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Post by kammy on Apr 25, 2009 16:31:03 GMT -5
What makes Morgellons - Morgellons; is that we ALL produce a biofilm, 'specks' and 'fibers'. Arthrobotrys oligospora (AO) has been identifed visually in my and another's specimens, and meets all of the conditions of what this pathogen does in the human body, also, matching the Morgellons symptoms.
The smaller 'black specks' have been identified as Aspergillus Niger (AN) - if everyone is or has produced 'black specks' - they are more than likely the same as mine and another person's. Meaning that, everyone who has Morgellons should have or have had 'AN' as a pathogen. 'AN' is not a nematode predator as was seen in my photos, which INCLUDES 'AO'.
Of course, we still need more data to see if this is true, 2 samples are not enough to say with certainty. However, the 'AN' and 'AO' were transferred to a person who caught Morgellons from me, showing they are easily transmitted, they were in their samples.
Two other Morgellons sufferers have been noted to have 'AN' in their samples, also. However, we could have a mutated variety of 'AN', let's not leave that out, there are 166 varieties of it.
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Post by chaosonline on Apr 25, 2009 16:36:21 GMT -5
Thanks so much Kammy for taking the time to respond to my post. I'm sure the info you posted will help me get a grasp of this thread.
Karen
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Post by kammy on Apr 25, 2009 16:41:19 GMT -5
Thanks so much Kammy for taking the time to respond to my post. I'm sure the info you posted will help me get a grasp of this thread. Karen I try to write as simply as possible so that all can understand. Of course... sometimes, unintentionally, I don't. YW, Karen. (*smile)
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Post by bannanny on Apr 25, 2009 18:38:38 GMT -5
Yes... I have asperguillis niger in my home. It was one of the molds found here along with stachybotrys, chaetomium and fusarium (which the latter has also been linked to morgellons.) Here's a good pic of AN that I've had in my files for years now. Actually, the surrounding particles look alot like what I call white trails and what I see in the shadows of my morg samples... I'm gonna ask you again tho kammy to go to my "PLEASE PLEASE" thread, about the Basidiomycota I was telling you about. Go to the link below and scroll down to the pix Jill posted. I'm almost convinced the white floaties we see, are what she's showing us in her pix... lymebusters.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=rash&action=display&thread=12227&page=1hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by kammy on Apr 25, 2009 20:23:45 GMT -5
Aspergillus niger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaA. niger fermentation is "generally regarded as safe" (GRAS) by the United States Food and Drug Administration.[6] A. niger glucoamylase is used in the production of high fructose corn syrup, and pectinases are used in cider and wine clarification. á-galactosidase, an enzyme that breaks down certain complex sugars, is a component of Beano and other medications which the manufacturers claim can decrease flatulence. -------------------- A. niger is the main agent in the fermentation of Pu-erh tea. Pu-erh tea - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaPuer tea or Bolay tea is a type of tea made from a "large leaf" variety of the tea plant Camellia sinensis and named after Pu'er county near Simao, Yunnan, China. Pu-erh tea can be purchased as either raw/green (sheng) or ripened/cooked (shou), depending on processing method or aging. Sheng pu-erh can be roughly classified on the tea oxidation scale as a green tea, and the shou or aged-green variants as post-fermented tea. Pu-erh tea is available as loose leaf or as cakes of compacted tea (see Tea brick). -------------------- I don't know if the GRAS ingredients are required to be on our food labels? I would avoid products with A. niger in them, until we know more. That's only certain green teas, I'm sure it's not all of them?
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Post by kammy on Apr 25, 2009 20:31:50 GMT -5
Diatomaceous Earth Yes, Banny, I'm going right over there. We have an eye on Mr. Fusarium, he got put in a line-up today of suspects. It looks like the molds/fungus groups are what's hurting us. Aspergillus is another fungus, the same applies for getting health care, etc. as mentioned above for 'AO'... I would recommend that everyone takes anti-parasiticals (health food store), what we're doing on the other is called "DE"... Diatomaceous Earth. I'm on day 28 and did a recent culture in the dish and so far my parasite level is almost non-existent. And "DE" is very inexpensive, it comes in a powder form at your health food stores. You mix a tablespoon a day in your drink or food. I'm thinking that if our nematode levels are low, the AO fungus won't be making the sticky traps - (the fibers and specks) as much? You have to take the "DE" for 90 days straight. There's many health benefits to taking it. It acts a filter, etc.
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Post by kammy on Apr 25, 2009 20:43:38 GMT -5
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Post by kammy on Apr 25, 2009 20:52:51 GMT -5
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Post by kammy on Apr 25, 2009 21:32:08 GMT -5
I just went over to look at the BASIDIOMYCOTA thread and... my compliments to the thread creator - she/he's on the right track with what Morgellons is.
There's so many different varieties of each fungus... and some of them look like others... I think you're talking about that Pink stained Petri Dish photo that shows the clear mycelium traveling out in the dish?
What you need to do Banny is culture some of your biofilm, to see which specific fungus is your pathogen.
How you identify a fungus is by several different ways ... 1. what the growth looks like in the dish, what pattern it is making - you can look it up and compare what's growing with what's in your dish, 2. for the species that look alike - you look at the underside color in the dish and the 3. In it's spirochete (like in my photos above (puffy cotton ball)) stage which you will never see unless you culture it in a dish, makes for easy identification, sometimes, and then 4. what is seen growing from your biofilm - the other parts, usually fungus have several different 'parts' to its system.
It could be that one - like I said, there could be different 'strains' of Morgellons. I have 3 biofilms and 3 fungus going on inside of me. Come to think of it - I have 4 biofilms... 2 of mine are yellow, one is clearish, the other is clear.
Did you say - you don't produce the 'specks', Banny? I can't remember?
Petri dishes are not that expensive. You can even buy your own powder real cheap and make your own agar in any dish to save money.
I need more specimens... anyone who is producing 'debris' from a lesion, PM me and let's talk about looking at your Morgellons - I need controls to be able to present absolutely positive information. You can be anonomous, if you want... I need more data.
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Post by bannanny on Apr 25, 2009 21:57:37 GMT -5
That thread creator would be me and I'm a she! Thanks for your support there kammy! Yeah, I have the specs... I have it all! Everything but the open lesions. I'll try to send you some of the stuff that rolls off my hands, but right now I'm very tired and have to go lay down. I'll be back tomorrow...
g'night ~~ bannanny
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Post by kammy on Apr 26, 2009 8:51:24 GMT -5
That thread creator would be me and I'm a she! Thanks for your support there kammy! Yeah, I have the specs... I have it all! Everything but the open lesions. I'll try to send you some of the stuff that rolls off my hands, but right now I'm very tired and have to go lay down. I'll be back tomorrow... g'night ~~ bannanny Well... I obviously didn't look, I gave an unbiased opinion... and you passed! If I had looked... you know, I would have been influenced? I'm thinking these 'spores' inside of us can be a variety of species... thus - the reason for some of our differences? I still think we all have one of the many Aspergillus and one of the nematode trappers, as being in common. We won't 'officially' know until 'they' decide to tell us? How's that for covering the bases?
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Post by kammy on Apr 26, 2009 8:54:36 GMT -5
This is the first time I've painted a scenario of what's happening based on what I've seen. This is somewhat 'conjecture'... you tell me if you disagree with this 'story' of what's happening inside Morgellons? (I tried to put it in a way that the General Public could understand.) YouTube - What is Morgellons? The Mystery is Being Solved.@http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i97LZCj2jBU&feature=channel_page
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Post by kammy on Apr 26, 2009 13:25:38 GMT -5
I found this very interesting: Research team wins funds to unravel a DNA mystery"It is basic research which underpins applied science. Understanding how genes are controlled has huge implications for health and for anything that depends on biology, not only for humans but also all sorts of organisms," Dr Dodd said. "There are some diseases known which seem to be caused by incorrect looping interactions and improper control of gene interactions - including some cancers," Dr Shearwin said. "Anything we can do to help explain the processes involved could go some way towards helping future research into cancer and other diseases, which is why this basic research has attracted international interest and funding." Dr Shearwin and Dr Dodd will be working with two teams from Atlanta and Pittsburgh over the next three years. ------------------ In their photographic examples - THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M SEEING UNDER THE MICROSCOPE WITH MORGELLONS!DNA Looping mediated by protein binding as shown through Atomic Force Microscopy (the proteins appear as white spots). Full Image (114.67K)I have many photographs that show this same process/example, but - I do not have an "atomic force microscope" ? (Maybe we need to contact them - tell them - 'we have some samples that they won't need that fancy microscope with?) What do you all think about this article - those microscopic photographs are what Morgellons looks like in places in my dishes? All I have to do is adjust the field of vision in and out to see this happening.
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Post by tommy02141 on Apr 26, 2009 13:32:05 GMT -5
Really good job on the video Kammy!!
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Post by kammy on Apr 26, 2009 15:47:48 GMT -5
TY, Tommy... pull up a chair and tell us something about yourself? How's your Morgies coming along - you feeling ok?
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Post by kammy on Apr 26, 2009 15:53:47 GMT -5
Yes... I have asperguillis niger in my home. It was one of the molds found here along with stachybotrys, chaetomium and fusarium (which the latter has also been linked to morgellons.) Here's a good pic of AN that I've had in my files for years now. Actually, the surrounding particles look alot like what I call white trails and what I see in the shadows of my morg samples... I'm gonna ask you again tho kammy to go to my "PLEASE PLEASE" thread, about the Basidiomycota I was telling you about. Go to the link below and scroll down to the pix Jill posted. I'm almost convinced the white floaties we see, are what she's showing us in her pix...lymebusters.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=rash&action=display&thread=12227&page=1hugs ~~ bannanny White Floaties?... I forgot to comment on that, need to go back over Banny... we should just combine threads?... lol
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Post by kammy on Apr 26, 2009 16:09:08 GMT -5
Oh! White Floaties, I was over there reading looking for someone talking about their 'eyes' - as in 'Floaters'... it took me a minute to understand.
You see, I don't have "White Floaties"... I have somewhat normal looking house dust that contains 'fibers/hyphae'... but, the person that caught this from me has white, cotton floatie cobwebs...
She's what I call a 'Type 2' - someone who catches their Morgies from someone else. We don't yet if my theory is true or not - I am an original carrier - a 'Type 1' that does not make 'White Floaties'.
I came into direct contact with the shrooms, somehow... she didn't. And, how I think you can tell if you are a 'Type 1' or 'Type 2' is by if your initial Morgellons outbreak starts in your head/scalp and you start shooting spores like you're a mushroom. If yours did - then you're a 'Type 1'.
We have to keep in mind a lot of the fungi look similiar to the 'white angel hair'... as does my specimen.
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Post by kammy on Apr 26, 2009 16:21:17 GMT -5
MUSHROOMS? It wouldn't surprise me at all if mushrooms weren't the original vector! I remember eating them all the time in salads... and at one time, someone said - 'you don't even to wash those things...!' and I probably ate a few that way? What we need are some polling amongst the "Type 1's" to see if they were raw mushroom eaters? Then who wasn't eating shrooms, but maybe because I didn't wash a few of them before I ate them? It's not the shroom I'm concerned about, it's the SOIL that they are growing in...!!!! www.mushroomcouncil.com/aboutmushrooms/howmushroomsgrow.html"Because mushrooms have no chlorophyll, they must get all their nutrients from organic matter in their growing medium. The medium-called compost is scientifically formulated of various materials such as straw, corn cobs, cotton seed and cocoa seed hulls, gypsum and nitrogen supplements. Preparing the compost takes one to two weeks." This could be a whole thread in itself...
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Post by kammy on Apr 26, 2009 16:30:31 GMT -5
NOT ALL THE ATTRIBUTES OF ONE PERSON'S MORGELLONS IS TRANSFERRED TO ANOTHER PERSON
From the person who caught this from me, who IS producing 'white floaties', Experiment 2 - not EVERYTHING that showed up in my cultures TRANSFERRED to her body. She is missing a few of the 'parts'. Not everything is transferred from the 'Type 1' to the 'Type 2'.
Her YouTube is called "Morgellons Like You've Never Seen Before" for visual comparisions.
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Post by kammy on Apr 27, 2009 15:07:26 GMT -5
THE NEW QUORUM SENSING ANTIBIOTICS and THE ANTIFUNGALS: Kammy, there is this german wikipedia site which is always a little different in information than the english one. Damn! I need to translate. ... Die ersten Organismen, in denen Quorum sensing beobachtet wurde, sind die komplexen Myxobakterien und Spezies aus der Gattung der Streptomyceten. Am bekanntesten ist jedoch die Biolumineszenz von Vibrio fischeri, eine Bakterienart, die als Symbiont in den leuchtenden Organen einer Sepiaart lebt. Freilebende Bakterien dieser Art erreichen nicht dieselbe Konzentration wie innerhalb dieser Organe, weshalb sie dort nicht leuchten. Streptococcus pneumoniae nutzt Quorum sensing, um Kompetenz zu erreichen. Beim dimorphen Pilz Candida albicans wirkt Farnesol als Quorum-sensing-Molekül. Es hemmt bei hoher Populationsdichte das Hyphenwachstum. It says...well don't expect too much..it's not easy for me, but I'll try. Here we go: The first organisms which has shown Quorum sensing are the complex Myxobacteria and species from Streptomyces. The most known bacteria is Vibrio fischeri (a grammnegative bacteria which lives in the OCEAN!) which has bioluminescence..a bacteria which lives as a symbiont in the glowing organs of a sepia. Free living bacteria cannot reach this high concentration like in the organs that's why they don't glow. Streptococcus pneumonae uses Quorum sensing to reach capacity. With the dimorph fungus Candida albicans Farnesol works as a quorum sensing molecule. It blocks the hyphae growth by high population. As you can see there are bacteria and marine organisms involved here together with fungi. The whole bunch! Biotechdaily - New Generation of Antibiotics Disrupts Quorum Sensing - Online bioresearch news biotechdaily.com/?option=com_article&Itemid=294722535&cat=Drug%20Discovery...cells are forming a biofilm – a colony of bacteria that contains resistant organisms and is involved in many antibiotic-resistant infections – they perform a function that enables them to leave a unique imprint on the world: their DNA. A small percentage of cells explode in a process called “lysis,” leaving behind a sticky residue that contains DNA and other cellular bioproducts which are then incorporated into the larger cell community to build a stronger biofilm. New Hope For Fighting Antibiotic Resistance www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070426135314.htmThis disease has also something to do with anitibiotic overuse and antibiotic resistance I think. Antibiotic Compounds That Bacteria Can't Resist www.scientificblogging.com/alternate_allele/antibiotic_compounds_bacteria_cant_resistMethylthioadenosine nucleosidase Methylthioadenosine nucleosidase - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylthioadenosine_nucleosidaseEffects of antibiotics on quorum sensing in Pseudomonas aeruginosa. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18644954Effects of antibiotics on quorum sensing in Pseudo...[Antimicrob Agents Chemother. 2008] - PubMed Result ....The effects of the three antibiotics administered at subinhibitory concentrations were investigated by use of DNA microarrays. Consistent results from the virulence factor assays, reverse transcription-PCR, and the DNA microarrays support the finding that AZM, CFT, and CPR decrease the expression of a range of QS-regulated virulence factors. ....Three of the antibiotics tested, AZM, ceftazidime (CFT), and ciprofloxacin (CPR), were very active in the assay and were further examined for their effects on QS-regulated virulence factor production in P. aeruginosa. Jeany THE NEW QUORUM SENSING ANTIBIOTICS Theoretically, these new quorum sensing antibiotics should help with a fungal infection because ALL of these, bacteria, fungus, etc., are using the same enzyme to communicate. These new antibotics make these bacteria and fungus - deaf, dumb and blind so they can't continue to reproduce and therefore - die. HOWEVER... these may not be enough without an antifungal - because we don't know yet exactly what we're dealing with? The antifungals listed below as per Jeany's research, also. An antifungal alone may not be enough, because possibly, if there are nematodes involved - they are producing bacterial waste? According to Sarothra - What is seen as the "cherry red" that looks like blood, called 'PL' but is actually the bacterial, by-product waste of the nematode 'HB'. As per Jeany's research in a quote from the Crypto thread - and thank you, Jeany for your hard work - Jeany is key here folks, she is in Germany with Morgellons and Lyme's? and is working very hard to help us solve this. THE NAMES OF THESE NEW ANTIBIOTICS ARE: (as per Jeany's research): ...."Three of the antibiotics tested, AZM, ceftazidime (CFT), and ciprofloxacin (CPR), "[/b] EFFECTIVE ANTI-FUNGALS We need some science to figure out what's going on. Insist on a Mycology Report, don't just accept an antifungal prescription without some testing involved. However, if you can't get tested these anti-fungal drugs have been recommended by Mark Newmann and Jeany researched them today and this is her post: THE ANTIFUNGALS ARE:"Note: Voricanozole and Posaconazole are antifungals for invasive fungal infections in immunocompromised patients."
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