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Post by lilsissy on Jun 27, 2010 19:42:07 GMT -5
Tom , I am here in an effort to see if we can find answers together. What happened to me was an attack on my person to stop my posting's. The persons attacking me should have started their own thread with the opposing point of view. If someone is smacking you in the face, it is good to turn the other cheek but if it causes you to stop working on your cause then turning the other cheek ,well it then hurts the cause. I felt I had to continue my research into the possible connection of Government cameras and sensor technology - to the morgellons wire I pulled from my leg and still feel that I was attacked to stop research into that possibility. I hope that his does not happen again and if I come under attack it will be recognized as I have never put anyone down on this board for any point of view they may have. I may question their finding's or disagree with them but I do not attack the character of the person or use put downs to accomplish goals. That is somethings trolls do and believe I was attacked by trolls in an effort to get me to stop posting but weather or not it was trolls..... no one should attack the character of another . It is O.K. to say your train of thought is wrong but it is not O.K. to attempt to brand another or use arguments to stop certain threads from continuing. They had the option to start their own thread but wanted to close mine by aggravating the Administrators. I did not do the attack but was attacked.
Jen
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Post by liatris on Jun 27, 2010 19:43:17 GMT -5
Hi Jen,
It is nice to see you back.
Very sorry to hear about your nephew, though.
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Post by kammy on Jun 27, 2010 22:54:57 GMT -5
Hi Jen, I'm sorry to hear about your nephew. I hope we get some answers soon. I'm glad you're back, we've missed you.
xxxooo - K
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Post by fritolay66 on Jun 28, 2010 0:13:59 GMT -5
Welcome back Lilsissy, I am glad you came back. My condolences for your nephew.
Frito
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Post by fritolay66 on Jun 28, 2010 1:00:33 GMT -5
Lilsissy and Freaky, this is for both of you. And I sure hope I can express myself without being misunderstood or labeled like the two of you are flinging around.
Do you have any idea of whom you are calling trolls? Do you even know who Eubie is? And what about Sidney? My gawd, she is so far from being a troll. Sid has been on this board since its inception. A troll? I should think not.
This is very hard for me. But I have two people I care about greatly, you lilsissy and Sidney. I like the both of you, for differing reasons, but the thing you both have in common is your caring for others, be it as it may if not for each other. So be it. But I cannot tolerate the bandying about of the most awful label you, being either you Freaky or lilsisy, that could possibly be put on someone in this forum.
Freaky, you also went through something like this? Then how come it is so easy for you to do it to another here.
Lilsissy, we wanted you to come back to this board as we care about you too. I care. But I will not participate in the labeling of others here as trolls simply because you all got your feelings hurt.
And as a bystander, I witnessed you lilsissy attack just as well and if not further than either of them. So Freaky, I don't know what you were watching unfold, but that isn't how I saw it. And others. Of which, because all this CRAP sounds so much like MDR, nobody wants to speak up because they don't want to hurt either of your feelings or Eubies or Sidneys. How dare the both of you continue to put others of us here in this most uncomfortable position and quite frankly, I am tired of reading about who said what and this and that.
Frickin gradeschool. Graduate.
Frito
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Post by jj on Jun 28, 2010 17:51:39 GMT -5
Please don't do this ................... please don't use the ones we loved and loss to make a point like this. Please don't use LB to publicly air conflicts this way. Keep it private and off this board. Try and resolve your differences like adults, face to face. Don't use this board and it's members to gather more knives to stab someone in the back. That, I resent, that I take offense to. That behavior is not wanted here. Notice ................. no names, just offensive behavior. Thank you JJ
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Post by freaky on Jun 29, 2010 3:07:25 GMT -5
Frito, I am sorry I expressed my personal feelings.. I meant only to explain how I was treated on a thread inappropriately. I promised myself I would not let this incident become a cancer to me, and just put it in God's hands, and pray for the person who did this to me. I had no idea I was still so rough around the edges.
I would like to apologize to you, and the group for my inappropriate post. I don't believe in name calling, & you were right Frito to be upset about that, plus everything else I am guilty of. That made me look so little, and I am ashamed I am guilty for something so appalling.
There's no excuse for my behavior, and unnecessarily sharing my feelings with the group.
Frito, I probably misunderstood, but I thought things were playing out to make it appear Lilsissy was incorrect in her analysis of her situation. I won't get into that though, as I said too much already.
JJ, I didn't think about the fact I was back stabbing at the time. I really lost it, and am guilty. I'm not known as the back stabber type, and I appreciate you bringing this to my attention.
I'm going to delete my post. It's not how I want to be remembered. I'm walking around with my tail between my legs, and I suppose time will tell if anyone had the heart to forgive me or not. I messed up, & I can't say much more. I hope I didn't upset you as well, Lilsissy. Sorry to all.
PS. I have no idea who Eubie is, although sometimes I forget names.
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Post by jj on Jun 29, 2010 9:23:29 GMT -5
“All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything. What we think we become.” Buddha
I'ts pretty sad when our thoughts take us places we can't comprehend fully for whatever reason, but it does happen to all of us. When for different reasons, people just can't see through anothers glasses a conflict of thoughts becomes a conflict of reason. A conflict of reason ................. well, the results should be clear in this instance.
“You cannot travel the path until you have become the path itself” Buddha
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Post by jeany on Jun 30, 2010 7:31:24 GMT -5
Dear Freaky, I remember your post and honestly I don't understand why you should feel the need to apologize for expressing your feelings although it might be uncomfortable for one or the other.
You're hurting and to say so is ok with me.
I personally believe in freedom of speech in an appropriate manner.
We need to feel that sharing our fears, sorrow and anger esp. in our situation and to find support and care in difficult times among eachother is without restrictions.
Jeany
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Post by fritolay66 on Jun 30, 2010 10:09:28 GMT -5
Actually Jeany, I don't feel it was your place to make a comment especially in light that you had not prior to what has occured here. And you know I absolutely like you.
Freaky,
I didn't comment until now simply because I was absolutely disgusted. I don't have a problem with sharing feelings. I do have a problem with calling others on this board trolls. And I really don't think you realized whom Jen was refering to as trolls on this board, otherwise I really doubt if you had, you would not have been so quick to jump on that ship. I also have a big problem in referencing the ones we have lost and cared about when they themselves are no longer able to comment. And I felt your apology would of been more appropriate had you have not tried to once again justify what you think happened. It would have appeared more genuine, atleast to me. In light that you most likely didn't realize whom were being referred to as trolls on this board, I also doubt your understanding of what has transpired over the last couple of months in reference to Jen's anger. I want to make very clear, in no way has she been derailed or attacked. It isn't what she posted but how. I don't think you saw any of that, how could you of if you didn't even realize whom were being labeled here with one of the most awful labels.
Soooo, after all that being said, I am not one to inherently hold a grudge, and although I personally, since your apology did name me specifically, I personally do not like to hold a grudge, and I really do give you some credit back as to your public acknowledgement by your apology. It shows me you are atleast considering part of what I have said. And thank you.
I apologize for being public, but enough is enough, and things were going downhill very rapidly. I don't usually air dirty laundry in public, but this needed addressing.
So enough has been said on this board about this particular subject. I will comment no further and neither should anyone else. Lets drop this and let this most awful thread die. In that manner, then Freaky, you won't have to see this reminder daily as you come here daily. You are a member here, and you are part of this family. Treat this board as you would your family. Value and be valued.
This thread should end now. Frito
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Post by jeany on Jun 30, 2010 11:31:27 GMT -5
Frito, my comment was directed to Freaky and I don't think it's for you to decide whether I do so or not. It was only pertaining to Freaky and her feelings and the right to express them.
What I said about support and care, was meant 'globally' as a meaning for what a support board is about from my point of view and was certainly not directed towards anyone directly.
Jeany
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Post by jj on Jun 30, 2010 12:13:30 GMT -5
Let's just try this for good measure. Can you look for ways these rules could of been applied in this instance (and others) that would of helped prevent some discord. They are there for a reason. Do you remember agreeing to abiding by these rules when becoming members here? Any dispute where feelings were hurt or people left the board there were rules and a structure in place to try to prevent that. Yet, feelings were hurt, people have been suspended, banned, and others have just up and left. We all can do something about this if we really want to. lymebusters.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=rules&action=display&thread=9132____________________________________________________________________________________ Avoid Personal Communications
Please refrain from exchanging personal communications that belong in a PM or email. Other people reading do not want or need to see these private exchanges, and it only takes up valuable space that should be used more productively.
We all love to insert jokes here and there and it's encouraged to relieve the stress that we all feel. However, jokes that everyone can appreciate are not the same as a personal conversation between a couple of people that clearly is relevant only to them. We deserve the right to delete all ongoing personal chit-chat that is not consistent to the thread topic or the board in general, should this become a clear and constant pattern of behavior.
A perfect example is a totally unrelated topic started between 2-3 individuals in which questionable language and thoughts were exchanged. Because it was posted on the board, others responded and tried to help with what they thought was a misunderstanding. Even though others had every right to respond to this public thread, they were told in essence to "butt out", that it was private and none of their business. At the very least this was an unnecessary comment, and all of the hurt feelings could have been avoided if the personal discussion had been left off the forum.
Bottom line is, please keep communications of a personal nature confined to the PM function; otherwise, they will either be moved to Off-topic or deleted permanently.
One last reminder: Please do not post on the boards that you have sent someone a PM and ask them to read it - people know to check their messages without you having to tell them. If everyone did this, imagine how much wasted space would be taken up with these personal messages that do not belong there.
Take Personal Agendas Off the Boards
Internet forums and message boards are for public discussions on specific topics which bear relevance to more than a few people. If you have a personal issue with someone else, take it off the forum and use either the PM function of the board or email that person. ______________________________________________________________________________________ Your personal feelings and personal disputes not dealing with Morgellons or Lyme can be resolved with out bringing them public on this board for audience participation and backing. If some of us still have problems with grasping this there is some really good information out there on resolving conflicts, listening skills and how it can be applied in an environment like this. I have found the topics quite helpful. Thank you for your consideration JJ This thread is now locked.
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