Questions:
Toni:
Interesting. You got total relief from just taking Ivermectin?
Did any of your symptoms ever return, and if so, how long did it take for any to return, and which symptoms?
What dose (mg) and how long a course of Ivermectin, and any other supplements along with it?
Did you each time take it with a full glass of water, Vit C, etc?
Warrior:
What about those who have NO lesions? Please expand on your comments with regards to those Morgellons patients with lesions and those without lesions.
What about those Morgellons patients who have had many months of doxycycline Tx, but seen only temporary improvement?
A comment, and please respond, any who wish (thank you)
1. I am certain, absolutely, that my 10 day course of equimax cured my symptoms, and did not just temporarily relieve them because I had no symptoms at all and felt perfectly well for 60 days after the course -until I got bit by another "something" in more clothing given to me by the same person who came home from visiting Germany with Morgellons symptoms.
2. This vector needs to be found/identified, and a way to avoid re-infection.
3. Anybody know anything about Taurox, an immune system modulator? (ISM's may be helpful to us possibly).
Hi White Rabbit.
You asked in yellow:
Interesting. You got total relief from just taking Ivermectin?Yes...not 100% but I will say as accurately as I can,
97-98% (now that's from my lesions) I experienced.
Did any of your symptoms ever return, and if so, how long did it take for any to return, and which symptoms?
Yes, I'll explain as best I can.
I took (Stromectol) which is people Ivermectin for 6 months
straight, (never) missing one day. I took 5 pills a day, that
were 3mgs each.
My lesion count "prior to taking Ivermectin/stromectol" was
factually 80 to 100 or more brand new itching sores "every
two weeks".
Just as soon as the breakout batch occured, and as the days
went by, they'd (clear up) after I applied topicals, and they'd
dry out.
Now this entire process of getting them to go away took
almost the 2 weeks for there to be absolutely no sign that
they ever existed.
Then just as soon as that new batch was totally cleared,
red spots gone, everything gone, it was then again the two
week mark and again I broke out in another brand new
batch of intense itching lesions.
This went on for over a year (every two weeks like clockwork)
the breaking out.
When I got and took the stromectol/ivermectin, it all stopped.
Then every two weeks while taking the med, I might get maybe
2 or 4 new lesions. Which believe me, was nothing in
comparison to what I had been having to live with.
I then realized (from marking all this down on each calender
of every month) that there was a great consistency to my
breakouts, as well as marking down "when others were
more symptomatic".
A total obvious cycle there was and is "imho" as I've
always said.
I then did not want to continue (for the sake of chemical
compounds in my body) didn't want to continue drugs/meds.
So, because I knew of the "cycle" of the breakouts, is when I
decided to try something a bit different. Sort of my own little
experiment since I had nothing to lose except "less meds".
I reduced my Stomectol/ivermectin to 'only taking 3 pills per day
and ONLY for 3 days in a row, *twice a month* and in
doing so *only* during a full and new moon phases during
each month - since those were the exact timings of my
breakouts before ever taking Stromectol/ivermectin.
I got the same exact relieve as I had when I took them every
day - and yet my dose was so much less and only 6 days per
month total. So I was thrilled more than I can express.
I went from a *total* of taking 150 Ivermectin's per month
which was taking 5 pills a day for every 30 days to
taking 3 pills for 3 days in a row, twice a month.
And all because I used the "breakout cycle to be my guide"
of "when to take them".
I worked with the "lunar cycle as wild as that sounds".
But in all reality, it's not odd.
Every cell of life is dictated by gravity influctions.
So, that locked it up for me and my thoughts on "the lunar
cycle" and of course that's "my opinion" but, it holds water
if anyone wants to keep track, they'll see too.
So by taking a "cytokine calmer- as I believe is how they've
affected me and my lesions from this contamination/infection
- and have seen for myself - it worked.
I then "got to the point of not even wanting to rely on
Ivermectin/stromectol" or needing to have it - so
I incorporated lots more supplements into my daily regimen.
I got off the stromectol/iver and haven't had any in several
years now, and I'm not saying I don't get any itching lesions
today, because I do, but it's so minimal (just like when I took
the full strength of Ivermectin) which is only a few here and
there - and that I'm okay with in how I'm handling it and
ALL with "supplements" pine barks and teas supplements because
it's really not anything different than when I took
the max doses of meds and took them daily.
So...there it is, the pine barks and teas supplement ARE
giving me the same relief from new breakouts as I'd gotten
from taking major doses of meds daily .
It's not the cure...and so far who knows what the real
"rid this stuff cure is"....but until that's revealed, I feel
confident and safe by taking supplements instead of
body polluting meds. Not that meds are a bad thing,
I'm not saying that at all, but for "me"...I'd rather not
take meds if I can help it, and I am helping it.
I'm helping my body keep strong the best I can, and
I feel that's the best thing I can do under the circumstances
as we all do what we feel is the thing to do to try and help ourselves till we learn what really to do.
Something else I would like to share. (and of course this is
only from my experience if that would help anyone or not,
maybe, maybe not).
But, for me, I don't have Oncho. Why I feel also confident
about saying that is because "if" I had Oncho - the recommended
dose of Ivermectin is 2X per year - to the best of my memory.
And my Pine Barks and Teas would not be giving me the same
relief from breakouts as the Ivermectin use to.
And...I could see by my doses of Stromectol, that each
month that I'd have a break out - that "had I not taken it" -
I'd have broken out like a person let stuck in a room with a
million mosquitos. Here's how I can say that.
That was shown to me "when I stopped taking Stromectol"
when I quit at the 6 month mark. I broke out like Morgs was
just beginning, all those brand new itching burning watery
horrid lesions I got just a few days after stopping.
Because the following months, "when I did the trial 3 day
run with them" had I not....I'd have had new lesions. I would
"do what I called peek a boo's" which was "not taking the
stromectol"....just to see if anything "was gone" but it wasn't.
Never did anything go away, for me, it was only a case of
symptoms being calmed, or masked.
If mine were Oncho, I'd not need "Stomectol" every month
as I should have been able to wait for several months before
I'd need another dose, if mine was Oncho. But that's not how
it displayed itself. It was easy to see...the lesions came
every two weeks, so that's when I needed to address it.
One last thing, "are teas and barks" cytokine calmers?
I sure wouldn't know. And in fact I've sort of stopped
questioning why something is working, meaning, I use to
torment myself with "why's"....like why is this or that doing
this or that. Not that that isn't "how I've evolved to this point"
because that is the ONLY way one can get where they need
to be. But I've "found my peak" where my symptoms are
very much under 95% of my control, after ga-trillion trials
of so many things...and why really these supplements are working,
I don't know, but they are "in helping me survive"
which is all they're doing.
I'm not cured by any means, I know this stuff lurks
so badly it's frightening - I have the occassional few breakouts
the headaches, the colored fibers and specks and all that too,
but, I'm not being driven insane like I was with all those sores
and itching like I had a triple case of measles anymore.
You asked also about water and vitamins.
Yes, I've always been a big fan of supplements/vitamins.
I take many different kinds, and Vit C too 1500 mgs a
day (broken up into 500 mg doses 3X a day).
Sometimes I miss a dose here and there, but not usually.
I drink so much fluids a day too, (every day) you'd think
I'd float away by now, hahhaha
I am never without drinking "club soda" or iced tea or juice,
as I carry it from room to room with me and I guess if I were
to say how much, approx 1 or more gallons per day of fluids
I drink.
I want my cells 'washed and cleaned daily' is how I try and
look at things to help me keep doing what I need to do for them
because it's a job and a half to keep it up. And by the time
the day is over, it's just time to do it all again. It's no life, it's
only imho, about preservation at this point in time.