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Post by toni on Dec 13, 2011 9:21:42 GMT -5
This is what I found today... I had a small pimple near the breast.. so I dug into and pulled this out. Under the microscope inside the sack was balled up little fiber. Two of them. If you look hard ( the middle of big side of sack in a clear thing stuck to the outside of it) After viewing it I tried with a tip of needle to open it but it had hardened and flew everywhere. lost it .. but here's what I got. Now this is INCREDIBLE Simone, and thank you for getting such a picture of this. THIS is it! The mites live inside this thing (exactly) what Simone has posted here. Now here's the MOST bizarre thing I've ever seen happen with these "cone shaped things" that are here in this picture. These move. And they will go right into the skin like a hot knife cuts through butter. Simone, I have had many of these, and wish I'd of taken pictures. The very last one I saw was over a week ago, and it was going right into my upper thigh, and on it's way into my skin (half of it sticking out of my leg) and the other half of it was right under my skin, and I took a needle and got it out. It was so odd just going in on an angle too, and it only took a few seconds and it was almost all the way in my skin, so I had to hurry or it would have been "in under the skin". Immediately I put it under the scope with a drop of water on it. Then I pressed it with a needle every which way, all while it was under magnification. Out came Demodex mites. They're so tiny, you've got to look closely, because they are there. I've been beyond puzzled wondering how this "cone shaped housing, cocoon, or whatever that thing is" and wondering "how that can penetrate the skin, but...it does.
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Post by simone on Dec 13, 2011 18:10:10 GMT -5
Toni when I looked at it.... it looks just like one pice of fiber but infact there is two, Under the microscope each had layered rows of one fiber going back and forth to make it look like a thick strand of fiber.
I'm gonna try get some hard evidence... seeing this one got away on me ... I'll keep looking and hook up my other microscope to the computer. It seems now that I'm seeing more and more fibers with a ball at the end like a big head.... never seen that before but there is definitely a change in the fibers as to in the begining
Skizit ... I have seen clear white fibers with spots of red in it...like it was going to become a red fiber. Yes and maybe the odd blue... mostly red.
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Post by skizit on Dec 13, 2011 21:51:13 GMT -5
The best test for finding fibers is with a product called OXY cleasing pads. They are round very potent pads. Just pick an area you want to test and rub one pad back and forth on that area, say, one arm. Using your microscope, look on the pad for the fibers. They grab everything they meet on your skin. You will find blue, red, white, blue, purple, all of them. Colors are used to identify specimen and I'm thinking the colors are someone's ID system. the real nasties are in the fiber, the spores.
They dissolve the pod-like things into a lake of goo which I think is a good thing. They kill the bacteria in your skin too. Go over EVERY INCH OF YOUR BODY using a different pad, even the private parts.
They populate the hair follicles. It may hurt down there but its only because its killing the bacteria. After a few minutes and the second application, it won't hurt.
This will tell you just how polluted your body is with the fibers. They will be in the clothing too. You can wash your clothes in mustard and then wash them regularly and use one of those roller things to get the fibers off your clothes. You might just want to throw your clothes away and get something new to keep clean.
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Post by Lynn on Dec 14, 2011 16:03:13 GMT -5
Hey Toni Still using the mustard. I had to amp it up today and accidentally burned the skin, but less trouble with mites. Also try every week or every other week to shave legs and underarms. I found the shaving cream suffocates them and dries out their little bodies so I will use a thin layer of menthol flavored shave cream head to toe. In ears, nose and privates also. Then I will shave under arms and legs and at times have to add shave cream if any air holes appear. This helps give some relief. Going to have to add back more vinegar. Might look for vinegar tablets so I will not have to taste the vinegar if I decide to take internally. Wonder if that will work so I will not have to use so much on body. Mustard kills...Yeah and there was much rejoicing. (Mighty Python Way) In Light Lynn
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Post by skizit on Dec 14, 2011 22:36:15 GMT -5
torpedo, the mites are only part of the problem and I'm glad you are having relief with the mustard. the arthropods inject fibers in the skin and they are also in the pods. Be sure and kill the bacteria in the skin because it generates more fibers. Its the bacteria that is going to do the bad stuff, the mites are only the carrier.
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Post by ibzahp on Dec 15, 2011 1:00:31 GMT -5
so i am coming into this conversation late. sounds like the mites are a huge piece of the puzzle. I am badly infected as i have had this since 2000 so oxy pads and mustard ? if anyone would like to pm me w/info i would be much obliged.
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Post by toni on Dec 15, 2011 10:51:24 GMT -5
Lynn, that's great you're having success. The thing about the mites are - new batches (eggs hatch) every so many days, so there's a constant new population of them coming out of the pores "until they're all killed off" eggs and all.
So one could get worse "before they get better" I read too. The reason is, as they die off (they decompose in the skin) and that too will cause skin erruptions, but, at least you're getting them.
The key is to stay ontop this all day long. Washing, then applying "mustard or tea tree oil base creams/lotions" so that when the Demodex come out of the pores (which they do to mate) - you want to kill them off too. So if you have the 'mustard cream or tea tree cream on' that will take care of ridding those ones too.
This has to be done daily, or the new mites will just lay more eggs in the skin.
I read too that just as Skizit said that the bacteria sure is brought in by them as that's very possible, and then that bacteria takes hold and then becomes a secondary problem. Like staph, and bacillus. I'm sure there's more varieties, so keeping that in mind - and not using the same bath towel or sheets (so you don't reinfect) is also so important.
I'm getting a good handle on this too (I think)...so far so good anyways.
And vitamins (as usual) to boost the immune is so important. Also - vinegar is very good for the digestive tract, and great for keeping the body alkalined inside too, which are beneficial.
It's hard to drink it plain, I couldn't, but on cucumber slices, it's yummy with oil and salt and pep.
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Post by Administration on Dec 15, 2011 12:08:05 GMT -5
It's hard to drink it plain, I couldn't, but on cucumber slices, it's yummy with oil and salt and pep. I agree vinagar is vary good for you I have a really good book on the subject called the healing powers of vinagar by Cal Orey cucumber slices in vinagar and oil my favorite ----It's way too yummy
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Post by xiblanque on Dec 15, 2011 13:10:38 GMT -5
By raising the body's ph we can help combat the growth of bacteria, fungi and other pathogens. This may help deter the mites that are associated with these other issues. morgellonsaid.wordpress.com/diet-nutrition-2/apple-cider-vinegar-drinks/Apple Cider Vinegar I believe that apple cider vinegar is probably the best (and cheapest) detoxifier for the body. Organic raw Apple Cider Vinegar can be used as a daily drink to change the bodie’s ph from acidic to alkaline. Morgellons appear to thrive in an acidic ph environment. White vinegar has been distilled and processed and is NOT the vinegar to be used in these recipes. Apple cider vinegar is an exception: unlike almost every other vinegar, it has an alkaline ash and improves pH by making the body less acidic. The body’s pH is at an ideal theoretical pH 7.35 – 7.5. Apple cider vinegar is more potent than lemon juice, but still a gradual way to reestablish healthy pH in the body. Organic raw apple cider vinegar has the “mother” culture floating in the bottle. This is the only vinegar recommended for the following recipes. Recipes for Apple Cider Vinegar Drinks Honeyed Apple Cider Vinegar Tonic •1 – 2 teaspoons of raw Apple Cider Vinegar •1 – 2 teaspoons raw honey or grade A maple syrup •8 oz of filtered water. hot or cold Combine in a glass. Sip rather than gulp. May be taken two or three times daily. Apple Cider Vinegar Lemonade •2 – 3 teaspoon of raw Apple Cider Vinegar •Fresh squeezed juice of 4 organic lemons •Stevia, raw honey (preferably Manuka honey) or grade A organic maple syrup to taste •1/2 teaspoon or 3 – 4 capsules of powdered cayenne pepper •crushed or cubed ice from filtered water •16 oz of filtered water Combine in a quart pitcher and serve in glasses. Sipped. May take two or three glasses daily. Apple Cider Vinegar & Thieves’ Oil •1 – 2 teaspoons of raw Apple Cider Vinegar •1 or more oz filtered water •2 drops Thieves essential oil blend (optional) The Thieves essential oil blend (containing clove, cinnamon, lemon, eucalyptus, rosemary) gives the vinegar an extra immune-boosting kick. It also improves the flavor. Taken first thing in the morning, on an empty stomach, by combining in a small glass. Herbs & Cider Tea •1 tablespoon of raw Apple Cider Vinegar •1 – 2 small garlic cloves (may use garlic tincture) •1 tablespoon of honey (preferably raw Manuka honey) •1 tablespoon of fresh lemon juice •6 oz of a hot tea such as green tea, herbal tea or even chai tea. •Optional: cayenne, ginseng, gingko biloba, goto kolo, etc. These ingredients are meant to be mixed into the hot tea. It is not meant to be taken as a shot. Can be taken once daily. Two or three times daily if coming down with cold or flu. I prefer using hot chai. Apple Cider Vinegar & Sodium Bicarbonate •1 – 2 teaspoons of raw Apple Cider Vinegar •1 teaspoon of Baking Soda (aluminum free only) •8 oz of filtered water Combine in a glass and sip – do not gulp. This is especially good for those people that suffer from poor tooth enamel. The baking soda slightly buffers the apple cider vinegar before it is consumed. Taken once daily. Taking apple cider vinegar on an empty stomach may cause a sensation of slight nausea. It is a recommendation to not eat for a short time after taking a.c.v. Usually ten minutes will suffice. If the nauseous feelings persist or are strong you can eat immediately. Building up Alkaline Reserves A neutral pH of 7 is the perfect balance of pH. However an excellent target pH of 7.5 is more preferable to maintain proper health. The body needs these reserve buffers to neutralize any emergency when the acid levels are too excessive. These buffers are nutritional minerals such as calcium, magnesium, potassium and sodium. These reserves are especially important to maintain when one’s diet is acid forming, the immune system is weakened or when fighting off infection or disease. Why Raw Organic Apple Cider Vinegar? This natural non-toxic unprocessed food has medicinal properties as well as detoxing properties. It has antibiotic and antiseptic properties that also aid in the detoxing process. The most important quality that it possesses is the alkalizing effect it induces in the body. It also is very effective at breaking up and dissolving the biofilm of mucous and pathogens that may be lining the G.I tract. It is an effective and useful agent for good health. Acidic pH Balance Will Discourage Bacteria, Yeast & Fungal Growth The acid nature of the digestive tract when suffering from chronic acidosis is a breeding ground for many different pathogens. These parasites, bacteria, viruses, fungi and biofilms are able to thrive under these conditions. They consume nutrients from the food one eats and may also block the proper absorpion of nutrition needed by the body. Left to thrive these pathogens have a cummulative effect across the whole immune system. Some may even become systemic and cause ill health in other parts of the body. Correcting the pH of the body with A.C.V. and an alkalizing dietary change will clear and prevent further these issues. Concerning Potassium Potassium is crucial for the body to maintain proper health. Potassium is used to assist the body in new growth of cells and tissues. This is true for replacing injured cells and tissues also. Raw unfiltered natural apple cider vinegar is an exceptionally high content source of potassium. Other Uses It is also used in many topical treatments of lesions. It is one of the liquid ingredients used in bentonite clay poultices which draws out impurities and toxins from the lesion and aids in healing and preventing infections. It is flavorful and can be used in preparing salad dressings and dips that have an added nutritional value such as live enzymes, potassium, phosphorus, natural organic sodium, magnesium, sulpha, iron copper, natural organic fluorine, silicon, trace minerals, pectin and other powerful nutrients. It helps settle upset stomachs as it aids in digestion of proteins. It has many useful aspects to it and is often the missing ingredient in many instances. Warning: A.C.V. is acidic and drinking it often without buffering it with bicarbonate of soda or without drinking it through a straw may cause enamel damage of the teeth. Another method to prevent this is to simply add 1/2 teaspoon of bicarbonate of soda (baking soda) to 4 ounces of water and using this as a gargle/rinse after drinking A.V.C.Xib
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Post by Harry on Dec 15, 2011 16:39:15 GMT -5
what if you can't do citrus or cider because of the acid?? Xib nice health post
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Post by jo on Dec 15, 2011 17:20:59 GMT -5
Hi Toni - great work as ever with the videos on dermodex. If the egg sacks are sooo small, I wonder about the ease at which they maybe able to take flight! I've been contacted by an Irishman with some great shots and journey detailed on his website: www.delusionalinsects.com/It's like we know a lot of the puzzle pieces but cant make a picture yet. Merry Christmas to everyone here Jo
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Post by toni on Dec 15, 2011 18:09:53 GMT -5
Hi Toni - great work as ever with the videos on dermodex. If the egg sacks are sooo small, I wonder about the ease at which they maybe able to take flight! I've been contacted by an Irishman with some great shots and journey detailed on his website: www.delusionalinsects.com/It's like we know a lot of the puzzle pieces but cant make a picture yet. Merry Christmas to everyone here Jo Hi Jo, good to see ya and thank you. The site you posted is great. Those hairs (look just like what I have with the little "sac" thing attached. Inside those "sac things" ONLY if the hair is plucked and immediately put into water, then onto the scope slide, then pressed with a needle while watching under the magnification, theeeeen....oh then he'll see, the demodex will squeeze right out of those pod sac things. Maybe we have a new species? From what I've also seen are "my floaties" are demodex as they shed their skins, because they molt. The little tiny white specks that hover or float upwards, are "ionic'ly" charged...either by "nature" or by just the movement of us. That probably doesn't make sense the way I wrote it, but, it's like rubbing a balloon on our head, or shuffling our feet on the carpet, we then generate static, and the negative and positive ions present.... I've seen are what cause the floaties to hover or float. Hope that makes sense. And of course this is only my observations of what I'm seeing. PS, Hi XIB - (EXCELLENT) ways to use vinegar, and thank you for posting that. Can't go wrong with good ole mother natures apple cider vinegar, as our body really REALLY needs this. Another PS (Hi Harry) Citrus and vinegar, I understand what you mean about the acid. See...in citrus (things like OJ) cause acidity, yet lemons are very different because once their eaten they cause alkalinity. Same with apple cider vinegar. Topically it's highly acidic. But....once it's taken internally, it causes the body to alkaline.
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Post by toni on Dec 15, 2011 18:26:46 GMT -5
Jo...please see this, it's exactly like your Irish friend with the pictures and site. This is sort of a sloppy video (my slide) under the scope was a frenzied picked mess, but...you'll see the same exact "pod/sac thing" on a hair I plucked out of the side of my temple area, and inside that pod thing, are Demodex. The pod/sac thing is approx the size of a period at the end of these sentences, and inside, live the demon's, I mean the Demodex. Watch this: tinypic.com/player.php?v=23hnc0k&s=5
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Post by toni on Dec 15, 2011 18:53:47 GMT -5
Side by side of my picture and your friends. Jo, I took a "still picture out of my video in the above link" which is the sac thing on a short clear hair just like your friends. I'm pressing down on it with a needle and out come the critters.
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Post by toni on Dec 15, 2011 19:54:48 GMT -5
This is VERY VERY informative. We know how "bacteria" produces or "can" produce (colored pigments) and actually of just about any color under the sun too. When you read this, it's absolutely MIND BLOWING because this explains how "just two different bacilli" sense each other, and turn red. The linear chains of bacillus are extremely sensitive to sensing or smelling "another bacilli" in it's presence. Interesting to say the least. classic.the-scientist.com/news/display/57622/From link: Bacteria have a sense of smell, which they may use to sniff out competitors and food sources, according to new research published this week in Biotechnology Journal. A study led by Reindert Nijland, now at the University Medical Center in Utretcht, The Netherlands, found that Bacillus bacteria can sense each other's presence through the air by sensing ammonia production. "This is basic science that's really, really interesting because if bacteria can really smell, that's something unexpected," Nijland told The Scientist. Although researchers had known that bacteria could sense the presence of ammonia, "this is the first time it was shown that a gas is sensed for the purpose of regulating social behavior," said Jörg Stülke, a microbiologist at the University of Göttingen in Germany, who did not participate in the study. Nijland, then a post-doctoral fellow in the lab of Grant Burgess at the Dove Marine Laboratory at Newcastle University in the UK, was originally trying to figure out how different growth media affected the biofilm-forming abilities of Bacillus subtilis and B. licheniformis. Trying to save valuable lab space, Nijland set up several different experiments in the two Bacillus species on the same 96-well microtiter plate. On the left side of the plate, Nijland grew his bacteria in a nutrient-rich broth, while growing the same bacteria on the right side in media that encouraged them to form the sticky, slimy matrix of sugars and other compounds known as a biofilm. He assumed that the bacteria would not affect each other since they were physically separated. As Nijland continued his experiments, he noticed something strange. The Bacillus species grown in biofilm-friendly media nearest the wells with the bacteria grown in nutrient-rich media formed larger biofilms that had a darker red pigment. As the bacteria in the biofilm-promoting media got farther away from the bacteria in the nutrient-rich media, the characteristic red pigmentation of Bacillus biofilms began to fade, indicating lower biofilm formation. Since the bacteria were not physically connected to each other, Nijland could only conclude one thing: The Bacillus must be sensing the presence of the nearby bacteria through the air. Those bacteria growing in nutrient-rich media seemed to be producing some sort of signal that could be sensed by bacteria growing in a biofilm-promoting media .....
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Post by skizit on Dec 16, 2011 0:51:53 GMT -5
Toni, i read some studies on the B. Subtilis where they used Alexa Flor dyes. I looked its mfg and found Invitrogen. The colors we are seeing must be engineered into the reproductive cycle. the color must be part of the living process. Here are Invitrogen's colors. They come from bacteria, mushrooms, sea life, etc. www.invitrogen.com/site/us/en/home/References/Molecular-Probes-The-Handbook/Technical-Notes-and-Product-Highlights/The-Alexa-Fluor-Dye-Series.htmlLike the GlowFish that became the first transgenic colored pet sold, I think the bacteria we are looking at in Morgellons may express the genes of another organism which means we are looking at transgenic bacteria, with each color representing some genetic alteration, different strains or organism designed to serve its own unique pathogenic purpose. The inventor/creator would know its identity by its color. I read other info that said colored pigments can determine the potency of the animal, making something toxic even more toxic. I.e., the colors may be used for a mechanical effect.
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Post by Lynn on Dec 16, 2011 11:09:16 GMT -5
Hey Toni
When I first started getting sick we lived in a farm house that had septic, mold, and gas issues. I think the toxic soup along with bug bombing to keep down flea population. We had indoor pet cats back then. I think that is how I got the hyper toxicity that then led to the break down of health issues and let Morgellons in. I can remember just before moving taking a tiny broken piece of bug off my scalp which back then had very small non-healing sores. It looked like a deer tick, but I sloughed it off sense I had not been in any forest, but our landlords son who we went to high school with lived in a forest and would come out twice a year to clean peoples chimneys.
He would use our wash machine to wash his laundry and wonder if I got a hitch hiker from his laundry back then.
Okay this is a question I have. During that time my hubby would periodically have an Ammonia type smell come off him and even worse out of his lungs. Shortly after a few years of this going off and on in cycle he got bronchitis and was so sick he missed to much work and lost his job. After living on antibiotics and never getting rid of what he had and each prescription was stronger then the next. He got scared and asked me to take over. After I got him well he quite smelling like Ammonia. He also would smell like pancake syrup and it did not really smell good when it would come off the body. Have not smelled that off of him anymore either. Ever sense we moved into this smaller farm house we rent from another high school friend. But during the pre bug era of my disease I would start smelling that ammonia smell off my breath of areas that should have sweated off and on. I wonder if this was toxins my body was trying to burn off or the mold growth itself. Back at the first house I could remember feeling like a spider off and on all the time when in a dark room landing and or moving across the hair. Also the crawling worm over the outer face up into the eyes back then, but it was so far spaced I easily sloughed it off as hair movement and or fleas which were really low key most of the time because I was so adiment about staying on top of it. Drove everyone nuts.
Then our 3 year hear is when the bugs hit hard head to tow when this place became sorely infested with fleas and we had no pets. The day we won our flea battle and I have never seen or felt a flea sense then was the same day I was hit my the hookie crawler and the wispy crawler and the stabber bugs. The Potato Bug which is a horrific looking creature eats mites and they appeared in numbers in my home right before I was hit head to toe.
I wonder if the Ammonia smell that you say is attached to the bacteria also is what the bugs smell even if it is so minute we can not smell it. I also wonder if my husband who went through excessive itching during his illness and a couple years afterward was him coming down with this also, but all those antibiotic at the very beginning stages for bronchitis for a whole year and then the herbal treatments to finally get well was enough to kill it before it got a real hold on him. Unfortunately I was rarely ever sick so had no antibiotic treatments and the disease was allowed to take hold of me. Being home and disabled also would leave me exposed longer to the toxic situation that led to my health coming apart.
When they finally fixed the problems of that house the gas company found a 75 dollar a month leak from the old fashion wall furnace. I had from day one complained of gas smells and was always told I was being too sensitive, because I have always had a extra sensitive smeller. Then put in my C-pap equipment which brings in the air from the room and forces it into my lungs would push larger amounts of toxins into my lungs more so then others. On top of that the mold wall was on my side of the room and so was the septic against the outer wall of house on that same side. So when windows were open I could breath the septic gases which would rise from time to time.
I wonder even those who say they were suddenly attacked by bugs was exposed to something long term that might have snuck up on them and like me they ignored all those warning and then when struck by the bugs attracted to the bacteria and such. Maybe gave them the impression a bug caused this. Also wonder if a bug who has this can bite you and infect you so that you can just come up with it out of the blue with no sneak up elements before hand.
Boy it will be wonderful if they the medical society ever figure out the details of this stinkin disease. I am so tired of it, but I am not holding my breath.
In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn
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Post by Lynn on Dec 16, 2011 11:27:57 GMT -5
Hi Toni
Again it takes me a long time to catch on and I know we all get those weird extra big things at the follicle and have wondered if it was the disease or the use of all the herbs I clean with accumulating under the hair. I am glad to watch this video because it proves to me what you have been saying. That the bugs are living under the follicle. Wish I could get the hubby to look at some of this. I can remember going through a year where my hair hurt and then it started rapidly changing color. So fast that in five days my chiropractors wife thought I had died my hair almost black when I had medium brown hair. Then from there turned a brassy orange and gold color before going blond and then sugar blonde. The new hair always came in the normal color but it would not take long for it to change also. All this before all the herbal treatments and all over attack from the bugs.
Its amazing how often my hair has changed color and it still does at a much slower pace.
In Light Lynn
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Post by Lynn on Dec 16, 2011 11:48:43 GMT -5
Hi Xib
I went through periods of drinking the organic apple vinegar. I agree with you that it does help alkalize. A book written by a couple of doctors who are married called The Miracle Cure. It is all about how to alkalize the body and they too list Lemons as a big alkalizer. I love Lemon in my water and will do that all the time. The Dr.s in the book will go through the biological steps of how the Lemon turns into a Alkaline product in the body. So many times friends and family have said Lemons will make you acidic they are related to oranges.
If only they could read the book. In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn
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Post by Lynn on Dec 16, 2011 12:04:15 GMT -5
Hi Toni
It is very exciting for me this week. The use of the vinegar which I am trying not to over do has really knocked down the attacks from the bugs. I did have three jump on board last night in bed. I use to drink a lot of apple vinegar but got too much for me. I do better with my Lemon water or even sucking on Limes. I like sour, but the vinegar got to much for me. Might buy it in pill form though.
For the first time in two years most of the skin issues are gone. I still have the pointy hard one on my arm half there. It is just like the ones you get on the palms of your hand. The closed crater like lesions on inside of my legs are all gone. But that left the bugs that are left no where to go so they re-invested into the upper v of the privates right next to the hair line and have what feels like a scratch mark. That was the first nesting site before the all over bug out break. I had gone to the dr. a couple of times with tiny skin colored hard bumps that felt like a grain of sand and was sore and felt like a paper cut when I would go to wipe during a potty session. Eventually the tiny hard bumps went away and the scratch line got longer and periodically I would get what felt like worms wiggling in the public hair.
For a couple of years I had a tickle bottom like worms coming and going out the bottom, but never saw anything in the stool. Only the snot worms in a potty session back then. Now it seems to slowly be in reverse. Everything I went through over a six year period before the all over outbreak of bugs head to toe. Dwindling down to where it all started. I know for me this all started in my Colon. I really like the Tulsa study because the address that issue in a way I can understand.
Well I am a writing feign to day and just happy that most of the non-healing wounds are finally going away. I am so happy I got over my shy kick ant met everyone hear. It has greatly helped my journey.
Thank you. In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn
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