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Post by kammy on Nov 3, 2009 18:09:21 GMT -5
That's a great idea, Cam! ... however, I'm trying to get to Germany to get my blood tests to their doctors that are wanting to see my blood work up beside Jeany's. As some of you may or may not know, Jeany contracted symptoms again from being in the U.S. or in my environment. They are anxious to see my blood titers - we will prove that some aspects of Morgellons are contagious to another Morgie, whether it be environmental, food, water, or contact. We are looking strongly at the C. pneumonia aspect that supposedly 97% are showing.
I think ANY form of testing is better than none at all.
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Post by fritolay66 on Nov 4, 2009 1:12:36 GMT -5
Okay, what am I using by way of herbs.
In the particular roation I have been using the last fourty days, include:
The powerhouse: Amargo, Mutamba, Sarsaparilla, Cats Claw, & Pau d Arco. Added high dose garlic to continue to 30 days. I am running low on everything.
After thirty days, I will rotate another powerhouse.
The adjunctive: N-A-C & Vitamin C
Pulse when feel its needed: Tyrosine, Beta-Carotene, Taurine, L- Carnitine, Thymus, and the B Vitamins seperately. I also tend to pulse B 12 and D3 for 7 days at a time. Black Elderberry, yum.
I also quite caffiene cold turkey recently. I believe I was able to do this without withdrawel headaches due to the Tyrosine.
Happy Tummy and Colonix, these I mix together. I mentioned before I like the ingredients in Colonix, as I always seem to get a positive detox response to it. I use Happy Tummy for the pre and pro biotica and green food nutrients. Fiber too.
I drink differing types of teas during the week. I absolutely love green chai by "Stash". I also like the Yogi detox teas. There is the regular and the peach. The ingredients are different in each. Both are good combos for me, as I also get a positive detox response from these as well. I also drink Roiboos. We flavor with real honey, not the clover stuff.
Diet can always be improved and we are doing the best we can in the circumstance.
I use nothing on my skin, except for antifungal soap and sesame or olive oil. I do use essential oils but their use is according to what I am targeting or the detox symptoms I go through. Perfume goes on my clothes and not my skin.
I take atleast one soak bath with whatever goodies about once a week.
Geesh, you know I really do a lot of things. I have successfully incorporated it into an acceptable or attainable lifestyle. I switch from Lyme to Morgellons related protocols and sometimes ingredients from both into one. I have never stopped treating or running my protocls for more than 3 weeks at a time over the last 3 years. I address internal, external, and environment. Everything I do, I try to get it to compliment each other. Its just so hard to tell someone what one is doing because it is always so subject to change due to this or that. Its difficult to go through all the this and thats so others will understand.
Seeing all this fungal hypahe, I will more than likely in the next, address this with several antifungal herbs and target toxin herbs. I am also thinking about keeping the Sarsaparilla and Cats Claw to address the lyme and company and some new additons I have been considering. This seems to be a time of year when mine cycles. I cycled last year at this time as well. I guess we will see next year if October is still the hell month it has proven to be in the last two years before that one.
Frito
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Post by kammy on Nov 4, 2009 10:54:46 GMT -5
That's quite a bit of supplements there... I was wondering about this 'lobster' critter coming out of this sphere in my friend's and maybe your experiment? It's hard to tell from your photo if that is the same thing happening with you or not, her's was photographed at day 16 in the Petri Dish... and is much larger than yours.
I never saw such a thing coming out of my (or others) spheres and wondered if it had something to do with taking anti-parasiticals. She hadn't taken any and I had taken a lot. Just wondered if you took some lately, Frito?
Some choose not to focus on the parasitical involvement that's happening inside of us, that it is secondary to the fungi, bacteria or viruses or even the nano... well, I'm seeing where the main components - the biofilm, specks and fibers are all coming from the baculoviral/insect/parasitical aspect of the disease. The white fungus tends to grow the yellow biofilm when insect dna (or some sort of quorum sensing?) comes into contact with it... the white fungus tends to sprout the black fungus and more capsids, the green fungus has the white fungus in it, the black fungus sprouts the white fungus or it is from their quorum sensing marriage... hmmm?... do we have a known fungus that can be white, black and green in the dish and have different characteristics depending on its cycle - the specks can also be pieces of pesticide and other things besides the spheres that are generating more specks and possible future insects. The fungus tends to impregnate or infect the spheres and cause them to explode the polyhedron (spaceships). The fibers could be from the frass strands that the gnat or other GM insect is emitting with other things coming into play to create the Morgellons fibers, these are clear and transparent coming out of the gnat... if the GM gnat is defecating micelles, then we can possibly assume that other GM insects might be also? What causes fibers to be red or blue, and the other colors - red and blue... also the main colors of the hyphae of the white fungus?
Some sort of 'dynamic' interaction is happening here with this mixture, we just don't know why some of us tend to show it and others don't, if it is so 'dynamic' why wouldn't everyone be showing signs of Morgellons? Do we have something added that most people don't, do we need to start looking at non-Morgellons people to see what the differences are? The Morgellons pathogens are interlocking jig saw puzzle pieces, I'm wondering if it is capable of replacing another piece if it becomes missing to keep its 'system' in place? I would like to be able to gather as much information based on the visual of what we are seeing these objects and spheres doing, Frito, and then report what it is we think is happening? And, come up with some sort of likely scenario of how Morgellons operates inside of us? As per the paragraph above, it is quite a complex scenario that we are looking at? We don't know if we will hear the real truth anytime soon, right now - we are all we've got, and no other researchers are taking this avenue, which I find strange, also - the most likely way to see what is happening is not being done - publically, anyway. Thank goodness some are starting to get Petri Dishes to see for themselves.
I would like to prepare a paper in book form to present to the doctors back in Germany when we get back there to explain what we think is happening inside of Morgellons, giving them a good place to start looking based on some fairly sound science methods - and possibly mail it to Carnicom and Becky McClain... I just need as much scientific sound hypothesis put together to give it credibility, you understand, Frito? Or, you - with your medical background could write such a report, Jeany and I discussed this yesterday... "Where do we start?", she asked.
We start from identifying what we're seeing and name known objects, such as neutrophils, etc.
You see, the problem with our disease is this - it is as big as the nose on our faces - just look at the size of our visual objects that can be seen at 30x? and then... it's also invisible. The invisible are the possible viruses that can be present which we can't necessarily see. You know each speck on a sphere can represent a virus and a different one? And, here's the real kicker - it's invisible because it can take MONTHS before we see anything 'alive' in a Petri Dish! What lab or researcher keeps their dishes in a moist state for months or heats them up to get them to come to life? None! A fungal dish in a pathology lab is kept for one month, I believe? So, what are the odds that Carnicom, as an example, because he's working with Petri Dishes and has all the components present to produce something live - is even looking to see that something alive is possible to come from his experiment after observing it for a month or two, not likely?
Most doctors aren't microbiologists... sure, they've had a few courses. And, here is another loop hole in our medical system, I believe - someone correct me if I am wrong? As an example, I gave some debris off the outside of my ear onto a Q-tip and the doctor put it in a glass vile and sent it to pathology. He told them to test for fungi. Well, either there was fungi and it isn't in their data banks or what we are calling 'fungi' is something else? And, I know SOMETHING had to grow in my Dish that this sample ended up in - my point is - is the Lab Pathologist not allowed to speak up and say... 'I didn't see fungi in the dish... but, I saw...'? Does the Lab Pathologist not have any input to say something based on what they are seeing because what they are seeing does not match what the doctor has ordered to be looked for? They talk about wasting the Insurance Company's money... well, here is a prime example of how our money is wasted, if this is what is happening?
You asked for a 'progression study', Frito - I only did one such brief Experiment in which I mapped the Petri Dish, I'll post it soon. One way to easily map a dish is by drawing a different arrow or mark on each side of the dish and lid where they line up with a magic marker - and then you observe specific points in the dish - these points you are studying - you place a mark or number on the lid of the dish with the magic marker to indicate where they are, since a dish is a very large microscopic area, things can easily get 'lost', you can't find them days later if they have changed drastically, etc. - this way you can easily find them from day to day, when you photograph them.
I have tended to use a more random method for viewing - I usually come on the same objects over and over in my photography, anyway. I have put out my full library of photos into my blog site under the blood and tap water experiments... they show somewhat of a progression. I will be continuing to put out my photo library there for whomever is interested.
For those of us who aren't aware - What's the state of your condition, Frito? Do you have lesions, if so - where are they and what state are they in? What are your main complaints with your Morgellons? What progress have you made and what do you attribute it to? Any comments on anything I've said is muchly appreciated.
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Post by kammy on Nov 4, 2009 14:10:30 GMT -5
Other Vaccine Sphere Pathogens We don't know yet what is the cause of Morgellons. And, we would like to believe that the scientists that created it weren't aware that it could have these effects that we're seeing with ourselves happen in humans, that we are an accident? Most of us are willing to give our fellow man the benefit of the doubt here, that noone could be this intentionally evil? Most of us are trying to hold onto our belief systems, the things we hold dear, righteous and have been loyal to, and keep them intact? Our realities are shaken as Morgellons sufferers because we have our eyes wide open and can see and feel what is going on around us, more so than others. We're hearing some disturbing news about our country's government and the major drug companies that are apparently in bed with them. How a major pharmaceutical company, that is now producing our swine flu vaccines is allowed to do this after they knowingly shipped the avian flu virus in a vaccine to 17 countries, and how they knew the AIDS virus was in a vaccine that went out to hemapholiac children in Europe killing them and their families. In foreign countries this kind of action would lead to severe consequences, in our country, our Congress has made this sort of action non-challengeable and legal. About how the evidence looks overwhelming that our Government had a hand in the 911 bombings and the destruction and lives that tragically affected. It appears as if our government is a 7 headed monster out of control, and the world fears our power and will not or cannot step up to challenge us? The inner workings inside our corrupt system... the word is Morgellons - and when it is known what they have done to us, and how they have ignored us Health Care by the rest of the world - this should put our government and country in its place. That is what is feared... and what if there is something inside the past vaccines that was evidentally known to be there that we are seeing today inside our disease? What if the spheres mentioned below are a part that all of us have - do you think that if Morgellons is known to contain vaccine pathogens... that people would be rushing to get the most current swine flue vaccine allowing big pharma to lose out on billions of dollars? Or, if the vaccines that they are giving to our food cattle contains these pathogens as Jill has suggested with the T. parva involvement, would we be buying ground beef and steaks? (Where is Jill lately, BTW? Jill, we miss you.) I'm following the flu epidemic because we know one agent in the mix - Squalene has fullerenes, which we are seeing in our 'fungal' to capsid formation inside of Morgellons. I came across this informative video on YouTube today, you have to pause it to read what each page says: www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgZDYs0pAKc&NR=1Here's one of the questions and answers, I only listed a couple of their answers in that it is a long answer: Q: Ok, but let's ignore that distinction between different type of contaminants for a moment. What contaminates did you find in your many years work with vaccines? A: All right. I'll give you some of what I came across, and I'll also give you what collegues of mine found. Here's a partial list. In the Rimavex measles vaccine, we found several chicken viruses. In polio vaccine, we found acanthamoeba, which is the so-called 'brain-eating amoeba'. Pestivirus is in the MMR vaccine.I was curious as to what this Acanthamoeba and Pestivirus looked like?: Acanthamoeba and how it attacks the eyes and is herpes-like: Acanthamoeba keratitis may mimic herpes simplex keratitis. The prevalence of this infection may be greater than suspected previously Our laboratory developed a rapid screen for the identification of Acanthamoeba organisms in corneal epithelial scrapings. Our lab staff can answer questions for you about the proper techniques required for this rapid screening test. These photos look real close: these photos above were found @http://scielo.iics.una.py/img/revistas/anales/v38n3/3a05f2.JPG tinyurl.com/yb2vvhnAcanthamoeba polyphaga mimivirus Pestivirus en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PestivirusPestivirus is a genus of viruses that belong to the family Flaviviridae. Viruses in the genus Pestivirus infect mammals, including members of the family Bovidae (which includes, but is not limited to, cattle, sheep, and goats) and the family Suidae ( which includes various species of swine). We know that protozoa can be incorporated and disguised into the baculoviral system as evidence of Angela's Isopora belli - shell - that I have photos of that has produced a GM fungus gnat. It's also possible that it has the capacity, unknowingly by its creators, to incorporate other protozoa, bacteria, fungi, nano and viruses into its system, as we are suspecting? I wonder if any studies been done on this aspect of the baculovirus - its ability to incorporate and then disguise other pathogens? I can hardly see that if I were a scientist in this field that I would not know this information and especially, if it were to be introduced into the food and water supplies - that I would not have a thorough understanding of how the baculovirus operates? What would be the narrow focus logic to allow this product on the market?... 'I'm just creating a biopesticide here... I don't know that they are going to add a pesticide to this, or fungi... or that someone is going to get certain pathogens from a vaccination... those factors aren't required to be my responsibility, so therefore, I don't have to look'?
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Post by fritolay66 on Nov 4, 2009 15:48:15 GMT -5
Yes, I have also taken a lot. The anit-parasiticals you asked about for my current use would be Amargo and Mutamba. Amargo is a potent anit-parasitical/anti-protozoal. I hadn't tried a powerful anti-protozoal. I consulted with someone and their recommendation was this to me. I bought the herbs from the Rainforest. Upon veiwing my microscopy slides, I am rather glad I did. When taking anti-protozoals, the recommendation is atleast fourty days. I have done that and this is still what I am seeing. So I am thinking perhaps this and some anitvirals.
I plan on challenging the antiviral premise with pharma.
Did you see what I posted from the CCID? I wonder if this is where the results from the Morgellons study will come from. The truth. I don't think we will hear it anytime soon either. Look at what they have managed to cover up about Lyme, or AIDS, or GWS. Talk about the seven headed monster. What of the seven plagues?
Shoot. I forgot to post those and I will get right on that.
Yes, I plan on doing that as well. This outta be interesting and I can't wait to correlate with you guys.
I think what you have done is outstanding. I hope my request or slash ie. observation for a progressive study did not put you on the defense as it was not meant to do that. More my intent was that because of your great observations and info, I wanted to make your stand a bit stronger in the case you were going to present this to the medical community. Which from your statements, I now know to be correct. With the resistence we have going on, all bases will need to be thought of and followed.
Do I believe the virus or baculaovirus is Morgellons? Is lyme? What if it is? What if it isn't? Is it the only player? Certainly not. I refuse to close my mind to the endless possibilities and will continue to bang my head on all the walls that present. I really do feel baculovirus is an important piece.
Frito
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Post by fritolay66 on Nov 4, 2009 18:41:53 GMT -5
Ya know Kammy, You are one of the only that has asked how I am doing. Thank you. That means much to me. Two years ago I was covered in lesions from head to toe. Yep, even my toes. It was horrific. Currently, I generate a few pimples here and there. My face, neck, arms are where they occur. In the same places that generated the most lesions. I just had a bump occur in my scalp at the base of my hair in back, but it resolved within two days. They seem to come and go with the rapidity I had when younger. So, I feel as if I am atleast getting somewhere. The skin is a filter and is the first choice to spit things out of the body by the body. I haven't had a headache in awhile. I used to get them so bad, that I would of thrown up except it hurt to damn bad to do it. I had just about every symptom of Bartonella as one could get and Lyme fit my experience quite well. With a positive 41, we started using Lyme protocols to what I feel was our benefit. In the beginning, it seemed like it was one continual fight, never stopping. I was so incredibly sick. Now I just suffer boughts of fatigue and such. I don't herx at the levels I used to in the beginning. I have learned that those are more debilitating than anything. I have learned to guage the level of what I do with herxing and back off to a level just under the big herx. Makes life bearable. I know I gain weight when the toxins build up and lose weight when I am doing well. Am I cured. Absolutely not. I have only learned to control it to an acceptable level. And it has left me badly scarred. I recently went through bone aches, and heart stuff. Perhaps another level the morgs has gone to. I feel like I am chasing one mean mother that could bite my ass again if I am not diligent. If there was anything specific that I failed to address in your inquiry, please ask. But, thank you for asking. Frito
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Post by kammy on Nov 4, 2009 20:00:25 GMT -5
Did you see in the case history report that most of us gained 30 pounds at the onset of our disease? I did, but, I lost it... but, I'm working on finding it again. ;D
How long have you been battling "M", Frito?
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Post by fritolay66 on Nov 4, 2009 20:07:00 GMT -5
2006
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Post by fritolay66 on Nov 4, 2009 20:13:50 GMT -5
I forgot to answer your question. Yes, I saw in the case report the tendency to gain weight with onset. But actually my experience has been the gaining of weight when I am in trouble and the loss when I am doing something right. I believe that weight gain has everything to do with toxins. Whatever the toxins are generated from, whether it be a specific disease, or cytokienes. Toxins. My eating habits and diet do not roller coaster, so I I believe the gaining and losing has everything to do with toxins.
Lipid Storage. A great place for the body to create space to hold all the crap it doesn't really want. Those toxins can generate and affect a whole slew of things including hormones, leptin, cellular changes, I could go on and on. When that weight starts coming off again, I know to start detoxing, or I get sick. It is why when ever rotating anything, one should always detox at the same time. I know if I gain, I am doing doing a good enough job.
Can I ask where you are at?
Frito
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Post by kammy on Nov 4, 2009 20:56:08 GMT -5
I'm in Atlanta, GA, Frito... Jeany is visiting - we had the pleasure of meeting another Atlantian that's on the board here the other day - PPY - what a ball of fire! Yo! PPY... you there? Hey! I need that $40!! ;D (just kidding)
Where are you, Frito? Oh, I see it says you're from Kansas or Missouri... you like it there?
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Post by jeany on Nov 4, 2009 21:00:27 GMT -5
OK folks..just look at this! Here's the newest video of MeeeaaatsMeeeaaats... Yeah..we taught him well.. ;D ;D..guess he's copying us? Jeany
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Post by kammy on Nov 4, 2009 21:03:37 GMT -5
Miez! Get off of my computer screen, I can't see anything!... lol Miez Miez is his name - not "Meeeeaaats Meeeaaats"...
Where did Violet go?... Violet? You got any recent kitty pics? Frito, you have a cat?
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Post by jeany on Nov 5, 2009 8:50:22 GMT -5
Miez! Get off of my computer screen, I can't see anything!... lol Miez Miez is his name - not "Meeeeaaats Meeeaaats"... Where did Violet go?... Violet? You got any recent kitty pics? Frito, you have a cat? YEAH..it's MeeeaaaatssMeeeeaaatss..YEP!..He's a southern boy, isn't he? ;D, altho he understands both languages by now.. ;D Jeany
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Post by fritolay66 on Nov 5, 2009 9:34:26 GMT -5
Do I like it here? Not really, I am a Denver mountain girl at heart. Hope to go back one of these days permanently.
Miez is very cute. Still a kitten?
Going to go do that neutrophil while it is still on my mind. Its back to work today.
Frito
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Post by kammy on Nov 5, 2009 10:25:43 GMT -5
Frito, I had someone comment on my blog article about how I should culture some red wine by itself. I don't know if you followed that article but, I did a parallel to Carnicom to see what my results would be and the red wine/swish mixture grew the Morgellons 'fungus', just like he's showing. Also, when I sat out glasses of red wine, they also grew the fungus. The only difference is... the fungus in red wine has a green top color to it, however, it is the same as the white-only fungus in all other aspects. Below the dark surface of it the white fungus comes out, the color of the hyphae are the same... and the 'carbon balls' appear...
We have seen where the what I have called black in the past - the black could be a dark green?, microscopically it looks black in color for lack of light through it - the black (or green) and white are in a quorum sensing married state, you usually see the black and white both in a Morg dish.
Anyway, I said I would culture some red wine by itself to see what it produces - eliminating the variables of the inside of the human mouth.
From my experiment, it appears that the red wine itself contains the Morgellons 'fungal' pathogen. Jeany and I looked at the yeasts used in wine, bread, cheese making, and came up with SC and it is inconclusive at this time, and Ruth has found a similarity to the slime mold families, DD. I'm wondering if there's a slime mold used in food manufacturing... I wouldn't put anything past them? I think it's very important to identify the fungal/yeast/mold aspect of our disease.
I'm thinking that if it is one that is GRAS and we are showing some sort allergy to it... they are probably using this in a variety of products and we need to know which ones to avoid? And, mostly be able to report to our doctors that this is what's most likely happening. We've got to get a handle on this aspect in order to get better. I need to go buy some cheap wine...
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Post by jeany on Nov 5, 2009 11:00:05 GMT -5
Hey you guys, from what I have researched in the past according SC I would say it's definitely part of our disease..there are just too many commonalities if you ask me AND it's in the Baculovirae mix..together with BT..used in a Urasil Pesticide along with other bacteria and fungal pathogens to kill insects mainly Diptera.
Jeany
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Post by jeany on Nov 5, 2009 11:05:18 GMT -5
Do I like it here? Not really, I am a Denver mountain girl at heart. Hope to go back one of these days permanently. Miez is very cute. Still a kitten? Going to go do that neutrophil while it is still on my mind. Its back to work today. Frito Hi Frito..yeah..up in the mountains! I live pretty close to the Alps..it's a 3 hour trip and I'm in Austria..beautiful there..but I think Denver is just as pretty by looking at pictures...never been there though..might be my next trip? Miez..he's the most adorable cat...He's about 5 months now I would say..and he just loves to play with a crumpled up kleenex..I throw it towards him and he catches it very quickly and brings it back like a dog.. ..he's so much fun! Jeany
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Post by kammy on Nov 5, 2009 11:10:25 GMT -5
Hey you guys, from what I have researched in the past according SC I would say it's definitely part of our disease..there are just too many commonalities if you ask me AND it's in the Baculovirae mix..together with BT..used in a Urasil Pesticide along with other bacteria and fungal pathogens to kill insects mainly Diptera. Jeany So, the yeast is killing the live flies and larvae? Is that why we don't have a large incidence of live critters reported? And, if we attack the yeast/fungus - we then start seeing more live activity? Whoa! Something to think about...? We know this Urasil is almost 100% involved... the pieces will come together - we've got to keep digging.
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Post by violet on Nov 5, 2009 11:50:37 GMT -5
Frito, I had someone comment on my blog article about how I should culture some red wine by itself. I don't know if you followed that article but, I did a parallel to Carnicom to see what my results would be and the red wine/swish mixture grew the Morgellons 'fungus', just like he's showing. Also, when I sat out glasses of red wine, they also grew the fungus. The only difference is... the fungus in red wine has a green top color to it, however, it is the same as the white-only fungus in all other aspects. Below the dark surface of it the white fungus comes out, the color of the hyphae are the same... and the 'carbon balls' appear... We have seen where the what I have called black in the past - the black could be a dark green?, microscopically it looks black in color for lack of light through it - the black (or green) and white are in a quorum sensing married state, you usually see the black and white both in a Morg dish. Anyway, I said I would culture some red wine by itself to see what it produces - eliminating the variables of the inside of the human mouth. From my experiment, it appears that the red wine itself contains the Morgellons 'fungal' pathogen. Jeany and I looked at the yeasts used in wine, bread, cheese making, and came up with SC and it is inconclusive at this time, and Ruth has found a similarity to the slime mold families, DD. I'm wondering if there's a slime mold used in food manufacturing... I wouldn't put anything past them? I think it's very important to identify the fungal/yeast/mold aspect of our disease. I'm thinking that if it is one that is GRAS and we are showing some sort allergy to it... they are probably using this in a variety of products and we need to know which ones to avoid? And, mostly be able to report to our doctors that this is what's most likely happening. We've got to get a handle on this aspect in order to get better. I need to go buy some cheap wine... Could the wood that the wine is aged in be what the fungus/mold is coming from?
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Post by jeany on Nov 5, 2009 11:59:49 GMT -5
Violet asked: Could the wood that the wine is aged in be what the fungus/mold is coming from?
hmm..Violet..that's an interesting point you brought up here! You know, some Morgies have reported to have strange looking fungal growth on their window frames and I was also thinking about how wood panels, window frames, door and wood flooring might be involved within the mold/fungus aspect. I was thinking about DD in particular...
Definitely something to look closer at..
Jeany
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