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Post by Chemist G on Jul 17, 2005 19:13:51 GMT -5
You know JJ, that wasn't the intention at all - and you can plainly see that I wrote "and all the others that have successfully treated this condition" implying ANYONE who's smart enough to see the answer which is ANTIBIOTICS against BACTERIA - specifically the tetracyclines, sulfa drugs, and fluoroquinolones.
Just trying to help those I see going off on mad tangents that won't get them anywhere, but hey, if you all don't want any help then maybe it's best I spend my time elsewhere. My symptoms are gone - G-O-N-E!
Have FUN "hangin",
Chemist G
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Post by Ed on Jul 17, 2005 19:29:26 GMT -5
My symptoms are gone - G-O-N-E! Have FUN "hangin", Chemist G ah........never liked chemistry; general, organic, quanitative, qualitative, bio, and analytical...not hanging...just hung. Ed
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Post by Jeff on Jul 17, 2005 19:30:29 GMT -5
JJ - I think he was bringing it up with regard to the fact that he's successfully treated himself with antibiotics. The comparison is that those others are txing patients with antibiotics as well.
I'm still not entirely convinced, at least in my case, because family members were picking bugs off of me when this started, but that doesn't necessarily matter - if taking out the bacteria is the easiest part of the food chain to deal with, or if the bugs or worms or whatever various people (including me) have or had were in fact only vectors for the bacteria.
Chem, you said: "Just trying to help those I see going off on mad tangents that won't get them anywhere, but hey, if you all don't want any help then maybe it's best I spend my time elsewhere. My symptoms are gone - G-O-N-E!"
Darn, I hope you are right, but recurrences seem common from reading this board. I suppose one good thing is that you were able to hit this thing earlier, and probably still have a pretty decent immune system.
Interesting, going over past posts it seems that tetra-type antibiotics has been a common factor in more of those who have alleviated or eliminated symptoms than the other Scwartz antibiotics (Avelox - Septra).
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Post by jj on Jul 17, 2005 19:38:54 GMT -5
Chem G, Help is good. You have been very helpful to some. A little less arrogance and alot more tact and you could be helpful to everyone. I will always be hangin well or not, because I care. ......... still hangin, JJ.
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Post by Chemist G on Jul 17, 2005 20:51:37 GMT -5
You are very right JJ, I aplogize to you and the many others I have offended.
Take Care,
Chemist G
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Post by Angel on Jul 23, 2005 13:33:28 GMT -5
I don't think I would bet my life. People with compromised immune systems are usually infected with many different types of parasites and other pathogens. Susiebelle - Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU! I did some serious pondering on your post (after a few strong brews) and it hit me like a ton of bricks: I know what we're dealing with!!! At first I got a good laugh out of the "warts' thread but I'm not laughing now. Chlamydia is a bacterium that shares viral properties making it extremely hard to pinpoint, thus it was misdiagnosed for years. They cannot be gram stained because of their size and cannot be cultured because they need living cells for their source of energy (thus the "stay away from sugar dealio"). Furthermore they do not have a peptidoglycan layer so the penecillin derivatives do ZERO against them!!! Same deal here - this pathogen is a bacteria with viral properties. The three main drug classes effective against chlamydia are the tetracyclines, sulfa drugs, and fluroquinolones. Guess what's working against morgs??? YES - only those same three! Coincidence??? NO QUESTION - I KNOW WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH! DONE DEAL! UNREAL!!! This may be sexually transmitted. CHEMIST G Are you saying we cannot be tested for this....I thought there was a test for Chlamydia?? sedonia7@msn.com
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Post by Angel on Jul 23, 2005 13:49:24 GMT -5
I talked to woman with our symptoms who has 3/4 inch long bugs coming out of her skin. She is going on 7 years. Her bf committed suicide after 2 years. rickndebby, you are very welcomed. Also check out Cumanda. It is a tree bark extract that kills many bad things in your system. Start slow on anything you try. You can buy colloidial silver at any pharmacy or health store. It is the original antibiotics, and is awesome. Things won't build up resistance to it. It is absolutely non-toxic. You can put it in your eyes and take it internally. It's only good for you, and will kill bad things in your system. I am spraying anywhere that itches, as well as spraying my bed with it. I have seen the worms with split tails under the microscope. Sometimes the split is on the side. But I have also seen microscopic springtails, louse-looking bug, occasional mites, thread-like worms (nematodes?), flies, fleas, and more. Seems like the nematodes are the only thing that is proliferate. And I do feel things crawling up my legs so maybe all these bugs are feeding off us. However, I think this is a parasitic fly with a parasitic infection. The very aggressively parasitic fly lives in our hair, bed, carpet, etc. It bites us and gives us skin parasites. Remember my story, after going to Mexico I came down with this, moved out of our home in the RV, and while trying to burn everything some carpet sat outside too long and things started hatching out of it (I guess) because we never had no-see-ums before. First there were flea-like things biting my ankles, but I couldn't see them, and at that time I had no idea how to even begin to catch microscopic things. Then there was the biting below the waist from a flying insect. It was like the flea-things hatched into flying-things. They were biting the hell out of only me, and where they bit I had itching and crawling. Does anyone else get more crawling after doing yardwork? I can't even rake leaves anymore. It's just not worth the misery. As for the bugs - one could easily argue they arise from opportunistic pathogens as a secondary infection totally unrelated to the initial condition (Morgs). Seems to me someone asleep in bed with lesions all over their body and a suppressed immune system would be a prefect target for insect pathogens! I'll stick to my guns - Morgs is about bacteria, not insects, not worms, not nematodes. Can the others happen in a Morgs patient? Sure! But that's not at the root of the problem, the bacteria IS and the sooner you all get that in your heads then the sooner you all can start getting better!!! Do you think that Dr. Savely, Dr. Schwartz, Dr. Marshall, myself and all the others that have successfully treated this are all wrong??? Pass the antibiotics and BE WELL PEEPS!!! Chemist G There are so many drugs out there that I don't know where to begin. So this is bacteria??....is chlymidia a bacteria??? you mentioned that. Where does one start.....I took flagyl....still not sure what that did but I know I am better. Not as swollen I have bactrim ds but am afraid to take it,,,no doctor. So it sits in the kitchen I can get tetracycline from Mexico and others. The last time I went I asked for Ivermectin and they said they dont have it. I did not know mexican name. So now I see that it is called Stromectal I think that is the mexican term...is that right? So Ivermectin is called Stromectal- - Tetracycline.....does anyone know what that one is called in Mexico. HERE IS WHAT SOMEONE SENT ME So far I have had 8 doses of Iver Mectin -5--12 Mg doses and 3 --18 Mg doses it comes in a tiny 3 mg pill sold as stromectrol and it really seems to be working. Now I am also taking tetracycline 250 mg twice a day and my doctor wants me to take that for the next 6 weeks to see if it helps. Right now I am 95 to 97% better than I was prior to Feb 25th when I started with the Iver Mectin. This crawling and biting was all over my entire body throughout the months of Jan. and Feb. This never left my scalp until I shaved all of the hair off of my head. I also have used a blow dryer on myself to try to dehydrate this organism. The Iver Mectin seems to be working for me .Good Luck and I hope you are all well soon. We can beat this. THEN I RECEIVED THIS ONE FROM HIM TODAY, MORE INFO. Five doses of twelve milligrams and three doses of eighteen milligrams of stromectrol WOULD LIKE TO HEAR BACK FROM SOME ONE ABOUT DRUGS Angel
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Post by Angel on Jul 23, 2005 13:52:05 GMT -5
You are very right JJ, I aplogize to you and the many others I have offended. Take Care, Chemist G Thanks for being up front and to the point about all this. I like reading your posts because you are this way. I also laugh when reading them and giggling is good for the soul. Angel
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Post by Angel on Jul 23, 2005 13:54:38 GMT -5
You know JJ, that wasn't the intention at all - and you can plainly see that I wrote "and all the others that have successfully treated this condition" implying ANYONE who's smart enough to see the answer which is ANTIBIOTICS against BACTERIA - specifically the tetracyclines, sulfa drugs, and fluoroquinolones. Just trying to help those I see going off on mad tangents that won't get them anywhere, but hey, if you all don't want any help then maybe it's best I spend my time elsewhere. My symptoms are gone - G-O-N-E! Have FUN "hangin", Chemist G Please dont leave, we need you here. I can see you are right about a ton of things. Angel
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Post by Jeff on Jul 23, 2005 15:14:51 GMT -5
Angel,
First, about the drugs. Stromectol is the brand name of ivermectin in the US. There are at least two other brand names I saw in Mexico, but one of the brand names in Mexico is ivermectina (yes, just add the "a"). A pharmacy in Mexico I visited didn't recognize "ivermectina" when I asked for it - maybe just due to my gringo accent - but had me write it down and they looked it up in a book. What they gave me was ivermectin, but I don't remember the title on the labeling. Also saw in Mexico what I think is the Canadian brand name - Mectizan.
Second, how did this person space out the ivermectin? Sounds like it was taken repetitively in a relatively short time. My liver says "ouch" just thinking about that. Of course, I'd risk it if I had reason to believe it would work.
Take care, Jeff
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Post by Angel on Jul 23, 2005 21:39:22 GMT -5
I dont know, I will have him get back to me. I started taking B1 today as I was told mosquitoes won't bother you if you take it and so I was thinking that if that is the case, then these bugs in my office that bite me, a new thing and the invisible ones, maybe they will leave me alone it is worth a try and then I am taking a bath in Johnson's lavender baby oil and oregano oil....and I am now wiping flakes off of me instead of worms---these things that come out are sticky and gross. I think the OO dried them up. Hope thats the case. I will get back and tell you if all this works. Do any of you make your own colloidal silver and if you do, please give me more info. HERE IS WHAT SOMEONE SENT ME TODAY WHAT DO YOU THINK....... have no faith at all in the commercial preparations of colloidal silver. Better to buy a low cost appliance to make your own - then it's cost is truly negligible - and you know the stuff is fresh too. Yes, just spray it on. Cuts, cold sores, rashes - anything. If I had those worms I'd be spraying the area repeatedly every hour until they were gone. Internally I have taken up to a half-pint 3 times a day. But we are all different - feel your way into what is right for you. On the zapping I would be doing it 2 to 4 times a day until I was clear. First session [ 3x8 min with 20 min gaps] I would hold both terminals in my hands. Second session I would attach both terminals to my feet. Third session I would hold one in my hand and attach one to the opposite foot. Fourth session I would reverse the hand/foot combination of the previous session. Himalayan Crystal Salt: All your questions and more are answered at: www.bestcare-uk.com/ [ you could probably find a local source for purchasing - it really is amazing stuff ]. Organic coconut oil is also very curative - internally and externally. And so is exposure to Full Spectrum Lighting - a couple of bright lamps bombarding the effected areas would probably help you a lot - and the worms not at all. THIS LIGHTING THAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT I THINK THE INFA RED SAUNA IS JUST AS GOOD....DONT YOU? Angel
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Post by Orion*** on Jul 24, 2005 1:34:50 GMT -5
I have a lot of info on colloidaal silver in my arcives--It comes up so often here that I think that I will start a thread on it---it is an excellant antimicrobial and works on them all ,fungus alike...the person writing the post on it was right on the mark as far as what I have been able to learn about the CC. To cure lyme or morgellons one will have to permiate every tissue in the body and yet be nontoxic to the system,,,There have been cases of people turning gray like an ET from over doseing on CC--the condition is not reversable, but it is one aspect that makes CC so effective--it truly soaks in. One just has to not go over board on the stuff. I have no idea what an over dose would be.. If you decide to try it just research it very good. Ceramic water filters have silver imbeded in them because of their bacteriastaticle propertys.
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Post by Orion*** on Jul 24, 2005 2:01:31 GMT -5
Nematoads are a form of worm. Bacreria and virus are much too small to be sean except with a high resolution microscope---a virus is so small as to take an electron microscope. Almost every thing that I observe can only be seen through a 30X res, I have morgellons and I do not have bugs coming out of my skin--i do not have intestinal worms-- The black fibers hatch out of the black specks,I;ve watched them. I have jellintous blobs in my ears.I have clear flakes in my ears. Can be seen only with #30X I have managed over the past 3 months to clear these out of my ears---
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Post by Angel on Jul 24, 2005 10:09:42 GMT -5
What an awful thing, to be gray from now on like an alien. HERE IS WHAT MY FRIEND ALSO SAID "Possibly the best thing of all that you could do is to get some food grade Diatomaceous Earth and take that daily. This is amazing stuff that shreds parasites throughout the body - and gives you a very valuable source of silica as well. Do a Google on it. You can get it here: www.safesolutionsinc.com or www.grass-of-the-sea.com sedonia7@msn.com
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Post by Angel on Jul 24, 2005 10:11:42 GMT -5
ORION: THIS LINK HAS A LOT OF INFO ON MAKING YOUR OWN COLLOIDAL SILVER....SEE WHAT YOU THINK Angel www.realmshift.co.uk/
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Post by Angel on Jul 24, 2005 10:14:42 GMT -5
I am so sorry you are going through this.
It must be really awful--I will pray for you I am hoping they will find a solution to all this soon.
Have you tried any of the drugs like septra etc.
How did you get them out of your ears.
Peace be with you my friend.
Angel
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Post by Angel on Jul 24, 2005 10:19:07 GMT -5
HERE IS ANOTHER E MAIL FROM MY FRIEND RE HIS TREATMENT....THOUGHT I WOULD SHARE THIS WITH ALL OF YOU.
Last tuesday i saw Dr Fried and i explained to him that i was told to take tetracycline along with iver mectin to eliminate the bacteria that this organism is feeding on.
He said that he has no problem with that and prescribed tetracycline to me for the next 6 weeks until my next appointment
and 1 more 18 Mg dose of iver mectin
I asked him what this organism is and if i was being given good info regarding tetracycline.
He told me that he has been in touch with some of the best doctors from the institutes of higher learning across the usa and they agree that there is some kind of organism which is living in our skin but they have been unable to identify it.
AMAZING ISN'T THIS.....YIPPEE...WE ARE ON TRACK....THIS SHOULD GIVE EVERYONE HOPE
Angel
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Post by Patti on Jul 24, 2005 10:24:37 GMT -5
Thank you so much for this, Angel.......we have become so used to nobody wanting to talk about this that it really does give rise to hope. Bless you!
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Post by Taratula38dr jekyl on Jul 24, 2005 10:52:48 GMT -5
I dont know, I will have him get back to me. I started taking B1 today as I was told mosquitoes won't bother you if you take it and so I was thinking that if that is the case, then these bugs in my office that bite me, a new thing and the invisible ones, maybe they will leave me alone it is worth a try and then I am taking a bath in Johnson's lavender baby oil and oregano oil....and I am now wiping flakes off of me instead of worms---these things that come out are sticky and gross. I think the OO dried them up. Hope thats the case. I will get back and tell you if all this works. Do any of you make your own colloidal silver and if you do, please give me more info. HERE IS WHAT SOMEONE SENT ME TODAY WHAT DO YOU THINK....... have no faith at all in the commercial preparations of colloidal silver. Better to buy a low cost appliance to make your own - then it's cost is truly negligible - and you know the stuff is fresh too. Yes, just spray it on. Cuts, cold sores, rashes - anything. If I had those worms I'd be spraying the area repeatedly every hour until they were gone. Internally I have taken up to a half-pint 3 times a day. But we are all different - feel your way into what is right for you. On the zapping I would be doing it 2 to 4 times a day until I was clear. First session [ 3x8 min with 20 min gaps] I would hold both terminals in my hands. Second session I would attach both terminals to my feet. Third session I would hold one in my hand and attach one to the opposite foot. Fourth session I would reverse the hand/foot combination of the previous session. Himalayan Crystal Salt: All your questions and more are answered at: www.bestcare-uk.com/ [ you could probably find a local source for purchasing - it really is amazing stuff ]. Organic coconut oil is also very curative - internally and externally. And so is exposure to Full Spectrum Lighting - a couple of bright lamps bombarding the effected areas would probably help you a lot - and the worms not at all. THIS LIGHTING THAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT I THINK THE INFA RED SAUNA IS JUST AS GOOD....DONT YOU? Angel Hey take some satchets with menthol crystals in them to work and put them in your work area. Worked wonders for me. No more biting there or at home. JFW told me about them....I owe him a kiss smooches
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Post by TP on Jul 24, 2005 10:58:54 GMT -5
Hello....1st time posting Just FYI concerning tetracycline as an effective treating for parasites....... Here is the link and a excerpt from a news story (BBC) from June 6, 2000 Professor Alexander Trees and his team from the Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine and the University of Liverpool's faculty of veterinary science, found that killing bacteria which are abundant in the worm tissues leads to its death. They discovered that the most closely related parasite to the Onchocerca volvulus worm - the O. ochengi nematode - died after the bacteria living in it were killed by an ordinary antibiotic treatment of tetracycline. news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/779698.stm
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