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Post by toni on Oct 27, 2014 12:44:15 GMT -5
I would agree that if the permethrin would take away the protective layer from around the lesion/TUMOR, the immune system could better do its job. With this plastic white barrier in place I do not believe the immune system can see the lesion/TUMOR for what it is. That is only talking about the lesion/TUMORS, I do not know if the lesion/TUMORS are just a opportunistic issues/disease or is it a long term result of the infection. What you posted is interesting, big milk covered lips kisses to you and a hug. I hope your on to something, the pictures are quite impressive.
Well I'll be.... A HOPE- something positive from you, my goodness, thank you, and I am................. (on to something ) First, getting this infection gone by first realizing we're not dealing with something impossible, and hoping others too will see that, no need for any more people to die or be as sick as they've been.
This stuff needs ripped apart. Of course IF Lyme Disease is predominant (that's another issue) and "infection".
But keeping to basics...one thing at a time, (realize it) and then treat it the best way you and your doc can, or by yourself, and by maintaining "safe applications, no matter what".
Of course there's LOTS going on, (and who really knows how that came to be) but one thing we do know is it's not "a common infection". It "seems to be" very multifaceted, which that too is nothing new.
I do want to say (AGAIN for those who may have scalp issues) - THAT AS UNorthodox as the PLAIN YOGURT (LIVE CULTURE) *it will say on the carton*, seems, JUST mix 1/4 to 1/2 cup plain live culture yogurt with approx. 4 tbls. 2% milk and apply it. Not too watery, and not too thick. You'll see, it's easy.
TO DATE, THERE IS NOTHING BETTER FOR TREATING THE SCALP. Wrong word, treating, In this case YOU CAN CURE YOUR SCALP.
And here's how great it is. It (((( CURES )))) it COMPLETELY RIDS ANY scalp issues.
So...if it's done incorrectly, it CANNOT work. It's quite simple so don't "mix anything you think might work, because that will negate what this does to your scalp". You need an antibacterial (soap to wash your scalp and hair every day with) BEFORE and after applying the mix.
The milk mixed with the yogurt (shaken in a jar to a *hair conditioner* consistency WILL, and I don't mean (kind of)...it WILL RID ANY scalp issues anyone's gotten from this nightmare. So save your hair, save your scalp, it's cheap, and it's easy. The ONLY thing is...you've got to wear it a couple or few days. Wear it on your scalp thick for 24 hrs, then wash with an antibacterial soap. Pat your hair dry and put it on again. Do this for 3 days..you'll see.
So I don't know if I'm the only one that sees that "giving up a few days to WEAR this on their head like a conditioning pack treatment is WAY worth not losing their hair, or even having sores on their head....well, to me, it's SO worth keeping hair that took YEARS to grow, let alone THE TORTURE SOME EXPERIENCE IN THEIR SCALPS, because there's no need to cut, shave, buy all kinds of (non working topicals) or even suffer...when a few days out of your life using this mix, WILL not only spare your scalp, but you'll save your hair and sanity too, from those ticklies. It's really something how this works, but...it's also really something (how it works if you know what I mean as far as compositions go)... THERE IS MORE HERE THAN MEETS THE EYE GOING ON.
.
I know "it seems" or we've all been conditioned that "pain is gain" but that too is a lie. Sometimes (just the correct MIX for whatever reason, really will do the complete JOB).
So, giggle about (the mix)....and lose your hair, but....I've kept every single one of mine (since THE BEGINNING of Morgellons) and ALL because of (the milk and yogurt).
I'm sure BO, you'll have a heyday with this, but...YOU, and YOU alone (one day may see) how your ignorance HURT others-well, the ones that will take you on "your word" without even trying something so "innocently simple".
Now IF I were recommending something horribly dangerous...then I could see you "trying to help others by telling them there's no way this works. Or whatever you need to do, because my mission IS to help others GET WHERE I AM TODAY. But, IF anyone doesn't know by now (that I AM ONLY here to help) and I'm not some frivolous NUT, then that person has to ask themselves, yeah...why in the world would someone (LIKE ME) since I'm not one to go off into left field on a tangent...KEEP SAYING this??? Hummmm guess what, there really is something to this.
And just because WE don't know "what exactly HOW IT WORKS AND WHY"..by no means does that mean it doesn't work.
And that too would be one of the most ignorant reasons to NOT try something so simple, *because one thinks it can't* but...I'm sure with your mouth BO, you may stop (some) from even trying it. What a guy! That's what I call a person NOT working for or in the best interest of others, because BO, you know nothing, not even the FACTS about scopes that you claim to see "specimens" from. You're not who you say you are either, ((((( I DO KNOW THAT))))... but, in time that will come out too. Because I'm here to say it again, since you brought it up, this mix will CURE YOUR SCALPS.
So, it's there, (for whomever WANTS to have a PERFECT SCALP AND PERFECT HAIR FOLLICLES ON THEIR SCALPS AGAIN).
That's all this is, take it or leave it, use it or not....but I walk away feeling GOOD, because I'm not leading anyone down a BS path and I have GIVEN ANY ONE with scalp issues a way to get back to normal. YES, normal. ((( your scalps that is))), just like they're suppose to be. And that proof will come (when any one breaks out of the mold form that has the idea that just because it's too simple it can't work).
It will.
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Post by itchin4answers on Oct 27, 2014 13:47:04 GMT -5
I would agree that if the permethrin would take away the protective layer from around the lesion/TUMOR, the immune system could better do its job. With this plastic white barrier in place I do not believe the immune system can see the lesion/TUMOR for what it is. That is only talking about the lesion/TUMORS, I do not know if the lesion/TUMORS are just a opportunistic issues/disease or is it a long term result of the infection. What you posted is interesting, big milk covered lips kisses to you and a hug. I hope your on to something, the pictures are quite impressive.
Well I'll be.... A HOPE- something positive from you, my goodness, thank you, and I am................. (on to something ) First, getting this infection gone by first realizing we're not dealing with something impossible, and hoping others too will see that, no need for any more people to die or be as sick as they've been.
This stuff needs ripped apart. Of course IF Lyme Disease is predominant (that's another issue) and "infection".
But keeping to basics...one thing at a time, (realize it) and then treat it the best way you and your doc can, or by yourself, and by maintaining "safe applications, no matter what".
Of course there's LOTS going on, (and who really knows how that came to be) but one thing we do know is it's not "a common infection". It "seems to be" very multifaceted, which that too is nothing new.
I do want to say (AGAIN for those who may have scalp issues) - THAT AS UNorthodox as the PLAIN YOGURT (LIVE CULTURE) *it will say on the carton*, seems, JUST mix 1/4 to 1/2 cup plain live culture yogurt with approx. 4 tbls. 2% milk and apply it. Not too watery, and not too thick. You'll see, it's easy.
TO DATE, THERE IS NOTHING BETTER FOR TREATING THE SCALP. Wrong word, treating, In this case YOU CAN CURE YOUR SCALP.
And here's how great it is. It (((( CURES )))) it COMPLETELY RIDS ANY scalp issues.
So...if it's done incorrectly, it CANNOT work. It's quite simple so don't "mix anything you think might work, because that will negate what this does to your scalp". You need an antibacterial (soap to wash your scalp and hair every day with) BEFORE and after applying the mix.
The milk mixed with the yogurt (shaken in a jar to a *hair conditioner* consistency WILL, and I don't mean (kind of)...it WILL RID ANY scalp issues anyone's gotten from this nightmare. So save your hair, save your scalp, it's cheap, and it's easy. The ONLY thing is...you've got to wear it a couple or few days. Wear it on your scalp thick for 24 hrs, then wash with an antibacterial soap. Pat your hair dry and put it on again. Do this for 3 days..you'll see.
So I don't know if I'm the only one that sees that "giving up a few days to WEAR this on their head like a conditioning pack treatment is WAY worth not losing their hair, or even having sores on their head....well, to me, it's SO worth keeping hair that took YEARS to grow, let alone THE TORTURE SOME EXPERIENCE IN THEIR SCALPS, because there's no need to cut, shave, buy all kinds of (non working topicals) or even suffer...when a few days out of your life using this mix, WILL not only spare your scalp, but you'll save your hair and sanity too, from those ticklies. It's really something how this works, but...it's also really something (how it works if you know what I mean as far as compositions go)... THERE IS MORE HERE THAN MEETS THE EYE GOING ON.
.
I know "it seems" or we've all been conditioned that "pain is gain" but that too is a lie. Sometimes (just the correct MIX for whatever reason, really will do the complete JOB).
So, giggle about (the mix)....and lose your hair, but....I've kept every single one of mine (since THE BEGINNING of Morgellons) and ALL because of (the milk and yogurt).
I'm sure BO, you'll have a heyday with this, but...YOU, and YOU alone (one day may see) how your ignorance HURT others-well, the ones that will take you on "your word" without even trying something so "innocently simple".
Now IF I were recommending something horribly dangerous...then I could see you "trying to help others by telling them there's no way this works. Or whatever you need to do, because my mission IS to help others GET WHERE I AM TODAY. But, IF anyone doesn't know by now (that I AM ONLY here to help) and I'm not some frivolous NUT, then that person has to ask themselves, yeah...why in the world would someone (LIKE ME) since I'm not one to go off into left field on a tangent...KEEP SAYING this??? Hummmm guess what, there really is something to this.
And just because WE don't know "what exactly HOW IT WORKS AND WHY"..by no means does that mean it doesn't work.
And that too would be one of the most ignorant reasons to NOT try something so simple, *because one thinks it can't* but...I'm sure with your mouth BO, you may stop (some) from even trying it. What a guy! That's what I call a person NOT working for or in the best interest of others, because BO, you know nothing, not even the FACTS about scopes that you claim to see "specimens" from. You're not who you say you are either, ((((( I DO KNOW THAT))))... but, in time that will come out too. Because I'm here to say it again, since you brought it up, this mix will CURE YOUR SCALPS.
So, it's there, (for whomever WANTS to have a PERFECT SCALP AND PERFECT HAIR FOLLICLES ON THEIR SCALPS AGAIN).
That's all this is, take it or leave it, use it or not....but I walk away feeling GOOD, because I'm not leading anyone down a BS path and I have GIVEN ANY ONE with scalp issues a way to get back to normal. YES, normal. ((( your scalps that is))), just like they're suppose to be. And that proof will come (when any one breaks out of the mold form that has the idea that just because it's too simple it can't work).
It will.
Thank you toni, this is extremely valuable. I will definitely be trying this once I've moved, which won't be far away. I was reading your post, my partner is scratching his scalp showing me on the tip of his finger the grit that comes from his scalp. So I quickly told him the recipe and hehe of course milk and yogurt made him pull a face lol Great information!
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Post by Baraka Obam on Oct 27, 2014 15:27:17 GMT -5
What I say to you my little word twister, CURE you can CURE the scalp with milk, really, I suggest a method to prove your assumption. I know what you say is no more that a assumption, THE CURE you will NEVER hear me say that word, ever, because I can not PROVE I am correct. That is the difference between me and a person that spews forth improvable facts, a lacky will say anything , anything at all, they do not care if they can prove it, they just like to spew. I would bet $1000 that your involvement may have healed over but it is certainly not gone, I have seen the monster up close and personal, its tough and no milk bath will kill the growth. I hope everyone trys your simple and harmless method, then takes GRAPEFRUIT SEED EXTRACT full strength and rubs it over their CURED scalp, you are not going to like what you see or feel. When this is gone from the scalp GSE will not activate on the scalp there will be no irritation, if the monster is in control of the area there will be a reaction so painful you would want to scalp yourself. When it is gone there will not even be a little irritation. I did this the hard way, there has to be a better way to use the GSE then full strength with reaction from hell, still after 3 times it was gone, notice I do not say cured. I would agree that if the permethrin would take away the protective layer from around the lesion/TUMOR, the immune system could better do its job. With this plastic white barrier in place I do not believe the immune system can see the lesion/TUMOR for what it is. That is only talking about the lesion/TUMORS, I do not know if the lesion/TUMORS are just a opportunistic issues/disease or is it a long term result of the infection. What you posted is interesting, big milk covered lips kisses to you and a hug. I hope your on to something, the pictures are quite impressive.
Well I'll be.... A HOPE- something positive from you, my goodness, thank you, and I am................. (on to something ) First, getting this infection gone by first realizing we're not dealing with something impossible, and hoping others too will see that, no need for any more people to die or be as sick as they've been.
This stuff needs ripped apart. Of course IF Lyme Disease is predominant (that's another issue) and "infection".
But keeping to basics...one thing at a time, (realize it) and then treat it the best way you and your doc can, or by yourself, and by maintaining "safe applications, no matter what".
Of course there's LOTS going on, (and who really knows how that came to be) but one thing we do know is it's not "a common infection". It "seems to be" very multifaceted, which that too is nothing new.
I do want to say (AGAIN for those who may have scalp issues) - THAT AS UNorthodox as the PLAIN YOGURT (LIVE CULTURE) *it will say on the carton*, seems, JUST mix 1/4 to 1/2 cup plain live culture yogurt with approx. 4 tbls. 2% milk and apply it. Not too watery, and not too thick. You'll see, it's easy.
TO DATE, THERE IS NOTHING BETTER FOR TREATING THE SCALP. Wrong word, treating, In this case YOU CAN CURE YOUR SCALP.
And here's how great it is. It (((( CURES )))) it COMPLETELY RIDS ANY scalp issues.
So...if it's done incorrectly, it CANNOT work. It's quite simple so don't "mix anything you think might work, because that will negate what this does to your scalp". You need an antibacterial (soap to wash your scalp and hair every day with) BEFORE and after applying the mix.
The milk mixed with the yogurt (shaken in a jar to a *hair conditioner* consistency WILL, and I don't mean (kind of)...it WILL RID ANY scalp issues anyone's gotten from this nightmare. So save your hair, save your scalp, it's cheap, and it's easy. The ONLY thing is...you've got to wear it a couple or few days. Wear it on your scalp thick for 24 hrs, then wash with an antibacterial soap. Pat your hair dry and put it on again. Do this for 3 days..you'll see.
So I don't know if I'm the only one that sees that "giving up a few days to WEAR this on their head like a conditioning pack treatment is WAY worth not losing their hair, or even having sores on their head....well, to me, it's SO worth keeping hair that took YEARS to grow, let alone THE TORTURE SOME EXPERIENCE IN THEIR SCALPS, because there's no need to cut, shave, buy all kinds of (non working topicals) or even suffer...when a few days out of your life using this mix, WILL not only spare your scalp, but you'll save your hair and sanity too, from those ticklies. It's really something how this works, but...it's also really something (how it works if you know what I mean as far as compositions go)... THERE IS MORE HERE THAN MEETS THE EYE GOING ON.
.
I know "it seems" or we've all been conditioned that "pain is gain" but that too is a lie. Sometimes (just the correct MIX for whatever reason, really will do the complete JOB).
So, giggle about (the mix)....and lose your hair, but....I've kept every single one of mine (since THE BEGINNING of Morgellons) and ALL because of (the milk and yogurt).
I'm sure BO, you'll have a heyday with this, but...YOU, and YOU alone (one day may see) how your ignorance HURT others-well, the ones that will take you on "your word" without even trying something so "innocently simple".
Now IF I were recommending something horribly dangerous...then I could see you "trying to help others by telling them there's no way this works. Or whatever you need to do, because my mission IS to help others GET WHERE I AM TODAY. But, IF anyone doesn't know by now (that I AM ONLY here to help) and I'm not some frivolous NUT, then that person has to ask themselves, yeah...why in the world would someone (LIKE ME) since I'm not one to go off into left field on a tangent...KEEP SAYING this??? Hummmm guess what, there really is something to this.
And just because WE don't know "what exactly HOW IT WORKS AND WHY"..by no means does that mean it doesn't work.
And that too would be one of the most ignorant reasons to NOT try something so simple, *because one thinks it can't* but...I'm sure with your mouth BO, you may stop (some) from even trying it. What a guy! That's what I call a person NOT working for or in the best interest of others, because BO, you know nothing, not even the FACTS about scopes that you claim to see "specimens" from. You're not who you say you are either, ((((( I DO KNOW THAT))))... but, in time that will come out too. Because I'm here to say it again, since you brought it up, this mix will CURE YOUR SCALPS.
So, it's there, (for whomever WANTS to have a PERFECT SCALP AND PERFECT HAIR FOLLICLES ON THEIR SCALPS AGAIN).
That's all this is, take it or leave it, use it or not....but I walk away feeling GOOD, because I'm not leading anyone down a BS path and I have GIVEN ANY ONE with scalp issues a way to get back to normal. YES, normal. ((( your scalps that is))), just like they're suppose to be. And that proof will come (when any one breaks out of the mold form that has the idea that just because it's too simple it can't work).
It will.
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Post by toni on Oct 27, 2014 19:17:25 GMT -5
Hi Itchin and BO.
I will read your posts for sure Itchin but I can't right now (things to take care of) (have to stuff) - and BO I'll read yours too. Which I did want to say something that I've never said before on this board, in almost 10 years. Actually since 2005 (as I was Tonie with an E) but that acct got accidentally deleted and (not by me)-so I stayed, but continued as toni with an I. Like that matters, it doesn't. Just proving another point in case BO wants to see "when I joined" the board membership won't reflect that, but "everyone who's still here knows that".
I - up until TODAY have (never claimed) something to "be or not". I'll say words such as : "IT SEEMS" or "IT LOOKS LIKE" or "IT MIGHT"...words like that, as I've always been very careful to NOT look like a fool and make a DEFINITIVE statement about anything UNLESS I could back it up in black and white. Right? That is correct, as that IS the way I am.
So today, yes, I made a blatant statement, (about the milk and yorgurt) for the scalp to be CURED.
And BO, yes, that's correct, I "after all these years, and against my own nature" in making a blatant definitive statement....am saying (this to be true) no matter (what you think you know) or (don't know) or who knows what they know or don't. That's irrelevant, honestly it is.
Now, it must be used exact as I'm NOT saying this "for ANY milk and yogurt". If you use the correct 2 ingredients ON YOUR SCALP, (because of what we call morgs) you'll CURE (that area in your life) as far as this stuff goes.
I am saying exactly that BO, cures (the scalp issues).
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Post by itchin4answers on Oct 28, 2014 6:15:31 GMT -5
Well I'll be.... A HOPE- something positive from you, my goodness, thank you, and I am................. (on to something ) First, getting this infection gone by first realizing we're not dealing with something impossible, and hoping others too will see that, no need for any more people to die or be as sick as they've been.
This stuff needs ripped apart. Of course IF Lyme Disease is predominant (that's another issue) and "infection".
But keeping to basics...one thing at a time, (realize it) and then treat it the best way you and your doc can, or by yourself, and by maintaining "safe applications, no matter what".
Of course there's LOTS going on, (and who really knows how that came to be) but one thing we do know is it's not "a common infection". It "seems to be" very multifaceted, which that too is nothing new.
I do want to say (AGAIN for those who may have scalp issues) - THAT AS UNorthodox as the PLAIN YOGURT (LIVE CULTURE) *it will say on the carton*, seems, JUST mix 1/4 to 1/2 cup plain live culture yogurt with approx. 4 tbls. 2% milk and apply it. Not too watery, and not too thick. You'll see, it's easy.
TO DATE, THERE IS NOTHING BETTER FOR TREATING THE SCALP. Wrong word, treating, In this case YOU CAN CURE YOUR SCALP.
And here's how great it is. It (((( CURES )))) it COMPLETELY RIDS ANY scalp issues.
So...if it's done incorrectly, it CANNOT work. It's quite simple so don't "mix anything you think might work, because that will negate what this does to your scalp". You need an antibacterial (soap to wash your scalp and hair every day with) BEFORE and after applying the mix.
The milk mixed with the yogurt (shaken in a jar to a *hair conditioner* consistency WILL, and I don't mean (kind of)...it WILL RID ANY scalp issues anyone's gotten from this nightmare. So save your hair, save your scalp, it's cheap, and it's easy. The ONLY thing is...you've got to wear it a couple or few days. Wear it on your scalp thick for 24 hrs, then wash with an antibacterial soap. Pat your hair dry and put it on again. Do this for 3 days..you'll see.
So I don't know if I'm the only one that sees that "giving up a few days to WEAR this on their head like a conditioning pack treatment is WAY worth not losing their hair, or even having sores on their head....well, to me, it's SO worth keeping hair that took YEARS to grow, let alone THE TORTURE SOME EXPERIENCE IN THEIR SCALPS, because there's no need to cut, shave, buy all kinds of (non working topicals) or even suffer...when a few days out of your life using this mix, WILL not only spare your scalp, but you'll save your hair and sanity too, from those ticklies. It's really something how this works, but...it's also really something (how it works if you know what I mean as far as compositions go)... THERE IS MORE HERE THAN MEETS THE EYE GOING ON.
.
I know "it seems" or we've all been conditioned that "pain is gain" but that too is a lie. Sometimes (just the correct MIX for whatever reason, really will do the complete JOB).
So, giggle about (the mix)....and lose your hair, but....I've kept every single one of mine (since THE BEGINNING of Morgellons) and ALL because of (the milk and yogurt).
I'm sure BO, you'll have a heyday with this, but...YOU, and YOU alone (one day may see) how your ignorance HURT others-well, the ones that will take you on "your word" without even trying something so "innocently simple".
Now IF I were recommending something horribly dangerous...then I could see you "trying to help others by telling them there's no way this works. Or whatever you need to do, because my mission IS to help others GET WHERE I AM TODAY. But, IF anyone doesn't know by now (that I AM ONLY here to help) and I'm not some frivolous NUT, then that person has to ask themselves, yeah...why in the world would someone (LIKE ME) since I'm not one to go off into left field on a tangent...KEEP SAYING this??? Hummmm guess what, there really is something to this.
And just because WE don't know "what exactly HOW IT WORKS AND WHY"..by no means does that mean it doesn't work.
And that too would be one of the most ignorant reasons to NOT try something so simple, *because one thinks it can't* but...I'm sure with your mouth BO, you may stop (some) from even trying it. What a guy! That's what I call a person NOT working for or in the best interest of others, because BO, you know nothing, not even the FACTS about scopes that you claim to see "specimens" from. You're not who you say you are either, ((((( I DO KNOW THAT))))... but, in time that will come out too. Because I'm here to say it again, since you brought it up, this mix will CURE YOUR SCALPS.
So, it's there, (for whomever WANTS to have a PERFECT SCALP AND PERFECT HAIR FOLLICLES ON THEIR SCALPS AGAIN).
That's all this is, take it or leave it, use it or not....but I walk away feeling GOOD, because I'm not leading anyone down a BS path and I have GIVEN ANY ONE with scalp issues a way to get back to normal. YES, normal. ((( your scalps that is))), just like they're suppose to be. And that proof will come (when any one breaks out of the mold form that has the idea that just because it's too simple it can't work).
It will.
Thank you toni, this is extremely valuable. I will definitely be trying this once I've moved, which won't be far away. I was reading your post, my partner is scratching his scalp showing me on the tip of his finger the grit that comes from his scalp. So I quickly told him the recipe and hehe of course milk and yogurt made him pull a face lol Great information! I bought Permethrin and aqueous cream. My chemist asked if I was going to cut 50/50. I said I didn't know, he was fine with the idea. That's as far as I've got, not applied to my skin, and won't until I understand what the heck I'm doing!...lol
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Post by toni on Oct 28, 2014 10:45:03 GMT -5
Thank you toni, this is extremely valuable. I will definitely be trying this once I've moved, which won't be far away. I was reading your post, my partner is scratching his scalp showing me on the tip of his finger the grit that comes from his scalp. So I quickly told him the recipe and hehe of course milk and yogurt made him pull a face lol Great information! I bought Permethrin and aqueous cream. My chemist asked if I was going to cut 50/50. I said I didn't know, he was fine with the idea. That's as far as I've got, not applied to my skin, and won't until I understand what the heck I'm doing!...lol Mornin Itchin, I am SO GLAD you didn't "do anything yet". You're way ahead of me "in posting this morn"...I'm going 10 directions to gather info for you. hehehe I'm SO GLAD you're on this, because "you'll see" as I have, ( we can clean this stuff up to a major degree) where you feel like a human again and never have any break outs anymore. MOST IMPORTANT (I want to get you this info right now) you are doing the right thing, (by holding off right now). And I saw that you bought that "Aqueous Cream"....( that's not a good one at all to mix with Permethrin) not at all, I'm so sorry Itchin. ONLY use (a water based clean cream) no lauryl sulfates, etc. added as ingredients. Be back with (info for you I can find on this). Also, did you get 1% or 5 % permethrin cream? Be back asap.
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Post by toni on Oct 28, 2014 10:50:23 GMT -5
These papers highlight the importance of not using products containing sodium lauryl sulphate, such as aqueous cream, as leave-on emollients as they may act to exacerbate skin damage rather than support skin barrier function.
www.medsafe.govt.nz/profs/PUArticles/AqueousCreamMarch2012.htm
See...that "lauryl sulfate/sulphate in it, which (actually damages your skin), and then "with the transdermal properties of Permethrin" there's too much absorption of the permethrin, and it will result in major irritation. We want to keep your skin in great condition "all while" treating it. Plus, this isn't a "one shot thing"
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Post by toni on Oct 28, 2014 11:50:19 GMT -5
Hi there,
hhahaha of all days, ( I've got a problem with one of my computer "drivers" and all PDF's I can't even click on.) They won't open.
I'll get that fixed in few mins.
And, here's the thing. There's lots of products that are under 5-10 bucks (that do not contain alcohol, or vitamin C or lauryl sulfate) - those are what you want to "cut the permethrin with". A "non oily", yet (water based product), and without any "added type dermal penetrating properties".
Good ones for the skin but you have to watch for "those nasty ingredients above are" :
Aloe gel, or cream (just make sure there's no alcohol) in it or anything nasty that's irritating.
Oh....and the best, (just plain ole GLYCERIN) (TOPICAL glycerine) and it's super cheap for a bottle. under 5 bucks.
Glycerin can be cut with just about anything in the world that's out there for topical use, (seriously, and it's great).
It's water solulable, clean, and probably one of the cheapest things we can use to "cut anything with"...whether for our hair or skin.
Any drug store (and maybe grocery stores) carry it. I think it's like just a few bucks.
That's a good one. So is aloe, (but so many manufacturers add junk that IS irritating) so be careful.
And IF you're going to use "like pure topical glycerin" which is clear as water, but thick like syrup, just use a small/tiny bowl to mix
the two ingredients together: using 1/3 permethrin cream to 2/3rds glycerin. *Important* if you want more "spread factor" add a few drops of water. Water mixed with these 2 products is perfectly fine.
Here's a good example (for one face application). 3 Drops permethrin cream (best as you can-3 drops worth) and then add those 3 drops worth of permethrin to 9 drops of glycerin, or cream of your choice. And, again, water can be added, a few drops.
And then only use that (2x a week). Best to make (fresh applications for EACH use) don't save mixes (unless it's the yog and milk) as that will save a week in the frig.
And it's best to spread those 2 applications for your face days (evenly) spaced in days as best you can for a one week period.
Example: Use this topical application of (permethrin 1/3 to 2/3rds glycerin) on Tues and a Sat. Or like Monday and Friday. Just so the days "are spaced as best as you can". Also, nothing "has to be exact". Really it doesn't. This is only "very approx." but nothing "exact".
And only leave that on your facial skin for no more than an hour each time you use this.
Then just wash and gently pat dry with a clean tissues, so you can throw or flush those tissues away, as it WILL have "critters/demodex" and eggs, and All that yucky stuff in it, PLUS bacteria and the white ich fungi - but "only under the scope can that be seen". Then apply (anything you like as in facial moisturizers, but make sure none have irritating ingredients). Believe me, (((( this facial mix brings it on, UP and OUT))) of our skin. Do this "2X a week, for a month. That's only 8 total applications in a months time. After that 2 X a month is all (that IS forever needed, since Demodex mites WILL come back) because our skin IS where they live. We just don't want them there, as they spread fungi, bacteria and lay more eggs. We have no use for them. They're the cooties, hahaha I'm serious though, (the day those Demodex HELP) well, then I'll feed them myself. Right now, they're vectors. Also your pillow case. This sounds simple, but I will admit, as easy as this is, it IS A PAIN IN THE ARCE. hahahha CHANGE PILLOW CASES DAILY. Otherwise, (re'infection GALORE occurs).
Be back asap.
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Post by itchin4answers on Oct 28, 2014 16:00:14 GMT -5
I bought Permethrin and aqueous cream. My chemist asked if I was going to cut 50/50. I said I didn't know, he was fine with the idea. That's as far as I've got, not applied to my skin, and won't until I understand what the heck I'm doing!...lol Mornin Itchin, I am SO GLAD you didn't "do anything yet". You're way ahead of me "in posting this morn"...I'm going 10 directions to gather info for you. hehehe I'm SO GLAD you're on this, because "you'll see" as I have, ( we can clean this stuff up to a major degree) where you feel like a human again and never have any break outs anymore. MOST IMPORTANT (I want to get you this info right now) you are doing the right thing, (by holding off right now). And I saw that you bought that "Aqueous Cream"....( that's not a good one at all to mix with Permethrin) not at all, I'm so sorry Itchin. ONLY use (a water based clean cream) no lauryl sulfates, etc. added as ingredients. Be back with (info for you I can find on this). Also, did you get 1% or 5 % permethrin cream? Be back asap. The Permethrin is 5%. Is there something I can buy over the counter here to cut with the Permethrin? I am scared to put this on my face. So yes, I am more than happy to hold off lol Thank you toni
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Post by itchin4answers on Oct 28, 2014 16:05:46 GMT -5
Hi there,
hhahaha of all days, ( I've got a problem with one of my computer "drivers" and all PDF's I can't even click on.) They won't open.
I'll get that fixed in few mins.
And, here's the thing. There's lots of products that are under 5-10 bucks (that do not contain alcohol, or vitamin C or lauryl sulfate) - those are what you want to "cut the permethrin with". A "non oily", yet (water based product), and without any "added type dermal penetrating properties".
Good ones for the skin but you have to watch for "those nasty ingredients above are" :
Aloe gel, or cream (just make sure there's no alcohol) in it or anything nasty that's irritating.
Oh....and the best, (just plain ole GLYCERIN) (TOPICAL glycerine) and it's super cheap for a bottle. under 5 bucks.
Glycerin can be cut with just about anything in the world that's out there for topical use, (seriously, and it's great).
It's water solulable, clean, and probably one of the cheapest things we can use to "cut anything with"...whether for our hair or skin.
Any drug store (and maybe grocery stores) carry it. I think it's like just a few bucks.
That's a good one. So is aloe, (but so many manufacturers add junk that IS irritating) so be careful.
And IF you're going to use "like pure topical glycerin" which is clear as water, but thick like syrup, just use a small/tiny bowl to mix
the two ingredients together: using 1/3 permethrin cream to 2/3rds glycerin. *Important* if you want more "spread factor" add a few drops of water. Water mixed with these 2 products is perfectly fine.
Here's a good example (for one face application). 3 Drops permethrin cream (best as you can-3 drops worth) and then add those 3 drops worth of permethrin to 9 drops of glycerin, or cream of your choice. And, again, water can be added, a few drops.
And then only use that (2x a week). Best to make (fresh applications for EACH use) don't save mixes (unless it's the yog and milk) as that will save a week in the frig.
And it's best to spread those 2 applications for your face days (evenly) spaced in days as best you can for a one week period.
Example: Use this topical application of (permethrin 1/3 to 2/3rds glycerin) on Tues and a Sat. Or like Monday and Friday. Just so the days "are spaced as best as you can". Also, nothing "has to be exact". Really it doesn't. This is only "very approx." but nothing "exact".
And only leave that on your facial skin for no more than an hour each time you use this.
Then just wash and gently pat dry with a clean tissues, so you can throw or flush those tissues away, as it WILL have "critters/demodex" and eggs, and All that yucky stuff in it, PLUS bacteria and the white ich fungi - but "only under the scope can that be seen". Then apply (anything you like as in facial moisturizers, but make sure none have irritating ingredients). Believe me, (((( this facial mix brings it on, UP and OUT))) of our skin. Do this "2X a week, for a month. That's only 8 total applications in a months time. After that 2 X a month is all (that IS forever needed, since Demodex mites WILL come back) because our skin IS where they live. We just don't want them there, as they spread fungi, bacteria and lay more eggs. We have no use for them. They're the cooties, hahaha I'm serious though, (the day those Demodex HELP) well, then I'll feed them myself. Right now, they're vectors. Also your pillow case. This sounds simple, but I will admit, as easy as this is, it IS A PAIN IN THE ARCE. hahahha CHANGE PILLOW CASES DAILY. Otherwise, (re'infection GALORE occurs).
Be back asap.
I had read this post toni, then forgot about the glycerine lol. See, I know, I don't need to tell you, this is overwhelming when my brain is struggling. I have years worth of sinus blocked up and being back in Melbourne with the frequencies is not so joyous for us. Microbes respond to frequenices. I know people treat disease with frequencies. I wonder what all these frequencies are doing to what we have naturally occurring on us, and the "unknown disease" part, Bacillus oleronius proteins, and altered sebum levels and Demodex populations in erythematotelangiectatic rosacea patients. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24248990Demodex Mange has been known to infect humans www.marvistavet.com/html/body_demodectic_mange.html
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Post by toni on Oct 29, 2014 12:30:43 GMT -5
Mornin Itchin, I am SO GLAD you didn't "do anything yet". You're way ahead of me "in posting this morn"...I'm going 10 directions to gather info for you. hehehe I'm SO GLAD you're on this, because "you'll see" as I have, ( we can clean this stuff up to a major degree) where you feel like a human again and never have any break outs anymore. MOST IMPORTANT (I want to get you this info right now) you are doing the right thing, (by holding off right now). And I saw that you bought that "Aqueous Cream"....( that's not a good one at all to mix with Permethrin) not at all, I'm so sorry Itchin. ONLY use (a water based clean cream) no lauryl sulfates, etc. added as ingredients. Be back with (info for you I can find on this). Also, did you get 1% or 5 % permethrin cream? Be back asap. The Permethrin is 5%. Is there something I can buy over the counter here to cut with the Permethrin? I am scared to put this on my face. So yes, I am more than happy to hold off lol Thank you toni Hi Itchin, Yes, there's lots of things you buy "where you are", like Aveeno lotion, do you have that in the grocery stores? Things "like that kind of lotion or cream". You just don't want " a product that "roughs up the skin" if you know what I mean? Like Retin A...that's a skin rougher maker. See, like that. Products that (are meant) to change the texture of the skin, (that cause exfoliation, those are not good). I know, pretend you're using Retin A...and you simply want to "cut it" so it's less potent. So any "actually cheap creams work best" as they don't use expensive ingredients in them (just have to watch that alcohol content) in the lotions, but, they're ALL fairly low. If you're really nervous, you can only use 1 drop of permethrin cream to 10 drops of "any base cream like Aveeno". It will just take longer "if the permethrin is too diluted", but....it will work, just have to use it more often during the week to disable and kill the demodex. Do they sell 5% permethrin there without a script? Itchin, ((( In everything I've read from this doc to that, etc, when they're treating demodex, (they'll use it either full strength, or 50%). I'm ONLY not recommending that strength, (because I'm being ultra safe). But seriously, with your 5% permethrin, you can make that even 1/10th permethrin to 9/10ths aveeno cream/lotion. It will be weak, but...over time using that 2x a week, it will do the job.
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Post by itchin4answers on Oct 29, 2014 18:12:36 GMT -5
The Permethrin is 5%. Is there something I can buy over the counter here to cut with the Permethrin? I am scared to put this on my face. So yes, I am more than happy to hold off lol Thank you toni Hi Itchin, Yes, there's lots of things you buy "where you are", like Aveeno lotion, do you have that in the grocery stores? Things "like that kind of lotion or cream". You just don't want " a product that "roughs up the skin" if you know what I mean? Like Retin A...that's a skin rougher maker. See, like that. Products that (are meant) to change the texture of the skin, (that cause exfoliation, those are not good). I know, pretend you're using Retin A...and you simply want to "cut it" so it's less potent. So any "actually cheap creams work best" as they don't use expensive ingredients in them (just have to watch that alcohol content) in the lotions, but, they're ALL fairly low. If you're really nervous, you can only use 1 drop of permethrin cream to 10 drops of "any base cream like Aveeno". It will just take longer "if the permethrin is too diluted", but....it will work, just have to use it more often during the week to disable and kill the demodex. Do they sell 5% permethrin there without a script? Itchin, ((( In everything I've read from this doc to that, etc, when they're treating demodex, (they'll use it either full strength, or 50%). I'm ONLY not recommending that strength, (because I'm being ultra safe). But seriously, with your 5% permethrin, you can make that even 1/10th permethrin to 9/10ths aveeno cream/lotion. It will be weak, but...over time using that 2x a week, it will do the job. Hi toni, We do have Aveeno, I like the brand and have tried long ago. It's rather expensive. I cut the permethrin 5% (which was purchased over the counter) so NO prescription is required with glycerine and the combination was perfect. I left on my face for 3 hours and I had no burning. I saw black specks emerge to the surface of my skin when first applied. I didn't have any reddening on my face, well only a little, but that was me prodding and poking a little before I washed it off. All my creams including Natio have the nasty chemicals in it, so I applied coconut oil, the refined organic one which I'm taking internally. No bad reactions to see this morning and yes the pillow case is a curse coz I'd got into bed and remembered I hadn't changed the pillow case, so up I staggered for a fresh one lol I'll keep this treatment up and I reckon I could do the treatments a little closer together, I'll see what happens. I am treating my sinus tracts at the same time with GSE and snorting water and or salt water. Thanks so much for your help with this toni.
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