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Post by lilsissy on Jul 24, 2007 18:40:56 GMT -5
I found your links quite interesting some I had come across be for some I had not. Today I learned that some of the mutation is reverse scripted or anti-sense in schizophrenia 1q42, I have a brother who suffers greatly from this ,we have alot of bi-polar disorder in the family, Situs Inversus complete, fibroids, endometritus, transverse myelitis, our family's medical history looks like the disease index page on 1q42 , 1q43 LeftyA + LeftyB. Anyhow something I read today got me going a little bit.. I will try to send you the link, not real good at this thou. Anyway I read that the a mutate gene in the 1q42 region was reverse scripted in other words it was back wards ,mirrored image(anti sense I believe it is called)is also what they called situs inversus complete, if it reads back wards and if any gene silencing was ever used in any medicines couldn't this create chaos . Like the medicine that was given to Cystic Fibrosis's patients Alfa Recombinant I believe was pulled from the market suddenly because it caused illness.
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Post by lilsissy on Jul 25, 2007 19:59:03 GMT -5
Chaos, was on the rare disease page so she knows when they changed it, prior to that she preformed 944 searches that produced no Morgellons Paragraph. The rare disease's which turned up The Morgellons paragraph were as follows: Situs Inversus Complete 1q42 +**** Fragile X Xq11 + 1q42 3C Syndrome Xq11 + **** Plague Yersinia Phenomic Plague Yersinia Black Plague Yersinia I bet my sister's Morgies it s related to Morgellons and if their was an accident it was in the lab not on those computer pages. I want to thank whoever it was at the CDC for trying to help us on the sly, If you can make your way to an untraceable web site connection we need answers even if we don't like them . Thank You .... God Bless You
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Post by skytroll on Jul 25, 2007 23:54:58 GMT -5
Thank you lilsissy!
Answers and hints will come in various mysterious ways, that is the only way we will get there.
So, when we find errors or they say are errors, may just well be the truth.
Since reverse genoming is being used, so could reverse messages.
Since our country has operated using reverse psychology, for so long it has become instituted.
But, the CDC will do what they need to do or are allowed to do.
In the past, one needed a virus to break open genes, polio could have done this so easily in the past, what was the virus, the actual organism that caused polio in the first place?
Bacteriophages.......
Now, nano can do it, DNA/RNA.
Skytroll
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Post by chaosonline on Jul 26, 2007 15:36:40 GMT -5
I must be getting into this a quite late because lillsissy just emailed this to me: www.morgellons-uk.net/agrobacterium.htmIn short it says agrobacterium radiobacter was found in the DNA of first two Morgellons patients, then 3 more!!!:: Skin biopsy samples from two Morgellons patients were subjected to high-stringency PCR testing for genes encoded by the Agrobacterium chromosome. Screening of the same samples for Agrobacterium virulence (vir) genes and T-DNA sequences in the patient's genome was also performed. Results: PCR screening indicated the presence of Agrobacterium genes derived both from the chromosome and from the Ti plasmid, including the T-DNA, in tissues from both Morgellons patients. Skytroll or anybody, can you tell me why they couldn't go one step further and identified the type. Is it the wild (found in nature) or the GMO Agrobacterium Radiobacter k 84 or Agrobacterium Radiobacter k 1046. I have long suspected the 1046. See: www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=85827There has to a connection. karen W
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Post by chaosonline on Jul 27, 2007 22:44:31 GMT -5
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Post by toni on Jul 28, 2007 11:10:40 GMT -5
Kaosonline, If you use the "search", I've posted tons of info about this subject which might help in your understanding this. Here's a couple excellent articles in reponse to your question. www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=29349 www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/98/4/1871www.i-sis.org.uk/Agrobacterium.phpAlso, something I've not tried yet, but I am in a few minutes going to do this with a tomato - and see the results in a few days I suppose. I'd read about a gal who took an apple, poked a small hole in it, then placed a Thiabendazole pill inside the apple, Thiabendazole is in the antiparasiticals. She said it then grew fibers! Now, because I've not tried it myself (sort of afraid to really) don't want to stop eating if this does happen, but now my curosity is getting the best of me...so I don't have and apple right now, I'll do the tomato and see what comes up, or comes out. I know you're an experimenter too, so if you try this too, lets see what happens.
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Post by lilsissy on Jul 28, 2007 15:44:24 GMT -5
Great job, Toni I'm terrible At sending links but check out the goggle search for patent poly fibers agrobacterium. Have you tried to see the fibers moving on cotton balls yet. I even found a scientific article were some scientists were studying this NonContractile motion in cotton fibers you'll find it under that search Maybe Chaos can send post a link. Take some cotton swabs place on dark background let the early sun shine on the swabs from the side. I saw snake like waving fibers moving in opposite directions freaky freaky freaky. The freaks come out in the sun. The swabs I used were stored in the dark and made in Italy Meijer Brand . If we could get the Media to look into this then maybe more people would believe it is possible for human's to produce high density polyethylene from their skin. This was surely not the result of air flow or static electricity as they (cotton fibers) moved in opposite directions. We now have modified cotton to produce poly Thur agro and have proof agro can also mutate human D.N.A. so now people can produce poly.
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Post by chaosonline on Jul 28, 2007 15:58:03 GMT -5
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Post by toni on Jul 29, 2007 9:56:26 GMT -5
Lilsissy,
Yes, I've seen the cotton a zillon times move, it's horribly scarey! I also picked a long writhing twirling piece of cotton out of my skin too!
Try wetting the cotton with water first. Then take a needle and lift up some of the fibers where they stick out, don't remove them, just lift them up where they're standing outwards from the cotton ball or q-tip. Then watch the show! They're frightening how alive they are.
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Post by lilsissy on Jul 29, 2007 21:04:26 GMT -5
Skytroll , were did you go. Did you get a line on all this yet? I just came back from my sister chaos's house . She has a microscope she hooks up to the computer. We checked out some of my rash area's . I pulled out real strong fibers and morgie looking things. Doesn,t surprise me in 1994 I was in a wheelchair from pain ,diagnosied with lupus. Another Doctor told me it was Fibro, later Epstein Bar succesivley high ,Doc called it Chronic Fatique. Pain spealicist ran some blood test for food allergys , everthing he tested me for I was allergic to. My health has improved since I have eliminated corn,peanuts ,soy, milk,fish, sheelfish,wheat,eggs. Another Doc told me my uterus is much to stiff and fibrotic. Now I have an enlarged heart and chronic infiltration right and left perihilar region. I learned long ago not to stress about it I believe everyday we live is a blessing and we are here by the grace of God. I am not complaining about my health problems ,I tell this here to others so that we might learn together. I can say that I came out of that wheelchair with a new outlook on life and began working out. I took a job as a carpenter and occasionally still erect scaffolding thats pretty good for a female pushing 50. I believe maybe sweating this stuff out helps but in is obivious that I am full of these fibers maybe they can make you weak as they first did when I first became sick . Now my strenght is scary for my size, the crew and bosses on my job watch me lift with amazement. I think I have turned to strong . Does that sound weird thats what scares me . God Bless to all lilsissy
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Post by zabrubon on Jul 29, 2007 23:01:06 GMT -5
lilsissy, may i ask you why you chose those particular foods to stop eating. Just want to hear your thoughts on it. Thanks. ChicagoBonnie
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Post by lilsissy on Jul 29, 2007 23:54:39 GMT -5
Hi Chicago Bonnie, I eliminated those foods at the Doctors advice because he had done a IGE Blood test to test for food allergies, Those were the foods they tested me for. Their were eight foods in total . I was allergic to all eight . o=no allergy 6= anaphlectic shock . I was a three to four level in every one. I had no idea I was allergic to any food although I knew I didn't tolerate milk very well. He had just attended a symposium on fibromyalgia and learned there was a connection to food allergies. He called the pain I was having a type 3 allergy reaction. He was right . I feel much better now but if I eat those foods within hours to maybe next day, I'm all messed up again. It passes thou as long as I don't keep eating those foods.
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Post by betsy on Jul 30, 2007 12:39:08 GMT -5
Where is this allergy specialist?
If not in our area, what should we look for in an allergy specialist and allergy testing?
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Post by lilsissy on Jul 30, 2007 15:01:42 GMT -5
Betsy, I wished I could tell you , if I were looking for one .I would ask around your area to see if someone could give you recommendations . Maybe your primary care physician could point you in the right direction. A Internet search for Allergist in your area may be help full. The test I had was a IGE ,Serum. It test's you for the eight foods that foods most often causing allergy reactions. Any Doctor can order it, often though Doctors are not familiar with it. I'm sure an allergy specialist would be though. Look up ( type three allergy reaction) this may be help full, God Bless lilsissy
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Post by skytroll on Jul 31, 2007 1:37:03 GMT -5
Yup, getting a line on it, seems much more involved, but agrobacterium is definetly a player.
When one only looks to alter genes, one is not necessarily looking at what cures disease.
All genetic diseases are caused by mutations. Mutations are caused by viral packages. Mutations are caused by chemical compounds Mutations are caused by electrical/magnetic voltage Mutations are caused by prokaryotes breaking into eukaryotes by by way of redux and re-creating life or should I say re-evolving life.
Wonder if that means if the earth began with a Big Bang, then to prevent the Big Bang at the end, one must re-alter genes. Then we did not evolve as human beings.
Or if we evolved as human beings, then how do we prevent evolution from happening? How to we de-evolve? to re-evolve?
DNA then must be the origin of life?
How can it be the origin and destruction at the same time?
We know the diseases that can be prevented.
To say genes are what causes disease, is an excuse to alter and mutate those genes, hence, causing more disease. More drugs from proteins of plants and animals to put in humans to make the genes more alike, and to use the homeobox genes to make sure that those alike genes in the mouse are used in the alike genes in the human and the amoeba, the e-coli, the s. ceriviseae (yeast), the water bear, the euglena, the fruit fly, the midge, rice, aradopsis, the potato, by putting human genes in plants and animals and plants and animal genes in humans.
A symbiosis is the only thing that will make Evolution viable and actually believable.
This might be more beneficial in understanding that yeasts, bacteria, virus, fungi, mold and alterations of their genes, and substituting, altering, and re-arranging the origin of life will cause evolution.
Hope I am making sense here, but, if you can hear the message you will know what I mean.
Therefore, when what we had is part of evolution, and evolution can be recreated right before our very eyes. Redux to the beginning to show the origin, then recreate it or re-evolve it.
So, one can see where the problem lies, and all that money to prove we evolved and curing disease was not the aim of the genomes at all. What if the Origin of Life premise established and all action taken toward that premise is wrong?
How is anyone or ones 100% sure that the premise for the origin of life is the correct one. Where is the proof?
Maybe the beginning was gentle, maybe it was quiet, maybe it was love in its purest form.
An artist at work.
Skytroll
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Post by betsy on Jul 31, 2007 15:18:29 GMT -5
Man is stupid; God is smart.
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Post by lilsissy on Jul 31, 2007 15:26:04 GMT -5
Does all that have to do with the watchers of man in Genisis and the new breed the Nephili that was created when the watchers found the daughters of men where fair , it really sounds like your talking about the age of convergance . Is this correct? This kind of sounds like you are saying in order to keep the 8th day from repeating back to the first we must back track to the origin of the first creation, retro-design or reverse enigineer the scheme of things, but God designed all things after thier own species, man in mixing them up seems to be doing the same thing as eating from the forbidden fruit, maybe thats how we came to have fruit fly genes in us. All this is so bizzare but so happening now. It gives me comfort to know that God is still on the throne and I believe he loves me even if I'm part fly or plant, souls the same. Did you get any of this?
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Post by toni on Jul 31, 2007 17:46:07 GMT -5
Betsy,
You can call your state's medical board, I think they'll be able to help you.
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Post by skytroll on Jul 31, 2007 20:53:45 GMT -5
I have wondered why the Allergists where not all over this disease. That along with the Dermotologists should have been on top of this.
Oh well, looking for how to cure may just be a terrible problem, but, I do believe our Dr. Citovsky has the knowledge to look at the gm end of things.
Glad you brought up the allergy thing, many are allergic to the new gm foods, because the proteins where changed and we are supposed to digest proteins that are not normally in our systems.
You all are so good on here. When somebody said dig, your shovels were polished.
Yes, there is truth in the above statements, lississy. So much there and I am looking too.
SKytroll
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Post by lilsissy on Aug 1, 2007 22:16:07 GMT -5
Have any Morgellons sufferers had a positive T.B. test. I just read an article that agrobactrium infections will cause a positive T.B. test. I also have been reading about Von Whilpple's Disease that causes rods in the body, it is caused by a bacterium infection , interesting. lilsissy
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