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Post by zabrubon on Sept 14, 2008 0:17:29 GMT -5
My broker informed me several days ago that he listened in on my phone converstation with a customer. He and I were in a meeting and he told me that he had a new system on google and could get all the information on who was looking at his new web site and that he could listen in on the phone conversations that came from that web site to me and my office. He told me that he listened to my phone converstation with a customer a few days earlier.
When I answer the phone and a client is connected from that web site wanting info on the condo's that the broker can listen in on the whole conversation.
I was so embarrassed. My broker told me some of the things I said and what the customer said. I was so so embarrassed. I told that customer some personal things about my life. You see she was going through hard times and so I wanted to put her at ease and I told her she could make it through this that I had been through blah blah blah.
And to think my broker boss heard the whole thing. Is he allowed to do that? It was his office and his phone system. But he did not tell me he would be monitoring and listening.
ChicagoBonnie
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Post by felixwillford on Sept 14, 2008 0:48:00 GMT -5
From what I understand, in most states it is ONLY legal to record a phone conversation as long as one of the "talkers" is aware.
Now, in your case it was not a recording.......... I realize that, but kind of similar.
Just thought I throw my 2 cents in!
So I would say it's is NOT Legal.
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Post by Jill on Sept 14, 2008 8:46:55 GMT -5
Wow! I feel for you Bonnie- and I also suspect that was not legal- but what can you do? Listening to the info on the video that was posted the other day- Leuren Moret- who confirmed that Google was moving to Israel- and that there are other 'hinky' events surrounding the company- I would say the spying has been going on for some time. JMO
Moret also mentioned the name of the pesticide being sprayed in California (and elsewhere) - Check Mate. Ironic because I traced one of my keyloggers/hackers (story for another day) to CheckM8 -
Must be their code name for the 'project'.
We already know that the phone companies are involved- so it's not a stretch. Then there is Microsoft- the Gates gang....
I try to be always aware that there are other ears and eyes that could be listening and watching my every move.
Strange times.
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Post by toni on Sept 14, 2008 9:53:03 GMT -5
Bonnie, I know what you mean, and yes those "kinds of eves dropping" by the broker or the DRE are part of the (job).
I remember my very first broker informing me that at any given time the DRE could be listening to me and a client, which it's usually for ethical conduct screening (redlining etc).
I can imagine how embarrassing that was. How awful.
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Post by godog on Sept 14, 2008 14:17:40 GMT -5
I just figger we're monitored all the time. I used to post at a ufo forum and one lady and I got to emailing at our regular emailboxes, and someone was intercepting our mail. She would send me one on like tuesday, I wouldn't get it till like thursday, but it would be slipped in the old mail, back with tuesday's emails, only it wasn't there on tuesday and someone hacked into her addresses and deleted a bunch of them. Just 2 middleage ladies talking about our strange experiences and someone was keeping tabs. She had some really disturbing information though. I quit talking to her. I also read, don't know if I believe this, that after a certain date, television sets were made where they could monitor the homes they were in. I guess we should assume bigbrother is always listening.
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Post by godsgrace on Sept 14, 2008 18:35:16 GMT -5
1984 is coming
ever wonder why everyone has to switch to digital cable by February?
because they have the ability to remotely view into our homes through the cable lines
sound impossible? well, who would think they could listen to us through google.
godsgrace
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Post by bannanny on Sept 14, 2008 20:37:45 GMT -5
I'm so sorry CB, that's downright disgusting, realtor or not I say. There should be alot of laws against any kind of monitoring others, but the ones monitoring are the ones either making the laws or they know exactly how to bypass them.
I've sent so many emails out about morgs including pix that I thought for sure I would get replies to, but noooooo. I wonder now if my emails have been intercepted along the way?
Big brother....... what a stupid name that is!
love ~~ bannanny
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Post by zabrubon on Sept 15, 2008 0:45:11 GMT -5
I was so disgusted and embarrassed that they listened in to my conversation. Wonder why he decided t tell me? Guess he was letting me know to be careful what I say. Don't know if I should be grateful or not. I guess I will be grateful. As far as people watching me through my TV, well that's not going to happen cause I gave my TV away last year. I can't believe it. One whole year without the tube. There seems to be nothing sacred any longer. Sometimes when I stop and use the restroom at McDonalds, or a gas station, movie theater, etc, I wonder if I am on camera. Sick world we live in anymore. Seems like people can't get enough. On a lighter note, I think I will have someone call my broker email site and play. Maybe we should have a script and we can have some real fun time. But type of script? Hum!
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Post by zabrubon on Sept 15, 2008 0:53:35 GMT -5
jjill that was very interesting. I suppose that is what he is using too. He told me he went to Israel in Feb/March of last year, maybe he heard about it then. I wish I had more info on it. I will be careful from now on what I say or not say. Yep you can bet on that. Too bad that he did this cause all he did was put me ill at ease on the phone. And I am good on the phones, but now, he has served to put a wrench in the system. Too bad for him. I will never be the same. I feel like U.S. is becoming a communistic country.
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Post by zabrubon on Sept 15, 2008 0:54:26 GMT -5
Kmarie, I agree this does not seem legal. Who would I call to find out?
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Post by zabrubon on Sept 15, 2008 0:56:06 GMT -5
Toni, i can't believe these people telling you that. Who do they think they are anyway and what is it they are trying to prove or learn by listening? And even if they heard something they did not like, what are they going to do about it?
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Post by toni on Sept 15, 2008 7:14:02 GMT -5
You know what Bonnie, I remember now (it wasn't they could listen in) it was DRE at any time could "call and pretend to be a client" to see if the realtor is practicing redlining. Thaaaat's what it was.
Maybe you can contact the DRE, NAR or even the Ethics Committee locally and express your concerns and feelings on that because that is invasive to say the least.
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Post by felixwillford on Sept 15, 2008 16:30:55 GMT -5
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Post by scrambo on Sept 15, 2008 19:21:22 GMT -5
Sorry you have had to suffer through that, Bonnie. However, I am wondering, by your boss informing you, he is off the hook, legally.
I think it is now standard practice for companies to monitor employees on all levels, computers, phones, trash, smoking, weight gain, medical records, private life,etc.
Interesting about Israli connection. Many officials high up in US govt. cary dualUS/Israli citizenship. I believe high security people are in these ranks, Chertoff, Homelandinsecurity, etc.
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Post by scrambo on Sept 15, 2008 19:30:46 GMT -5
By the way, not to be partisan, here, but my neighbor just told me an interesting story. He is a pro-life person, mainly due to an emotional event when he was in the service and his then girlfriend aborted a child without telling him. Well, he is peeved at some of the left's positions and wrote several kind of inflamatory E-mails to an Obama site. He said he used no swear words, but just informed them if they won, he would be flying his US flag at 1/2 mast for 4 years. 12 hours later his computer was hacked to trash. He has a good computer guy who figured out the mess and got the hacker's code. It is from the site he wrote to. Total computer rebuild necessary. Evidently the FBI has been notified. Guess they will wish they were McCain who can't even use a computer
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Post by lydski on Sept 15, 2008 21:35:37 GMT -5
Sorry you have had to suffer through that, Bonnie. However, I am wondering, by your boss informing you, he is off the hook, legally. . I was under the impression that you are to be informed at the beginning of a call, this call may be monitered, blah blah blah?
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Post by zabrubon on Sept 15, 2008 22:03:35 GMT -5
Scrambooooooooooo that was hilarious.
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Post by zabrubon on Sept 15, 2008 22:04:39 GMT -5
The part about McCain was hilarious not the hacking.
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Post by zabrubon on Sept 15, 2008 22:13:47 GMT -5
Kmarie, the video talked about using cell phones and short term memory loss and break down of the immunity system. Wow! I had no idea. Gotta get me an ear piece so I don't get a brain tumor. That's all I need more illness.
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Post by zabrubon on Sept 15, 2008 22:21:39 GMT -5
Toni, yep I agree with you I feel as thought is was an invasiion and he should have told me first, before he listened in on the conversation. I was very embarrassed. And to make matters worse, as though they could not be tuff enough for us Morgies, I had a letter in the mail today from Country wide home loans and they told me that an employee in the company had sold a list of loan information to a third party and I was one of the lucky ones to be on that list. Great, just great. They said they fired the guy but did not know the extent of the damage done. They said to report a fraud alert on my account. How is that? I want to sue that guy who ever he is or Countrywide. I am so upset. I feel scared at what is going on in this world. I feel naked and defensless. Wierd disases, horrible weather, wars and rumors of wars, Genetically modified foods, cell phones that cause tumores, professional institutions selling my private information. and the list goes on and on. I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE GOOD OLE DAYS OF CASH OR CHECK. Back to the subject, I think that my boss told me cause he felt bad for listening and maybe the other higher ups are listening and he wants me to be aware. A little late but still better to know than not know.(i think)
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