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Post by jeany on Apr 8, 2009 14:06:34 GMT -5
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Post by kammy on Apr 8, 2009 14:08:16 GMT -5
Hey, Jeany & Steve - I believe that there's a hidden marine agent to Morgellons... we need to be searching for this aspect. This Sun Animalcules (Actinosphaerium Heliozoans) is marine. Yes, I agree, Jeany, I'm not sure about the cyanobacteria aspect yet. My photos don't exactly match... but, then again there was this scientific report put out that we have this?? And, so far, my specimens were the only ones that shows this, and this was a brief time at around week 2 only in the culture, I might have taken a blue/green algae supplement around the time this was cultured, it's possible. I'm noticing Banny's photo in Reply 22 and 37, I need to bring her photos down. It's some gel that oozed out of my finger onto my scope base. I couldn't get it up so I decided to leave it to see what would happen. The growth occurred over a 2-3 month period. It's too long of a story to explain how I finally got it to lift from the base, but when I did... the gel remained. It had permeated into the base and the process began to repeat itself all over again. This is what it looks like today... Below is what started to grow from that "whales head" that created the cluster of spheres. I was told it could be sol gel...
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Post by jeany on Apr 8, 2009 14:30:48 GMT -5
Kammy, I do believe a relationship to water in the first place. Marine..I don't know. There could be a pattern to water and soil bacteria together with pesticides, herbicides and antibiotics. I think our water systems are contaminated with an unknown novel parasite...could be a form of crypto. Yes Cyanobacteria to explain the color? The different colors of the fibers could be due to the heavy metals in our bodies. I think the fibers are only a byproduct or "trash" of the original vector and our body trying to release them over pores and hairfollicles. Jeany
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Post by jeany on Apr 8, 2009 14:57:36 GMT -5
Kammy, Sol-Gel huh? Well this is used in Nanotechnologie. www.solgel.com/Read this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol-gelI heard before those Morgs fibers are out of polymer? If nanoparticles are in our shampoos and cosmetics and this is true noone probably knows what can happen. I'm almost thinking this Morgellons Thing is manmade. Somebody f***ing around with all sorts of organisms...mixing them together..to see whats happens..and it got lose?? Jeany
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Post by kammy on Apr 8, 2009 15:17:23 GMT -5
Yes, Jeany - I see the similiarities between the Sun Animalcules (Actinosphaerium Heliozoans) www.olympusmicro.com/primer/techniques/dic/dicgallery/actinosphaeriumsmall.htmlAND how the Morgellons fiber networks are created in the Petri Dish in their beginning stage: Quote from other thread: This is very interesting to me. On 3/26 when I photographed these below, I didn't pay them much attention. They looked like almost transparent centers of spider webs, I could see through them... they were flat, one dimensional - mostly connectors of various fiber points - they are various shapes and sizes, there's many layers of fiber networks below some of them, that you can see through their centers. It seems like however many certain 'points' that these shapes have - is how many fibers it sends out... or receives? These were 'created' as horizonital networks, the dish was tilted to get the verticle looking photos. Photographed 03_26_09 L Ear 900x Exp 2 Cultured 2_28_09 my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Posted/Lymebusters/3 29 09 L Ear/03_26_19 L Ear 600x Exp 2 - 2 28.JPEG[/img] my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Posted/Lymebusters/3 29 09 L Ear/03_26_20 L Ear 600x Exp 2 - 2 28.JPEG[/img] my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Posted/Lymebusters/3 29 09 L Ear/03_26_21 L Ear 600x Exp 2 - 2 28.JPEG[/img] my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Posted/Lymebusters/3 29 09 L Ear/03_26_23 L Ear 600x Exp 2 - 2 28.JPEG[/img]
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Post by kammy on Apr 8, 2009 15:21:44 GMT -5
We need some Heavy Metal data from anyone with Morgellons who's had this test run? Please post us your numbers?
We're suspecting heavy metal poisioning from watching Baraka's video on how this fiber creation process seems explosive and Mercury-like.
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Post by kammy on Apr 8, 2009 15:28:59 GMT -5
Well... for now, to go the nanoroute, this opens up too many variables. Usually, the GM modifying scientists take from nature to create their creations.
Let's try to identify what it is that they have possibly done? And... hope that this is just a natural process? And, then if we can't explain what's happened using what is known - we'll probably have to delve into the GM aspect of Crypto in Morgellons. Right now, we have identified known agents, let us see if we can figure out what they are doing first and then move forward?
Let's build a 'foundation' to work from - identify the knowns and their characteristics, first? And, of course, keep noting the nano aspects for future references.
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Post by jeany on Apr 8, 2009 15:29:59 GMT -5
Kammy, my thread copper at the MDR Site mentions heavy metals and accumulation in the body. Thread Detox too. I had this speculation according heavy metals, moving fibers, electrical charge due to the information that the fibers are metal coated. 'That's why I think BO's samples show mercury reaction. Jeany
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Post by kammy on Apr 8, 2009 16:08:45 GMT -5
MERCURY 1 If we look at Mercury and follow its links: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_(element)and Mercury poisoning: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_poisoning"Its zero oxidation state Hg0 exists as vapor or as liquid metal, its mercurous state Hg+ exists as inorganic salts, and its mercuric state Hg2+ may form either inorganic salts or organomercury compounds; the three groups vary in effects." Organomercuryen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organomercury"Important organomercury compounds are the methylmercury cation, CH3Hg+; ethylmercury cation, C2H5Hg+; dimethylmercury, (CH3)2Hg, diethyl mercury and merbromin ("Mercurochrome")." Ethylmercuryen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylmercury"Ethylmercury is one of the metabolites of thiomersal, which is used as a preservative in some vaccines. For this application, the ethylmercury salt sodium ethylmercuric thiosalicylate is used. Thiomersal (C9H9HgNaO2S) is made from the combination of ethyl mercuric chloride, thiosalicylic acid, sodium hydroxide and ethanol. Unlike methylmercury, ethylmercury has not been found to bioaccumulate.[1] The toxicity of ethylmercury is not well studied." We have known Mercury in our dental fillings, our fish or sea food, and vaccines. And, probably, from some sources that might not be evident.
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Post by kammy on Apr 8, 2009 20:36:39 GMT -5
ACCUMULATIVE AFFECT OF MERCURY For what it's scienifically worth - I have previously noted that the 'black specks' or galls visually look like they are carbon-based and resemble 'coal'. It appears that IF the 'black specks' are related to Mercury or Silver, that they are from an accumulative effect? We certainly appear to be internally mass-producing these specks, with no end in sight! What causes Mercury to accumulate in the body? Our fillings, dentist procedures that upset the existing fillings, the Mercury in our tuna and other sea foods? We can possibly eliminate vaccines because, the ethylmercury properties in vaccines is not supposed to cause an accumulative effect. This conclusion is based on the statement in Wikipedia in the previous post, whether, this is 'true' information would have to be researched further? We're aware the previous damage to society that has been done in the name of vaccination? Who is to say that Morgellons is NOT another vaccine-related illness, at this point? Vaccines should NOT be completely discounted as the source just because Wikipedia says so. Let us move on then, looking for what these specks might be based on by what we know about our symptoms and from Baraka's video that showed how this 'speck/gall' aspect is born? Also, we saw the 'spider web' photo above of the hollow, one dimensional plane, hollow cell - as if it were being created like a sheet of paper on a flat plane? In later photos, we see where these hollow, empty cells have become the 'black specks'. A second way that the 'black specks' are born. Methylmercury does bioaccumulate, let's look at it: Methylmercuryen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylmercury"It is a bioaccumulative environmental toxicant." Sources of methylmercury:"In the past times, methylmercury was produced directly and indirectly as part of several industrial processes such as the manufacture of acetaldehyde." Acetaldehydeen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetaldehyde"In the chemical industry, acetaldehyde is used as an intermediate in the production of acetic acid, certain esters, and a number of other chemicals. The hydration of acetylene, catalyzed by mercury salts gives ethenol, which tautomerizes to acetaldehyde. This process was conducted on an industrial scale prior to the Wacker process." Wacker processen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wacker_process"The same basic reaction is currently used to produce aldehydes and ketones from a number of alkenes with the Monsanto process for producing acetic acid. This chemical reaction, a German invention, was the first organometallic and organopalladium reaction applied on an industrial scale. The Wacker process is similar to hydroformylation, which is also an industrial process and also leads to aldehyde compounds. The differences are that hydroformylation promotes chain extension, and uses a rhodium-based catalyst system. The Wacker process is an example of homogeneous catalysis. The palladium complex with ethylene is reminiscent of Zeise's salt, K[PtCl3(C2H4)] which is a heterogeneous catalyst." Ethyleneen.wikipedia.org/wiki/EthyleneEthylene polymerizes to produce polyethylene, also called polyethene or polythene, the world's most widely-used plastic. Major polyethylene product groups are low density polyethylene, high density polyethylene, polyethylene copolymers, as well as ethylene-propylene co- & terpolymers.[9] How did I get from Mercury to Monsanto to Petroleum to Polymer Plastic?
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Post by bannanny on Apr 8, 2009 20:51:24 GMT -5
wow! Bannanny! Your photos are a little further along in time than mine are. I wish I could see that 2nd one... then again, maybe I don't? I thought it odd that me and another girl BOTH had that 'whales head' shaped fiber?... I find mine and hers here in a minute to show you. Dayum!... (as we say down South)... I didn't have any idea that it was going to turn into something like that!... but, I don't know why that surprises me? Banny! Guess what? Someone put jellyfish sting ointment on my lesions and right before our eyes they started closing up, in the matter of minutes, by the next day, they were almost healed, 4 month old lesions that would not heal! I had one of those "C-shaped" parasites that was latched on just inside my ear and the ointment made that thing turn loose immediately, it came out whole, I still have it preserved. Which second photo did you want to see again kammy? Your jelly fish ointment sounds like it definitely does somethin eh? I don't have lesions tho... I wonder what would happen if I just rubbed the stuff all over me head to toe? This is what you could see of the thing under bottom light... I figure that's why we can't see half of this sh*t!! The center sphere could be another form of Crypto, there's 7 species, I need to look to see if any resemble a jellyfish? That is strange, Banny... I have one growing too... I'll look soon and see if the same thing is happening... how long into its growth before it started morphing into this? The morphing (of what you call a whale's head) occurred within a very short period of time. I can't remember how much time had passed exactly, I just kept taking pix of it. On sol-gel... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol-gelwww.sol-gel.com/MainPage.aspx?id=1www.solgel.com/articles/June00/phalip/phalippou.htmA pic of mine that matches yours closely jeany of the actino...
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Post by bannanny on Apr 8, 2009 20:54:10 GMT -5
The more I read about this tho, I don't think what grew on my scope base was from Cryptosporidium. I do know it was definitely produced by the gel that oozes out of me (like I said) which is what I'm after, as far as identifying. But I'm not seeing how Crypto could manifest in that way. Am I missing something? Also, the symptoms I found for Crypto are as follows... The various symptoms of cryptosporidiosis differ greatly between immunocompetent and immunocompromised individuals. In immunocompetent patients, cryptosporidiosis is an acute, yet self-limiting diarrheal illness (1-2 week duration), and symptoms include (Juranek, 1995): Frequent, watery diarrhea Nausea Vomiting Abdominal cramps Low-grade fever For immunocompromised persons, the illness is much more severe (Juranek, 1995): Debilitating, cholera-like diarrhea (up to 20 liters/day) Severe abdominal cramps Malaise Low-grade fever Weight loss Anorexia So I don't see it, unless you're talkin about a species of Crypto different from the "parvum?" I'm gonna put a few of the pix here again in sequence of growth on my scope base from the gel that oozed from my finger. Hopefully, they'll all be on one page so you can view them easier... The small pic above is of the gel when it landed on the base of my scope out of my finger. It took off from there... A view of it at 10X... When that growth was finally lifted from the base, the gel blob remained permeated into it and the process began to repeat itself all over again. This is what it looks like today... same growth, different pattern... Here's a video of the gel right after it had oozed from my finger. I tried to scrape it off at first, but it attached itself to the edge of the tape. You can see how hard it was for me to pull away from it. You can also see the particles forming into tubes from within the gel itself. At this point is where I left it on the base to see what would happen (which you saw in the pics above.) I still have the scope (but won't use it cuz I get shocked whenever I put my hands towards it.) I've been trying to find someone I can send it to for study, but I never get any replies... go figure! hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by kammy on Apr 8, 2009 21:30:47 GMT -5
TY, K -
I see "Ethel" our food friend is here? Amazing that I got there from researching Mercury? And, acidic acid - that's in everything, isn't it? Carbonated drinks?
Hi Bananny,
I was wanting to see the 'Whale Head' and the 'Jellyfish' ones with more than 60x magnification.
The object behind the 'Whale Head' in the above photo - is this more of the crystal goo stuff?
Yes, we're not sure yet which species of Crypto is involved in the few cultures that have been noted. We're hoping that more people will culture their Morgellons debris or biofilms in Petri Dishes and take photos so we can do more comparing?
I'm trying to 'build' the 13 species chart on Page 1, that's still incomplete. Plus, these species have sub-sets and we can't forget about how much this 'critter' has been genetically modified and even used as a biowarfare agent and starting to cross phylums. So, there's no telling what the possibilites are, so far, we're seeing approximately the same thing in most people, except you - Banny... (*smile). You need to grow some of your 'goo' in a dish... so we can compare. But, the Whale Head fiber... oh yeah, I was going to show you the other ones... let me post those?
Your crystal 'goo' video reminds me of some of those tug-of-war battles I've had with lesions in which they usually win.
Yes, Bannanny, The Jellyfish Ointment is definitely good for lesions, and external parasite removal - what symptoms are you having?
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Post by kammy on Apr 8, 2009 21:38:50 GMT -5
Your 'ground' wire is probably loose on your microscope, Bannanny - get someone who's mechanical to look at it, it's probably just a simple, little solder job or a loose connection.
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Post by kammy on Apr 8, 2009 22:09:55 GMT -5
You know I've thought for some time that the lesions on our skins look just like those black spots we see on our fruits and vegetables? I'm a tomato or a potato, I can't decide?
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Post by kammy on Apr 8, 2009 22:27:54 GMT -5
SIGNATURE MORGELLON FIBER/TROPHOZITE Here's Bannanny's: Here is 'SB's' @ 2 weeks growth, "Baby Whale Head" 450x my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/SB Photos/SB/Photos/04_03_42.JPEG[/img] Kammy's @ 3 weeks growth "Whale Head" 450x my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/SB Photos/SB/Photos/03_29_70.JPEG[/img]
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Post by kammy on Apr 8, 2009 23:36:57 GMT -5
Baraka Obam has been busy at work, creating us another video on how Morgellons Forms:
He calls this one: "MORGELLONS FORMING" www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPodyogcOzgQuote from Baraka below: "You can see you really have to hurry, there was alot of them formed already when I put the slide on, then I had to search for some that had not got the message yet. You can see how quick they move and spread, the end of the video clip was trying to change the scope magnification, it does not work with this camera. I should just have gone all over the slide to show you how much of this stuff grew, IN LESS THAN 2 MINUTES> It takes alot of work to catch this, many slides and a bit of time, it does not always react, somthing is not perfect. This one was pretty good. Find out what this fast mover is and cure the world!!!!" I asked him if he had added anything metalic to his slide, this is his answer:"Kammy there is NOTHING ADDED to this slide, NOTHING except the blood and goo from a person that this malady is trying to kill."
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Post by bannanny on Apr 9, 2009 0:48:50 GMT -5
What exactly did he put on that slide, do you know? Pretty interesting... it looked like what I see forming by indentations sometimes in the trash bag. Nevermind... too tired to explain right now!
I don't have those samples anymore kammy. I threw all my samples out a good year or so ago once I realized this stuff can spread thru anything and everything. I'm in such a contaminated environment anyway (that includes me of course) that I can get a sample of just about anything morgellons at any given time.
It's not a wire on my scope that's the problem... the electricity is what I feel from the growth that's still on the base. I can't get it off and I get the same electrical sensations off of it that I feel in my own body. It's one of my main symptoms. I have another scope but I haven't set it up yet for the simple reason that I'm not ready to. When the gel is oozing outta my hands and feet, it makes it difficult to move anything around. I clear it up enough to type for a while and then have to stop and get it to ease up again before I can go on. It's a real pain in the a*s. Anyway, with everything that's sprouting up on the board here tho lately, I'll probably get back to the scope stuff sooner than later.
When the gel comes out of my feet, it dries on the souls of my crocks into either yellowish crusty pods full of sharp black fibers or an amber paste and has even turned into a green slime ball before too. I do have all of those samples saved and I'm beginning to expell the stuff again now. So like I said, I'll more than likely get my new scope up soon.
I don't know what you mean by you're gettin the same stuff from everyone except me? What stuff are you talkin about? I've always matched up with most everyone here who posts pictures and I've been on this board for 5 yrs.
My symptoms? Just about every symptom there is with morgs unfortunately. Right now I'm dealing with alot of vibrations in my head, hands, legs and feet, intense electrical sensations, fiberglass feeling all over me, fibers flyin and the oozing gel to name a few. I just went into this freakin stage again in the past week. It comes and goes about once every month or two anymore, lasting anywhere from 1-2 weeks. I'm one of those real weirdos kammy... I "see" alot of things you don't usually see too easily ya know? I think we talked about some of it on your threads over on the Lyme board. I was the one with the Pepper Trees if that rings a bell?
Anyway... my eyes are closin and I'm feelin goopy so I'll talk atcha later. Keep up the good work girl!
P.S. You'll have to explain to me how to do the petri dish thing and what I'll need to have ok? I don't like messin with it all that much tho cuz like I said, this place is contaminated enough and I already feel it everywhere and on everything. I don't really even know if I'd wanna deliberately grow anymore of the sh*t!
hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by kammy on Apr 9, 2009 8:44:22 GMT -5
I just find it interesting that all of us have a similiar-looking looped 'fiber', or whatever it is? AND, Banny's turned into a 'jellyfish'?!
I think if we culture it in the future, we should keep an eye on it. My and SB's specimens are still growing... I haven't checked my dish in 2 weeks now... I'm afraid to look. lol
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Post by kammy on Apr 9, 2009 8:46:21 GMT -5
Wasn't Baraka's video amazing? He says it's just his blood and goo on the slide, that any of us can replicate what he did in his video.
I'm going to get his instructions on how he did it. I need to check with him, first.
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