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Post by absurdlyhaywired on Apr 25, 2014 16:19:33 GMT -5
toni! Look!
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Post by absurdlyhaywired on Apr 25, 2014 18:31:34 GMT -5
Hi everyone, I can't make any sense of my last posts either-lol-sorry. What happened I think is that I tried posting yesterday and it didn't take, saying the site was down. So I reposted and blah, blah, blah and now I see it did something yesterday and I posted again today before I knew that I'd already made a mess. Sorry.
But, anyway, I'm still stuck on thinking these dotted looking "fibers" are the dried, empty stalks of some fruiting body of some slime mold co-infection, the stalk is left over after the spore cap releases the spores/amoeba. I can't explain it with my m brain as it is these days. You'd have to read about the slime mold life cycle and check out some photos.
I'm kind of around here too but too tired to say much. I'm doing better in some ways and I'll post about that on a different thread.
P.S. I forgot to answer your ? about magnification, toni. Those last pics I posted are 100x.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Apr 25, 2014 18:42:46 GMT -5
Toni, it is nice to see your back and well. I am sorry about my manners, they are horrid, still its my passion to look deep at assumtions, try to make sure we do our homework, you want it to be nematodes, I would be surprised if you can find the answer on line to prove these assumptions. I really hope you can, it would be nice to see some real sleuthing being done. Why don't you guys prove me wrong, slap me right across the yap with a big wet nematode, a 27 foot whale nematode, LOL. i am still proud of the way a group of people looked for and found one bugs ID together. At that time people worked together and we found a answer, it was a small step for man a giant step for mankind, LOL. I was for once happy about our searching, we identified a bug. A very interesting bug actually. A bug being manipulated by man to infest other bugs with their young and kill them. I would beg to differ on some things being fact and some things being said as to fit a explanation. Demodex are easy to see facts of skin infestation, nematodes are also easy to see in the excrement, why would nematodes leave their coat inside our colon but never be seen in the poo poo alive. We have seen and posted this material before, so has scabdragger, in sheets that are large, they would have to be snakes to wear that coat of molting. The material is the same material you have posted, the picture you show of a drawn nematode does not have that diamond back snake skin on it only bumps on the side. This is a drawn picture. like I said I have seen sheets of this stuff that came from the colon, question is actually how did you get things that I have taken out of poop on your face. A possible idea, the red pulp hidden under the skin making this pattern from the caviar like cells that make up the red material in the lesion/TUMOR. Did you or do you have a red mark or lesion there. I think it looks much more like the covering of a layer of the caviar like orbs in lesions, still I can not say, I did not see what it came off of, could it be part of the so called fake skin. This material in the colon is the very yellow color of the mucus that also came out. I can not swear what it is but what I can say is if the piece that came out of me was wrapped around a nematode, my nematode was the biggest grand daddy nematode ever. You would have to high five me! If old scabdragger is still alive I think he may be able to shed/molt some light on this, he would also concur at the size of some of the sheets of this material he has viewed. If there were nematodes in you I am sure you can produce some living wigglers in your doo doo, that would be grand to see, I would love to see one person produce anything living from inside them. So far lostintime has and I have, we have not shown to be infested, but we both produced, A, as in ONE, living moving worm and a pupae looking thing under microscope. It seems the nematode can be seen with the microscope, even with only the eye, as shown in the following illustration so it should not be hard to show these if you are infested with them . I do not think I will ever eat whale sushi, whales got a nematode 27 feet long, ouch. is you had one of those you would look like a monkey with a tail!!! mint.ippc.orst.edu/nemaintro.htmHere are some facts, many if not all of us are sprouting fibers, many of us have severe itching bouts, many of us have manifested lesions, many of us are afflicted with unending symptoms of declining health, many of these symptoms are expressed in the majority, such as CRS, hair loss, greasy head, teeth getting loose, and so many other things we could write a diary about them and they keep coming. These are sort of like facts, here is another fact, so many people have to prove infestation because that was their first thought because of itching, i have been itching lately but do not even bother to look I just scratch that itch. I can not say I have never seen a bug come out of my skin, but that bug is so common that if it is the itching problem they would have eaten me down to the bone by now and would be the size of a big mouth bass from eating all of me they can, or is that just what the itching feels like when it is at its worst!!! Yuppers Demodex are sure ugly creatures.
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Post by toni on Apr 26, 2014 4:57:10 GMT -5
Hi Baraka,
Thank you, I'm feeling pretty good healthwise, (still have "morgs"), it's just easier to see now, if that makes sense. Well, (things) sort of make sense better, or of course that's how I try and think anyways, can't let it scare us off because that won't make it go away, so it's not seeming so bizarre I guess. Knowing how in nature pigments "operate" hehe, that too imho helps me see that those kinds of goodies under the scope aren't anything brand new to life, they were just brand new to me, back then.
And I know what you mean about so many people (falling apart) healthwise with their symptoms. Beyond sad it is. Yes, this stuff (depletes)the body, so we must replenish it or we'll have bigger issues, like you said, the hair, the skin, and on and on problems. Like a simple cramp in our foot...(that means something) is how I see it, and if we keep getting a cramp, maybe up the avocados or banana intake, ((( things like that ))) that we can do. Listen to the body crying for help in areas it's weakening, and then help it. We have to pay attention to what's lacking in our bodies since we are and have been - on our own. I'm not saying a banana is going to fix this, of course not at all...but, if don't "neglect" the cries.... that can help.
I will say too, you do have a good point - as I understand the bottom line here (re: Morgs) and in this case,
with the nematodes. I get it Baraka, you're passionate as I am, and the gray areas (assumptions) really just are NOT good enough. I know. We're past the "guessing/assumptions" and when we find "something on the internet it DOES need some major "book proof to be good enough". And I am and will try to do just that. I will try and prove what I've posted - not that I "want it to be" as I really don't want nems to be any part of this, but I need to know reality, as I too get carried away in my own world with this, hehe, and yes, undoubting proof, yes, (it's needed)...I need to know, WE NEED to know. I get it more than you know, or I hope you see, I'm like you (somewhere in there too). And being close at this point, or it sorta is like this, and that... isn't hardly enough. I get it, I agree.
I already AM my "devils advocate" and I'm glad you understand and am too.
The "part on the specimen" I'm calling a "flap" is called the pharnx. It's shaped differently (just depending) on the species of nematode. I'll find something ...because I need to know (for certain). I'll send out the pictures to experts, because I need to know. I'll also share "what I learn from them"....because WE NEED to know for sure. Yes, close isn't good enough.
I know in my posts I was so adamant about it, (locked on, all fours) if you know what I mean. Nutted out with this, meaning.. enough is enough, but....that's not enough to stop this either. God don't we wish it were?
I think I know also what you mean about those "orbs" as you call them. At first I thought it was our (hair follicles) infected.
Then as time went on, I see I can "pluck the same specimens" not the nematode looking things, but more like "seed things, or the orb things" you speak of, right out of my face, and I can get the same looking specimens out of my finger tips and balls of my feet too.
So, what hit me was, we DON'T have hair follicles on the tips of our fingers or the balls of our feet! duh...hehe So ...it can't be our "hair follicles" this stuff spews out of (like the sweat glands) and onto the top of our skin, making that "callus" type over keratinized layer that's so hard to take off. I did find that (ELIMITE) actually will dissolve that *keratinized layer* of "like" biofilm or top layer of callus. Interesting that "Elimite" ((( liquefies ))) chitin. And it works for that "top layers removal" on us. That means something, but I don't know "just what" exactly.
And....even more scarier, (it could be our SWEAT GLANDS). Ever look at that? Not good. I know I'm branching another direction, but there's so much. Well, don't want to go 100 directions right now, but....I get it, *what you mean*, and I appreciate what you have to say BO, as when you speak "humanly" ...I'm All ears because (it's important)and I know it.
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Post by threader on Apr 26, 2014 11:15:03 GMT -5
I don't know that Morgellons is nematode related, but I do know that I feel great on anthelmintics, and when I take them these always float to the surface of the toilet: flic.kr/p/gmt7XBOccam's razor would suggest...
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Post by toni on Apr 27, 2014 10:54:14 GMT -5
That's a great pic of that specimen you've found Threader. I sure can't imagine either what that is, especially since you can see it with the naked eye.
The nematodes I believe I have on my slide, and at a min of 400X magnification, whether they're the molts of juveniles (again, imho), that (Pharynx) *flap thing* I'd drawn white around in the picture on the previous page is an incredible key to identifying species, or "family", besides the "stylet" which IF the molt has occurred, then the stylet wouldn't be present - as in my specimens on the previous page.
Be back with some info.
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Post by toni on Apr 27, 2014 10:57:54 GMT -5
oops wrong one.
Be back.
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Post by lostintime on Apr 27, 2014 12:08:59 GMT -5
How many people have had this orderd by the doctor? Or do you just get the stupid old question...Have you been out of the country laitly?
The standard method for diagnosing active infection is the identification of microfilariae in a blood smear by microscopic examination. The microfilariae that cause lymphatic filariasis circulate in the blood at night (called nocturnal periodicity). Blood collection should be done at night to coincide with the appearance of the microfilariae, and a thick smear should be made and stained with Giemsa or hematoxylin and eosin. For increased sensitivity, concentration techniques can be used.
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Post by toni on Apr 27, 2014 13:04:47 GMT -5
Approx 1,000 mag Just wanted to share "this outlined part" and how (it may) coincide with diagram A. Anyways, hopefully someone out there in parasitology will reply that I've written to, and then maybe things will make more sense of what this really is or not.
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Post by toni on Apr 27, 2014 17:33:36 GMT -5
IF IF these were involved, we'd not ever see them in "poo poo samples". From link: The adult parasitic female worm is rarely seen in the stool specimen, as it matures and lives inside the intestines. It is one of the smallest known parasites to infect humans, approaching lengths of about 2 mm. Males are thought to not be parasitic, and if they are, they are eliminated from the body early in the infection. Image from www.ym.edu.twwww.stanford.edu/group/parasites/ParaSites2006/Strongylodiasis/morphology.html
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Post by Baraka Obam on Apr 28, 2014 23:06:16 GMT -5
If the male is eliminate early on in the infection then how will the female fertilize eggs and if those eggs hatch they will certainly contain males that will be exuded in the excrement. A quote from the CDC How soon after the exposure do symptoms develop? Most people do not know when their exposure occurred. For those who do, a local rash can occur immediately. The cough usually occurs several days later. Abdominal symptoms typically occur approximately 2 weeks later, and larvae can be found in the stool about 3 to 4 weeks later. www.cdc.gov/parasites/strongyloides/gen_info/faqs.html
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Post by toni on Apr 29, 2014 9:22:23 GMT -5
I've not looked in a long long time, in the (toilet bowl) - because I can get enough of these specimens right out of my skin.
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Post by toni on Apr 29, 2014 9:23:46 GMT -5
Wanted to share ( the molt of a demodex mite). The skins on the demodex are quite a different pattern than "the specimens that look like Nematodes) imho.
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Post by absurdlyhaywired on Apr 29, 2014 19:59:41 GMT -5
If the male is eliminate early on in the infection then how will the female fertilize eggs and if those eggs hatch they will certainly contain males that will be exuded in the excrement." Hi-I did read about some that can change sex and also eggs that are all female and already "pregnant". It's true, I can't tell you exactly what it was I was reading about-but I'm sure I could look it up if we need to know. Seems that life of all kinds is always finding ways around all circumstances.
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Post by toni on Apr 30, 2014 7:03:44 GMT -5
Absurdly, I read something too like you're saying and I believe too, they have the way "down pat". Maybe they're impregnated "before the male is ousted". Like the black widow. The female uses them - as nature intended, then they're history - dinner. And with nematodes, yes, it "seems I too read something like what you're saying also". They're complete units. Regardless, they have it down to be successful. It's us that's just not aware of all the details. BO, there is lot of literature on it, I know I sure can't say, as I'm not well read on that subject at all. I'm only sharing the (junk) I get out of my skin. I've not had any symptoms "that would even warrant me to look at poo-poo-pee-do", as I've got enough stuff coming out of my face I can see that keeps me busy. I don't know what's what, ((((that's the bottom line)))), just what I see is all I have to go on.
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Post by toni on May 1, 2014 12:33:42 GMT -5
Sorry guys, I now see ( more stuff). Geeze, I really thought this "was" something. But.....
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