they were doing dna ananlysis of the black specks. About a month later they said something like "the results of the dna analysis are inconclusive". Then they dropped all reference to them from their web page altogether. There are answers in that if you can get the info. I was told by another scientist that they are the "starter" thing. This fits my perception, as I have seen some black specks that have "grown" things that are still attached to them. Most look like nymphs, but I've had seeds with black in them (millet seeds, which were common in my environment). Two of these seeds actually came out of my body with a little "sprout" attached. It seems as though they may drop off our bodies and then replicate things they find there. Is this too far out? Bessie
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Post by bessie on Apr 13, 2008 16:43:17 GMT -5
This could also explain the honey bees dying. 0evidently it is some sort of mite that they cannot fight off. One speculation is that the bees are eating GMO foods. I think it's entirely possible that the "mites" are Morg-mites.
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Post by felixwillford on Apr 14, 2008 8:44:08 GMT -5
Question from mfromcanada:
Mark, What is a Ramon graph and what are you hoping it will show?
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Mark's Response
Raman Microspectroscopy looks at light scattering from a laser source focused on a sample. A fingerprint, or spectrum, is recorded on a graph, and it has particular peaks that identify molecules that are present. So we are trying to get an idea of what the black spec material and other manifestations are made of.
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