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Post by freaky on Jan 5, 2011 5:13:48 GMT -5
OK. Time's up for me. I'm infested, totally. I must have screwed up somewhere along the line, but I'm finding myself incurable, & progressively, & rapidly going down the drain. All the morgs on my neck continued to go upward , but instead of going to my brain, went straight to my eyes in every direction.
There's a line on my eyelids with morg habitation, or whatever one wants to call it. Of course when this happened, I tried to get them out. I got out some over a fourth of an inch. Must be now that I have broken pieces all over my eyelids, & under. They sting, hurt, make my nose run constantly. My lids are all wrinkled up, & I look like the bag lady from hell.
I tried Vick's which stung like crazy so I put more on, of course.
I have no idea what to do.
What do I do? My lids are like paper, I'd say.
Is it time for me to hunt a morg dr.?
What do I put on my eyes?
Do I not do anything, & think it will go away? NO. I knew that.
It's the chunks that hurt the worst, then long worm like things that go from one side of my eye to the other.
Has anyone ever had this problem?
Is there anyone who can help me?
Is there anyone who will help me?
I need help. I need guidance. My eyes look like road maps. Is Visine good for me? I'm out of it, but I'll get some. I'll wear a scarf over my head.
I'd complain more, but my eyes hurt too bad to keep them open. They're just slits now anyway.
Please help the decrepit.
Love, freaky
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Post by kammy on Jan 5, 2011 9:38:43 GMT -5
Hey Freaky... not sure what to say but to let you know that we're here. I think you need to find a doctor, go to the ER? No one is exactly sure what's going on with you so - it might be hard for us to comment? We know that you know a lot of the things to put on lesions and it sounds like you need something soothing... I notice my lesions do better if I cover them. Maybe make an eye patch with a cotton pad and tape (with something on it) for one eye while you're up and alternate them?
I'm sorry you're having such a rough time of it. (((hugs))) I'm just not sure what to say.
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Post by jeany on Jan 5, 2011 10:13:11 GMT -5
You poor thing! I don't know exactly what you could use to help but perhaps you want to try to put some quark or curd cheese (not sure what you call it) on a pad and tape your eyes with it. Best probably over night. Maybe the milk components such as the lactic acid will draw some out. Definitely soothing if nothing else. Another thing you could try is X-clear nosespray together with Colloidal Silver Nasal Spray. Spray once in each eye. Do this app. 3x daily, last at bedtime. Sounds weird I know, but it helped me and Kam rid morgs from our eyes. Hope you feel better soon. We're here for ya! Jeany
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Post by toni on Jan 5, 2011 10:18:14 GMT -5
As for the "eye balls" - if they're irritated and red and you mentioned in your post about using Visine.
I sure hate to see you going through this with your eyes, and all I can offer is what has completely worked for me regarding my eyes.
Just before I knew I had Morgs, I spent so many trips going to the eye doc and he saw nothing as he viewed my eyeballs with the most advanced equipment.
I tried all kinds of opthalmic scripted meds in them too. Nothing really worked great to where I had total relief, and Visine and Clear Eyes only irritated them moreso. (this is only my experience with this of course). The scripted eye meds worked okay, but not great, and they take longer time of use too.
Then I lathered up my sterile hands with a few drops of (Tearless Baby Shampoo) and water, and "blinked my eyes into my handful of bubbly SUDS, followed by clear cool water. It doesn't burn at all either, as it's formulated so a baby can tolerate shampoo getting into the eyes.
I found that the Johnsons and Johnsons TEARLESS baby shampoo worked better than anything I'd tried for my completely infected eyes - and nothing more.
You might want to try this (every 12 hrs, but no more) per day. More isn't better in any case (imho) as adding more products in the eyes will only create more or other problems.
I still use this "sudsy" wash for them and have for several years now, but only once a month is all I need for maintenance and that has kept them perfectly fine (as far as Morgs goes).
I first used the *suds* daily, then found that I could taper off to only a couple of times per week, then down to only now once a month.
If you try this please don't use anything else in the eyes, as more (applications of products is not beneficial) because the eyes are so delicate - and more is not better.
Maybe try this lathered up in your super clean hands, or with sterile gloves on, and blink into your handful of suds, *3-5 drops of tearless shampoo with water* which allows them to get a tiny bit of suds in them, - which is what you want, then rinse well.
I blink real fast, cupping my sudsy hands, because it just seems odd to blink into suds, and it's a bit scary at first blinking into suds...but, it's okay, there's no sting at all.
In fact, the water seems to irritate more than the suds. Afterwards, just close your eyes for a few mins, allowing them to moisturize themselves. No different than (swimming in a pool) with your eyes open, and that's actually more irritating than this is, (using the suds wash).
If you don't find relief or if you choose to see a doctor, the best thing I can "suggest" is ask the doctor if they can do a culture of your tears, or eye gunk stuff...and maybe they'll see that there truly is some bacterial or fungal (or both) problems going on in there.
I know with the equipment the doc viewed my eyes with, he couldn't see a thing that shouldn't be there, yet...I had white particles (triangular shaped) coming out.
In fact, that might really be the way to go to begin with, (seeing an eye doc) but if your doc is like mine was, (mine didn't help). So I hope you have better luck with yours than I did.
I don't know why the Tearless shampoo works so well, but it does, and to me, that's a great thing - (I'm sure it's one of the ingredients, but I don't know which one, and don't care, cause it works and that's all that matters at this point) - and it was such an odd reason of why I tried that to begin with.
I use to use vaseline on my eyelashes, and the next day I'd have one heck of a time getting all that grease off them, so I figured a TEENY bit of tearless shampoo SUDS only, would help remove that greasy'ness, and that's when I found that it TOTALLY rid ALL my eye problems, like the scratchy sand feeling in the eyes - which was soooo bad, and the inflamed blood vessels in them that caused them to be soooo red and sensitive to even light they were.
They were such a mess I can't even tell you. I had white things coming out of the eye ball themselves, and told the doctor I think there's glass shards in them that are pushing their way through too, because that IS what they felt like every day and I couldn't imagine what else those things could be. I could see 'opaque white things coming out' but he couldn't for whatever reason. I guess the same reason they can't see the lesions on the skin (is how they act).
So, of course he didn't see anything, it's like the docs I've been to are more blind than a bat-or they don't know how to handle this...but, they are no more (in my eyes), and they're clear and fine and have been for I think it's 4-5 years now - but that's because I do this sudsy wash with them "only one time a month for maintenance" anymore. If I didn't (which I get lax sometimes in thinking they're fine) the irritation *understatement* - cause it's more like *major eye problems* - will come right back.
*Morgs* doesn't leave imho, until we learn how to rid this garbage forever and completely...and some of us are infected in different areas of the body "it seems". So maintenance is critical to just keeping it at bay or tolerable where it seems to have settled in more.
I hope that can help you.
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Post by toni on Jan 5, 2011 10:32:55 GMT -5
And you know me...(the plain yogurt and milk mix)... boy, I never thought I'd mention it again, but here I go!
Use that (or try it) and it can't work overnight, as this stuff didn't get there over night either. Nothing is working instantly...so try and be patient. I'm sure not saying what you should do...(but, because you're having this problem it sounds like *also* around your eye area too, anything like menthol is going to burn and tear your eyes moreso if you get within an inch of your eyes with that stuff.
All I can "say"...is what has helped me, and I wish to God we knew exactly what would work, but we don't right now.
Any product I've used on my skin that is "irritating" to normal skin, seems to make the "stuff in the skin/morgs" more irritated, and that creates a mess beyond hell imho.
Gentle topicals (imho) are the best....especially around your eyes.
When I get a lesion or a bump (new one) on my skin, the milk/yog mix rids them within 3 days (IF) I keep the mix ontop of them. I have disposable lids from jars, or foil boats I make and keep the mix daily fresh in them. Just a tsp of plain yogurt with 1/4 tsp milk. That way, while doing anything, I can continually glob on more mix, as it's handy, already mixed up in a lid or foil.
As it dries on the skin, the skin will feel tight....but I'd rather have a bit of tightness than a new spreading lesion.
I just keep globbing more "mix" on...and before the week is over, the newly emerging morgs bump/lump is completely gone.
I have a new one right now (morgs bump) that is smack dab in the middle of my chest and if it were anywhere else I'd picture it daily to show how in 3 days, it will be gone completely because I'm globbing the mix on it. It must be consitently used...not washed off after a few hours. I know it's not purdy to have the mix caked and globbed on, but it's not as bad as Morgs.
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Post by kammy on Jan 5, 2011 10:34:40 GMT -5
"X-clear nosespray together with Colloidal Silver Nasal Spray"
Yes, good idea Jeany, I forgot about that. I had a Morg stick-like thing in my eye one time and I pump sprayed these two directly into my eyes and it was almost instant relief.
If you don't go to a doctor - go to the health food store and get these two pump nose sprays, Freaky. You just spray them and leave them alone...
And... Toni has some good suggestions too...
"I found that the Johnsons and Johnsons TEARLESS baby shampoo worked better than anything I'd tried for my completely infected eyes - and nothing more."
Like Toni says - the main thing is to do something gentle and soothing to allow them to calm down.
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Post by toni on Jan 5, 2011 10:47:52 GMT -5
Thanks Kammy, as you too might have Freaky's solution with the silver. And yes, in reading your post, I sure agree, that allowing them to calm down is what the eyes might be screaming for. It's worth a try for sure. I know each one of us can only suggest what has done the job for us individually. And mixing up "several protocols" doesn't seem to work. Trying "one at a time"....works best (imho). If something doesn't work after several days, then move on to trying "another" protocol. (when I posted about the wash, and saying nothing more) what I mean is (so everyone knows what I mean) is: IF one uses the baby shampoo suds wash...don't add anything to it. Just allow "that" to do it's thing. Sometimes I know "we" might want to try 10 things at once, but...it's best (imho) to give "each thing/product" a chance for several days, and if that doesn't work, then try something else. I guess all I'm saying is...don't mix the shampoo up with other products, thinking more is better, or trying 5 different things in one day. That's what seems to cause "a mess" more than what it was to begin with.
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Post by Administration on Jan 5, 2011 10:58:59 GMT -5
Freaky Your not a bag lady your the pizza lady I have had the problem that your having all along with my eyes although it is better now than in my full blown days its still remains the biggest morg problem I have To put it in perspective I think I would be near normal if it weren't for the eye thing and the foggy brain (insert fog horn sound here ) I've found myself that putting anything on or near your eyes can be disastrous and dangerous and of course make things worse What I do is when I first feel them congregating near the eye area I try to wipe them away with my fingers around the eye and the forehead head area with a little presser and sort of a squeegee action I can feel them pop when I get on them just right-- Sometimes this will avert a full blown eye episode but some times it does not The key to this helping is to get on them as soon as you feel them start to migrate its I've found that its usually too late once they have moved in and taken up housekeeping Another thing that i have found helpful is to wash your face with an exfoliating mitt paying attention to your forehead and your eye sockets --I don't have to tell you not to get soap in your eyes do I The last thing I would suggest is what I do when its gets really bad The use of heat seems to heard the critters away from the eye area and the face using a blow dryer set on high I hold it out from my face and move it around allot allot so it does not burn my eyelids off because thats no fun Sorta like if you were drying your hair--You really don't need to get your face that hot for it to work This can provide some good relief when it's really bad Please be careful if you use this method because I would not want my freaky to get hurt just remember if there is pain don't do it Normally would not post this because of the risks but I know what your going through big time
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Post by Carrie♥ on Jan 5, 2011 15:40:57 GMT -5
Freaky Your not a bag lady your the pizza lady I have had the problem that your having all along with my eyes although it is better now than in my full blown days its still remains the biggest morg problem I have To put it in perspective I think I would be near normal if it weren't for the eye thing and the foggy brain (insert fog horn sound here Ah that's fab to hear Daryl. I'm sorry Freaky Deaky. You can always try Boric Acid for eye issues. That's what always helped me. www.ehow.com/how_4899721_make-boric-acid-eye-wash.html
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Post by wlkthlne on Jan 5, 2011 16:14:38 GMT -5
Hey freaky, Totally a newbie to this site, first post is yours that I am responding to. I suffer with Lyme and it's co-friend Bart. The most effected by it was my eye's and head and feet. Some throbs and twitches here and there. For my red itchy eye's before I got treatment I tried a drop, of Colidial Silver in one eye only...afaid to do the unkown to both eye's, god forbid something happened. To my luck in less than 3 days it went away! The bad part, is I have read in other posts that for some the Silver did not help or they thought it made the Morgs worse??? I am with you, why the eye's of all places, why not some where else? I got my Silver from Messo...22ppm stuff...I have found it to help me with skin bumps, cuts, outside skin stuff...but that is me. Sure I don't need to tell you, gotta be careful what you use... best of luck in what ever you do... wlkthlne
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Post by bannanny on Jan 5, 2011 16:18:44 GMT -5
Oh freakers, I'm so sorry you're goin thru this! I've always got eye issues goin on too... but nothing that's become so extreme like it has in you. I ditto the Johnson's baby shampoo tho... it helps mine when they get bad too. I've also done the thing with a hair dryer like ant suggested... but another thing that helps my eyes is to go to the tanning beds and leave the eye covers off when I get in the bed. For some reason, it really helps push this stuff out of my eyes. My skin will even spark and crackle sometimes when I'm in there... and it reaaaaally helps my feet and hands alot too. However, I don't suggest doing that very often cuz we have to protect our eyes. But every time I go in, if my eyes are bothering me I simply lay there with my eyes closed (of course) but I don't use their little eyewear things to protect the lids and I'm so much better off when I leave!
Anyhoo, my first suggestion is the same as toni's with the Johnson's baby shampoo... it's pretty great stuff!!
love you girl ~~ bannanny
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Post by 22122agin on Jan 5, 2011 16:36:10 GMT -5
Oh, freaky, meant to tell you that Dermasils W product is not for around the eyes or in the eyes. You sounded like you have stuff on the eye lids too and not just the eyes. You might have to see more than one doctor but maybe a derm doc, just anyone to get the eye lid problem and they may send you to an eye doctor since I don't know what derm docs rules are as to how close to the eye they can treat. Hope you come upon it in your mind what might have made this condition come about. I am allergic to glutin, for example and it has only gottne worse in the last two years with lots of eye lid and eye problems when I indulge. Organic wheat is the worst and spelt is not much better. Any new bushes flowering in your area? Something else to consider seeing an allergist. Best, 22122
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Post by freaky on Jan 5, 2011 16:42:45 GMT -5
Lot of great info., some very interesting, & unusual. Just wanted to say thanks for now, & I'll write later. My eyes are killing me, & of course, every time I sit in front of the puter, I get a narcolepsy attack. So till later.......... Big hugs, freaky
Welcome wlkthlne, glad you're here, & you'll be glad too!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by bannanny on Jan 5, 2011 16:57:16 GMT -5
Hope you feel better girl... take that nice hot bath and then a little snooze. It always helps me to snooze anyway!
big huge hugs and smackers ~~ bannanny
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Post by Lynn on Jan 5, 2011 19:21:19 GMT -5
Hi Freaky
Sorry to hear your eyes are worse. Get well soon. If the other things do not work maybe do what I have been doing lately. Rarely have trouble with the eyes but the little I do. I use a eye wash cup with melt sea salt. Fairly heavy in it. I look down into the eye cup and blink and do eye exercise then the same for the other eye. I was told to keep them from digging deeper to Make a mix and refrigerate it. It shocks the bug into letting go instead of digging deeper.
In Light Lynn
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Post by freaky on Jan 6, 2011 2:09:23 GMT -5
Sorry to reply so late, but another tragedy occurred regarding my brother. It takes me forever to write a word, so I'll have to continue this tomorrow to thank you guys more for all your great insights. My brother went to the basket ball game last night, thinking he was fine. So far I have little information, & if what I say doesn't correspond with what I said last time, it's just because I didn't know anymore than I do now. What I think happened today was that Jeff was due for his follow up appointment at Brackenridge, the 2ND emergency hospital he had been transferred to, since they have better equipment. He went, & while he was there, he got extremely cold, & started complaining of feeling bad, & dizzy. Come to find out, all while Jeff was thinking he was doing well, his operation failed, his femur slipped out of the socket, & further damage was done. He had no idea until they told him. Obviously, this rarely happens. Probably due to the stress of this, blood clots were formed, but they're in his lungs. I guess that's the point, during their travels that they clotted? He is on blood thinners, & will go home tomorrow, continuing the blood thinners, & return in the middle of next week to be operated on. Just guessing about the clotting in his lungs. He's in excellent health. What else would cause the clots there? If anyone knows, don't spare my feelings. I'm just praying till I find out more tomorrow. Morgellons keeps me in a rather dull frame of mind. I never cry anymore. I did for a moment though tonight, but it didn't help my eyes. I think it's extremely strange not to cry. Anyway, thank you again, please pray, & I'll keep you updated. I need to go to sleep so I'll be awake if I need to. Love, freaky I forgot to post this about 6 hours ago. Ah ddduuuuhhh
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Post by awareseattle on Jan 6, 2011 8:29:44 GMT -5
I would try the plain yogurt and milk idea and the colloidal silver idea. Also if possible I would go to an eye doctor and tell him you "have something in your eye". And see if he sees anything...would be interesting. We all know this stuff is visible with a microscope.
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Post by bb on Jan 6, 2011 8:58:01 GMT -5
Freaky, the colloidial silver helped me a lot. Also, use vaseline on your eyelashes, then gently wipe it off taking some of "them" in the process. Zapping helped my eyes the most though! I could feel them jumping like a flea as they made their way from the back of my eyes to the front. They wanted out of there. I bought my zapper at zap.intergate.ca/. Also, Sulfur8 shampoo in my bath has made a big difference. You can buy it online at Walgreens. Many of their stores no longer have it on the shelf. Please see the PM message I sent you at the top of this page. Hang in there, YOU CAN TREMENDOUSLY REDUCE THIS SCOURGE! I am not cured, I still have symptoms but it is nothing like the beginning of this hell. My story will be airing very soon on Discovery, I will post the date as soon as I know when. At the end of my story, they show me saying that I have reduced my symptoms some 97% by doing many alternative therapies. These are all included in the PM.
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Post by Lynn on Jan 6, 2011 13:56:30 GMT -5
Hi BB
Thrilled you got to do the Discovery channel. Do you know what they will title that episode. I can hardly wait to watch it. Slowly slowly we will be seen. Also glad to hear about the Sulfar 8 shampoo. There are times I need a back up when I run out of the expensive stuff. I think I will keep that on hand.
My hot spot is my dang bed. Even though I have little to contend with sense Aug. of 2009. It still gets me down when I get a set back. This time worms. From my bed onto my body head to toe. Been using Sea Salt water for eyes, but did the collidal silver this morn. It worked great. Cold water to shock them into letting go instead of them digging deeper. Want to ask how you use the zapper to get them out of the eyes? Is it dangerous? Thank you for any info on that.
In Light Lynn
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Post by Lynn on Jan 6, 2011 14:02:26 GMT -5
Hi Freaky
I will pray. So sorry about your brother.
In Light Lynn
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