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Post by ivanhole on Mar 31, 2007 15:06:06 GMT -5
hello all i have posted some video taken this week of this thing moving into my eyes. it was/is visible still on the eyeball, by the naked eye. funny thing tho, i can't see it thru the inside, if that makes sense. i feel a little weight on my eyelid is all. but when i closed my eyes, the lashes changed, and they look like they were streaming in a lot of little blacks stuffs from below. notice the disruption of focus in the area that the thing is. does everybody have it in their eyes? i am truly scared of it now. i wonder if it sees the world as i do - - if it uses my eyes? imagination getting the worsed of me i know. but nothing seems impossible to me now. i guess i'll try dr hildegard for some of that cream. i am seeing the infectious disease head doctor at UCSD this week sometime per my doctor's recommendation. if anyone else has it in their eyes, let me know if there is a trick to keep it from randomly changing my lashes around. the video and some others plus pics can be viewed at ivankipling.multiply.com/thanks
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Post by ramonehormone on Mar 31, 2007 16:15:31 GMT -5
Do you wash your face and hands alot? Are you a frequent swimmer?
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Post by prevenge on Mar 31, 2007 16:19:49 GMT -5
got them all through my eyyballs.
if ever there was a technology available to send bio-sensor input from a biological organism, and relay that information to a remote location for comprehensive observation/ INTERACTION ( involuntary muscle spasming etc) .. it would in my mind seem very similar to this. vast network of electro active fibers running through the entirety of the organism (us) .. responding and sending RF/EMF signals...
its not your imagination ivan .. it's deductive reasoning over a long-term exposure and observation into the most horrifying yet fascinating phenomena a human could be forced to go through against his will.
-M
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Post by mfromcanada on Mar 31, 2007 17:53:10 GMT -5
I have them in my eyes too. I have been to eye specialists and they never see anything. I can't see them but I feel them move from my eyelashes into eyes and especially under eyes. I have a lot of movement. I have heard on these sites that two people state they have each gone blind in one eye. I don't know what to tell you to do. Hope is a good one.
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Post by sisi on Mar 31, 2007 18:31:58 GMT -5
I "wash" my eyebrows and lashes and eyes VERY GENTLY with a wet wad of cotten with a little bit of Johnson's no tears baby shampoo followed by a water rinse, and that helped me get rid of Morgellons debris. (This has been suggested by doctors for other eye problems.) I did it first thing in the morning and last thing in the evening for awhile. I now do it as needed. I also do this for my little dog. The same awful stuff--black specks, reddish brown chrystals, varied-colored lint, and white mucus-- has come out of both our eyes. Other members here have found this helpful.
For my swollen eyelids I've used Doctor Burt's Res-Q-Ointment--(Burt's Bees product available in health food stores and even in supermarkets) [Ingredients include almond oil, olive oil, beeswax , wheat germ oil, cocoa butter vitamin e, lavender, comfrey root.] This is a healthy alternative to a petroleum product like Vaseline.
I have had many concerns about my eyes with this disease. I take ALPHA LIPOIC ACID pills. It helps to increase glutathione which helps with detoxification; helps protect lens and retina of eye from degeneration and helps alleviate glaucoma. It is also used to treat and detox the liver.
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Post by Carrie♥ on Mar 31, 2007 19:33:31 GMT -5
Ivanhole thanks for posting your videos. First I've got to tell you I was crackin' up when I first heard the music. My daughter and I were cooking dinner and Boyfriend was sitting here watching the video. I could have sworn he must have been watching a porno ;)with that music you've got goin' on with them videos.
It seems like on one of them, sorry, I don't know what links Boyfriend clicked on so I'm not sure what I was watching but it looked like on the outside of your lower left lid there was something there that you could see moving. I think the video was a bit too dark to really make out and then I couldn't really tell if it was on the out side moving or inside moving under the lid.
If you could take a minute to kind of describe what we're looking at and when in the video or even talk us through the video if that's possible that'd be great.
It's just like a totally transparent blob of mucous huh!?! Nasty ass critters, slimy bastards. That's one of the reason they get away with it. Not that any one is really looking but when they do look they can't even see them.
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Post by ivanhole on Apr 1, 2007 0:23:20 GMT -5
carrie for some reason whenever the eye goes thru a transformation, the focus is not good. its like looking thru the air above a fire - all distorted. but there is a lot of movement that is for sure. you're right carrie! one of the soundtracks does have that cheesy porn quallity. i took it from the latest 'morgs gone wild' video. hot! the image on the camcorder itself is much clearer in the spots that the magic stuff happens. in one section when i zoom the image, you can see my lashes doing more than just fluttering. they are like tapping, or collecting, or prevenge i think you hit it when you said communicating, or building. its like they know what they are supposed to do. there are like rivers of dark stuff running up my face and drawn right to the tappiing lashes. the stuff in my eye has become more visible to me in general all over. i can kind of see it on my entire skin for the most part, definately in my hair, when i had hair that is. i look at video i shot end o last year and the stuff is prevalant. i even think i have seen it on a friend. that is not good news about two people supposedly going blind from this. if anyone can confirm that would be great, or not. i can't feel them and i see right through them. heres the thing that is weirde, well it all weird to me but the eye thing, it happened on a like wednesday night. i didn't get pictures of it, so the next morning, i sat down with the camera and tried to induce it. on the original tape you can hear me saying, 'lets see if i can turn my eyelashes white and long. and just moments later they did. that makes me wonder what else could be induced if anything. not that we would want to, but what if, just for the sake of positive thinking, we could harness this 4th dimensional blob of energy and use it somehow? what if we are our own parasite? we don't know the scope and obvious the dont have an understanding of what really is taking place in our bodies. or maybe not. i have been going from a state of excitement to scared shitless and back again ever since i edited the eye footage. i truly don't recall seeing any of that stuff when i was taping it. is something in my eye? on my eye? or is it my eye? me? maybe we are responsible for our condition - - involuntarily that is, not karmic or on purpose. and maybe not. everything i knew about what is supposed to be right in this world is all wrong now anyway. having some sort of yet untamed power from this would be no farther fetched than this period! fire is a good thing. but if we didn't know how to use it, we'd get burned. i'm not saying any of this gross stuff is good thing. i'm just trying to find an angle that agrees with hope. right now, hope is good thing.
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Post by abbienormal on Apr 1, 2007 3:52:36 GMT -5
Prevenge,
Do you have any idea who we are sending signals to?
AbbieNormal
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Post by prevenge on Apr 1, 2007 6:12:35 GMT -5
abbie...
a few.. but they're all obviously hypothetical.
i've hypothesized ... and bear with me .. if your're prone to fact/fiction based thinking you wont fare well here...
hypothesized that if the elite want to reduce the population by 2/3rds then there would have to be a massive Catastrophy.
in which case in order to insure their survival, they;'d have to relocate to underground cities previously installed.
how would you be able to monitor the surface other than to injunct the most highly adaptive and remote controlled process available via nano/genetic technology.
how else would you affect the surface's ongoings than to create vast neuro-networks within humans.. and control them via motion-control.
i work with motion-capture in my industry.. where we wear suits that electronically capture the data that an actor performs.
i've seen MIT kids remote control a cocroach left and right from putting wires into his brain.
i dont think that controlling humans is TOO far fetched an idea when you consider the vast amounts of anial/monkey testing going on throgh the decades etc...
of course.. this type of idea would never hold up as an arguement towards what we have...
though..
i dont hold it as the HIGHEST most probable instance of theories.. i will NOT count it OUT as an IMPOSSIBLE one.
so - rf/emf waves sent to and fro to a reomote underground cia base in denver. yes the CIA has been moving to denver. HAARP could have something to do with it.
full moons could have a TON to do with it as well .. as the moon is CLOSER to the earth when full.
so eh..
i've a ton of hypothesies.. all make a "bit" of sense.. none make "all" sense.
-M
-M
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Post by hannah on Apr 1, 2007 7:17:49 GMT -5
I "wash" my eyebrows and lashes and eyes VERY GENTLY with a wet wad of cotten with a little bit of Johnson's no tears baby shampoo followed by a water rinse, and that helped me get rid of Morgellons debris. (This has been suggested by doctors for other eye problems.) I did it first thing in the morning and last thing in the evening for awhile. I now do it as needed. I also do this for my little dog. The same awful stuff--black specks, reddish brown chrystals, varied-colored lint, and white mucus-- has come out of both our eyes. Other members here have found this helpful. For my swollen eyelids I've used Doctor Burt's Res-Q-Ointment--(Burt's Bees product available in health food stores and even in supermarkets) [Ingredients include almond oil, olive oil, beeswax , wheat germ oil, cocoa butter vitamin e, lavender, comfrey root.] This is a healthy alternative to a petroleum product like Vaseline. I have had many concerns about my eyes with this disease. I take ALPHA LIPOIC ACID pills. It helps to increase glutathione which helps with detoxification; helps protect lens and retina of eye from degeneration and helps alleviate glaucoma. It is also used to treat and detox the liver. Great information, sisi. I've had a lot of success with the baby shampoo and also use the Alpha Lipoic Acid to help protect my eyes. No more pains but still lots of floaters and some grittiness now and then.
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Post by ruth on Apr 1, 2007 10:28:13 GMT -5
wow, what a great video. thank you for getting this on film.
i have had this 10 years, i have infected eyes. just like my skin. it is the same.
when they are active, my vision is reduced. when they are in resting, my vision
improves. when they are active, i get the white growing (& sand, etc) and a lot of goop.
my mascara is scarey. i use the small sample size. "they" utilize the mascara
tar.
this white stuff looks like the "andy coyle" video stuff, it is dryer off his head, but i have not gotten my stuff to move as worm-like as his. perhaps different nano machine?
i've never seen a caterpillar (thank God), just a variety of insects and this white
stuff (& spores, sand, etc.) that makes other fibers, too, like the blue.........hildegarde at rense i think said the blue was from the copper. would the red be from the iron? her chemical analysis is good to look at. as growth takes place, levels fluctuate.
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Post by socalsandy on Apr 1, 2007 10:51:33 GMT -5
Hello Ivanhoe, we must be in the same town or place, as UCSD is a hospital here in San Diego. I got this 11 years ago, and my eyes are real bad from time to time, depending on which herbs I am taking. Pomegranate caps will clear your eyes in one pill, but they always come back . I remember the first time I took it and I could see the night lite clock time again for the first time in years. What has really been scarey is my tongue is now also full of them, hard to see , but hold mouthwash in your mouth and then spit, millions come out and then look at your tongue now millions of tiny bleeding holes, where they exit. Imagine our insides, I bleed now when I take para herbs from every orafice , my husband coughs up blood regularly and we both see spider viens all over us, It is so scarey. Thanks for your post, I will be so interested in hearing what UCSD infectious Dr has to say,(If you need me to show all of my scars and millions of them, I would be glad to aide in any way I can to help you , as most of the Drs I have seen just say who is burning you with cigaretes and why are you doing this to your self). I also have many specimens and bandages with them. I wish you luck, I had lots of tests there recently for a liver study but was rejected because my platelete count was too low. I also have Hep C type 1 b, a non responder for interferon. Good luck, we are here if you need us always , Oh I am a 59 year old college grad and grandma and so is my husband, we are very credible people, just real sick. Thanks for the post Sandra
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Post by toni on Apr 1, 2007 17:05:12 GMT -5
Ivanhole,
Thanks for sharing that, and it's just terrible what you and we're all going through.
My eyes too "were" so bad in the beginning. I could literally see what looked like a tiny white stiff worm sticking out of my iris (the colored part) of the eye and every blink scratched like sand in my eyes- and I remember thinking something must have gotten in my eye and was coming out, like a splinter pushes it way out eventually.
Then I started getting all kinds of clearish itsey bitty tiny little "things" that I too thought were some type of nematodes coming out onto my lower lids, and I could feel my lashes tickling.
As Sisi said, which sure has done the job too for my eyes, (TEARLESS) baby shampoo has kept that problem under control as well as taking care of the the blurry eye, scratchy eyes, and things coming out of my eyes. I just splash my face with warm water, put alittle tearless baby shampoo on my face, just as though I'm washing my face, then when it's all bubbly, I rinse it off with my eyes open, and there's no stinging nothing. And that's taken care of that problem. Now if I don't do that at least a couple times a week, the eye problem comes right back. There's got to be something in that shampoo that they really can't handle, because it really works incredibly well.
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Post by belikewater on Apr 1, 2007 17:11:16 GMT -5
Taking the Cumanda herb has really helped my eyes. No more scratchiness or feelings like stuff is jumping off my eyelashes.
I still have floters, though my vision does seem clearer. No great vision changes with Morgs. Lyme does infect the eyes.
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Post by friskers on Apr 2, 2007 0:00:57 GMT -5
Hi Ivan
Thanks for sharing the video. that music made me feel sexy and want to dance! ;D anyway I can see the weby fiber stuff that is NOT your eyelashes! I use saline solution for contacts when my eyes were bad and it helps. Mine were so bad I plucked every single eyelash out but oddly enough it didnt seem to help at all and just made me look like a freik. ive heard baby shampoo over and over again, may be the best! Good luck! :-*Frisk
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Post by kiki on Apr 2, 2007 2:39:23 GMT -5
Oh wow-watching your video was difficult. My eyes feel like they do the exact same thing if that makes sense. It also seems like anything I apply to my scalp ends up in my eyes. At first I thought it had to be just running into my eyes but at this point I have a hard time convincing myself of that. My eye Dr. can only see very fine hairs which he sees in alot of his patients although he did remark that I had more than he had seen before. My primary care Dr. is having me use 5% saline ointment. I forget the name but it starts with an M and does not require script. If you want me to check name of it, let me know. Bless us all
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Post by lydski on Apr 2, 2007 9:39:27 GMT -5
I have this on my eyelids and lashes and right under the bottom eyelashes. I've never seen anything 'IN' the eye (eyeballs) but can see lots of black specs under the skin on eyelid. Also I get what looks like teeny-tiny slugs out of the corners of my eyes. Also deep in the corners (beside the nose) it looks like I have bruising under the skin and black guey substance come out. I use the baby shampoo daily but I can't get rid of this. I guess I have just learned to live with it. I think it gets on the lashes and lids from whatever is in my scalp and eyebrows. I've been using the cooper peptides (tonie recommeneded) diluted with water and it it helping. But I think I have a long ways to go to get it all. Good Luck! I think I am going to apply a thick coat of vaseline on my eyebrows and forehead for a couple of days and see if this will loosen it. I'll let you know.
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Post by toni on Apr 2, 2007 10:17:55 GMT -5
Lydski,
Gosh...I'm so SORRY to hear your "brows" are still "crusty"??
Please try the copper peps full strength, it's honest to goodness okay to use full strength on your brows, just first take a very warm wash cloth and press that on your brows many times to 'warm up the area" then apply the CP and if you can, leave that all day. It won't hurt a thing, if it gets tingly...that's okay too. But if it feels too irritating, add water.
I know that vaseline is used to remove these types of "crusts" from children because it's so gentle. But "and of course I don't know for fact"...but, this seems to be a bacteria or fungi, and the small amount of salicylic in the Copper Peptide serum will help kill that off to enable a debridement of it. Vaseline with this "stuff" might help harbor it, only because vaseline is good for holding in moisture when topically applied, keeps the air out, and "can" allow more growth of a bacteria or fungi because it's then protected by the vaseline. (just a thought)
Your eyes now...if you can get "Gentamycin" opthalmic, not the drops they don't last long when you put them into your eyes, each blink removes it. If your eyes are really bad, then you need "the goop" haha that's what I call it...it's thick, you can only apply it into the eyes (just prior to closing them to sleep) and it will remain in there till morning. You doc shouldn't have a problem ( I hope ) prescribing this, and I really believe this will help you greatly for the "eye balls".
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Post by life on Apr 2, 2007 11:52:28 GMT -5
I got them out of my eyelashes and eyebrows with Swedish Bitters. I used a Q-tip, dipped in the bottle and, keeping th eyes closed tightly, wnet back and forth with the Q-tip, keeping the eye closed until it dries.
Also, you can put vaseline, or Calundula cream on your eyes, wet cotten with the bitters, apply it to your eyes, putting something over it to hold it down onto your eyelids. Take a nap for an hour or so. Repeat as needed.
Internally, the Cumanda finished them off. "Sand' came out of my eyes for a few weeks, the back of my eye hurt for awhile s it was killing them, a 'shard' of something came out of my left iris, and all is still well -- that was a couple of months ago.
I didn't try the baby shampoo because when I read about it, mine were already gone.
hugs, life
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Post by kiki on Apr 2, 2007 12:32:41 GMT -5
The name of the ointment is Muro by Bausch&Lomb and comes in 3% and 5%--ointment and drops. I cant believe I forgot this but when Toni mentioned the Gentamycin, it came to me like a steamroller-I used it and had what eye Dr said looked like chemical burns on my corneas. he gave me steroid drops and I was in the emergency room that night with a torn cornea-I cant find a word to describe the pain-and my husband said he could "smell" my terror. Dr then gave me erythomycin oph ointment and my corneas healed in 3 days but didnt slow the "uglies" one beat. Actually I think my pharmacist said abx should NOT be used if fungus is involved(I may be mistaken). BUT my experience w/the gentamycin may not be yours-I think the reason products affect us differently is due to any coinfections we may have. OCuSoft make eyelid cleansing pads that help but once in a while my vision is blurred after use and it feels like my eyes are crawling w/the uglies. Awful. Just awful. Lavender baby shampoo is a help but short lived.
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