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Post by Baraka Obam on May 22, 2015 9:25:10 GMT -5
I do not get it, the coffin fly was not projected as truth UNTILL we found the perfect match, another Positive find , sewer fly. Then they could positively be identified. If you are willing to go the mile, there is all you can do, a test kit for you microbes, anaerobic and aerobic, and other kits to get you closer to right, your heart is in the right place, learn what your doing. There is much to this work Accessories such as The top one holds interest for me, there are many. www.google.com/search?q=you+tube+identifying+pathogens&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 www.amazon.com/Gram-Method-Stain-15ml-Quantities/dp/B0013YWAA0/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&qid=1432302954&sr=8-19&keywords=microscope+dye+kitswww.microscopemaster.com/microscope-slides.htmlYou do not have to thank me I know if your really interested you will do a little study, its how we perfect ourselves. Then some people are not interested at all in perfection, just being noticed. My self, really, notice bothers me, but finding REAL answers is my love. All this week I work on a vehicle that needs so many things, never worked on any new vehicles with electronic gizmos, so I have to perfect this skill. SOOOOO, I bought a book and watch all the you tube I can that pertains, I have learned some bad ways from the you tube and had to finesse them with the manual. Most of the mechanical work I have done, but never on this certain machine and they are all different and have their quirks. It takes me three times the normal to LEARN what I am doing because I strive to do the job just once, usually I get my way. If I do not I know rip it apart go get new seals, gaskets, read some more, look online for tips and start again. In the end I will have a like new older ride with no miles as it was owned by old people that shut it away so long ago, better yet I have learned some basic electronic skills of early model electronic gizmo cars. I could call it fun but climbing under a hood is just a little painful when your in there for 20 minutes a go. I will never question looking for the item that causes this, its adding in relevance to the item that we can not possibly realize. What is this, has anyone seen this, here is something we have in common is different than I know what this is, this is connected to the disease, its mold, its mildew, its Superman. I am glad your still looking and posting pictures and video's, I did the same, so many pictures of my horror and then Franky just deleted all of the pictures when he changed hosting sites, all of that work gone. Oh we;;, I guess we do not understand each other, so much for human intelligence. Sometimes, it's more of a peace of mind thing, (learning or discovering what something is) especially as far as this horror goes. And "whether or not" I can do anything about it. Just like your "gnats" Baraka....(you needed to know) and we found out what they were I do believe. And only then *sometimes* can one can put it to rest, at least one part anyways. It's all about "what it takes for someone"...and for me, it's what it takes.
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Post by toni on May 22, 2015 10:40:36 GMT -5
Baraka, I do appreciate the help, thank you.
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Post by itchin4answers on May 22, 2015 17:50:21 GMT -5
Hi Toni, g00d finds.They appear to be plant related imho. Found similar item called euglena gracilis in your googled website. Some time a while back I captured with my digital microscope something similar that looked like a cob of corn cardiomyocyte like in appearance. So it is possible part of this nightmare has plant biology. Later...morghunter. Hi Morghunter, And I'm so glad you've mentioned that. And yes, (like a cob of corn) that's a great description too. I'll sure check out the pics of that euglena gracilis. Thank you. Thank you I did miss this one. Euglena gracilisEuglena are small organisms in the Protist Kingdom. Euglena gracilis is just one of many species of Euglena. They do not have common names like birds or trees, so we have to refer to them by their scientific name. Euglena are interesting because they are a sort of combination of plant and animal. They can make their own food like a plant, but they can also eat other things, like an animal. They can also swim and move. Scientists argued for years about which Kingdom to put them in, Animal or Plant? Right now they are in neither; most scientists put them in the Protist Kingdom with other microscopic organisms, such as amoeba and paramecium. www.fcps.edu/islandcreekes/ecology/euglena.htmOn the above link you will see the microscopic images the Euglena look very similar in shape to those things that were appearing on your slide toni. A lot of these tiny organisms have cilia and flagella. For me this was something I looked into at the beginning because of the flagella and "hair like" structures.
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Post by toni on May 23, 2015 10:02:27 GMT -5
Thank you Itching and Morgshunter. I sure don't know by any means and..but I want to help you "be here with me under my scope more" so I need to show you something else regarding this (mosaic-looking-tile piece organism thing). Be back asap (I need to find the slide) then it will help show how those "mosaic things" are actually growing on top of that membrane opaque foundation part. I agree it sure looks similar to that Euglena organism, but it seems those "organelle things inside it" are more like 'it's innards, as they're different sizes, and inside of it. These "tile things" that are dark orange and brown and black, are "like they've grown on the top" of a membrane. Be right back. And thank you.
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Post by morghunter on May 23, 2015 10:47:35 GMT -5
Good morning Toni and fellow morgies. Remember we compared hard pointy specimens projecting from our foreheads which when moistened could be rolled out and be made flat. This "mosaic" appears similar but has a" rolled in bread crumbs" affect. This could be the same but more genetically advanced. Just when we think we have seen everything under the sun,along comes another poser.
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Post by toni on May 23, 2015 10:51:52 GMT -5
Link from where this "example came from". Not my specimen...just an example.
mundani-garden.blogspot.com/2010/12/ceterach-officinarum-ssp-officinarum.html *here's the link* sorry that other one didn't work, as I didn't realize that until I tried it after I posted.
Just scroll down on this link to see the pics I'd posted.
Microscopic detail of a paleaceous scale of doradilla, surrounded by spores and already deployed and empty sporangia.
Microscopic structure of a paleaceous scale, which consists of the carcasses of dead cells, dry and empty in the form of honeycomb.
(not that these 2 pictured microscopic images are mine or do I think this is our fungi)
The only thing is, is the similarity of it's growing stages in how the spores develop, then release off that membrane when they mature (which is when they darken).
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Post by toni on May 23, 2015 11:15:42 GMT -5
Good morning Toni and fellow morgies. Remember we compared hard pointy specimens projecting from our foreheads which when moistened could be rolled out and be made flat. This "mosaic" appears similar but has a" rolled in bread crumbs" affect. This could be the same but more genetically advanced. Just when we think we have seen everything under the sun,along comes another poser.
YES, Perfect description Morgshunter. *like rolled in bread crumbs* appearance, yes, the (what I was calling mosaic tiles) are stuck on that clearish opaque membrane of a foundation. That's exactly the best way to say it the rolled in bread crumbs.
I think I know "the pointy things you're talking about" that we pluck out of the skin...(let me ask you to be sure, do you mean the things we called *thorns?*....but I'm sorry, I don't remember the "crumbs stuck on them" - I say that meaning the parts ( we're calling the bread crumbs) Oh yes, that's sooooo the best way to describe them.
Do you have pics of what you're calling bread crumbs on those specimens?
And thank you Morgshunter.
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Post by toni on May 23, 2015 11:26:28 GMT -5
I'll get my slide now (under the scope and I'll hydrate it with a drop of water) as to not zing it off the slide as specimens do when they're bone dry. I don't like to use oil IF I can help it, as that "hardens ALL my specimens" and then I can't do a thing with them. They turn hard as a rock with anything but using water or milk on them, as far as I've found. And then using milk or water to view them magnified, they become "gummier or pliable" and then I can smash them with a needle to see what comes out, if anything at all, or I can lay them out. But oh...oil, or anything else, makes them permanently solid and hard.
I just wanted to show you those pics from the internet (above post) of how "spore cells" can and do grow in the plant world and the fungus world, in how they'll grow these "flat like membrane foundation like surfaces ...which are ever sooooo microscopically thin", and then when the "darkened spores are matured and or are fertilized", they then "release off the membrane platform they grew on", and then do their thing and grow more.
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Post by toni on May 23, 2015 12:14:59 GMT -5
What I did was have a hand jerk, unintentionally, and swiped the screen with my mouse, then the "click to take a pic button" to "process it"...went off the screen to the right. Now there's no click it button to even process a pic. Darn. But please check out that ((( honeycomb looking network))) which looks (seriously) like the pictures in the above post from (somebody's link on a species of fungi). I'll get a side by side, be right back.
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Post by toni on May 23, 2015 12:41:02 GMT -5
I lightened my picture for "showing the like honeycomb-framework, like network" in both my specimen and (theirs).
The "internet photo above on the LEFT" is from a link from my previous posts where I saw this to begin with, since so far, it's what (looks similar to my specimens).
Here's the link: mundani-garden.blogspot.com/2010/12/ceterach-officinarum-ssp-officinarum.html
In fact...something else here from this link of pictures (scroll down) and see...
but was it, is it...Homeworld that has a "similar picture here on the board" of that "tubular specimen"?
I'll find it in a bit, because it sure looks similar also now that I'm looking more.
Homeworld if you're there, you may know which one I'm referring to, and thank you!
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Post by toni on May 23, 2015 13:29:08 GMT -5
Just lost a post. Darnit again, haha sheesh. Here's a video I took on the 13th when I started this thread. It shows how that "honeycomb" network whatever it is, (membrane in which these dark spores, whatever they are) how they seem to grow and mature upon this honeycomb designed membrane. I press the specimens with a needle, and the "spore-looking-things" come off. They're in just water on the slide. Just like "how fungi do when they grow, or plants' too, not all, but many. tinypic.com/player.php?v=2is7gb7%3E&s=8#.VWDFRGfJCUk There's a human hair lying on the slide in water, (to show size comparison) and then I press the specimen with the needle. I just now *today* noticed this video doesn't work. I will fix it so it does.400X mag. This video in the first 10 seconds shows best what I'm trying to say.See what I mean, the more I press with the needle, the more "things float off that membrane". I'd forgotten taking this video, since I'd taken so many pictures that day. Glad I have it. I've got another I just saw, be right back. PS as usual, the pics or video's below my specimen video are not mine, I just use Tinypic.com to upload.
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Post by toni on May 23, 2015 13:42:42 GMT -5
I guess the picture from the internet (comparing the honeycomb network) is not a fungi, it's a fern.
I'm having a time with it, because it's in Spanish, and only some sites do the "translate thing" I can click on to read about.
But, I'm only using those pics from the internet of that species of Fern as a comparison to mine, because they sure look the same, and how they germinate and propagate seems similar too!
I mean what the heck?
But, maybe all plants grow like this, as this is part of something I don't know much about. I'm sure not a biologist.
Guess I should try and find one.
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Post by morghunter on May 23, 2015 15:14:43 GMT -5
Have a picture of pointed specimen in four parts. Am working on copying from disk. Wish me luck.
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Post by toni on May 27, 2015 12:44:53 GMT -5
New word for me and maybe you too. It's called (Plasmodesmata or plasmodesta), which that's the (honeycomb webbing, or network) and some have membranes that
spores mature upon and then are released as they mature, which they turn dark when they're matured, sort of like (my mosaic tile specimen) as I didn't know what to name it.
Wiki is where this particular pic came from on the link. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasmodesma
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Post by toni on May 27, 2015 12:50:31 GMT -5
Now I've got another "goodie" to share.
And this specimen...(((( almost like a darn purse, or bag would be in it's shape))) is the most incredible "Plasmodesmata" (that honeycomb network) that grows spores... that you'll ever see!
Be right back, I want to get a grain of Morton's Salt to put some granules next to this "THING" ...I guess it's a Plasmodesmata at it's best....and you'll see how shocking this is.
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Post by Baraka Obam on May 27, 2015 13:30:46 GMT -5
That means when I die they can just plant me and I will grow, WOW, I want to be a Christmas tree.
I have pondered the idea of plant life being able to grow inside the human body,
Then I am sure you can NOT identify that it is plant life, if you can what testing did you do and what was the conclusions.
You and I know the answer to that, another, I know, I have got it, this is it our worries are over, we are trees, big strong trees, that will not bend under the strongest winds.
By the way, you weren't to one of those mass hypnosis shows lately were you?
One last thing, people that have had this can see the lines in their skin that are on their sides, top of their arms and face at times, that drive directly into the moles and then without going a iota farther, go off in other directions, the mole, freckles are hubs.
They also make patterns, these concave lines I the skin was what had me imagining a possible connection to plant but could more easily mean infestation of lymph system by a invader of some sort.
I will not say what because I do NOT have the equipment NOR the education to discover what forms these items would be POSITIVELY.
So I will never SCREAM OUT what it is, I will though say take notice, and spend more time describing the issue and how to come by it.
If I could not bet my life on my findings then I am not able to prove my results.
I will bet what I say on a punishment of kissing anyones rosey red arse if you can prove me wrong .
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Post by toni on May 27, 2015 13:49:25 GMT -5
Well Baraka, in time you'll see.
I won't ask you to kiss anything of mine-no thank you, but...you'll see, NOTHING in the world of human skin makes Plasmodesmata nor "pollen tubes" except maybe...hummmm fish? I'm kidding. Plants do it period. If I'm wrong, then I'll let you. hhahaha I'm playing, I'm excited beyond life right now, and equally sickened. Read more, you'll see.
And I know by your "prompting and pushing of impatience shown in your post"...you're going to have to wait like me before we get the absolute low'down on this.
I need to figure out where to send this. I've sent "stuff off before" and NEVER heard back, so I'm a bit weary, but, I need to do this, but really, hhahaa where do I go with it that it won't be taken and not told.
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Post by toni on May 27, 2015 14:02:01 GMT -5
I know Baraka you're on the 'sexthing' about where this came from, and who knows, right? And I'm not really saying that to open up anything about it, as you've got plenty of posts on the subject of what "you think" or actually what you're telling us what "you think this is" without your proof from many to back that up.
Regardless, I know, what's good for the goose isn't good for the gander in your book, sheesh. heheh Gotta chuckle ya know? I do about that.
But, when "OUR human dermis" ((( produces))) what looks exactly time and time again, over and over and over, ((( what looks like plant matter in the manner in which it grows, in the manner in which the spores form, in the manner in which NO ONE ON EARTH knows what the hell this is))), and we can see this, which is what any pro will do right off the bat, (in fact) take my pictures and video's and pop them off in emails to different botanists on the internet, (total strangers) and act like you're a kid who's under his scope and would like help in what this might look like to them/the specialist. Let us know what they say, will you?? Will YOU do this? For US ALL?
See? you can help learn what this "looks like" for "just now starters until we get someone", or you can choose to ridicule me (for going in a direction that everything I SEE under the scope and am picturing and video'ing and comparing to the real deal look like *which you'll see that too, it's in the plant world*, so we can "sort of" satisfy curiosity, because only when you get involved here, will you see. We've got to "get there"..and I do need help.
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Post by toni on May 27, 2015 14:11:23 GMT -5
Here's a video now of yet another specimen, which is well in tact (just lke the specimen I started this thread with, but it's missing the *what I called tiles*) the darkened spores that were maturing on that membrane separated with that network or webbing (above pics). Keep in mind when viewing, how minute or fine the "netting is"....the Plasmodesmata next to a human hair. A hair is thick in comparison as this is so ultra fine it's not even funny. It's drying or dried on the slide in the video, the water evap'ed from the heat of the light, and now I want to see what those finer "barbed wire looking parts are" as they're part of the "netting that can be seen now". tinypic.com/player.php?v=atslnc%3E&s=8#.VWYIJGfJCUk PS other video's on this link are not mine, this was only uploaded on Tinypic.com, a public site.
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Post by toni on May 27, 2015 15:23:17 GMT -5
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