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Post by life on Mar 10, 2007 22:17:44 GMT -5
Hi Erika~~ I started with the Cumanda only, for several weeks. Then, I added the Burbur. I took nothing else except a QuestionHair's fruit smoothie in the mornings. If I had it to do over again, I would have started with the Burbur for about 5 days to a week, and then added the Cumanda. My reason being, that the Burbur helps greatly to clear the Liver, Kidneys, and Lymph of toxins -- and you take it to reduce or eliminate the die-off or healing crisis aspect. It would be smart to order the Burbur and start taking it with the Cumanda as soon as you get it. As for how much -- Dr. Cowden recommends you start with a drop twice a day. Put it in 4 oz. of water and let it stand for a minute, then drink it. Take the Cumanda 2 X's a day; 1/2 hour before breakfast and 1/2 hour before dinner is ideal. Then, just before you eat every day (or just after you eat every day) take the Burbur. If you start with 1 drop of Cumanda 2 X's a day, and your Herx reaction is too strong, then put a drop in 4 oz. of water and only drink 2 oz. of the water to cut the dosage in half. Work your dosage up to 20 drops 2 X's a day and hold there. This is all according to Dr. Cowden's protocal I found on the Internet. Personally, I started with 10 drops of Cumanda 2 X's a day and increased each individual dosage by 5 drops each day. So, I started with 10 drops 2 X's a day and was at the recommended 20 drops 2 X's per day by the 3rd day. After about a week (if I remember correctly) I increased the dosage to 40 drops 2 X's per day -- just to see what would happen. Nothing happened and its efficacy appeared to be the same as taking 20 drops 2 X's per day, so I went back down to that and have remained at that dosage for 8 weeks. Every 2 weeks, I take the recommended 236 hour break. So, I start on a Monday, take it through the weekend to the following Saturday morning. I don't take it Saturday night and all day Sunday on the second weekend and then start up again on the Monday morning. Just how I do it so I don't have to think about what day to start and what day to rest. I added Samento just a couple of days ago. I'm taking 5 drops just before bedtime in 4 oz. of water. My logic is simple as to why right before I go to sleep, and that is that Samento is known to work against over 200 organisms. The body fights best with our immune system at night, so I feel as though that time would be the most efficacious for the Samento. 5 drops once a day before bed is all I can handle right now of the Samento. My healing crisis is fairly strong even at that low of a dosage. I have a headache across my forehead and at the base of the back of my neck. My nek was so stiff in the morning, I could hardly move it, and it makes crackle sounds when I can finally move it by the end of the day. I have difficulty tracking thoughts if they are involved with any sort of true focus, and I can't remember nouns and I'm switching them again. And a mild form of chronic fatigue has set back in. This is all due to the Samento I've added and has nothing to do with the Cumanda -- at least, for me. I've probably over-answered your question, so forgive me if I have. So, when you take the Cumanda -- and you feel/see its effects and want to continue, do get the Burbur and take it too. lots of hugs, Erica, and keep us posted on its effects, life
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Post by CA GA Peach on Mar 10, 2007 23:05:44 GMT -5
There's something else that I've been wanting to ask? Does someone else have:
1. the black hairs/tubes with the black glob on the end, and 2. a bottle Samento, and 3. a microscope or a magnifying glass?
Place the hair/tube on a slide or something solid (I use white tile), place a drop of Samento on the hair/tube. That's all. Now watch it.
I'll post here what I'm seeing after someone else confirms. It works every time without fail.
Orion, Greg, or someone else, do you mind doing this and reporting what you see happening? Maybe a video? Life and others, try it with a magnifying glass if that's all you have, please.
This happens with nothing else I've tried and nothing happens when a drop of Samento is placed on the tile without the hair/tube in it.
Thank you, Cheryl
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Post by life on Mar 10, 2007 23:20:48 GMT -5
Hi CA GA Peach~~ Wow -- there are so many great posts and thoughts on this thread that I don't know where to begin. So.... First, that makes three of us posting that have had their incontinence improve!!!! Yeah to THAT one! As for watching your urine color -- thanks -- mine stopped with the greenish tinge by the 3rd week, so if you had that, it may already have dissipated. As for bloody, crusty left nostril. My nostrils have gone through different things. Not every day, but every couple of weeks -- which is another reason I think this is cyclical by two weeks or so. The first time, I had dried green gunk (I had to dig it out ) come out of both nostrils for a couple of days and then stop. Second time, same thing. Third time, right nostril had green, but left was orange. Forth time, both nostrils had orange, but it had lightened. This last time, my right nostril had orange, and my left nostril closed up over the night and in the morning, black stuff, blood, and creamy stuff came out. Not much and only for one day. This seems to happen in a pattern for me. Every time I stop the Cumanda for the 36 hour rest and start up again -- I have stuff come out of my nostrils after about 3 days of taking it. It only lasts for about 1-3 days and then subsides. This has all happened with only taking the Cumanda. I had tons of black specks, short, black hairs and white 'lint' come out in droves the first 2-3 weeks on Cumanda. That all subsided to the point that I can't refer to myself as a 'pig pen' person anymore. Even while driving my car -- I have not seen the usual 'lint' floating around my car as I drive to work these past couple of weeks. I started the Samento at bedtime a couple of days ago -- finally decided what I am going to do now that I've been on Cumanda for two months -- I'm going to do the Samento before going to bed and continue the Cumanda dosage. I don't know why Dr. Cowden says to alternate. Who knows, he may have changed his protocol since the Internet one I found. I've thought about it a great deal though. One thought I had is maybe the Cumanda and Samento 'force' the bugs into their different forms, which the other one then kills them. Sort of like ping-pong. The other thought I've had is perhaps the bugs can get used to the Cumanda and Samento and go into hiding to protect themselves until it is 'safe' to come out again. So, switching keeps them confused as to what form to be in. And the last thought is that perhaps the body itself needs a break from them both -- to increase or sustain efficacy. Like when working out, you're body gets used to the work out so you need to change your routine in order for it to continue to be effective? After adding the Samento for these past 3 days, I noticed tonight for the first time in several weeks that my kitchen counter had black specks on it. Several. They weren't there when I came home, but they sure are there now. I see this as a good sign actually; the Samento is pushing the bugs out of me again like the Cumanda did during the first few weeks of taking it. Since I know now what the Cumanda did/does, I've finally decided that, for now anyway, I am going to continue on the Cumanda, and add the Samento; giving my body the 36 hour break every two weeks. life is good (even with black specks in my kitchen)
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Post by life on Mar 10, 2007 23:26:29 GMT -5
Hi CA GA Peach~~ Guess its time I go buy one of those magnifiers people use. I forgot which one to buy, though. Do you know? I remember posters in the past saying they are only about $10 -- can't remember the name of the chain. But, I'll try your experiment as soon as I get one. life
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Post by life on Mar 10, 2007 23:34:11 GMT -5
Hi BeLikeWater~~ Thanks so much for the Homeopathic Silica -- I am going to use up the SilicaPlus first -- it worked well and don't want to waist it. I'll start your suggestion when its gone. I'm exited about that part. I was concerned about taking silica since our bodies can make silicone from silica -- but, Dr. Overman told me last week end that I do not have silicone in my body. He wrote in his book that he finds most all Morgies have silicone in them, but not all. hugs, life
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Post by jwf on Mar 11, 2007 0:21:31 GMT -5
With Samento I slowly increased intake until reaching over 50 drops/day, and felt good at that level. If some of you are taking that with Cumanda or alternating the two, and then can try the RainTree Cat's Claw, I really would appreciate your letting me know what happens.
Also, have any of you tried Triphala for cleansing?
Thanks and hope this isn't too off-topic for anyone.
Blue Skies..............John
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Post by life on Mar 11, 2007 0:34:33 GMT -5
Hi John~~ I'll do that for you. I've got quite a bit of the liquid Nutrimedics Samento right now-- when I'm up to 50 drops per day and run out, I'll order the Samento from Rain Tree you suggest and keep on postin'. Also, what kind of cleansing? bowels -- or? Thanks for being there for us, John, life
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Post by erika on Mar 11, 2007 0:36:07 GMT -5
thanks life for the instructions. i will be printing them out! John. your input is always always a blessing!
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Post by ANTHILL on Mar 11, 2007 1:53:29 GMT -5
Hi John Doing more betterer than when I was in Idaho It seems that two heads are betterer than one it's nice to have someone to be able throw Idea's off of even ripe fruit and rotten eggs (speaking of Carrie of course) ;D I got some More betterer understandings of the the critters and how to combat them than I did before Simply by paying attention to how they react to things that I try --if All hell breaks loose ya' got a winner!! but then again its nice to get a repreve here and there so it's nice to know what will help with that I still have no Idea how this story will play out with me but getting to know grim Last name reaper has taken allot of the worrys away that I use to have and allowed me to just live for today Cumanda Tada! John! Cumanda Tada!
Thanks for the laugh ant. Hope you are faring well. Let us know how you are doing up there in Bigfoot country.
Hi Life,
Cumanda was on my short list-- but I got well on the other herbs before purchasing any, so I had to leave the testing up to other folks who had lesions, etc.
Of course we were taking other herbs that combat parasites of all kinds before Cumanda became available to us. That's one of difficulties of determining which herb is doing what, when you have a big mix. We didn't care- just wanted to get well immediately.
It's great that you are able to benefit from Cumanda and pass that knowledge on to others. Morgellons and Lyme are so complex that any one herb would probably fall short of getting one well, so vigilance to other herbs and synergism should be a focus.
I see that new research with CFS is pointing toward a viral component, and then we have mycoplasma concerns, as well as fungal, and who knows what else. In todays world of super-bugs, I think prophylaxis will become the norm. In other words, take herbs to stay well.
Blue Skies..........John
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Post by belikewater on Mar 11, 2007 2:27:34 GMT -5
Hey, Life, I was at my PO box today and nose was itching a bit. Suddely, I was hit with two sneaker sneezes. Wham, Wham and guess what!?! NO Leaks!!!!!! Before Cumanda would have had to get home quickly for new undies. Definitely a Before Cumanda and After Cumanda or BC & AC Oh, yeah, greenish tinge to urine. I am starting to notice a little "Happy" trying to poke its head up, too.
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Post by life on Mar 11, 2007 10:09:08 GMT -5
Hi BeLikeWater~~ Ain't it wunnderffful? Thanks for watching for the greenish tinge -- so, it must be bladder infection the Cumanda attacks as I'm assuming you don't have renal issues like I do. No more leaks! Yeah!!!! My tinge started up within the first week if I remember correctly, and went away after about a month. My bladder can 'hold' longer than it used to. Last night, I did not have to get up to go to the bathroom at all. Monday, I start my 9th week on Cumanda and I am going to continue with the 5 drops of Samento @ bedtime. I woke up with a splitting headache and lots of crackling in my neck which I can turn, but with great difficulty. And Happy is coming up for you too!!!! Its nice, isn't it? Lots of hugs, life
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Post by See Jane Crawl on Mar 11, 2007 11:30:16 GMT -5
Anthill
I just wanted to say "Thank You" for the laugh you give me from the pictures & ads you post! I am assuming you are a graphic artist? If you aren't you should be, you could make a fortune!
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Post by CA GA Peach on Mar 11, 2007 12:59:00 GMT -5
With Samento I slowly increased intake until reaching over 50 drops/day, and felt good at that level. If some of you are taking that with Cumanda or alternating the two, and then can try the RainTree Cat's Claw, I really would appreciate your letting me know what happens.
Also, have any of you tried Triphala for cleansing?
Thanks and hope this isn't too off-topic for anyone.
Blue Skies..............JohnHey, Blue Sky . . .John: You bring such a calming, intelligent, useful atmosphere to any thread. No, you are not OT (off topic). I had hoped that everyone would understand that asking this thread remain "on topic" mostly means no vile attacks like what had developed on the other thread. Thank you for all you share.
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Post by life on Mar 11, 2007 16:25:44 GMT -5
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Post by CA GA Peach on Mar 12, 2007 11:16:11 GMT -5
Yesterday was 25th day on Cumanda, 25 drops 2 times a day now. Brown spots are continuing to dry up. Less fatigue. That's the good news. Am also on Samento 25 drops 2 times a day. Burbur 10+ drops 4 times a day. Bad news is that I did not sleep well last night, was up 3 times to go to restroom. Quite restless and felt itching but this may be due to the fact that I didn't take the Zyrtec last night. Also, I took quite a large dose of Burbur at bedtime? ?? The last few days teeny tiny little bumps have appeared on my arms. They are not like pimples as they are kinda crusty. Well, a little very fine sandpaper gets rid of that problem! Looks like they are still there, though, just not as raised. I'm getting more and more pale spots on chest, legs, arms which appears to be more my normal color of skin. I originally thought it was the abx that was causing me to appear to be tan. I actually have pretty fair skin color so more bad news is that I've realized the tan bio film is covering my whole body!!! All the other fine hair on my face, is still gold iridescent. Not normal at all! Eyes still sensitive to light and ears to noise. So, this Cumanda has a tough job getting all this off my body. It'll be slow, but this is the first product that has affected the bio film. Heck, I can't believe I said, "slow." I've only been on this for less than a month and I saw results within the first 3 days!! Morgies/Lymies can't expect immediate gratification when dealing with this disease. Continuing to see fewer white fibers and less glitter on face in the mornings. Haven't had that headache at the base of my neck in about a week.
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Post by belikewater on Mar 12, 2007 11:56:40 GMT -5
Day 13 on Cumanda. Eyelids not scratchy when I wake up. Still feel a bit swolen. Sore on top of scalp finally gone. I rubbed Neem seed oil into my face last night. Got lots of smaller particles out of pores with a big exodus along my hairline at temples. Often when I am able to rub junk out of the skin, the skin hyperpigments and I get tan colored freckle spots. The older ones of these are starting to fade, though. Morgies, the never ending story.
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Post by life on Mar 12, 2007 23:34:37 GMT -5
First day of my ninth week on Cumanda and the second week of Samento.
I'm still @ 20 drops of Cumanda 2 X's a day. I take 10 drops of the Burbur 3 times a day -- need to increase it -- just ordered some more.
I did 5 drops @ bedtime of Samento all last week -- today was the first morning I woke up with out a headache or stiff neck, so I'm going to try 10 drops tonight and see how I do.
After up for 1/2 hour this morning, I was itchy pretty much all over. Not the usual itchy -- very mild and showering with the New Hope soap got rid of it.
After work, I was fine, but now I am having pains inside the carbuncles of my upper arms, and the ones on my right hand. They are all hard and crusty and rough with things trying to get out.
I can rub anywhere on my face -- no oils just bare fingers -- and granules of 'sand' come off, and what seems like dead skin, but I think it is the Morgs.
I have no Morgs on the knuckles of my right hand, and yet it hurts all along that area -- can't make a fist very well -- too 'stiff'. This happened once before in the earlier weeks -- things must be drying up inside like on the outside.
Sand-like particles coming out of my eyes -- doesn't hurt.
I was a bit fatigued all last week -- that went away this morning, and that little 'Happy' feeling is back again.
All the ones on my legs are raised, but with flat smooth surfaces and appear to be 'dormant' the last few days.
All the activity is from the waist up right now, front and back. Some 'burn' -- not intolerably so -- just haven't had them do that in a while.
Fingernails are brittle today, and appear thinner. My thumbnails are pealing off a bit and a couple big ones are coming out around my cuticles again.
I guess I'm going into a new 'cycle' of healing -- at least, that's what it seems like.
life
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Post by ANTHILL on Mar 12, 2007 23:56:34 GMT -5
Anthill
I just wanted to say "Thank You" for the laugh you give me from the pictures & ads you post! I am assuming you are a graphic artist? If you aren't you should be, you could make a fortune! Your welcome thanks for the complement I feel like my head is starting swell along with my ego it will explode in about five seconds you may want to choose the remaining time you have left to run like hell and hide behind a solid structure before the atom bomb like blast takes place and render's the American medical association useless No not a graphic artist yet but I do want to be one when I grow up ;D Some stuff is original other stuff is other peoples stuff that I find on the web that I alter for my own purposes Then theres the stuff that I find on the net that doesn't need anything done to it it is a vary therapeutic way to get my ya' ya's out No really it' snice to know that others appreciate it as much as I do ;D
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Post by life on Mar 13, 2007 19:41:38 GMT -5
Hi Anthill~~
I'm waiting for Friskie to find her large size 'free toy' inside.
I love yer stuff! Makes me laugh.
hugs, life
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Post by life on Mar 13, 2007 22:19:17 GMT -5
I took 10 drops of Samento at bedtime last night.
Last week, I had healing crisis with just 5 drops, which tapered off by the week end.
No Herxing in 10 drops at all, so I am going to try 15 drops tonight and see what happens.
My carbuncles are loosening up again, but all still above the waist. I can still just rub with my bare fingers tonight on my face and get sand granules to come out.
My right hand is still stiff when I try to make a fist.
My meta cognition is still weak -- started over a week ago. And, I'm switching nouns again quite a bit -- my students are very kind (except for a couple) and wait for me to find a word, or finish a thought. I'm assuming this is just the Morgs 'cycling' and am looking, hopefully, for my brain to come back soon.
Haven't lost my ability to spell though.
life is still good
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