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Post by questionhair1 on Jan 23, 2006 0:03:09 GMT -5
Looking at the photos of the macroscopic chain of bacteria reminded me of a photo - it didn't look the same, but I'll post it anyway - anyone else see this? It was unusual. Part of the Herxing after starting the anti-candida diet, vitamins, supplements, & better health life style - along with a resolution to not pick at any itch. Thus, I knew something was going on up on my scalp, but refused to "pick" at it. Showers and shampooing did not change the sensations, and I wasn't combing since my hair was ultra-short. After several weeks, I decided to remove whatever was bothering me. I got each thing on the first try with tweezers with my eyes closed and no mirror - I had felt them so long I knew EXACTLY where they were on my scalp without looking. One photo I already posted was the "waspy" looking thing - and here is the second thing - and the third thing was just a really extra 'gel' covered hair. Here's the second thing: LONG WINDY CREEPY THING s1.simpload.com/011843cf0db1e21de.jpgWHAT IS IT? It was long and wound around a hair shaft. I don't remember if it was one or more things - but maybe it was one really long thing. The sensation I had during those weeks was that something was emerging from my scalp. (Never saw another one again.) Here's the waspy thing again - that greyish triangle on the upper section was definitely wing-like. However, poor photography doesn't show it well. WASPY THING s1.simpload.com/011843cf083e6f5ed.jpg(never saw another again) QH
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Post by ebgbgms on Jan 23, 2006 0:50:36 GMT -5
QH, I have recently made some changes and the top of my head feels like a ditch. The creepy feeling of the same as U described, something emerging, and it wants out. I had two good "things" that came right off as I had not been picking either. Your second pic looks similar, very. What is it? I don't know. We had a scope and when I saw it so clear I freaked (for a second) as U know we can expect almost anything and nothing should surprise us. When my husband looked, I think he really freaked and demanded the scope was dirty. He gave it a good cleaning and now it is useless. Was just a cheepy and it made it worse. He didn't mean to. But, the image is still very real to me, I can tell U this, everything that flies is attracted to me and my son. Why it's something coming out from so deep in my head I have no idea. The same time this happened, I saw some hair that had come out under the scope. On the hair there were perfect round ball shapes that look just like mercury from an old fashioned thermometer if it fell and broke on the floor. It glowed, that's the best way I can describe it. QH, hope U might be feeling better and take care
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Post by pile on Jan 23, 2006 0:56:35 GMT -5
the round balls are in everything related to this if you look close enough.nobody seems to believe that those balls are the common denominator in all of the strange things we see. Its worth looking into
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Post by curry on Jan 23, 2006 1:46:16 GMT -5
questionhair1, I did look at the photo you just posted...the first one I can't make anything out of...the second one however I see something that is so viciously ramped in every slide I look at...not the wing though. That is scarey...I guess I should be somewhat grateful 'cause I've seen nothing that looks that insectish come from me or my children. But you see that string thing in the 2:00 position? The string thing, flat, charcoal color usually...with the what in them? Is that little spores of bacteria in them? Is that how I've read so much on BB and Syphilis break down to preserve themselves? I've read they break down into spores inside their membrane that very much resembles the spirochete shape. Maybe when a specific body area depleted of it's ability to prevent any kind of infection 'cause of the bacteria or whatever your open to all kind of stuff? Just like Glenda mentioned how flies are attracted to her and her son...just like when you die...the stages of decomposition...our bodies attract insects to decompose the organic material? Does that sound crazy? I read up on that last spring...how my skin is subject to such parasitism...I don't intend to sound insensitive by any means so please forgive me if I do...I've been through hell with this disease so I've have had no limitations on my quest for answers... www.deathonline.net/decomposition/decomposition/It may seem unruly but if you check out this site right...read "Stages of Corpse Decomposition" It explains how the dead pig can no longer maintain the intestinal fauna which takes over and begins the whole decomposition process...very interesting. Some may say far fetched...I happen to feel could be very relevant to our cause. Lowered immunity for whatever the individuals reason...leaving us completely venerable to whatever's around.
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Post by just me on Jan 23, 2006 2:52:06 GMT -5
"string thing in the 2:00 position" that, along with the "round balls" pile mentioned, are usually part of what ever object i have viewed under the scope. the only thing i can gather is it plays a part of the many morphs this thing does. also usually present is a clear protruding tube-like thing. you can see them in the second pic here: www.morgellons.org/pics2.html
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Post by specuelatin on Jan 23, 2006 4:19:07 GMT -5
uggh! curry , I am just not going to look anycloser! Hi anywahhh! Okay, does this mean that because we have all these little creepers inside of us that the evidence of what killed us will also happen to vanish very rapidly. hmmm... spec
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Post by specuelatin on Jan 23, 2006 4:31:15 GMT -5
Hello Question Hair Farm, Hope you never see them again. I think there is a nursery rhyme about "never hope to see one" let's see if ant can find us a pic. The long windy thing, does it seem to have a single horn on top of its "head". Kind of like a quail. Alot of mine do. www.naturalginesis.com sells a special stainless lice comb that is very effective in use... called a terminator I think... maybe could help. gosh, please don't any of you think I am saying you have lice.. ..and to think a couple of years ago I dreaded the prospect that this could be lice and hard to get rid of.. lol ~ three times over. spec
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Post by questionhair1 on Jan 23, 2006 9:25:35 GMT -5
"string thing in the 2:00 position" that, along with the "round balls" pile mentioned, are usually part of what ever object i have viewed under the scope. the only thing i can gather is it plays a part of the many morphs this thing does. also usually present is a clear protruding tube-like thing. you can see them in the second pic here: www.morgellons.org/pics2.html To "Just Me" - thanks for the photo link and comments - Here is my theory on that old drawing (the big thing labeled "B") - when it comes to hair, and those gel-like-casings that surround a hair from within a hair root shaft - those sometimes seem to emerge like a vine and twist around the hair shaft. They are usually white and seem to reflect light, or be fluorescent. The little brush at the end SEEMS to be caused by the "vine" surrounding the hair shaft and breaking it off somehow, and then that brushy thing forms from the broken end. But, that's not the only manifestation. More often it seemed there the gel-stuff around the hair emerged along with the hair, darkened and hardened, and then the "casing" falls away and a cluster of fiber stuff is revealed, looking like daddy-long-legs without a spider body. Something seems very fungal about that whole process and I looked into piedra as a result. Gee, TOO BAD I'm not a scientist. TOO BAD I'm just some regular person forced to look into microscopes and try to figure this out myself. Had an Infectious Disease doctor and a Dermatologist look right at my scalp and hair and they did not notice anything. Or care to look closer - with proper equipment. This week I have read stuff about Gulf War Syndrome and a speech made by Joyce Riley that opened my eyes. I have a book by Dr. Leonard Horowitz titled Death In the Air and I've skimmed it before, but will spend more time with it. So, how does some old, old disease named Morgellons match up with new man-made stealth viruses or tainted vaccines, or stuff coming from the skies? Maybe the new things weaken the body with things like fungal infections so old stuff can move in and take over. Not that I'm saying that's the answer, but I'm turning over a lot of rocks in my search. Some creepy theories under some stones that get turned over. To ebgbgms: Thanks for the good wishes, and yes, I do feel a lot better lately. I almost want to say 98% better, but am kind of waiting for this stuff to flare back up like many others have said happens. I don't remember perfectly round things, but need a better microscope. But, I really am trying to stop looking . . . To Curry: Thanks for checking into the photos, that 2:00 thing you mentioned - to me it's just another pokey thing poking out. They always have things poking out. If I had more than 100x microscope, I could probably tell if they were always the same thing, but so far they're just stuff sticking out. I do believe that the systemic fungal infection - starting from a leaky gut syndrome where the fungal infection pierces the digestive tract and grows throughout the body like a giant fungal plant inside was a way that toxins traveled throughout the body. As I implemented the anti-candida diet I visualized those rhizomes (sp?) drying up and withering away. Thus, improving immunity by reducing the assault on my body. To Specuelatin: Thanks for the link. My hair is starting to grow out so I'll be needing to comb it again. No offense taken. When I thought this was the lice-from-hell that wouldn't go away I didn't know how much worse it could be. One reason I stopped combing was that I was doing it so thoroughly that I think I was opening up my scalp for more infection - but need to start again. QH
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Post by sandylu on Jan 23, 2006 14:25:28 GMT -5
man, i thought i was just crazy....same symptoms.
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Post by pile on Jan 23, 2006 18:39:14 GMT -5
heres one way to see the balls go nuts.(if you dare)pull out a morg hair......make sure it has the gel stuff on it.......place it on a slide.......put a few drops of canola oil on it,so it covers the whole thing........place a slide on top of it(so the morg hair oil specimen is between 2 microscope slides) then watch the fun begin . Every time I do this ,after a few minutes, the ball things seem to start to spin and then break away and "swim"(I guess)through the oil. Im talking moving really fast in all directions.changing directions etc. Its pretty incredible to watch. It definately pisses them off and gets them moving.......A lot. have seen the same with the fibers.....round balls breaking away, but not as good as morg hair.(must have the gel crud as that is where the balls are congregated. I know any half arsed scientist could see that something major is going on. They have to know or theyre all blind and delusional or just plain stupid.
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Post by questionhair1 on Jan 23, 2006 19:40:51 GMT -5
Pile, what is the magnification you need to see the moving around balls between the slides?
Also, what does anyone think about the photo that Curry put forth in the thread "New here" with the link to the macro chain of bacteria?
Is it possible that the creepy windy thing I found is a long chain of macro bacteria that was created by herxing?
What does anyone think the clear gel stuff around a hair shaft is? Fungus? That's what I think, but I am just guessing.
Is there anyone with the scalp/hair symptoms who is doing fine without the anti-candida diet?
Thanks,
QH
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Post by Janedough guest on Jan 23, 2006 22:05:13 GMT -5
I have slight activity on the scalp. I definately have the dancing hairs. I do not know what you are talking about with the gel. I have not morgellons that long. I just wonder if I am missing the gel or should I anticipate gel production soon? Thanx for any response.
Janedough
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Post by pile on Jan 23, 2006 22:10:29 GMT -5
question hair:400x works best but can be seen(not very well) @200x Janedough, When a morg hair is pulled out, there will be a small amount of clear "gel" on the part of the hair that was under the skin hope that answers your question
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Post by specuelatin on Jan 24, 2006 0:41:35 GMT -5
Hello Question Hair, The thought crossed my mine that the windy thing could be a cheyilletia. I know I did not spell that right. There is a pic on a link I started. They are very tiny. What magnification was yours at? The condition (zoonotic) is from dog or cat and is not commonly diagnosed in U.S. Material says infection tends to come out around October i believe, the hair is part of the picture with them. I believe nodules, could be subcutaneous, not apparent on surface. I have had some varmint that looks like a mickey mouse hand and is all blood red, reach out and grab a hair from my head and pull it into the tiny lesion. When I yanked the hair out, it was twistedbut loopy, like sewing machine stitches, into the lesion and this thing had a good hold of it, tucked down in the lesion. Blood red is not the cheyilletia, but is the creamy or whitish as I remember. sorry but I have homework and can't stay long. I will look for the thread, where the corrrrrrrect spelling for the varmint is and bump it forward. OH, what the heck, here it is for posterity: tinyurl.com/dffmaI guess you can look at the little bug and compare size with your pic based on the hair strands in both pictures. It appears cream and black in this pic. Maybe yours is still a baby and not black at all ~ as of yet. ahh yes, and it is the "I've never seen a purple cow and never hope to see one" which I never hope you see again. Finally I remember the rhyme. Spec
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Post by Will on Jan 24, 2006 9:33:28 GMT -5
possibly the ball thing contains an organism that breathes and the "hair" is the breathing tube. the oil smothers it? I call it "hair" as I think someone posted a long time ago about hair being relpaced. that something grows along side the hair and "assimilates" it ? some have mentioned they shave their head then the wild longer hairs grow. Do these look like hairs under the scope? maybe 400x is not enough mag to tell? just curious..........Will
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Post by questionhair1 on Jan 24, 2006 9:53:51 GMT -5
Pile - thanks for the magnification information - my handheld microscope only goes to 100x.
Speculatin - if that thing on the hair strand is at 400x, I am not sure that it is the same thing. However, remember the whole tardigrades theory? That thing in your photo does look like a little bear. But, I don't want to muddy the waters. I'd have to have a better microscope to make a good comparison. However, the stuff I've seen seem more often like strands rather than clumps. The two photos I posted were unusual stuff for me, and I think prompted by herxing.
Will - some people here mention that they feel like stuff is shooting out hair ends. I wonder if the balls are connected. But, a person would have to be very sensitive to feel that.
Janedough - not everyone has the same symptoms - so you might not get the gel-covered-hair-root thingy.
QH
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Post by rem on Jan 25, 2006 3:27:06 GMT -5
i too have these live hairs. they tend to cling to my face and the back of my neck. i wont cut my hair short because since i have been suffering from this hellish disease, I have lost almost half of my hair. meaning my hairline now begans on top of my head instead of on my forehead. It looks like i shave my scalp, if i push down on a hair folicle with some tweezers the white gel like stuff will come out in a tiny lump. but ive recently figured out a way to tame these suckers, If you use an antifrizz serum on your hair it seems to calm them or make them behave for a while, when they start to act up, i just put some more on. The best one i have found is made by fruitice in a round ball shaped bottle with a lime green pump, smells great too. The minuted i get out of the shower, this stuff goes on the littel hair i have left, some new hair seems to be growing back hopefully, my 3 year old daughter has this as well. Also if you use a very thick conditioner after shampooing with pert plus it helps alot. oh yeah, i almost forgot, the hair serum works awsome all over your body, i use it like lotion, it really stops the itch.seems to help lesions heal too. i am being treated by Dr Schwartz and he's wonderful, my whole family has this disease and strange enough, we have just found out that our mobile home is infested with toxic mold, we just got labe results back and there were 4 types of mold genius there, has any one elese checked to see about mold being a problem in their home or work? Id love some input if anyone out there has mold in their home, i defently believe it is linked to this illness that we are trying to beat with no success.
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Post by bannanny on Jan 25, 2006 6:29:48 GMT -5
remygarcia..........Yes, we have mold here. Were tested a couple years ago and they found Stachybotrys, Asperguilles, Chaetomium and several others said not to be quite as damaging as the previous. I've always had this feeling down in my gut that chaetomium could be playing a role in this thing. Hopefully, the day will come when we'll know just what this thing really is!
QH1.......had to go outta town and then in "hibernation" lately.......will give you a call. By the way, your pix...identical to mine. I have millions of the first pic........so gross!! Since you seem to be doing better (thank God) I've really been unsure about coming to see ya cuz I'm in pretty bad shape and don't want to take the chance of your guys wanting to come back out to play from being exposed to me, this would not be a good thing! Anyhow ma dear, I'll give ya a call tomorrow.................
Luv ya's ~~~ bannanny
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Post by eec on Jan 25, 2006 7:32:29 GMT -5
back in fall of 2004 NIH told me this skin condition was called toxic mold syndrome-- no one in govt was researching they said to check out morgelleons research for help
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Post by specuelatin on Jan 25, 2006 19:52:07 GMT -5
Hello QH - about the magnification, I would look at the hairs involved for relative size perspective, like when people use a coin in the pic. it is hard to know what is what size with the pics changing size when reproduced,, even though a certain magnification is stated. The cheyiletilia (or whatever) are just a thought, this is not a personal pic, and i don't know if the tardigrades could be in any way related to the che...
I should probably post something on the tardigrades thread. Those little devils. I thought they resembled the mickey mouse hand and so put lots of stuff in water and watched in microscope. I think plain water might kill whatever this is, they would bloat up and just be indistinguishable. the tardigrades were suppose to be coming back to life in water. I never saw anything positive. Went back to 91% alcohol and this is where I sometimes see activity.
Your pics of windy thing seemed to be a strand then, as you observed it.
spec
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