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Post by toni on Jul 17, 2007 10:11:45 GMT -5
I was wondering hahaha I'm playing! ;D You have mail.
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Post by browncircles on Jul 17, 2007 13:54:22 GMT -5
The tiny things flying out of my car are much smaller than the pictures in the links.
This was in one of the links: I don't have any at my home (I live 25 miles outside the city), but at work, on Lackland Air Force Base, they are swarming by the millions. Just walking outside gets you covered by the things.
Lackland AFB? I've heard that somewhere before. Wonder why bugs would like an AFB so much?
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Post by Roberta Louise on Jul 18, 2007 0:17:07 GMT -5
Hi there art I do hope you try it and that it works for you. Spray liberally and then rub it into your skin. I bet that you will feel them with your fingers these things coming out. Good luck and best wishes. Roberta
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Post by socalsandy on Jul 18, 2007 6:10:05 GMT -5
Toni , this is what I see in and on my car while I wait at the trolley for my husband, they are also on my faucet in my kitchen, look like bits of ash or fluff. Hence the Collembola has come to eat on us and our homes for the CLM. Now which variety of CLM that is the true mystery, but they all cure the same. Sad to say, this site has been taken over by people hocking products ( no not you), just like the site before where we all could share, I was on it for 4 years, before it became rulled by 2 or 3 people. Don't need all that junk, just use common sense and save your money. For many years I tried all the cleaners, sauna, enzymes, zappers , silver, copper , infrared light and soooooooooooooooooomuch more. But believe me our global warming is playing a significant roll in this. Most Dr's don't know about CLM and there are so many different sand flys, but we all know if we have done our homework that this gets worse during war times, they called it trench fever in WWI and something else in WW2, Gulf war syndrome during desert storm and now a mutated little fly from where else but Iraq has landed and multiplied and may have even been altered by the old chemical Dr or us, who knows ? We have not been attacked by aliens or chem trails, listen up people we have a skin parasite that creeps out of our saliva and wounds so tiny not all of us can see it, until we are so taken over that it is hard not to. It has a 20 to 28 day cycle of entering through skin, into the lymph system to the trachea and then to our small intestines where it breeds and multiplies and out through our , well I won't say.I just have studied this and journaled it scientifically for years and now I am sure , I don't have scabies, never did, systomiasis, leshmanias , bartonella (although close) and a variety of others. Don't listen I m no Dr but I am intelligent, (just can't spell) that is so funny as I have written over 20 books and published them too. The irony of it.
I spray windex in the air all over my house and the residual of them land and can be whipped away, I spray my dogs back with Fabris and they fly off. When I bath him I use baking soda on him and it really causes a mass exit from his hair and he loves it. Peroxide or rubbing alcohol; in the shower really does a trick and so does salt. Vinegar works but can dry you up and make you stink. I pour chlorine in drains as that is where the collembola live , and it helps for you feet in the shower. However you can't get rid of them as they live in hot tubs, pools, saunas and any where they can feed off of dead skin or dying by products. Most treatments include for CLM are,:antibiotics, al or medbendazole and and ivermectin. Some can get rid of it topically with Ether spray or Chlorine spray prescribed by a Dr of course. I am very tried of this site allowing a few to run it , like their cure is the best and only one. OOPs there I go again !! Most products are at the store and are very cheep. If we can't get our Dr's to listen we have to try a different Dr. I am sorry I probably said to much about the folks on here hocking all the gypsy products for suckers. So maybe I won't post for awhile , just read and laugh. Sandra aka socalsandy
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Post by abbienormal on Jul 18, 2007 8:12:24 GMT -5
Sandra, I appreciate your post immensely and thank you very much for all of your home remedies. Please don't leave as your contributions to this board are much appreciated I don't quite understand though, is the mutatated fly in the collembola family? Is it the same as the white flying bug in my video at the beginning of this thread? A kind man sent me this pm at YouTube today and I know that he is not hawking any product because you can buy it in the drugstore for a couple of dollars: A Cure For Morgellons Disease
Get it now before they find a way to ban it! We have found a cure for Morgellon's Disease...a friend of mine had Morgellons Disease and used this product. Within days the Morgellons was GONE.
This simple antiseptic called MERCUROCLEAR will CURE MORGELLONS DISEASE/PLAGUE...just apply it 2-3 times a day until the Morgellons is gone.
It can be found online at many places such as www.medco-school.com/Supply/Product.asp?Leaf_Id=261014 or even at a local drugstore.
Pass this on so this info can get out to those who need it. He called it a cure not me but I am going to try it. Abbie
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Post by socalsandy on Jul 18, 2007 8:52:38 GMT -5
My theory is it is a, Cutaneous Larval Migrans, of some species of the many sand flys , and that a colembola species has come to feed off of it, us who knows. I know Ruth has some pretty good pics of the little brown and white ones, but they can be white or black too. I guess what gets me so frustrated is the few on here that have a real bad time letting others tell what they have learned, and just flogging them with their products. You and toni are not those people. They write many blogs , even if one word ones to get more stars, if you get the drift and they refuse to let others speak, look on nearly every post and there she is , just selling her saunas, zappers, enzyme cleaners and junk. What does she know, only had this a few years I bet, well I am older and have more morg knowledge , ha ! no pun intended, I get a little sarcastic with my wit, 12 + to be sure. About five years ago when I was on "Good Morning America" I remember talking to Elizabeth Vargas about this , she said she had seen so many people with a parasite syndrome since the war broke out again. What the corolation is , I am not positive, but I am sure our Gov does. My picture was dotted with white spots as we had to cover my face up with make up when I posed with Charlie Gibson. It is common knowledge that we dr up bugs and use them during wars as a Chemical or biological warfare, but maybe global warming spun it up a knotch or two. I have enjoyed my time sharing stories and hearing others , but as bugsalive and greema on the other site said it is a mix of junk and colembola is in there, and I am near positive it is a CLM of somekind. Sorry if I offended anyone , just get bored with her hocking like she knows the remedy when she hasn't tried to identify it. Penny on the other web site was so sure copper was the cure we all got so bored with her, even though she ment well, but she couldn't be swayed to let it go. Copper is a very harmful substance and some of the stuff "she" on this site recomends is too. I go for the basics and they work, no doubt. Thanks for sharing and you kind words, I have been up all night as my 16 year old autistic grandaughter has surgery this Am and I am terrified. I feel most of my family has this in some stage or another and that is a real worrysome thing. Sandra aka socalsandy
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Post by bugsy on Jul 18, 2007 9:37:27 GMT -5
Hey sandy. Hope your not talking about me. I try and be careful NOT to mention any product name as not to be accused of such things. Ha. I just like to share what works for me. In fact my daughter is severely allergic to the expensive stuff and she uses the 10.00 enzmye we get from the pet store.lol. Prolly the same ingredients. If you were not directing your comments at me please disregard this post.
~Bugsy
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Post by socalsandy on Jul 18, 2007 10:15:05 GMT -5
Na, not you she is a (()) person who hocks more than just enzymes. And truely it scares me that some may only try what she says cause she comes back at you so aggressive .
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Post by Admin on Jul 18, 2007 10:30:31 GMT -5
We are sorry to hear about your grandaughter's surgery Sandy. We will be keeping her in our prayers and hope you will let us know when you find anthing out. I think that most of us agree about this being passed among family members no matter how thats happening.
Sandy, if you are aware of anyone selling products for personal gain here, I hope you will write to one of the Admins. We have mentioned our policy on this many times, plus it's in a permanent post on the Main page. We don't mind name brands being mentioned because sometimes one brand will work better for our purposes than another. But anytime you are absolutely sure that a member is pushing their own product on this forum, we would really appreciate hearing about it. Take care and thanks for all your suggestions- I'm sure theyve helped a lot of peple.
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Post by abbienormal on Jul 18, 2007 11:43:45 GMT -5
Hi Sandy,
I too am sorry to hear about your grandaughter's surgery.
I hope that she sails through and please let us know how she is doing. This must be very stressful for you and I hope that you can hang in there too! I know that you can hang in but I hope you are not too overwhelmed but I know how it goes.
Abbie
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Post by Administration on Jul 18, 2007 12:59:33 GMT -5
Oh......... lets not forget the multi user names that one person can have and how that plays off on plugging and pushing products, creating more members on a board, pushing protocols, backing ones own opinion with a different user name and the list goes on and on.
Then there's the tag teams and the uses of the multi user names there also, but with a few people using the multi user names scenario for whatever is to be gained on that level.
nadie As for creating more members on a board, that is absolutely not true and it's unfair to make such an unfounded statement. I don't even know why you would think such a thing but it hurts us more than you know. Anyone can go into their Profile and change their Username, and I'm sure a few have done this from time to time - while I see no reason for it, it's certainly not against any rules. Nadie, you forget that we can see a lot more info about each person posting than the rest of you can - that's all I will say to address that issue. If you have any proof of these other public accusations, please present it to us via Personal Message and we'll act accordingly but we will not take action against any member based upon suspicion, rumor, or heresay. We would be just as fair if the accusations were directed at you. We are not perfect but we try and do the best we can, considering what we are up against. Remember that we are each suffering as much as the rest of you, some of us more. It's not easy to do this 24/7 while trying to keep our lives as uncomplicated and stress-free as possible. It's so easy to criticize but I would like to see others do a better job under the same set of circumstances (many of which you are not even aware). There is so much more involved to this than just monitoring the board but we continue to volunteer our time for the sake of all of you who suffer so much. However, if criticizing without all the facts is going to be the reaction of the majority, it must mean you are not happy here and we might as well shut down right now. We would much rather do that than have Lymebusters turn into one of the many forums out there where more arguing takes place than support. That's not why this forum was started and we won't let anyone turn it into something other than a reputable place where the members respect each other. For anyone else who would rather complain and make unfounded accusations than work together here, we refer you to our Welcome message which each of you should have read by now: lymebusters.proboards39.com/index.cgi?board=message&action=display&thread=1121525669 It's really sad that so much time and energy is being wasted on such things.
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Post by nadie on Jul 18, 2007 14:54:20 GMT -5
Sorry Admin you are 100% right. It's part of my illness. I will remove it.
Nadie
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Post by Patti on Jul 18, 2007 15:45:09 GMT -5
Thank you for that, Nadie. As Admin said, we aren't perfect and no doubt we miss things. We're trying very hard to keep this place unique and respectable so if you know of any improprieties going on here, please PM us and I promise you we'll handle it.
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Post by friskers on Jul 18, 2007 18:15:23 GMT -5
Thanks to all of you admin that donate your time to keep this board up! You ARE appreciated but not told near enough times!
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Post by Patti on Jul 18, 2007 19:14:48 GMT -5
Friski, I had a feeling you would come along with a compliment, you dear sweet lady.....thanks so much but not necessary. I don't want to drag this on (especially in Abbie's thread), but we've yet to hear from anyone and several serious, specific complaints were made publicly for all to read. The doubt has now been placed into everyone's mind, yet nothing has been backed up with any evidence or proof. I hope this helps you all to understand why something like this should remain private. Rumors are a dime a dozen but I don't think you want them muddying up our forum anymore than we do (and I mean OUR as in ALL of us). Now let's get back to the tiny white flying bug aka flying fiber.....etc. etc.
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Post by liatris on Jul 19, 2007 5:06:44 GMT -5
Browncircles and Roberta ----
Have either of you tried to send samples of these to an entomologist ? They would certainly recognize them as some sort of "bug". Of course, they may think that it had nothing to do with you. But, if it is a new species - that muchshould be able to be said, I imagine.
Roberta - I dunno, maybe you could find an alternative to hair spray. That stuff is seriously toxic. You don't want to have it make you sicker - run you down, screw up your liver.
Take care,
Liatris
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Post by Roberta Louise on Jul 19, 2007 7:45:35 GMT -5
Dearest dearest Liatris yes I have sent samples to an entomologist. Who resides in your country!!! Bobby Brown who is a diagnostic entomologist at Kansas State University. I found him on the i nternet about a year ago. I sent him heaps and heaps of samples and he did get back to me. Saying that he was very very busy which I completly understand. He said that he had looked at a quater of them and found a very rare spider and an unusual moth and a list of other things which I didn't take much notice of WHICH I SHOULD HAVE!!!!!!! He didn't mention fleas or lice. I sent Bobby Brown some souvenirs of NZ as a way of thanking him. He sounded so nice in his emails and I think that he is a very nice person but for some unknown reason he stopped corresponding with me and i don't know why. I would suggest that you contact him. You can look him up on the internet he has great credintials. i did send some samples to an entomologist in Auckland who worked for the Ministry of Agriculture and she sent me back a three page diatribe on DOP!!!!! I just cried and cried and cried. She found moths mosquitos ants and springtails!!!!! but she said said that they never invaded Humans!!!! and I beg to differ!!! Liatris I thought of you this morning while I was in bed rubbing the itchy area on my forearm when one of these little white winged things flew out of my arm on contact with the vaseline. I just thought to myself I wish that Liatris was here to see this. Please let me know if you contact Bobby Brown have you any samples to send to him? Please let me know if you contact him. Love and best wishes. Roberta.
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Post by liatris on Jul 20, 2007 20:24:59 GMT -5
Roberta -- Are you able to induce the white winged things to come out with vaseline or whatever ? Or can you tell when one is ready to come out ? The reason I ask is that is you could know a bit ahead of time, you could videotape it happening. From looking at your skin to it making it's way out onto the surface of your skin and then flying away. You probably don't have a video camera but if you actually could induce it to happen and had a TV camera person ready to film it, that would mean A LOT !!!!! Especially if you could have an MD present as a witness whose opinion would be the most respected on this. That video would do a lot for our cause. But, again, it is a question of being able to induce it to happen when you a video camera is ready to document it. Roberta, this stuff is just awful. We all should get metals and apologies at least.
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Post by Roberta Louise on Jul 21, 2007 1:13:56 GMT -5
Dearest Liatris I know where you are coming from and I would if I could. Please believe me. I haven't a video camera The only person I know to be able to do this is my daughters Godfather who is a senior camera man for the BBC and obviously lives in Britain. But I never know what is exiting the place where I itch. It can be tiny white gritty things like salt iticy hard black things or little black dots or little brownish/red dots sometimes the white fly thing but before that is a little white worm these are also in my dogs coat. The little worm is like very thin spagehtti then there is the threads that are crinkled and then the white threads and in Kyras coat red and green fibres. I have sent samples to Bobby Brown Liatris I sent sooo many cotton buds and stuck to cello tape. I had one GP about 6 months ago that I took her some specimens and she was horrified both times and threw them into her waste paper basket and wiped down her desk where I had ben resting my arm. She obviously new it was something but didn't want to know!!!!!!!! I have asked my phsciatrist to contact the Doctor who attended the woman with the fly coming out of her leg and he hasn't done anything about it!!!!!!! I will ask him again because I want to know if she has been cured and what has happened to her!!!!!!! He is very slack Liatris and obviously tunnel vision all he can think is DOP Well next time I see him I am going to tell him that no medidcation that he has given me has helped in any way at all and that I am at my wits end!!!!! I don't like the idea of taking on a physchiatrist but my case worker says that i have to speak out for my self. Another thing Liatris I never know where the itch is going to be on my body it can start anywhere. I did have a microscope that you attached to the computer Suzy from another board sent it to me but I couldn't work out how to work it. I also sent many many samples to Suzy and she thought it was a twisted wing fly also some insect that had a head and body and a brownish/red colour. I am sorry that I cann't be more helpful but please don't hesitate to ask me any questions that you might have. Love and best wishes. Roberta.
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Post by Roberta Louise on Jul 21, 2007 1:31:31 GMT -5
To socalsandy this is the only method I can find to reply to you. I was very impressed when yu mentioned that this thing also resides in our saliva. It dawned on me about two years aog that after my dog had licked herself she left a silver trail behind when that trail dried in the sun it had turned into tiny little white egg like things. I have no evidence that it is in my saliva but I do have a very strong feeling that they are there and also in my lungs. Thanks for your post. Best Roberta.
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