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Post by davidbourke on Feb 16, 2013 13:00:36 GMT -5
Hi friends,
My whole problem started with my face and scalp. Over time, thanks to a monumentally stupid (or malevolent) dermatologist, it spread over my entire body. But my head, because it was first to be affected, was always the worst.
While doing this Coconut Sandwich protocol, I've had four vast floods of objects out of my skin so far. Throughout, although I DID get stuff out of my face and scalp, I always felt I should have been getting more.
That all changed last night - in a big way.
Day 19: ingested four tablespoons of coconut oil, and also applied it topically. From trunk, arms, thighs, and calves - about 3,000 objects. From feet (most especially toes) about 4,000 objects. From head - difficult to estimate because most were so tiny, but I would say about 20,000-30,000. Tickles next day: one on face (so far), one on neck.
After wiping myself clean, I slept for an hour. When I woke, there were many thousands of objects on my body and head. When I tried to pick them off individually, each one immediately fell apart in my fingers, so I had to get out of bed and wipe down again.
On waking this morning, I found about another 1,000 objects, all degraded similarly.
Today is the first time in more than three years that my skin feels...uninhabited. It now feels like my own again. I've been smiling all day.
The reason the scalp and forehead take so long is because there isn't really any fat layer under the skin for the lipase to flood, so you have to wait for it to gradually soak into the intracellular spaces in the skin itself. Once it does, boom - your head explodes!
I now have no doubt whatever that coconut oil is going to remove everything in my body that uses a lipid shield to hide from my immune system. I'm on the road home...
Whether this is a Morgellons cure or not I don't know. If the bacteria involved also use lipids (likely), then it could very well be. If not, the search isn't over yet.
But at least it can be conducted in personal comfort, without that incessant itching and crawling and biting.
I'm so confident about this protocol that I'm giving it its own page on the website.
If you decide to try it, remember this: I'm only able to apply coconut oil all over once a day. If you can do it twice a day, you're going to get there quicker than I did.
Coconut oil is the gift that keeps on giving. I wish you all luck with it.
Namaste, and much love and light to you all.
David.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Feb 16, 2013 20:03:09 GMT -5
Dave, I would like to ask you to do somthing for the people that may try your treatment plan.
I know you must have found ways to keep the greassy mess off of your cloths, bed and what not.
I know you must have found ways to apply it to areas that are hard to reach.
So tips on application and keeping everything from being soiled while absorbing and getting the very most from the coconut oil would be a good addition to your thread.
I must appologize about convoluting the thread we all do get carried away when we read things, its just time to up and post no matter what the thread is actually about.
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Post by davidbourke on Feb 17, 2013 20:52:30 GMT -5
Hi friends, Just a quick note to say toni was, as usual, correct when she said that Morgellons elements can re-enter the skin. The day before yesterday, I noticed a throbbing stinging sensation in the little and ring fingers of my left hand. This is the hand I mainly use for massage since my right arm is largely useless. Since this sensation was never present in this location before, I must conclude that something ejected from elsewhere on my body managed to penetrate both these fingers and they're now giving me hell. Well, if I got them out once, I can get them out again. With regard to the question of oily clothing and bedding, I'm afraid I can't offer any useful advice other than don't use too much oil and massage it in well. Because I can only do one application a day, I do it just before bedtime, so the clothing issue never arises. However, I now have to wash my sleeping bags every second day. Four years of needing instant access to my entire skin while in bed (and living alone) have now done away with the wearing of pyjamas. EDIT (18 Feb): On reflection, one way to deal with the clothing and bedding issue would be to simply use paper towels to remove the oil once you've got all the available objects out. However, this is going to be difficult when you get a flood because your own skin is now going to be exuding dissolved lipid components. For hard to reach areas: www.CoverYourBack.com/Default.aspxwww.bodybuddy.com/www.amazon.com/Aquasentials-Easy-Lotion-Applicator/dp/B001D8ZGAM/ref=pd_bxgy_bt_img_yDON'T BUY THIS ONE:www.amazon.com/Jobar-International-Roll-A-Lotion-Applicator/dp/B000MBNLF8The oil will harden as it cools and jam the roller balls. I know because I tried it. Namaste, and much love and light to you all. David.
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Post by threader on Feb 18, 2013 4:08:39 GMT -5
I looked for that post of Toni's last week to chime in but couldn't find it.
Yes, I've observed the morg material go back into the skin about a hundred times. It hasn't occurred lately, but the sheds that really burn coming out can easily go right back in.....
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Post by davidbourke on Feb 20, 2013 18:20:43 GMT -5
Hi torpedolynn,
Wow! Hills and dales, my friend.
Healthwise though, things seem to be looking up for you. Some real progress there, and I'm very happy for you. God knows you deserve it.
Every journey consists of single individual footsteps. Just take things one day at a time. Put all tomorrows completely out of your mind and just live in the present moment - savour your life, savour what peace you find, and what joy, in each and every day.
Softlee softlee catchee monkee.
Namaste, and much love and light to you, Lynn.
David.
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Post by Ayla on Feb 21, 2013 0:21:07 GMT -5
Hi David, I am so glad to hear that your skin feels good again.
There is one nagging thought that I have and need to talk about. Doctor Fry, of Fry labs did a blog talk radio show with Pamela Crane a while back. Doctor Fry believes that this new protozoa he's identified might be implicated in the Morgellons illness (as well as other diseases).
He feels this organism feeds off lipids and recommends that people who test positive go on a low-fat diet. Oils are essential to maintaining good health, so I don't see how that could be the good thing, however the patients that go on a low-fat diet, along with an anti-malarial protocol start improving.
If he is correct that this protozoa is a problem for Morgellons sufferers, then those of us that are guzzling coconut oil might be giving fuel to the fire. This is a question that concerns me, as I use a lot of coconut oil. In fact I've increased the usage of oils in general.
Part of me wonders, if Dr. Fry is correct, could all of these fibers and particles that are coming out of you in massive amounts be because you are actually feeding it? This is a question that's been in my mind for months after listening to that interview. Or is this mass exodus because finally the body has an outlet for them to be pushed out? Clearly, you are feeling better so something is happening, but I needed to get this off my chest.
Also, I know the literature says that coconut oil reduces the bad cholesterol, but I have not found that to be the case for myself. My bad cholesterol is pretty high, but my good cholesterol is way up. In fact my last doctor commented that she had never seen such high levels in any of her patients, and that I do attribute to the coconut oil. My family has a history of high cholesterol though, so some of my high cholesterol might be genetic predisposition.
I look forward to your continuing installments on your progress. Big virtual hug...
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Post by Baraka Obam on Feb 21, 2013 2:28:12 GMT -5
Ayla,
I do not know if I agree with that idea as it seems to me the things that really got rid of this filth was going after it with some item that shows result.
I used coconut oil and did not get such a huge amount of result from it, but I did not follow Davids directions either.
I am sure if this stuff is doing this for him it would do the same for all, this disease is the same in all of us.
The items that come out of the skin come clear with pictures from others and they are the same, one person will describe this or that but when you see a picture it is nothing like they described and exactly as others that have shown their involvment in clear pictures.
We do not all have a different disease to imagine that would be a huge character flaw.
I posted on the woman next door and the malarial drugs, this is what saved her life.
She was a caregiver perfect and well, all of a sudden she could not even walk nothing worked on her.
Then finally the doctor gave her anti malarial drugs, bingo, but she can not stop taking them, she said.
She is very well now. Makes you kinda wonder don't it.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Feb 21, 2013 10:28:44 GMT -5
The capsules I take internally, compatibility I do not think enters into the equation, unless, it will mess with doctor drugs.
When you start to take anything new remember, take them for a few days, then skip a few, keep going until your acclimated.
Some of these are things that are best for killing the monster inside always have some sort of result, pleasant or unpleasant.
If you can not feel any difference or see any difference good or bad, your not doing much to get rid of the monster.
NOPE.
Grapefruit seed extract will fight this from the outside in and the inside out. It is good stuff.
With anything you have to watch for any kind of results to know what to do.
Doctors can say this or that, primarily they guess that anything that has any effect that seems bad is bad, that does not seem to be the case when treating this disease, you can do nearly anything and something will happen.
For example why do the lesions just leap upon the skin in just a day when they have been hiding under the skin for years, what exactly happened there.
I am now taking all the items at once that at one time alone would cause a reaction, some that were very large.
Why now am I tolerating it so much better.
There are results showing on the skin but they are very small, very small.
Still the results are in exact spots, one on one side one on the other, the newest is in the sideburns even with the ear hole, the spot opened then spewed fluid and blood, not much but enough to know its still there, what do I do, I hit it with Hydrogen peroxide and it spews a lot more of the mess, then I keep hitting it with hydrogen peroxide 35% until it no longer spews and closes.
I do not try to let it be and so called heal, as I have said, that does not seem to be the way you really heal this up.
Constant bashing it with something that brings some kind of reaction from it.
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Post by davidbourke on Feb 21, 2013 15:56:21 GMT -5
Hi friends, It's vital to differentiate between grapefruit juice and grapfruit SEED extract. Grapefruit juice can be extremely dangerous because it highly potentiates the effects of any drug in your system - and can even have fatal results. www.nytimes.com/2006/03/22/health/22iht-sngrape.html?_r=0GSE doesn't cause this problem to anywhere near the same extent. However, GSE can also act as a blood thinner, so if you're taking warfarin or other similar drugs, you may need to reconsider your use of GSE. www.livestrong.com/article/346073-what-are-the-dangers-of-grape-seed-extract/Lynn - as the young people say, "You go, girl!" After I answered your previous post, something was bothering me. Today it hit me - I didn't understand what you meant by "charley horse" (we don't all speak American, you know!) So I looked it up, and it's muscle cramp. I, too, have been regularly getting these "locked-solid" cramps in the outside of my left calf and both my feet - extremely painful and crippling. But I have a cure for you - drink 8-10 ounces of any tonic water that contains quinine. I now drink this every night before bedtime and I get no more of these cramps. But it CANNOT be so-called "slimline" tonic water - this contains aspartame, a potent neurotoxin. The quinine is essential - Schweppes is the best, if you can get it. Quinine is an anti-malarial compound. I've no idea why it serves to relieve and prevent cramps. Biggest surprise of all - this tip was given to me by a doctor after I smashed my leg in 2002. I had to wear a cast from toes to knee for six months (because the bones were so slow to heal). And I was plagued with cramps in the broken leg. Don't worry about not being able to do the topical application. The ingestion will still keep breaking down the lipid shields and it will eventually penetrate the intracellular spaces in your skin. It's slower, but it will still work. As you're finding. ayla - as time has gone by, I've started to wonder about Dr. Fry. He's promised us so much for so long - and hasn't delivered. I've seen no evidence of his "new protozoa" - why not? And why hasn't he offered specimens to others for possible genetic and other research? Morgellons doesn't "feed off" lipids - it does, however, need them in order to hide from our immune system. So he is correct in that. However, coconut oil is unique among oils in that it actually DESTROYS lipids rather than adds to them. The result of all this destruction is that the objects and organisms lose their immune system shields and are either attacked by our killer cells or driven out of the skin to escape them. This is the explanation for the massive increase in object outflow. However, my last "shock" treatment with Aloe Heat Lotion, which up to now has reliably produced a vast flood on the next coconut oil topical, caused just a sub-1,000 object exodus. And continuing coconut oil applications now yield very low numbers, but quite large outflows of what I call "extra" oil. I believe this is composed of the basic fat components of the degraded lipids, my own sebaceous oil, and melted excess fat from my own fat layers. If my next "shock" treatment produces similar results, I intend to reduce the topical applications to one every second or third day. The bottom line for me is this: until Dr. Fry either sh*ts or gets off the pot, I won't trust him. Re cholesterol: if your bad cholesterol level continues to be high despite coconut oil, I think you're probably correct that there may be a genetic predisposition at work. If so, I think diet may be the safest way for you to address this. But I will continue to research it as and when I can manage to find the time. But thank you so much for your insightful observations. Re directions: when I first put toni's mustard protocols up on the website, I had people writing to me to say they were having no effect. In every case, investigation found that these people were NOT following the precise directions that toni had so painstakingly put together as the most effect way to use it. Some were adding their own favourite ingredients to the mix, some were improvising with things like adding dry mustard powder to Vaseline - all sorts of bizarre concoctions. When I insisted that they follow the directions as provided, they finally started to get some relief. So I will only say this: any individual's scientific experiment can be verified and validated by another ONLY if the exact same steps are followed. That's how ALL science works, and it's called the "scientific method." So if you don't follow the directions exactly, you can't expect the same results - it's common sense (and, of course, the scientific method). Other news: I've found convincing evidence that Morgellons may actually be a proteinaceous disease similar to Alzheimer's and Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease. In both of these, inappropriately-folded proteins called amyloids are the villains. These are also sometimes called prions. I still have a lot more research to, but if this is true, I know of a natural substance that's both produced by the body and found in certain foods that will gobble up these proteins if it is taken between meals. Watch this space... In closing, some incredibly exciting things are happening right now in my life which I can't talk about just yet because more work needs to be done, not just by me, by also by some other people I've managed to enlist in the fight. And when they bear fruit, they may well have a HUGE bearing on your life as well. Finally, this is possibly Clifford Carnicom's most important video so far (released a little over a week ago). You absolutely MUST see this: globalskywatch.com/live/archive/2013-02-12,Clifford-Carnicom.html And, when you've watched it, read this: www.healthfreedom.info/Chemtrails%20Essiac.htmFollowed by this: www.healthfreedom.info/Essiac%20Diabetes%20Detoxification.htmNamaste, and much love and light to you all. David.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Feb 21, 2013 19:25:12 GMT -5
Dave you may want to rethink the statment Amoloids are prion disease. There was an article I read on this that actually said, it seemed the amoloids would form to protect body matter. I have been a huge fan of Prion disease, why, because it is what causes Alzheimers, that is what they think, Prion disease also is enjoyed by Sheep they call the sheep disease scrapie, because the sheep itch soooo much they rub the wool right off themselves scraping on anything they can rub up against. Cows start kinda having just a little bit worse time with Prion disease and for years we have eaten this garbage. The reson I assume these are related big time is the huge rise of Alzheimer victims and all the brain issues in children same item different situation. Its all connected to the fiber like formations. Fibrous material is also connected to alzheimers, take a look at this, this article is super interesting It shows fiber material being broken down. www.nih.gov/researchmatters/june2008/06022008alzheimers.htm
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Post by davidbourke on Feb 21, 2013 20:51:06 GMT -5
No, actually, I don't want to rethink it, sir.
See, here's the thing: DAPH molecules are the property of micromolecular biology. They're chemicals. Which means Big Pharma will slap a patent on them, if they haven't already.
My possible method is much simpler and involves a natural healthful agent, already produced by the body, but not in sufficient quantities. DAPH also stinks of symptom relief rather than cure by seeking to alter the behaviour of the fibrils. My method takes a different approach - it EATS the offending proteins.
Problem solved.
Namaste, and much love and light to you all.
David.
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Post by davidbourke on Feb 21, 2013 21:17:19 GMT -5
Hi friends,
I now have my Morgellons Badge of Honour - a large slow-healing lesion just above my left instep. This was formed after a nest of nasties exited from the spot after much coconut oil persuasion. I've got another one on my back, but not nearly as big.
Another thing I forgot to report (damn brain fog): every single time I ever got a flood of objects going, the biofilm in my sinuses that has supplanted my normal nasal mucus started to run like a tap (or faucet, for you American friends).
Tonight, I felt something odd under my lower lip. When I touched it, I found it was rubbery and sticky, and easily rolled off my skin under my fingertips, bringing some whiskers with it.
The skin under it now feels new and clean. I believe it was a biofilm - all gone bye-bye now.
As I type this, I also have similar sticky spots all over my hands and fingers.
So it's quite obvious that the coconut oil has a direct effect on biofilms as well.
Namaste, and much love and light to you all.
David.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Feb 21, 2013 23:01:49 GMT -5
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Post by Baraka Obam on Feb 22, 2013 16:27:40 GMT -5
Dave, I know your really gung ho on the coconut oil and all that but I really do not imagine that it is the answer, Just imagine that what your seeing as affect, coconut oil has effect, you see effect as cure. This kinda suggests to me that you do not imagine this disease and its power correctly, it is not a simple kill it with oil disease. What your suggesting to try is harmless to most people unless their cholesterol is too high. Coconut oil is 90% saturated fat, yes it does this and that, but fat is fat, you should only have so much fat in your blood, it can clog up your heart. www.askdoctork.com/is-coconut-oil-good-for-you-201207042173My thinking on the matter, you have just started with the ugly side of the disease. When the lesions come out that says LONG TERM involvement, it also says something has changed that has erupted them. Some people have a bum rush of complete cover by the lesions. Very unusual is the torso, while arms, hands,fingers, feet, legs and face are the most prolific. I wish with all my heart for everyones sake that healing was as easy as a tub of coconut oil. In my case I have ingested and used on my skin, 8 to 10 32 oz bottles, I have not used it exactly as you have because my cholesterol was getting high, blood pressure was over the top, so I had to be cautious. There are other items I have used that get massive results. I have a very funny feeling the hidden lesions in the legs are responsible for PAD They told me I had this at one point. www.mayoclinic.com/health/peripheral-arterial-disease/DS00537 Dave I have read all the articles on coconut oil and I want to believe everything they write about it, but after trying it I do not believe everything. I do know there is something strange about it, different, in the way it will work on the skin and hair, the hair will soon after taking, like after the very first time when you get in the shower the hair feels silky, bacon greasy does not have that effect, also the skin looks more vibrant. The first batch I got had no coconut flavor, for me that was better for cooking, I do not like my food flavored.
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Post by davidbourke on Feb 22, 2013 18:03:41 GMT -5
Amazing! You've actually quoted links in your posts.
Well, if you go back and actually READ your Wikipedia links, you'll see that both prions and amyloids consist of inappropriately-folded proteins. In other words, they both have the same building blocks.
The DAPH molecules simply alter the behaviour of the fibrils and amyloids. Which means it will only alleviate symptoms - it will never remove the underlying cause. In other words, it's yet another unending revenue stream.
Business as usual for Big Pharma.
My proposed remedy EATS these proteins.
And, please. your authority on coconut oil is a Harvard Medical School MD? You know, the same people who confidently tell you your disease is delusional and you need to see a psychiatrist?
All the while trying to keep as far away from you as they possibly can?
Give me a break.
Please understand this: with the exception of trauma medicine, ALL allopathic medicine is a gigantic fraud perpetrated on humanity to enrich a few and control the many.
And I intend to prove that in my next website update.
So please don't quote quacks to me unless your intention is to make me giggle.
I've already stated here for the record that I believe you're an internet shill, and I've seen nothing since then to change my opinion, only to reinforce it.
Namaste, and much love and light to you all.
David.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Feb 22, 2013 19:25:48 GMT -5
Amazing! You've actually quoted links in your posts. Well, if you go back and actually READ your Wikipedia links, you'll see that both prions and amyloids consist of inappropriately-folded proteins. In other words, they both have the same building blocks. The DAPH molecules simply alter the behaviour of the fibrils and amyloids. Which means it will only alleviate symptoms - it will never remove the underlying cause. In other words, it's yet another unending revenue stream. Business as usual for Big Pharma. My proposed remedy EATS these proteins. And, please. your authority on coconut oil is a Harvard Medical School MD? You know, the same people who confidently tell you your disease is delusional and you need to see a psychiatrist? All the while trying to keep as far away from you as they possibly can? Give me a break. Please understand this: with the exception of trauma medicine, ALL allopathic medicine is a gigantic fraud perpetrated on humanity to enrich a few and control the many. And I intend to prove that in my next website update. So please don't quote quacks to me unless your intention is to make me giggle. I've already stated here for the record that I believe you're an internet shill, and I've seen nothing since then to change my opinion, only to reinforce it. Namaste, and much love and light to you all. David. DAVID WHAT ARE YOU SO ANGRY ABOUT? I HAVE BEEN ON THESE SITES ALMOST SINCE THEY CAME OUT, I HAVE THE PICTURES AND SCARS TO SHOW I AIN'T A SHILL Imagining me as a shill would be like me saying your a coconut salsman. I have been nice to you all along but I suspect we have met before as you showed up here making judgment calls on my character, when you are actually the first to call names. It is not very nice to call me names, but I will forgive you, I am a REAL Christian, so you just got my other cheek, please do not make a habit of it. Anyway, yes I did not read all of the one article as I had just come across it, and I had to run out, still it did sound promising to me, although your right there are a lot of nasty greedy people out there in the BIG PHARM trade. Still all folding proteins are not prions and neither are they amyloids. Yes I do quote what I read, that's where I learn, I have read a lot that one little article on the horrors of too much fat was actually not too bad. I am not against coconut oil, so don't be so upset. The fact remains, too much fat can and will kill you as dead as a door nail. Anyway, I suggest we be polite to each other Christians on here get all upset and start calling names too. We are all in the same boat, so relax the rides not over. I will tell you one thing, I know many a people would be dead if not for surgeons and medicine, I know many that have almost been killed by medicine and I know of a bunch that have been medicated to death. Usually it is the ignorant that believe everything the doctor says that die, they take his word even though nothing he says seems right. The people pay less attention to their own lives than their animals, then they french kiss the dog right after it has cleaned its butt. Yeech. If I would have done the doctors do, I would have, a neck operation, a pace maker and a bunch of stents, sorry doc, you just hold up there. There has not been too much of anything I have suggested in western medicine for anyone to try except a few items, one of those was malarial drugs, many of the doctors say they get a good result with Malarial and leprosy drugs. Who am I to rock the boat. I have not tried them but I sure wish somebody would, I was the test dummy, now I am retired. Really Dave, I am not a shill poster, that's all in your head, do you need some pictures of my scars with today's paper in the background? I have a right to question items that I know is not presented correctly prions are not amyloids or visa versa.
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Post by scabdraggr on Feb 23, 2013 8:49:29 GMT -5
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Post by Baraka Obam on Feb 23, 2013 9:09:07 GMT -5
Hey There big guy, that is the truth, just do not know about the fugus statement, then I am sure we are covered with more than just fungus.
Your last picture of yours, the tiny dark sasuage links, exactly what was this anomoly in, where did you get that from, what part of the body did you harvest that from?
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Post by violet on Feb 23, 2013 9:28:09 GMT -5
Dave, I know your really gung ho on the coconut oil and all that but I really do not imagine that it is the answer, Just imagine that what your seeing as affect, coconut oil has effect, you see effect as cure. This kinda suggests to me that you do not imagine this disease and its power correctly, it is not a simple kill it with oil disease. What your suggesting to try is harmless to most people unless their cholesterol is too high. Coconut oil is 90% saturated fat, yes it does this and that, but fat is fat, you should only have so much fat in your blood, it can clog up your heart. www.askdoctork.com/is-coconut-oil-good-for-you-201207042173My thinking on the matter, you have just started with the ugly side of the disease. When the lesions come out that says LONG TERM involvement, it also says something has changed that has erupted them. Some people have a bum rush of complete cover by the lesions. Very unusual is the torso, while arms, hands,fingers, feet, legs and face are the most prolific. I wish with all my heart for everyones sake that healing was as easy as a tub of coconut oil. In my case I have ingested and used on my skin, 8 to 10 32 oz bottles, I have not used it exactly as you have because my cholesterol was getting high, blood pressure was over the top, so I had to be cautious. There are other items I have used that get massive results. I have a very funny feeling the hidden lesions in the legs are responsible for PAD They told me I had this at one point. www.mayoclinic.com/health/peripheral-arterial-disease/DS00537 Dave I have read all the articles on coconut oil and I want to believe everything they write about it, but after trying it I do not believe everything. I do know there is something strange about it, different, in the way it will work on the skin and hair, the hair will soon after taking, like after the very first time when you get in the shower the hair feels silky, bacon greasy does not have that effect, also the skin looks more vibrant. The first batch I got had no coconut flavor, for me that was better for cooking, I do not like my food flavored. B: Thanks for posting the Mayo Clinic article on coconut oil. Very good information.
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Post by violet on Feb 23, 2013 9:44:25 GMT -5
Amazing! You've actually quoted links in your posts. Well, if you go back and actually READ your Wikipedia links, you'll see that both prions and amyloids consist of inappropriately-folded proteins. In other words, they both have the same building blocks. The DAPH molecules simply alter the behaviour of the fibrils and amyloids. Which means it will only alleviate symptoms - it will never remove the underlying cause. In other words, it's yet another unending revenue stream. Business as usual for Big Pharma. My proposed remedy EATS these proteins. And, please. your authority on coconut oil is a Harvard Medical School MD? You know, the same people who confidently tell you your disease is delusional and you need to see a psychiatrist? All the while trying to keep as far away from you as they possibly can? Give me a break. Please understand this: with the exception of trauma medicine, ALL allopathic medicine is a gigantic fraud perpetrated on humanity to enrich a few and control the many. And I intend to prove that in my next website update. So please don't quote quacks to me unless your intention is to make me giggle. I've already stated here for the record that I believe you're an internet shill, and I've seen nothing since then to change my opinion, only to reinforce it. Namaste, and much love and light to you all. David. David, I have to speak up about the "quacks." Though we know something is certainly going on with our government and whatever it is they are trying to do with us by allowing GM'd food and spraying the skies, there are so many exceptionally good and emminently qualified and honest and caring doctors. To put them all in a group and call them quacks is certainly unfair and far, far from the truth. I'm disappointed when I hear these unfair things said on forums like ours. I worked at an internationally respected medical school with some of the very top physician/researcher/professors, and I can attest to their hard work from early morning to into the evening and their commitment to their patients. And I'm sure they are just one of many groups of similar physicians around the world.
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