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Post by itchin4answers on Sept 6, 2012 18:29:43 GMT -5
Hi Baraka, I posted the "Brucellosis Triangle" link a few months back, I can not remember the month. Apparently around 1987 this experiment began. It includes all the auto immune diseases; RA, Lupus, FM etc. Yes this does all link together and I get to understanding, and then my mind wanders. Maybe I've had this too long. toni, I agree with you. This thing sat and lurked and then it attacked when it had crippled my immune system. Here's a couple of links I found, not sure where my thoughts are leading too. I will get to read through the links you provided Baraka, having trouble getting the info. to sink in. Laboratory Animal Models for Brucellosis Research www.hindawi.com/journals/jbb/2011/518323/Zoonoses and veterinary public health Brucellosis www.who.int/zoonoses/diseases/brucellosis/en/
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Post by itchin4answers on Sept 6, 2012 18:38:16 GMT -5
Baraka,
The "Lymph nodes - not lymphoma" link IS very interesting. I was going to print the document - 58 pages!
I believe this disease hijacks the lymph nodes, and that is it's path for taking over. Even Lyme resides in the lymph nodes, glands, you name it.
Thanks itchin
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Post by Baraka Obam on Sept 6, 2012 21:49:27 GMT -5
You sure do spark me to think, your questions lead me to google what I have always wondered but did not have the right idea to google. I did not know where to start actually, the question was, what makes the lesions appear in the same exact places both sides of the body, of course it was in a system, but it seemed it had to be a blood cappillary, now I find that the lymp system has its own cappillary system. This could be the ticket for the systemic locations of the lesions, this is only a idea but I can see this happening. The yellow fluid may be just that, lymph fluid, then how would it get into the lesions, the lesions will actually have the yellow fluid RUN out when you use 35% hydrogen peroxide to litterally shut off red and white blood cells. I could probably fill a one cc hyperdermic with the amount that flows out after trating with 35% hydrogen peroxide. I do not know if the fluid is lymph flide, but lymph fluid is yellow. You see, it takes more than one injured brain to follow this, I wondered how the lymph flows, I wonder how it gets into the lesion, this may be totally off but there are lymph cappillaries. For all this time I have been wondering why and how the lesions choose their systemic spots. One on the right arm or wrist , one on the left arm or wrist in the same place. This could be because its using the lymph system and its cappilaries. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lymph_capillaryOn my neck in the VERY BIGINNING of my problems, the skin on the left side of my neck over the huge vein developed bumps. You can see still the involvment but it is minimal now, that is unless I run 35% hydrogen peroxide over it, then it is telling, the skin on the vein will react. On my lower half in the beginning my right side groin lymp glad was swollen so bad it felt unbearable, the left side has never kept pace with the amount of swelling. The gland hardly ever feels normal, for the most part it is always swollen. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lymphatic_vesselwww.rightdiagnosis.com/organ/lymph.htmwww.blessedherbs.com/internal-cleansing-kits-lymph-blood-skin.aspx
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Post by itchin4answers on Sept 6, 2012 22:32:33 GMT -5
I am still learning google searches 10yrs on...lol
Yes, it is lymph fluid. My sister, an RN confirmed this around 2003 before I started to morph. My sister felt the fluid on the back of neck.
All this takes time for me, the duh factor is major some days. Can sometimes take 2 days for things to sink in.
The back of my neck started around 1999. I was living in a rental property after my 2nd marriage break up. I didn't know at the time, but the gas heater on the wall leaked incomplete combustion gases - carbon monoxide (low doses) over 2 years. The ceiling and furniture were full of soot and I only made the connection once I pointed this out to the land lord, who knew and had let me breath all that muck in, it killed my cat too. I had that lesion on the back of my neck for 12 months.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Sept 7, 2012 0:35:11 GMT -5
Did you ever read how I found my involvment in the back of my neck.
I had a issue on my arm a lesion that went active is what I call it, antibiotic cream on the lesion covered with a bandaid will start the lesion to burn, it must be covered with a bandaid for this to happen, the pain went from the lesion deep into the arm, then down the arm and up into my neck.
My neck at that time was perfect, there was not a pimple on my neck, anyway, my arm hurt so bad it felt like a truck was sitting on it, all the time, I went to two hospitols, they saw the lesions on my legs, they assumed I was a drug addict.
They would not give me any pain meds, nothing, I begged them, in reality I should have just went and bought some off the street, it would have saved me 5000 dollars.
I went to a doctor that told me to see a bone doctor, what, he also told me I was mistaken about where the pain started, huh, it must have started in your neck this Quack said.
Anyway Doctor Dum sent me for a cat scan, when it was done the man operating the machine said, do you want to see the picture, I siad sure.
That is when I saw the massive growth at the top of my spine, a huge lump, well, you know how that affected me, whats that I asked, he said oh its probably just fat, ALOT OF PEOPLE HAVE THAT, yes of course they do.
I went home got out my 35% hydrogen peroxide and a qtip and rubbed it over the perfect looking skin on the back of my neck.
Like magic there was the largest white perfect circle formed, it was burning like mad, right in the center was a big red dot, this circle was 3 inches across.
It swelled up, I continued to treat it untill it let go of the permeated fake skin and showed the largest lesion I had ever seen.
That was a horrible spot to get this, the size and tenderness of this are was a living hell every time I put the 35% hydrogen peroxide on it.
over time two more good sized ones formed one on each side up the neck in the exact same spots.
So if you get a cat scan of the neck make sure you get copies of the scan so you can look at them, you will see it right at the base of the neck.
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Post by itchin4answers on Sept 7, 2012 0:55:29 GMT -5
I can sure believe that Baraka. I wanted a CAT scan of my neck early on with this. The GP said he would give me a one, but then he changed his mind. My skin was so tight and I could not extend my arms. Maybe the GP then knew what it was?
I have that fear, like with what happened to your neck happening on my face, the right side. My face feels like plastic, it doesn't feel like my skin, it is the fake skin, sweating is a hassle and a do steam inhalation with boiling water and a towel over my head to try to get things moving. I even attempted to stand on my head the other day! but then got scared and couldn't get my legs to go up, so I just did what I could do.
I do still get those sensations of touching an area on my body and I feel it in another. My knee is still not good, and it feels like a rope twisting down my right leg, my toes keep going numb and thick skin on my big toe is filled with the manifestation of this creature.
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Post by Lynn on Sept 7, 2012 1:23:51 GMT -5
Hi Toni
Most of the church groups I belong to were just over a 100 people and growing up hardly anyone had cancer or heart attacks. It has really been digging my nerves lately when I go to a same size congregation and everyone of all ages has cancer, seizures, and other host of health issues. It is screaming something is wrong and I do not notice anyone else noticing this. Glad to see you notice also.
In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn
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Post by itchin4answers on Sept 7, 2012 3:53:42 GMT -5
I believe what we have is cancer. I could be wrong, but I reckon it is.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Sept 7, 2012 6:34:50 GMT -5
I do not know about that, cancer it may turn into, cancer it may be responsable for but this takes time.
The systemic involvment I believe is the reason people will have one large tumor taken out and then after there are many tiny tumors growing like mad.
If I am gonna guess, I will guess I do not have so long before I expire and it will be from a insidious, systemic, stealthy, multiple symptom, single vector disease or possible multiple vector.
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Post by toni on Sept 7, 2012 7:59:31 GMT -5
Tony, did you read any of the web sites??? Now you really have some work to do, these things are connected, the process in Alzheimers is the most looked into. I know my mind is going, I will miss her, LOL, Did you read the web site on the government using brucellosis, I suggest you do, look at the symptoms also, then imagine they have not listed them all. Please www.anapsid.org/cnd/activism/brucellosis-scott.htmlBaraka, Yes, I sure did, thanks for those links. (I know what you mean how many of the diseases are connected)
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Post by toni on Sept 7, 2012 8:06:23 GMT -5
Hi Toni Most of the church groups I belong to were just over a 100 people and growing up hardly anyone had cancer or heart attacks. It has really been digging my nerves lately when I go to a same size congregation and everyone of all ages has cancer, seizures, and other host of health issues. It is screaming something is wrong and I do not notice anyone else noticing this. Glad to see you notice also. In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn Ditto
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Post by itchin4answers on Sept 7, 2012 17:43:04 GMT -5
I don't know if it's cancer, I say these things at times, as we do.
I feel as though I haven't long until I expire either. That could be the herx from the antibiotic, I hope. I will tell you what cemented that thought in my head. I am only part way through listening to the interview from yesterday with Pamela Crane and Professor Garth Nicholson. This man tells us how ill we really are. The Chelation Therapy sounds interesting and so far I've learnt that many are against Chelation.
I will go and listen to the rest of the radio show before I comment any further.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Sept 7, 2012 19:50:01 GMT -5
I have had chelation, it removed some huge freakles from my shoulders, was that a good sign, who knows, LOL.
30 intravenious treatments.
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Post by itchin4answers on Sept 9, 2012 5:32:25 GMT -5
My lymph vessels and glands all over lap and intertwine, it is very uncomfortable, 8 years like this. I am wondering if the Chelation would reach those areas? I think it would be difficult because the lymphatic system is now all for this disease, not me. I don't know how I will recover from this mess, I know I won't recover. I want quality of life and not having to pull on my skin.
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