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Post by bannanny on Apr 9, 2009 14:52:38 GMT -5
Sorry, I meant page 4 where Ruth posted her pics...
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Post by kammy on Apr 9, 2009 16:24:21 GMT -5
Yeah, Steve, that Macrophage photo slide looks JUST LIKE... what's happening in Baraka's videos! Look at the 'silver' balls laying around, too? And, they have auras that I've noted and rings like Saturn. Remember, I took one that look like Saturn? Let me get big photo in here... Here's a bigger photo link: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Macrophage.jpgSure, Banny, I'd be glad to look!
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Post by stevefrey on Apr 9, 2009 16:46:10 GMT -5
I know what your saying Kammy, the moment I saw a pic of one of those things I said, "that looks like a sponge", then I about fell out of my chair when I read some of the details about them, I'm not exaggerating either, they fit the description of a sponge to a tee even down to the secretion of cytokines and then right before I posted I thought I would take a shot in the dark and see if the sponge was associated with "interleukin-1" and sure enough it is. who am I to suggest the idea that Medical Science has got it all wrong here? but that sure looks like whats going on.
Have you seen the animated videos yet? They're cool.
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Post by kammy on Apr 9, 2009 17:43:14 GMT -5
I know what your saying Kammy, the moment I saw a pic of one of those things I said, "that looks like a sponge", then I about fell out of my chair when I read some of the details about them, I'm not exaggerating either, they fit the description of a sponge to a tee even down to the secretion of cytokines and then right before I posted I thought I would take a shot in the dark and see if the sponge was associated with "interleukin-1" and sure enough it is. who am I to suggest the idea that Medical Science has got it all wrong here? but that sure looks like whats going on. Have you seen the animated videos yet? They're cool. You guys realize that if we can figure out what's at work here, we can then figure out how to stop it? That's my mission here - I want to figure out how to stop whatever this is - life cycle. Oh, I found a cure a minute ago for chloracne... dioxin bioaccumulation... just in case this is what's happening. I'll present it shortly - except - I don't know if they still make this product? No, Steve what animated videos?
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Post by kammy on Apr 9, 2009 17:58:23 GMT -5
Chloracne 2 Let's look at this again: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChloracneEtiology and progressionThe inflammatory processes lead to the formation of keratinous plugs in skin pores, forming yellowish cysts and dark pustules. The associated pus is usually tennis ball colored. The skin lesions occur mainly in the face, but in more severe cases they involve the shoulders and chest, the back, and the abdomen. In advanced cases, the lesions appear also on the arms, thighs, legs, hands and feet. TreatmentOnce chloracne has been identified, the primary action is to remove the patient and all other individuals from the source of contamination. Further treatment is symptomatic. Severe or persistent lesions may be treated with oral antibiotics or isotretinoin. However, chloracne may be highly resistant to any treatment. The course of the disease is highly variable. In some cases the lesions may resolve within two years or so; however, in other cases the lesions may be effectively permanent (mean duration of lesions in one 1984 study was 26 years, with some workers remaining disfigured over three decades after exposure).[3] Recent research by groups at University of Cincinnati School of Medicine in Ohio and the University of Western Australia indicated that PCB poisoning, including chloracne symptoms, can be treated with fat substitute olestra. [4]
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Post by kammy on Apr 9, 2009 18:10:12 GMT -5
[/img][/center] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olestra"Olestra (also known by its brand name Olean) is a fat substitute that adds no fat, calories, or cholesterol to products. It has been used in the preparation of traditionally high-fat foods such as potato chips, thereby lowering or eliminating their fat content. In 1999, researchers discovered that Olestra helps facilitate the removal of dioxins from the body, as it apparently binds to dioxins in a manner similar to that of normal fats. This unexpected side effect may make the substance useful in treating victims of dioxin poisoning."Also see the Fat Substitute Links below: Fat substitutes en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Fat_substitutesThe following 5 pages are in this category, out of 5 total. This list may not reflect recent changes (learn more). * Fat substitute C Caprenin O Olestra S Simplesse Z Z-Trim Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Fat_substitutes"
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Post by kammy on Apr 9, 2009 18:32:25 GMT -5
Ok, I don't want to hear it. Yeah, I had a few of those potato chips, and they were bad! I don't even know if they managed to stay in business?
HOWEVER, at this point... we don't know that we're not somehow dioxioned poisoned and that's what's causing us to explode with specks and debris - like in Baraka's video? And, don't tell me that you haven't tried some more bizarre treatments than eating bad potato chips?
Did you understand why I asked if the women had birthed children. Because, this allows women the opportunity to get into their fat reserves and their dioxin levels lowered by unfortunately, passing the chemical along to their fetus. Men have low capabilites to get the dioxin out of their bodies.
That to go through Dioxin detox is very, very difficult and makes you sicker. There's a video out there on it... I'll try to find it.
If this is as simple as eating a bad potato chip and/or possibly one of the fat substitues, until we can get 'official' word - that this IS what's actually happened, then - it seems that we need to 'test' this?
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Post by stevefrey on Apr 9, 2009 18:34:14 GMT -5
BingoKammy you just may have made great discovery here, that is if I am right about the sponge, which I am so I say lets give it a try! www.eurochlor.org/upload/documents/document68.pdfSo just maybe Chloracne is actually caused by the sponge and if Olestra treats Chloracne then it just might treat morgellons.
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Post by kammy on Apr 9, 2009 18:43:23 GMT -5
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Post by stevefrey on Apr 9, 2009 18:48:08 GMT -5
The last couple of days I've had this compelling feeling that we needed to work together on this Kammy, like I told you in my message to you earlier, all day yesterday I thought about how I was going to try and get us on the same page and benefit from combining our efforts, now I think I understand why I've been feeling this way. Intuition maybe, or something even more powerful.
Wow this is weird, but I'm feeling pretty damn good about it, let's cross our fingers.
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Post by kammy on Apr 9, 2009 18:59:36 GMT -5
I hope so, Steve. I don't mind going out on a limb and being wrong. I'm trying to compile as much information that comes my way and get from A to Z and give the people something they can use that's practical and cost effective that they can use TODAY to try and help them, without bringing harm.
I'm suffering, I know other people are too. We can't wait on the CDC... you see how fast this can explode and grow... every day counts!
I think we need to keep digging and see what's going on here? I've just scratched the surface, today.
And, I'm just the researcher and communicator here - this is coming from Baraka. His 38 years of hell of living with this! He was 18 when he got this, can you imagine? He says, he knows where this came from, exactly when he got it, and sees the same thing with the other veterans at the hospitals!
We can see that chloracne is contagious by inhalation, direct skin contact and ingestion. And, what about sexually transmitted? That hasn't even been addressed. Aren't these same characteristics believed to be true about Morgellons?
Who's to say that this hasn't been around us since the Vietnam War, or prior... we can see how easily our particles can come off our bodies and go possibly anywhere or affect others around us - giving this to them? (I say this from personal experience.) Who's to say, that we didn't get ours the same way?
We need to stop and look a minute...
Now, does anyone know if they still make those potato chips, or "Olean"? ;D
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Post by stevefrey on Apr 9, 2009 19:06:27 GMT -5
I'm as far out on a limb as I could get Kammy and at the risk of sounding egotistical, I know in my heart, my soul, and my mind that I am not wrong about the sponge. I have never even heard of Chloracne but from the description you posted it sounds to me like another name for morgellons.
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Post by kammy on Apr 10, 2009 1:51:00 GMT -5
Fat Substitutes To explain - whatever toxins have bioaccumulated in our Morgellons bodies cannot be eliminated fast enough because it is more than likely related to, or similiar to dioxin, herbicides, or pesticides. Dioxin and these other similiar chemicals are stored in our fat cells, our body holds what's inside our fat cells for survival. To do traditional dioxin detox methods is very painful and can put these chemicals into our liver, kidneys, lungs, etc., all at the same time - places we don't want them to go. Men have less fat cells than women and hold onto more of these chemicals than women. What the olestra does is pull them out of our intestines into the fat substitute and eliminates it through the bowels. And, it does this faster than traditional detox methods. Even though you might have some gastro-intestinal issues with the olestra, this should be less than with a different type of detox. What we're thinking is that the chemical reaction that is happening in Baraka's videos can be eliminated or less - with this fat substitute detox happening. Meaning that our lesions could cease over time and/or slow down production of the 'specks/seeds/fibers' etc. And since Morgellons resembles chloracne, we are lead to believe that this might work. Theoretically, this should work to our advantage. Our diets need to consist of less fat. Here are some other fat substitutes: Fat substitute - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaSpecific fat substitutes Olestra Simplesse Caprenin Cellulose[citation needed] Z-Trim Oatrim-10 Trailblazer pectin Read what olestra does again: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olestra
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Post by kammy on Apr 10, 2009 20:57:09 GMT -5
The Morgellons Pathogen Has Been Indentified In the Dish I have semi-isolated the pathogen in the Petri Dish that appears to be the one that is producing the fibers and the carbon-like 'black speck' connectors or the Morgellons pathogen. I believe, this is the MAIN Morgellons fiber/speck pathogen that is 'wrapping itself' around or incorporating itself into the other pathogens. When the other pathogens touch or come into contact with this one, they incorporate and seemingly become a vector for the Morgellons pathogen to grow and spread. There is another one that could be a 'sister', not sure at this time. It has a very fuzzy, white, a very fine 'spun cottony' look, it's a dense-fluffy; like a very fine cotton ball growth - it's growth is double/triple in size than any other growth in the dish. It's growth (cultured on 2/28/09) at approximately 6 weeks is not in a circular pattern, it is in a 'speading' or random pattern. I would have to look at earlier digital photographs of it in its infancy to be able to report how it first appeared. I will find a way to show you the two comparative 'real life' photographs of the dish, (wonder if my camera card works?) There are various different 'other' pathogens around this Morgellons one, and from watching the way it operates, it appears that whatever is in our bodies or the dish, the Morgellons one - reaches out to and transmitts its 'chemistry' to them. Each pathogen in the body or dish - then becomes infected with Morgellons to become what is known as our 'individual' Morgellons. (That is probably why we're all having different physical manifestations in what is showing up in our symptoms.) You have seen several photographs of mine where there have been 'fuzzy' white, 'hairy-looking' objects that are reaching out to 'touch' other things? I am positive, this is how the Morgellons pathogen operates. I have left the Petri Dish undisturbed. I have numerous growths that are side by side, apart, and some on top of each other in the dish. After I digitally photograph the dish again, I am going to take a small section of it and isolate it by itself in a new, clean Petri Dish. After that, I will take some more lesion debris and start a new experiment, in which I will 'map' the specks - so that I can be able to tell you which one of these specks that is coming out of our bodies is precisely the Morgellons speck. I'm saying that the Morgellons pathogen is semi-isolated because it is undisturbed but touching other pathogens in the dish. It is next to the edge of the dish and approximately half the size of a .50 cent coin, this is a large enough area to obtain a "pure" specimen from, I believe. It will soon be by itself to study in isolation. I am shooting down into a mass of cotton-like material, that is why these photos appear dark. I will try using other lighting techniques to get better photos. Here is what the semi-ISOLATED Morgellons pathogen looks like microscopically at 100x, I am not cropping these photos: L Ear debris cultured 2-28-09, @ 100x 6 weeks growth, photographed on 4/10/09, Photo 1: my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Posted/Lymebusters/M Path/04_10_2.JPEG [/img] L Ear debris cultured 2-28-09, @ 100x 6 weeks growth, photographed on 4/10/09, Photo 2: my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Posted/Lymebusters/M Path/04_10_5.JPEG[/img] L Ear debris cultured 2-28-09, @ 100x 6 weeks growth, photographed on 4/10/09, Photo 3: my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Posted/Lymebusters/M Path/04_10_6.JPEG[/img][/center]
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Post by kammy on Apr 11, 2009 5:26:37 GMT -5
TY, K! I suppose I could set something like that up? It looks like it's trying to climb out of the dish, anyway... lol Just thinking out loud here. I usually turn the dishes upside down with the lids on them when I culture something... this allows the water in the agar to come out and create the greenhouse effect... And, if I leave the lid off for too long - it'll dry out the agar.... I'll have to read up on this one, K... to see what a good lab test is for 'contagiousness', how biologists preform this test? And, I'm afraid of mice... lol It probably wouldn't take it long enough to dry out I can see the fibers move from me breathing on them, when I'm at the microscope. I have a real greenhouse that I could do the experiment in... which is going to get real hot soon. I'm thinking it might want to be in an environment where no air is blowing on the fibers to move them?
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Post by kammy on Apr 11, 2009 5:40:10 GMT -5
Hey K.,
Wasn't Baraka's experiment fascinating? He says it works sometimes and sometimes, it doesn't and he's not sure why that is.
Figuring out what causes this reaction to happen might be a key in knowing how to manage our Morgellons to keep from having outbreaks of new lesions or fiber growth?
I think one of the other gals is going to re-create it and see if she gets the same results?
You know what I noticed was that white/chalk background in his video and wondered where that came from? Well... I'm starting to notice that a lot of objects in my dish are starting to turn that same 'calcium white' color. Interesting, huh?
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Post by kammy on Apr 11, 2009 5:56:48 GMT -5
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Post by kammy on Apr 11, 2009 6:13:07 GMT -5
Is there a dull moment on this thread? As some of you know that have viewed my Biology slide shows on YouTube that I am out there asking for help from the biology community. I found this anonomous message in my YouTube Mail box... I find it very intriguing. You know me... I'm going to hunt down these leads to see what's going on?... If you want the password to go to this site, PM me: "Dear friend I have seen your videos and wanted to let you know where you might find some additional insight. Please go to the following website, choose a user name and password , then go to the search bar and type in the words silent superbug. Thank you I pray that this finds you well and that it helps. Please knwo that you are not alone Please knwo that as men meddle with nature and what God has made that was good, they meddle with us. Stick to alkaline diet, avoid any and all genetically modified food, avoid shots, avoid high fructose corn syrup, avoid lunchmeats! (they are sprayed with viral phages) this has been introduced in recent years and many still are not aware of it. Unfortunately. Please knwo that there have been 41 deaths among mircrobiologists in recent years perhaps they held answers. Do not be discouraged. Please feel free to see the site I am sharing with you and stay tuned as there will be further reports posted there. Thank you This will not cost you anything to get in or join or anything like that.. simply go to www.pyrabang.com Then you will see a box where it says invitation code or invitation or something like that right there in the same box..it is called the ten second sign up box, put the word (PM me for the Password) in there, this is how you get in. Best to you and yours"
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Post by kammy on Apr 11, 2009 6:26:05 GMT -5
Well... I don't know if they are informed about what's going on, or not, they gave good advice.
This parabang site is a MLM, but not really, it can be free - I didn't go in. The password they gave is probably thier user name... which I don't care to pass around.
I can research 'silent superbug'... the old-fashioned way...
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Post by kammy on Apr 11, 2009 6:33:56 GMT -5
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