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Post by felixwillford on Apr 14, 2008 8:50:42 GMT -5
Mark - MRF stated last fall that they were doing dna ananlysis of the black specks. About a month later they said something like "the results of the dna analysis are inconclusive". Then they dropped all reference to them from their web page altogether. There are answers in that if you can get the info. I was told by another scientist that they are the "starter" thing. This fits my perception, as I have seen some black specks that have "grown" things that are still attached to them. Most look like nymphs, but I've had seeds with black in them (millet seeds, which were common in my environment). Two of these seeds actually came out of my body with a little "sprout" attached. It seems as though they may drop off our bodies and then replicate things they find there. Is this too far out? Bessie Mark's ResponseHi Bessie: I don't know about your theory -- I have to be able to observe that phenomena in order to have an opinion about it. More analysis will answer, and raise, more questions.
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Post by bigmike on Apr 15, 2008 20:14:53 GMT -5
Look at photos 1 and 2 and you will see an insect, though not a honey bee, with a red mite attached to the poor fellow. This guy was alive and I have video, although I don't remember if he is a right handed as the one seemed to be in the video previously posted as a link from this thread. share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=0Abs2zho3bt2Loo
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Post by ruth on Apr 16, 2008 1:57:08 GMT -5
mike, it wouldn't open for me, i'll try again in the morning.
i'm so excited to know what protein mark found.
this is from dr. staningers' report:
- - A disease in which individuals have the growth of fibers from their skin that burn at 1,700 degrees F and do not melt. (20)(* see below) A private study to determine the chemical and biological composition of these fibers has shown that the fibers' outer casing is made up of high density polyethylene fiber (HDPE). The fiber material is used commonly in the manufacture of fiber optics. There is no history of the individual in that industry or coming into contact with this material. It was further determined that this material is used throughout the bio nanotechnology world as a compound to encapsulate a viral protein envelope, which is composed of a viron (1/150th times smaller than a virus) with DNA, RNA, RNAi (mutated RNA) or RNAsi linear or ring plasmids for specific functions. (21, 22) Toxicological pathology identification of tissue biopsies from an individual diagnosed with Morgellons revealed the presence of continual silica or glass tubules with the presence of silicone. (23) Dr. Staninger's full paper presented at conference
It must be noted that the core toxicological effects of silicone alone have been demonstrated throughout the breast implant industry and litigation cases. (24, 25)
Furthermore, silicone cannot make silica, but silica or silica bicarbonate can make silicone through natural cellular interaction in a biological system. The subject did not have breast implants or any other implant or silicon glue injections. "
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Post by gradysghost on Apr 16, 2008 22:11:35 GMT -5
Just an FYI I'm listening in, not posting, curious as to the sponge info, thanks Kmarie, you're an angel.
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Post by felixwillford on Apr 17, 2008 1:07:50 GMT -5
Nice to see ya here Grady!
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Post by skytroll on Apr 17, 2008 1:13:36 GMT -5
Mark,
Could the claw in one of the photos, be an insect part or water organism part? it sure appears as one and that could be the poking thing we feel? Looks almost like the claw on the bloodworm.
Skytroll
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Post by felixwillford on Apr 17, 2008 15:09:19 GMT -5
Mark, Could the claw in one of the photos, be an insect part or water organism part? it sure appears as one and that could be the poking thing we feel? Looks almost like the claw on the bloodworm. Skytroll Response from MarkNo -- I don't think so -- we would have seen that. I believe it could be one of the segmented filaments. It's possible that these filaments are moving/polymerizing/growing through the hair shaft.
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Post by skytroll on Apr 17, 2008 19:17:10 GMT -5
I wonder though, it could be just the claw, they can grow from freezedried DNA as well and would only grow the claw, due to the fact that evolution folks can grow body plans. Also like Roundup Ready has freezedried parts of insects from insect stem cells. Just add water.
Skytroll
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Post by jeff on Apr 18, 2008 22:16:45 GMT -5
Mark is it possible that in the hair that you find that has undergone changes..could it be ingrown hair that has undergone attack by the immune system and in fact morgellons might be a autoimmune condition.
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Post by ruth on May 7, 2008 12:49:22 GMT -5
hi mark,
i am wondering if you will be posting pics and graphs of the
hair that i cut from my head and sent you?
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Post by felixwillford on May 7, 2008 22:56:42 GMT -5
hi mark, i am wondering if you will be posting pics and graphs of the hair that i cut from my head and sent you? Response from Mark Darrah: I will get to your hair samples for sure -- have much to look at --
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Post by ruth on May 8, 2008 13:02:29 GMT -5
hi mark, i thought you may be interested in these pics. am i understanding you correct, that the crystals are graphing out as pesticides? could this be related to G.M. food consumed? would the color of the crystals be indicative of type?
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Post by ruth on May 8, 2008 13:17:22 GMT -5
there is a pic on this site that matches the circle in my 3rd pic by the pink double hex above. the image would not copy (got it to copy on next post) tinyurl.com/64sorfsearch.live.com/images/results.aspx?q=protein+crystals&FORM=BIRE#focal=34585f24a65e309deca4a5b3a7994a21&furl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww1.cs.columbia.edu%2F~atanas%2Fresearch%2Fseeding%2Fseeded_crystals.jpgThe Protein Streak Seeding Project Atanas Georgiev and Prof. Peter K. Allen in collaboration with Prof. John Hunt and his group from the Dept. of Biological Sciences and Ting Song and Prof. Andrew Laine from the Dept. of Biomedical Engineering Overview The goal of the Protein Streak Seeding project is the creation of an innovative high-throughput (HTP) microrobotic system for a protein crystallography task called streak seeding. The system uses visual feedback from a camera mounted on a microscope to control a micromanipulator which has the mounting tool attached as its end-effector. For use with our robotic system, we have developed unique new tools, called miscroshovels, which are designed to address certain limitations of the traditionally used by crystallographers whiskers, bristles, or other kinds of hair. The motivation for this project, along with some background information, is described separately. Streak seeded crystals Task Description Streak seeding is useful when the initial crystallization experiments yield crystals which are too small (less than 40um in size) and/or of low quality and can not be used for structure determination. To obtain higher quality crystals, a new reaction is setup like the original one, however, before incubation, small fragments of the initially obtained crystals are transferred to the new protein-reagent mixture to bootstrap the crystallization process. This crystal fragment transfer process is called streak seeding. The task of streak seeding consists of three steps (right). First, the tool to be used is washed in clean water to remove any residue. Second, the tool is used to touch and probe the existing crystals thus breaking them up into fragments and picking some up. Third, the tool is streaked through the fresh mixture, which deposits some of the fragments in it. For this to work, the tool has to have the necessary properties to be able to break up, retain and release crystal fragments. Typically, various types of hair, bristles, whiskers or horse tail are used. Step 1: Wash Step 2: Touch Step 3: Streak System Design And Operation We have designed and assembled a micro-robotic system for protein crystal manipulation, which we use for our research and experiments. The system uses our own custom tools, called microshovels, which we designed and fabricated using MEMS technology. The streak seeding system is designed to work with the hanging drop crystallization method, seeding from source crystals on a 22mm square coverslip to destination drops on a coversheet for a 96-well plate. The user sets up the system by placing on the stage the coverslip with the protein crystals, the coversheet of the 96-well plate with the target protein droplets, and a microbridge with water used for cleaning the seeding tool. Then the system is started and it performs the seeding autonomously. The video on the right (sped up twice) shows the system in operation. Automatic streak seeding (6.7MB) Publications Streak Seeding Automation Using Silicon Tools Technical Report CUCS-015-06, Columbia University, Computer Science Deptartment, 2006 (with Sergey Vorobiev, William Edstrom, Ting Song, Andrew Laine, John Hunt, and Peter Allen) Full text Abstract BibTex entry Microrobotic Streak Seeding For Protein Crystal Growth Robotics: Science and Systems Conference, Cambridge, MA, June 2005 (with Peter K. Allen, Ting Song, Andrew Laine, William Edstrom and John Hunt) Full text Abstract BibTex entry Robotic Protein Crystal Streak Seeding Using Silicon Microtools International Conference on Structural Genomics, Washington, DC, November 2004 (poster). (with Peter K. Allen, William Edstrom, John Hunt, Ting Song and Andrew Laine) Poster Abstract -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Last updated: March 29, 2006
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Post by ruth on May 8, 2008 13:24:17 GMT -5
these match my circles. are you able to verify these circles some way? ?? i wanted to mention that you can release these circles from the skin particles with water, although you probably already know this.
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Post by toni on May 8, 2008 18:21:40 GMT -5
I've seen those under my scope too. (the circles) exactly like that.
Mark do you feel possibly because of the agrobacterium, that that is what's allowed (possibly) these other bacteriums from pesticides (Bacillus Subtilis, Bacillus Thuringiensis) and "whatever else to enter our body"? Basically "allowed certain particular bacteriums to grab onto our DNA"?
And I'll just ask this right out, do you feel we could be growing in a sense, crown gall material or just picking up other DNA from (pesticides or GM food) and that's integrating with our DNA?
Thank you very much.
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Post by gezunked on May 9, 2008 20:14:28 GMT -5
Hi Mark, I was sorry to hear the news that your research has been stopped. Thanks for you for your efforts to assist in identifying Morgellons. In the interests of consolidating what research you were able to do and for the benefit of future investigators, would it be possible for you to write up your observations and any speculations as to what is indicated to date? Any thoughts you may have on the direction of future research I am sure would be invaluable. I have no scientific background however I note your study indicates a high likelihood of the presence of tannins. Have you considered any connection between Dr Citovsky's agrobacterium findings and your indications of tannin? I have found many references similar to "Condensed Tannin Formation by Agrobacterium rhizogenes" ( jxb.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/43/2/221 ) and wonder if these references may be relevant to Morgellons. Again, thanks for your time and effort.
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Post by felixwillford on May 9, 2008 20:44:58 GMT -5
Hi Mark, I was sorry to hear the news that your research has been stopped. Thanks for you for your efforts to assist in identifying Morgellons. In the interests of consolidating what research you were able to do and for the benefit of future investigators, would it be possible for you to write up your observations and any speculations as to what is indicated to date? Any thoughts you may have on the direction of future research I am sure would be invaluable. I have no scientific background however I note your study indicates a high likelihood of the presence of tannins. Have you considered any connection between Dr Citovsky's agrobacterium findings and your indications of tannin? I have found many references similar to "Condensed Tannin Formation by Agrobacterium rhizogenes" ( jxb.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/43/2/221 ) and wonder if these references may be relevant to Morgellons. Again, thanks for your time and effort. Hi, Mark has not given up. He will find another lab. I have passed your information above to Mark for review. Thank you, Kmarie
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Post by lilsissy on May 10, 2008 20:03:40 GMT -5
Mark,
I am Chaosonline's sister. I bought her some Dead Sea salt to put in her bath and when she did it burnt her skin in one area that resulted in a definite hexagonal reddening in that area.
Why would dead sea salt cause this? Thank you for all you do and I am praying God will open the door's for Morgellons research! May the Holy Spirit fill you and the Guardian Angles of God protect you and your work and this community!!!!!!! Lilsissy
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Post by socalsandy on May 12, 2008 7:27:03 GMT -5
Dear Mark, we really appreciate all you are doing , and I hope we can all figure this out as I amsure a cure is on the way. We Americans think we are imune to illnesses that have plagued other contries for years, but we too have some rare stuff going on here now. I will say it again, our common host is a snail from water the black specs are the shell, I belive that with my whole heart, they sometimes have the larva or worm still attached. They are in the sistome family, maybe altered or maybe just out of control. I talked to my 19 year old grandaughter yesterday, she went to Hawaii for her senior trip to visit the Lost set. She said every path they took had a warning sign that said don't get in any standing water , contamiaded by sistomiasis( not spelled right I am sure) ( a water snail) and was fatal to seek medical attention soon. Please look into this theory too, I am a sufferer and so is my husband. Me 13 years and fighting , he has been ill 8. Our 17 year old Pom has this too. Thanks again , over and over for looking into this. I have logs , my research and millions of specimans if you want them. Sandra
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Post by felixwillford on May 18, 2008 22:10:33 GMT -5
Summary of Raman spectroscopy carried out by Mark Darrah
Black specs Skin spectrum (lipid, protein, keratin) pluls hair and nail (extra keratin) peaks and a skeletal peak as well. One other unknown protein present
Black filament (coming out of clear crystoid) Skin spectrum (Protein and keratin but no lipid), plus possibly backbone
Clear filament (ribbon or cellulose like) Cellulose (possibly being made within body)
Human hair Hollowed out, found filaments within. Possibly the goo is gathering inside the hollowed hair, causing it to move? Some samples hair looked transparent.
Goo from around hair follicle Skin spectrum
Amber/beige crystal substance Skin spectrum
Multi colored material on surface of hexagon slab Organophosphorus (OP) based compounds or Acetates
Purple/blue shiney material on surface of hexagon slab 70% chance of being Tannin, plant polyphenol?
Cream hexagon slab Substance unknown
Glue/goo or solder substance between cream hexagons 70% chance of being Tannin, plant polyphenol?
Gold shiney hexagon slab Substance unknown
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