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Post by toni on Nov 8, 2009 16:21:37 GMT -5
Great great info everyone! This isn't a great pic, but they call this the "bread mold". Isn't that something..this stuff has been growing on fresh bread from the store, (when I've only had it for a few days). I've had to keep bread in the freezer (immediately after it's purchased), and only take out slices when I need it. I thought it was because I was touching it, I was "giving it my mold"...which that may be the case! This link really is interesting. www.backyardnature.net/f/bredmold.htm
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Post by toni on Nov 8, 2009 16:36:13 GMT -5
Rhizopus is a cosmopolitan filamentous fungus found in soil, decaying fruit and vegetables, animal feces, and old bread. While Rhizopus spp. are common contaminants, they are also occasional causes of serious (and often fatal) infections in humans. Colonies of Rhizopus grow very rapidly, fill the Petri dish, and mature in 4 days. The texture is typically cotton-candy like. www.doctorfungus.org/Thefungi/Rhizopus.htm
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Post by Sidney on Nov 8, 2009 16:49:28 GMT -5
Not really, Jeany. We're seeing that everyone has had Aspergillus in their home test lab kit results prior so far... that's all we have to go on - it, and Cladosporium, I believe - is this correct? Do we need to find where people have posted their past lab results and put them in this thread? YES, YES. Please do this. That would be very helpful! Thanks.
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Post by fritolay66 on Nov 8, 2009 19:57:00 GMT -5
Ah hell, I can't remember which thread I posted about my petri.
It has been about a week now, patiently waiting. There is something starting, but nothing I am doing a happy dance about. I am going to scope it tonight and see if I see anything by scope. How long before you all had big tufts of stuff?
I have always treated fungus aggressively. Could this be why or am I being impatient?
Frito
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Post by fritolay66 on Nov 8, 2009 20:44:02 GMT -5
Here is some of what I am seeing. And then a sphere in my petri. Anything familar?
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Post by Sidney on Nov 8, 2009 20:55:33 GMT -5
Frito, I started my first culture on a Friday night. I don't have a microscope, and by just eyeballing the petri dish on Sunday I was sure I saw a subtle change in appearance. By Monday morning I had white fluffy mold growing on hairs I had plucked from above my upper lip and on the skin scrapings.
Yes, you have growth starting.
Toni Sue's and Ruth's mold grew more quickly than my own did.
I keep my petri dishes in a kitchen cabinet with glass doors, room temperature, and of course they do get plenty og light because we have a 12 ft. garden window in the kitchen and glass French Doors. Lots of light all day long.
Please continue to update us on your own mold growth. This is simply amazing.
To me your images indicate significant mold growth.
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Post by ruth on Nov 8, 2009 21:27:46 GMT -5
frito, the center sphere is familiar.
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Post by fritolay66 on Nov 9, 2009 0:08:47 GMT -5
Thank you Sid and Ruth. I don't think my petri is going to make any speed records with fantastic mounds of mold growth. You know, for as hard and as long as I have been hitting the fungal aspect, I really shouldn't have any. My son was joking the other day calling the whole thing a nuclear holucost and we shouldn't really have anything. I ran a piece of tape in his bed the other day and came up with some fantastic pictures. Sid, I am glad to hear someones didn't grow all that fast either. I will wait another week before doing a second. I had mine in a kitchen drawer, so it doesn't get any light. Should I move it out into the light? Frito
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Post by fritolay66 on Nov 9, 2009 0:11:16 GMT -5
You know Ruth, I wanted to say something about the sphere. There is no moisture in the petri in which may cause an water bubble. I suppose it could be the medium, but it was not shaken and the pour was slow and steady. My sphere also seems hollow. I am going to try your kool aid idea on some slides in the next week.
Frito
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Post by Sidney on Nov 9, 2009 0:28:03 GMT -5
Frito, you might want to slip your petri dish into a small zip lock bag and set it on any flat-level surface in any room. I hate the thought of all that yuck escaping, so either use the plastic bag that came with it or a good quality Zip-Lock bag.
Remember that if you're going to mail it in for identification of the mold growth that you need to tape the lid to the dish by placing the tape along the edge that will join the lid to the dish. The instructions suggest using electrical tape
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Post by fritolay66 on Nov 9, 2009 0:52:52 GMT -5
Sid,
I did all that. I have it taped with the elctrical tape they advised on the insert. And you bet it is in the baggie that came with the kit. I didn't want any contaimination artifact issues. I take it out of the baggie but leave the dish and tape alone when I microscope.
I guess, my question was whether the mold would grow faster in the light, or can I just keep it in the drawer for know. My kitchen is tiny and full, so the drawer was the safest place for it.
Frito
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Post by Sidney on Nov 9, 2009 1:18:53 GMT -5
Frito, my best guess is that it shouldn't be in a drawer. I don't know how old your son is, but unless you worry that he might contaminate himself by getting into it (a real concern for sure if he's young and curious) I would haul that sucker out and scream "Let there be LIGHT!"
I like looking at my petri dishes. Every time I do it gives me an excuse to say a whole string of very unlovely words unbecoming a respectable grandmother.
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Post by toni on Nov 9, 2009 8:21:36 GMT -5
Frito,
I think it's on page 4 or 5 of this thread, that I put (salt size specimens) into my petri dish on Thursday to begin with.
Friday, it didn't look like much.
Then Saturday (there was growth, a lot of it).
Sunday, yesterday (pictures posted) my entire petri dish was covered with that cotton candy fluffy mold and the right side of the fluffy mold has all those black spores.
I guess really it only took 3 days.
Today...I've not yet looked at it, but I will when it get lighter outside.
I put mine on a dresser top in a spare room so it wouldn't get disturbed, and it got sunlight during the day through the window blinds.
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Post by fritolay66 on Nov 9, 2009 9:09:59 GMT -5
Okay, so sunlight then. It hasn't seen the sun.
Sid, my how time flies eh? My son is sixteen now and no worry, hehe, he won't even come near my microscope. If he were to find that, he would just gross out. Ah, the teen drama. Where does the time go.
Toni, thanks, between all the threads on mold, I can never find anything specific when I am looking for it.
Frito
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Post by toni on Nov 9, 2009 10:14:28 GMT -5
I've arranged this so it's easier to see. I actually put my specimens into the petri dish on Thur the 5th. Friday is pictured in the photo. Nothing seemed to be happening. Saturday, the growth was rapidly spreading on the bottom of the dish. Sunday (yesterday) oh...it was filled with fluffy cottony hyphae and dark spores. I'll get another pic of it today when the sun shines brighter. It looks pretty big today. Full of fluffy and it's turning yellowish, with a lot more spores. (ps, make sure you wear rubber gloves and a mask) when handling these cause they're loaded with spores.
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Post by ruth on Nov 9, 2009 11:38:32 GMT -5
my cultures grew better when i put them in a small box with the lid cut off and sat it on the top of the refrigerator towards the back. i think kammy suggested this and it works best for me with the culture growth. in the sunlight, the culture looks like it has sparkles because of the fluid filled cherry things............ what are they called again toni? i wanted to say when going thru my pics, i see the ones where i was trying to get their 'signature'. it looks zigzaggy. oops, looks like i deleted them. it looks like the balls up and down the shafts of some hyphae.
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Post by toni on Nov 9, 2009 11:56:36 GMT -5
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Post by bannanny on Nov 10, 2009 4:28:13 GMT -5
How's that person we both know and love doing Sid? I haven't talked to her in so long... I know she's always had a really tough time with this tho. Give her my love next time you talk ok? Been down again, so let me catch up here... I checked out the link you posted on page 3 Sid, to a pic of human skin cysts growing mold. Gross picture... but when I read the symptoms from exposure to indoor mold, it seems I have alot of them. I think we all do, right? The ones I have I highlighted in pink... If exposed to elevated levels of indoor mold, some or many residents and workers can experience one or more of most common, mold health symptoms: allergies, asthma, bleeding lungs, breathing difficulties, cancer, central nervous system problems, recurring colds, chronic coughing, coughing up with blood, dandruff problems (chronic) that do not go away despite use of anti-dandruff shampoos, dermatitis, skin rashes, diarrhea, and/or;
Eye and vision problems, fatigue (chronic, excessive, or continued) and/or general malaise, flu symptoms (chronic), sudden hair loss, headaches, hemorrhagic pneumonitis, hives, hypersensitivity pneumonitis, irritability, itching (of the nose, mouth, eyes, throat, skin or any other area), kidney failure, learning difficulties or mental dysfunction or personality changes, memory loss or memory difficulties; and/or Open skin sores and lacerations, peripheral nervous system effects, redness of the sclera (white of your eyes), runny nose (rhinitis) or thick, green slime coming out of nose (from sinus cavities), seizures, sinus congestion, sinus problems, and chronic sinusitis, skin redness, sleep disorders, sneezing fits, sore throat, tremors (shaking), verbal dysfunction (trouble in speaking), vertigo (feelings of dizziness, lightheadedness, faintness and unsteadiness), and vomiting. At the other link you left... I didn't even read to see if the cultured toxic air mold on Carnicom's site was identified or not... But when you said this toni... I'm not sure as to "why" Cliff would put a petri dish "outside"? (just my thoughts, and maybe I'm not thinking ...but of course there's everything imaginable in the air outside)... if there's "man made chemicals"...I could see that being of great importance, because then we're all exposed to that, but if it's "molds/fungi" then that is natural to be there.Well, I know morgs is very plentiful (it is here anyway) outside and inside the house too. So it's not neccesarily true that all mold/fungi is natural nowadays... especially since morgs is so abundant and we pretty much feel it's closer to being man-made than being something natural. What I mean is, I know whatever's growing in me is the same thing that's growing in my house and outside too. So as soon as I can get some more kits, I'm gonna use the environmental method on the inside of my house and do one outside too just to see what I end up with. I dunno, I just think it'll be pretty interesting. Nothing's normal anymore ya know? There's such a high contamination level around here, I can see why Cliff did what he did... and becuz of what's dropped by chemtrails too. I related to everything you said about the contamination in your house ruth. Whatever morgs is... it doesn't miss nothin! My teeth are decaying too frito... more like disintegrating actually. You sure put alot of stuff in one dish toni! I thought we were only supposed to culture one sample at a time, duh! When you took your pics, you had the lid off the dish right? I don't know how I'm gonna go about taking them like that cuz I sure don't wanna take the lid off mine. I'll explain why in a bit. I can't believe how amazing all of you guy's pics are tho! Oooops... I'm catching up on this thread page by page. Now I just read you have a pretty cool new camera too! So I sure hope mine will work good enough with the way my dish has become. Ok, as I continue to read this loooong thread, I just saw your pics taken at 72 hrs. toni... WOW!! I can feel the things just lookin at 'em! Those are the clear strands also living inside the hair shafts that come out the ends to play... I'd bet on it! Incredible, just incredible. Well shoot, now I'm confused toni (yet again)... you just said on that page, it all grew from only some tiny little salt granule size pickings out of your tunnel. But on the previous page you said you put too many different specimens in the dish to wanna send it to Pro Labs. Here's what you said there... And you'd asked if this petri dish I was going to send in. I was ...then I thought about it today, and realized ( I best get another one for sending in) because I've got too many things in this one):
I'd put in a couple of nose hairs, (ouchie)
tunnel pickings
2 drops urine (which that area *the 6 o'clock spot in the dish) grew nothing. I'm actually glad, or I'd be extra concerned.
Hairs cut short leaving the bulbs on after I pulled them from my head.
Gosh...I can't think of what else.So I'm confused now as to what yours is growing from exactly! Well jeany beany... as I've said before, asperguillis was identified as one of the molds found in my home. Do you think what's growing here so far is the common asperguillis... or could a mutated form of asperguillis be a part of the mix? Also, is it Asp Niger or Asp something else, do you know? I have to wonder sometimes if whatever morgs is, if it's something that actually has the capability to replicate everything and anything it comes into contact with ya know? I sure would like to see some "glitter" appear somewhere. I don't know if someone at MDR was talking about a strange looking fungus growing on their window frames too, but I posted the same thing on my "It's too much" thread... the one where I saw the grey/white cottony looking clumps on the bottom frames of each pane on the back door window. The stuff I spotted the "glitter" coming out of that ended up being the demon strand I've been searching for forever... remember? In fact I got so caught up in the strand, I forgot all about the cottony clumps, duh. I even cleaned the window afterwards... I'll have to see if it's coming back. Anyway, just wondering if maybe it was me you were thinkin of? Ok guys, about that dish of mine now... I haven't really looked at it close since I put the rolled out goo from my hands in it Saturday at 1:00 PM. I've been doin pretty bad again and well... I simply haven't wanted to look at it real good to be honest. All I can tell you tonight is the second I poured my specimen in Saturday after the liquid hardened, some of the specimens immediately shot up to the top of the lid (on the inside of course) and stuck right to it. I had to leave for town and by the time I got back I was a morg mess again (as usual) so I just glanced at it as I went by. But I noticed bubbles of moisture had collected around the pieces that shot up and attached to the inside of the lid now too. That's what I meant about not wanting to take the lid off toni. It looked the same today, but I still haven't even picked it up to look at it real well. I will tomorrow tho, and I'll take the best pics I can. Does anyone else have the gel get to a point where it gets so sticky you can rub it out? That's what I put in my dish. I took a pic of it just before I put it in and posted it here before I left for town. But it came out too blurry to see it very well... but it rolls out either white or cream colored and looks like a bunch of sticky slivers. I wonder what made the ones shoot up and attach to the lid the second I put it over the dish? I also wonder why there's bubbles of moisture around those ones now too.. any ideas? Well, I'm totally worn out and need to hit the hay (just what my bed starts to feel like lately once I'm in it too.) I'll be back with pics tomorrow... wanna say before I go that you guys are doin such amazing work, and taking some incredible pics! You're my heroes! love ya's ~~ bannanny
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Post by toni on Nov 10, 2009 8:39:40 GMT -5
This is the best way for me to describe this Bannanny. At different (clock times) is where I put the specimens - example: At the 12:00 mark - I put clear and colored fibers into the agar. At the approx 2-3:00 mark - are nose hairs and clipped head hairs that I'd plucked out and cut short to fit into agar. Approx 6:00 mark - I put in plucked white things that were sticking slightly out of my face. At the 9:00 mark - is where I placed two drops of urine with a disposable eye dropper. And in the middle are a few salt granule size specimens from within my facial tunnel lesion. That one is the one that sprouted the Rhizopus sp. The mold that grows cottony (like cotton candy) texture, and the spores that look like "black and clear cherries". See how the very beginning growth goes from the middle where the (tunnel specimens) are, have grown to the outside? That's because ( I think ) that is the side that was facing the window. I think it was growing "towards" the lighting outside. Just like a plant would "lean towards a window to get every bit of light it could". This mold seems by the way it grew to do the same thing.
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Post by toni on Nov 10, 2009 8:51:41 GMT -5
But when you said this toni... I'm not sure as to "why" Cliff would put a petri dish "outside"? (just my thoughts, and maybe I'm not thinking ...but of course there's everything imaginable in the air outside)... if there's "man made chemicals"...I could see that being of great importance, because then we're all exposed to that, but if it's "molds/fungi" then that is natural to be there. Bannanny said: Well, I know morgs is very plentiful (it is here anyway) outside and inside the house too. [glow=red,2,300]So it's not neccesarily true that all mold/fungi is natural nowadays... [/glow] Bannanny, I think this is where my comment wasn't understood. I didn't say (ALL mold/fungi) is natural nowadays. ( I said it's natural for mold/fungi to be outside. ) That's what I meant, hope that makes it make sense more.
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