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Post by morgellonsmoe1 on Apr 14, 2009 12:57:32 GMT -5
Hi gang :
I have to get at least all my top teeth pulled then get dentures . Tetracycline has given me my life back but it cost my teeth and they are beyond help.
Only if you have had a tooth pulled while having Morgellons please tell me of any effects did your gums wind up a morgie nest ? what rinses helped you if any while gumms were healing? I do not wish to hear any theories Only from people who have had any teeth extracted while infected with morgellons Thanks cause I am really concerned but the pain is too much too keep these bad teeth anymore Thanks Moe
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Post by friskers on Apr 14, 2009 14:10:53 GMT -5
Moe Im really sorry to hear this about your teeth. I hope some others can help you out on this!
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Post by Niels on Apr 14, 2009 14:30:49 GMT -5
can you explain how the tetracycline cost you your teeth? my understanding is that it causes yellowing of teeth in juveniles taking it while growing, but that it's ok for adults. is this incorrect, and there are also adult effects? have you considered going to the healthfood store and swishing your mouth with myrrh tincture or get a myrrh/neem based mouthwash? it was old school medicine to dip cloth/cotton in clove oil and insert into tooth-sockets. e.g. www.dentistry.com/ubb/Forum12/HTML/000141.html(cf clove oil treatment still being performed today) be careful w/ clove oil however, it can make you feel a little dizzy or nauseous if ingested as well as transdermally. some people like this feeling, which is why they have clove-oil soaked tobacco cigarettes in indonesia (or perhaps the clove&tobacco cigs prevent parasitic diseases or just keep insects away :-) ).
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Post by rhorn2006 on Apr 14, 2009 14:47:25 GMT -5
Hi gang : I have to get at least all my top teeth pulled then get dentures . Tetracycline has given me my life back but it cost my teeth and they are beyond help. Only if you have had a tooth pulled while having Morgellons please tell me of any effects did your gums wind up a morgie nest ? what rinses helped you if any while gumms were healing? I do not wish to hear any theories Only from people who have had any teeth extracted while infected with morgellons Thanks cause I am really concerned but the pain is too much too keep these bad teeth anymore Thanks Moe If im not mistaken "but I could always be wrong" the only effect Tetracycline has on teeth is a permanent "greenish-gray" discoloration effect,,, but only in young children... It may not be the Tetracycline causing your teeth to go bad... I had a full set of healthy teeth in 2002,, got morgellons in 2003,, had two jaw teeth break off at the gum line and had to be dug out in 2004,, lost another jaw tooth since then,,, and "all" of the rest of my teeth have those little dark holes in the sides (tooth decay) and all are splitting and cracking,,,,,, that's pretty much a morgellons thing!!
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Post by mrc on Apr 14, 2009 15:22:38 GMT -5
I know you stated you don't want to hear thoeries so I'll just state facts, both Meth users and Morgellons sufferers encounter massive tooth loss, if you do a search in Google on Meth users and teeth the photo's are terrible. There is a connection between us, the lesions, the "meth" or "crank" bugs, the tooth loss. We are not meth users of course, but we suffer from the same massive chemical overload. I am not a doctor, but I have never heard of tetracycline causing tooth loss just the yellowing (as did happen to me as child). I am so sorry moe, I think NAC can be of some benefit to you in this area. Please forgive me.
A quote:
Tooth loss is common in chronic meth users because meth causes a dry mouth, and acid flourishes in a dry mouth, leading to tooth decay
Same thing my dentist told me, it's bacteria in the mouth that cause tooth decay, but not them directly, the acid's they secrete.
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Post by ibzahp on Apr 14, 2009 18:28:22 GMT -5
Hey there Moe. I did have to have my teeth pulled due to Morgellons and Neurontin given to me for back pain. For the most part it was not a problem. And I have had a lot of difficult symptoms. There is a chlorhexidine rinse that dentists prescribe to toughen up the gums. It has similar properties (same chemical) as hibiclens but formulated for the mouth. It tastes just awful but really does help and soothe the area. A tea bag can be placed on sore areas to draw out infection . Sea salt can be used to rinse and soothe. And any dentist worth his salt will give you antibiotics. So I do hope that helps and I hope it goes easy for you too! ibzahp
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Post by morgellonsmoe1 on Apr 15, 2009 17:33:30 GMT -5
Well I guess the teeth falling apart With every passing day is Morgellons . I look like a jack-o-lantern and my teeth turned a dark bluish blackish color like I ate ashes .
Thanks for the rinse I'll ask My oral surgeon for that how long did it take to heal up? and did the morgellons start nesting where you got teeth pulled ? they seem to like areas of the body that have been injured thanks Moe
PS Forth Day No ciggaretts !! My doc put me on Chantex Its great only took me two weeks to quit You smoke while your on the Chantex and you just do not want to 4 days after the quit day you pick
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Post by morgellonsmoe1 on Apr 17, 2009 17:26:57 GMT -5
OK Gang :
I went to the oral surgeon today all my top teeth have to come out .
I am getting top dentures made Monday then my surgery will be scheduled . I'm very scared so please pray cause I am alone and don't come out of the anesthesia very well .
My eyes were checked and I need stronger glasses .
Barb I am praying for you get well soon and may God be very close to you though this time Ill update Monday hope it heals up fast and proper for us both Barb ; ) Moe
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Post by toni on Apr 17, 2009 18:34:46 GMT -5
Moe,
I'm praying for you and I hope all goes perfectly well.
This is ashame you're having ALL this to have to go though.
Take care, and think of how pretty those new teethies will be! ;D
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Post by tommy02141 on Apr 18, 2009 5:34:44 GMT -5
Moe I am praying for you. Don't worry the lord has a plan for you. Always remember our life's here on earth are only a test to see who is worthy and who is not. Teeth are not important but our faith in god and love for each other is. God bless you my friend tommy
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Post by friskers on Apr 18, 2009 21:50:29 GMT -5
Good luck Moe , you have my prayers too. im so sorry your losing your teeth. Does the dentist have any clue why this had happened to you besides the morgellons?
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Post by ibzahp on Apr 18, 2009 22:09:35 GMT -5
I am thinking of you. It took me about a week to really recover my energy and the like. I lucked out with the morgellons in that I haven't had big problems w/my mouth (knock on wood). I think that the antibiotics and the the rinse i mentioned really helped. Blessings, ibzahp
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Post by klossnet on Apr 19, 2009 10:29:16 GMT -5
Hi,
I'm going to have the same procedure performed in three weeks. The pain is just too much for me handle. My current health condition is declining at a pretty fast rate. It has never been this bad. I must get releif soon or I will be unable to work and will have to apply for Social Security Disability.
Since I first became aware of morgellons diseaes, five years ago, I've had four operations to repair both of my wrists which I broke having fallen down. That's all that happened. My orthapedic sugeron told me this should not have happened, and my primary care doctor did not, and does not, believe that this is the result of fall.
If you can email me and let me know exactly what you need I'll be happy to do what I can.
This reply must be a mess as I can't even think straight. Anyway, I gotta go. More info. later.
Have you heard of any other Morgies breaking bones.
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Post by morgellonsmoe1 on Apr 25, 2009 9:29:29 GMT -5
Hi Gang Thanks for everyones support Got my top dentures done last Friday and they'll be delivered to the surgeon in time for my surgery This Friday May 1 at 930am I asked him for that rinse , I will ask my Sunday school class for help while recovering cause I am alone and don't know how much Ill be needing help with so please continue praying ? Had to get new glasses Yesterday So new skin would be great !!ya know? ADDED ....I will be 2 weeks with NO smokes on Sunday and I smoked 2 packs a day .. the doc gave me a script for Chantix and I didn't make my 1st quit date but kept going and after a few days i didn't want a cigarette. I have 40 bucks in my mad money account its easier to hold money when cigarettes don't take it
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Post by morgellonsmoe1 on Apr 25, 2009 9:41:41 GMT -5
klossnet? when is your procedure? May God bless and help you on your journey too Moe
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Post by junknira on Apr 26, 2009 5:18:02 GMT -5
I'm sorry, I wish I had answers, I don't. I can only say that i can relate, i just had another tooth pulled two weeks ago, and will have to have another pulled soon. They seem to be hurting more and more, sometimes i cannot bear the pain, or the thought of losing all of them. the falling too! i already have a bad neck and back..feel like such a dolt when i faceplant! might have to try the Chantix..tho i would like to know how many more chemicals it will add to the mix.
i cannot pray for you, as i am an atheist...but i will send good vibes...
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Post by morgellonsmoe1 on May 1, 2009 19:16:21 GMT -5
Ok gang : The surgery was great . I have my new dentures in and the whole ordeal was not as bad as I thought it would be .. thanks so much to all. who prayed If your an atheist its OK for today cause ,Jesus believes in you and loves you so deeply that he spread His arms and died for you ! So ask Him to reveal himself to you so when you meet him you'll know each other there are no "good vibes" that can top that! The Bible says while we were still sinners Christ died for us and you cant top that ! with a new smile Moe
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Post by toni on May 1, 2009 19:35:11 GMT -5
Moe, I'm sincerely VERY happy for you, and I am glad that whole thing wasn't as bad as you thought it might be.
I'm sure your new pearlies look beautiful! ;D
You'll have to get a pic and smile for us!
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Post by friskers on May 1, 2009 20:52:23 GMT -5
Great news MO! Smile pretty now ;D I want to see your new teeth too LOL
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Post by ANTHILL on May 2, 2009 4:19:38 GMT -5
Excellent I'm glad it went well Moe --- you certainly have earned your new smiling Cheshire cat avatar
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