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Post by toni on Nov 8, 2009 13:26:38 GMT -5
Toni and Kammy's (spores from our growths) in petri dishes. Kammy...they SURE do look the same! Scalloped edged and all.
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Post by toni on Nov 8, 2009 13:28:12 GMT -5
Ruth,
I wonder if your "spores" that had that donut look, aren't hollow at all.
They're just the clear ones and when we take pictures of them, they can appear to only have a border, giving them the illusion of being like a "donut" hollow in the middle.
But yet, they're clear gel balls.
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Post by kammy on Nov 8, 2009 13:28:58 GMT -5
Here is Marsha's lab results:
Spore Name Description
> ASPERGILLUS VERY COMMON INDOOR AND OUTDOOR MOLD. ONE OF THE MOST COMMON MOLD TYPES FOUND WORLDWIDE. FOUND ON DECAYING PLANT MATTER, SOIL, FOODSTUFFS AND LEATHER, ETC. RESPONSIBLE FOR TYPE I ALLERGIES (HAY FEVER), TYPE III HYPERSENSITIVITY PNEUMONITIS, SOME SPECIES THAT ARE CAPABLE OF GROWING AT BODY TEMPERATURE ARE PATHOGENIC TO HUMANS. CAPABLE OF PRODUCING TOXINS, BUT TOXIN PRODUCTION DEPENDS UPON THE SUBSTRATE THE MOLD IS GROWING ON. POTENTIAL OPPORTUNISTIC PATHOGEN.
> CLADOSPORIUM COMMONLY FOUND ON DEAD PLANTS, WOODY PLANTS, FOOD, STRAW, SOIL, PAINT AND TEXTILES. COMMON CAUSE OF EXTRINSIC ASTHMA (IMMEDIATE-TYPE HYPERSENSITIVITY: TYPE I). ACUTE SYMPTOMS INCLUDE EDEMA AND BRONCHIOSPASMS; CHRONIC CASES MAY DEVELOP PULMONARY EMPHYSEMA.
> CURVULARIA IT MAY CAUSE CORNEAL INFECTIONS, MYCETOMA AND INFECTIONS IN IMMUNE COMPROMISED HOSTS. NON-SPORULATING FUNGI MANY FUNGI DO NOT FORM SPORES USING ROUTINE GROWTH MEDIA AND UNDER NORMAL GROWTH CONDITIONS IN THE LABORATORY. SPORES ARE VERY USEFUL TO HELP IDENTIFY THE FUNGUS. NON-SPORULATING COLONIES ARE OFTEN A RESULT OF GERMINATING MUSHROOM SPORES
> (BASIDIOSPORES). NON-SPORULATING FUNGI CAN POTENTIALLY BE ALLERGENIC, IRRITATING, OR CAUSE HYPERSENSITIVITY PNEUMONITIS, AND DERMATITIS
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Post by jeany on Nov 8, 2009 13:31:05 GMT -5
well..yes..Toni..yours does look like AN..BUT I also think you might have a mix showing there..a mix with AN and the one Ruth and Sidney are showing?
The Fungus I'm looking at is actually referring to Ruth's and Sidney's pix.
Jeany
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Post by kammy on Nov 8, 2009 13:34:20 GMT -5
That's what I'm thinking... it's been hard to identify because they are 'marrying'? Aspergillus is definitely in there with something else? At times, they are separate in the dish, they reach out (quorum sense) the other ones presence and marry into a muted strain?
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Post by kammy on Nov 8, 2009 14:00:05 GMT -5
Toni, the pics you and I posted are most likely AN... Jeany has identified the one that Sid and Ruth are showing with the blue conidia, I think we have 2 different fungi showing here.
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Post by toni on Nov 8, 2009 14:16:58 GMT -5
Gosh, I sure thank you both for your help. I've been searching too. These sort of look like the "cherry ball" looking stuff too, don't you think? Gosh..I've got to read more about this one and see if it grows that white cottony like hyphae. This one pictured here is from an article on: Rhizopus Oryzae
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Post by jeany on Nov 8, 2009 14:22:17 GMT -5
Gosh, I sure thank you both for your help. I've been searching too. These sort of look like the "cherry ball" looking stuff too, don't you think? Gosh..I've got to read more about this one and see if it grows that white cottony like hyphae. This one pictured here is from an article on: Rhizopus Oryzae YEP!! BINGO!!... ;D..That's the one!!Rhizopus!!Here's another pic that shows the zygosporangium (a later stage): The zygosporangium has not been seen in the present shown petri dishes yet. We need to wait and let it grow in order to see if the sporangia develope. I had exactly one of those in my urine...talked with Frito about it over at MDR.. Toni..might NOT be a mix..look at this: Zygomycetes..Rhizopus belongs to the same familyIt's a german site: www.holz-schimmel.de/jochpilze.htmlAND...it's a WOOD fungus!! Remember you guys were I was talking about a possible connection to wood? and that somebody at MDR was talking about a strange looking fungus growing on their window frames? it looked exactly the same!! Jeany
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Post by toni on Nov 8, 2009 14:28:22 GMT -5
Hey, that's GREAT!!! You know what else? This is that white fuzzy cottony stuff too that grows on (fruit and breads). This too is what we were mentioning on other threads, that vegies (tomatoes) are growing this stuff something fierce, and I can't even leave bread in it's bag on the counter or in 3 days time, it too starts growing this white fuzzy mold/fungi. Are you seeing this happen too? This is what is really going wild, this white fuzzy cottony mold...for some reason. Oh, this is good. Now the question is (why is it so prevalent)? It sure wasn't before. ugh. www.flickr.com/photos/gjshepherd/3225616753/heheh now I can call those (cherry balls) by their proper name: Sporangia they're called. Forgot about that.
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Post by Sidney on Nov 8, 2009 14:36:05 GMT -5
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Post by jeany on Nov 8, 2009 14:39:11 GMT -5
Hey, that's GREAT!!! You know what else? This is that white fuzzy cottony stuff too that grows on (fruit and breads). YES!!!This too is what we were mentioning on other threads, that vegies (tomatoes) are growing this stuff something fierce, and I can't even leave bread in it's bag on the counter or in 3 days time, it too starts growing this white fuzzy mold/fungi. Are you seeing this happen too? YES!!!This is what is really going wild, this white fuzzy cottony mold...for some reason. Oh, this is good. Now the question is (why is it so prevalent)? It sure wasn't before. ugh. www.flickr.com/photos/gjshepherd/3225616753/heheh now I can call those (cherry balls) by their proper name: Sporangia they're called. Forgot about that. Hey! This is great! Jeany
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Post by kammy on Nov 8, 2009 14:43:33 GMT -5
Toni or Ruth - can you shoot down into your dish and show us a 100x photo of your specimen?
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Post by jeany on Nov 8, 2009 14:44:04 GMT -5
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Post by kammy on Nov 8, 2009 14:49:36 GMT -5
I think I have a photo of Mr. Zygosporangium in his later stage, found in a human sample? Let me find it... This looks like what's happening above... is this sphere a sporangium?
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Post by jeany on Nov 8, 2009 14:57:42 GMT -5
This is from a previous post at MDR: Is a mutated form of Zygomycosis a part of Morgellons Disease?Zygomycosis is the broadest term to refer to an infection caused by fungi of the zygomycetes order. Zygomycosis can refer to mucormycosis (after Mucorales), phycomycosis (after Phycomycetes) and basidiobolomycosis (after Basidiobolus), rare yet serious and potentially life-threatening fungal infections, usually affecting the face or oropharyngeal cavity. Zygomycosis is often caused by common fungi which can be found in soil and decaying vegetation. While most individuals are exposed to the fungi on a regular basis those with immune disorders are more prone to an infection. As such, it usually infects those who are immunocompromised. Occasionally, when caused by Pythium or similar fungi, the condition may affect the gastrointestinal tract or the skin. It usually begins in the nose and paranasal sinuses and is one of the most rapidly spreading fungal infections in humans. Pathogenic Zygomycosis is caused by species in two orders: Mucorales and Entomophthorales, Order Mucorales (mucormycosis) Family Mucoraceae Absidia (Absidia corymbifera) Apophysomyces (Apophysomyces elegans) Mucor (Mucor indicus) Rhizomucor (Rhizomucor pusillus) Rhizopus (Rhizopus oryzae) Family Cunninghamellaceae Cunninghamella (Cunninghamella bertholletiae) Family Thamnidiaceae Cokeromyces (Cokeromyces recurvatus) Family Saksenaeaceae Saksenaea (Saksenaea vasiformis) Family Syncephalastraceae Syncephalastrum (Syncephalastrum racemosum) Order Entomophthorales (entomophthoramycosis) Family Basidiobolaceae Basidiobolus (Basidiobolus ranarum) Family Ancylistaceae Conidiobolus (Conidiobolus coronatus/Conidiobolus incongruus)
Zygomycosis frequently involves the sinuses, brain, or lungs as the sites of infection.
While oral or cerebral zygomycosis are the most common types of the disease, this infection can also manifest in the gastrointestinal tract, skin, and in other organ systems.Affected skin may appear relatively normal during the earliest stages of infection. This skin quickly progresses to an erythemic (reddening, occasionally with edema) stage, before eventually turning black due to necrosisDiagnosis is often difficult because basidiobolomycosis is a rare disease and therefore often not recognised. The lesions often look like tumours rather than infection, so often no sample is sent for microbiology, however, the histopathology is characteristic: the " Splendore-Hoeppli phenomenon" describes the presence of fungal hyphae (which may exist only as faded streaks on the film) surrounded by eosinophilic material. Eosinophilia: Hypereosinophilic syndrome Parasitic infections (intestinal helminthiasis) Allergic disorders (including eosinophilic esophagitis) Some drug reactions, e.g. DRESS syndrome Cholesterol embolization Churg-Strauss syndrome Some forms of chronic myeloid leukaemia Hodgkin's lymphoma Gleich's syndrome Addison's disease Clonorchis sinensis, a type of flatworm Eosinophilia-myalgia syndrome caused by contaminated tryptophan supplements In patients with deep involvement, the eosinophil count may be raised, falsely suggesting a parasitic infection. Zygomycosis also has similar symptoms to other diseases including anthrax, aspergillosis and cellulitis. www.morgellons-disease-research.com/Morgellons-Message-Board/morgellons-disease-fiber-disease/5033-suspected-pathogens-morgellons-3.html#post41301Jeany
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Post by jeany on Nov 8, 2009 15:02:48 GMT -5
Mucocutaneous Splendore-Hoeppli phenomenonwww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18976399Splendore-Hoeppli phenomenon (asteroid bodies) is the in vivo formation of intensely eosinophilic material (radiate, star-like, asteroid or club-shaped configurations) around microorganisms (fungi, bacteria and parasites) or biologically inert substances. This study presents a literature review concerning Splendore-Hoeppli reaction in the mucocutaneous diseases. It examines the histopathological features, nature and differential diagnosis of this reaction. It also discusses the mucocutaneous infections and the non-infective diseases associated with it. Available studies indicate that several mucocutaneous infections can generate Splendore-Hoeppli reaction. The fungal infections include sporotrichosis, pityrosporum folliculitis, zygomycosis, candidiasis, aspergillosis and blastomycosis. The bacterial infections include botryomycosis, nocardiosis and actinomycosis. The parasitic conditions include orbital pythiosis, strongyloidiasis, schistosomiasis and cutaneous larva migrans. In addition, Splendore-Hoeppli reaction may be seen with non-infective pathology such as hypereosinophilic syndrome and allergic conjunctival granulomas. The Splendore-Hoeppli reaction material comprises antigen-antibody complex, tissue debris and fibrin. Although the exact nature of this reaction is unknown, it is thought to be a localized immunological response to an antigen-antibody precipitate related to fungi, parasites, bacteria or inert materials. The characteristic formation of the peribacterial or perifungal Splendore-Hoeppli reaction probably prevents phagocytosis and intracellular killing of the insulting agent leading to chronicity of infection. To conclude, Splendore-Hoeppli reaction is a tell tale of a spectrum of infections and reactive conditions. The molecular pathways involved in the development of this reaction are open for future investigations. Jeany
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Post by jeany on Nov 8, 2009 15:09:30 GMT -5
I think I have a photo of Mr. Zygosporangium in his later stage, found in a human sample? Let me find it... This looks like what's happening above... is this sphere a sporangium? YEP! Kammy! That's it!..it was a whitish, creamy color. Gosh..you guys..we're getting so darn close! :-*Jeany
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Post by jeany on Nov 8, 2009 15:25:43 GMT -5
Sporangiumen.wikipedia.org/wiki/SporangiumRhizopus nigricans: zygotes, w.m. In sexual reproduction special hyphae of opposite mating types touch, their ends swell, and the two cytoplasms intermingle. Nuclei from both parents enter this joint bulge, and a thick-walled zygospore (brown and rough) develops. Nuclei fuse (diploid cell), meiosis occurs, and haploid spores are formed and dispersed. faculty.baruch.cuny.edu/jwahlert/bio1003/fungi.htmlJeany
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Post by kammy on Nov 8, 2009 15:27:09 GMT -5
I doubt that the lab tests diagnose Rhizopus so, we would have to see a Mycologist or an Allergist, to get confirmation on this?
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Post by jeany on Nov 8, 2009 15:31:25 GMT -5
I believe they are also called Haploid Spores.. Spores contain DNA and can develop into new organisms after dispersal. Spores are unicellular and haploid (having one-half of the genetic complement as have somatic, or body, cells). They are produced by meiosis in the sporophyte, a structure whose cells have a full complement of chromosomes (usually diploid) and generates the spores. (For most organisms, a full complement of chromosomes is diploid, but some organisms exhibit polyploidy, whereby there are more than two homologous sets of chromosomes.) Once conditions are favorable, the haploid spore can develop into a new organism using mitotic division, producing a multicellular, haploid gametophyte—a structure, or phase of life, that contains only half of the total complement of chromosomes. Eventually, the gametophyte will go on to produce gametes, which are mature reproductive or sex cell that are also haploid. Two gametes fuse to create a new sporophyte—an organism with a full complement of chromosomes. www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/SporeJeany
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