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Post by sammy on Oct 27, 2007 23:31:51 GMT -5
PS- I do have a question. Is the silent superbug on you tube & others places to be view by the public? I didn't know if it has ever been on there. It has the right kind of info to make people get real curious about this. Thanks.
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sondra
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Post by sondra on Oct 28, 2007 0:51:41 GMT -5
Hi morgellons moe...what did the letter from Kaiser say? Are you being asked to participate in a study? Everyone, I don't like kaiser anymore than anyone else..I have had my dealings with them.. I hold the medical report that describes my symptoms with a diagnosis of delusional. I wonder if Dr. Harvey can share any of his findings with Kaiser? Sondra Napa , California,
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Post by morgellonsmoe on Oct 28, 2007 8:29:23 GMT -5
Sondra I am not have not and will not ever be involved with anything Kaiser is leading us to believe they are doing ,
Toni posted that she got a letter not me ..
I keep trying to tell all you people that your energy is best spent collecting change and bottles while walking and sending that to the MRF like me. I am in South Carolina , kaiser isn't even here and being an HMO it is foolish to think they want to help . An HMO makes money by denying people care see the movie "Sicko " by Micheal Moore
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Post by toni on Oct 28, 2007 9:27:06 GMT -5
Wait Moe...I didn't say that, what do you mean?
Please don't quote me when that is ((( not my quote))). I love ya, but I did NOT say that.
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Post by toni on Oct 28, 2007 9:30:16 GMT -5
Please erase that...thank you Moe.
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Post by godog on Oct 28, 2007 10:34:37 GMT -5
Guys, thankyou for all your activism and thanks to Niels also because we need the watchdog types also for sure. I myself am not computer savvy enough to do stuff like Toni or sciencey enough to dig for info and be able to understand it like Skytroll and Niels and others and not enough energy for the types of things Moe and Pez do. So I feel a little guilty. BUT, I am making progress in my town and at the health clinic I go to. People around me are starting to believe. The winds are shifting, so to speak. So, I will keep hammering away to anyone that will listen about this disease and if I ever am able to get on disability, I will join the ranks of the more active Morgie/Lyme warriors. Thanks to all of you who refuse to give up and that are constantly brainstorming and writing those letters and everything else.
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Post by morgellonsmoe on Oct 28, 2007 11:22:06 GMT -5
I was answering this " Hi morgellons moe...what did the letter from Kaiser say? Are you being asked to participate in a study? " By stating that I did not start this thread Toni did .. thats all the other things were what I said Relax I am not saying you said a dang thing Toni only that you started this post by saying you got a letter not me
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Post by Sidney on Oct 28, 2007 11:27:05 GMT -5
Sondra I am not have not and will not ever be involved with anything Kaiser is leading us to believe they are doing , Toni posted that she got a letter not me .. I keep trying to tell all you people that your energy is best spent collecting change and bottles while walking and sending that to the MRF like me. I am in South Carolina , kaiser isn't even here and being an HMO it is foolish to think they want to help . An HMO makes money be denying people care see the movie "Sicko " by Micheal Moore So, to simplify, Toni started the thread. Sondra needs to begin at page one and catch up. Toni doesn't live in South Carolina. Moe lives in South Carolina where Kaiser appears not to exist. We don't have Kaiser here either, thankfully, and if we did I would hope not to ever be forced to depend on them for medical assistance. Moe posted about collecting change in bottles to help the MRF.
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Post by Patti on Oct 28, 2007 11:34:30 GMT -5
I think that.... Sondra misunderstood and thought MMoe had received the email. When MMoe said "Toni posted that she got a letter not me .. ", she meant Toni had started the thread. That was a paragraph by itself and the next paragraph was Moe's own thoughts, not a quote that somebody else had said. I know how difficult it is to understand what people mean when you can't see their faces to read them as they talk, or be right there to ask them about things you misunderstand. Hope all is okay now.
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Post by toni on Oct 28, 2007 11:51:41 GMT -5
Boy...I did misunderstand...SORRY Moe!!! And anyone else who was wondering.
I got that all "miscomboomerated" if you know what I mean.
GEEZE...I found the marble that fell out, haha
I'm adding this now:
Okay...there was no marble that fell out...(you've changed the wording I see) And not to make a big deal out of this at all...but I did read it correctly the first time, cause I and Mr T see that it's changed and makes more sense or is clear now.
Thanks Moe.
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Post by toni on Oct 28, 2007 18:19:38 GMT -5
Oh okay Moe, I see what you intended, but that's not what I reacted to, what you've changed it to "your intention"...cause you have changed your post from what I'd commented to originally right?
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Post by betsy on Oct 28, 2007 22:20:56 GMT -5
Niels,
Glad to see you took "positive action". I think your point in all of this is well taken.
Meanwhile, Toni is right. We certainly do need to attract big bucks for private funding. Maybe Pez could repost those letters for all to see. Maybe they would work for the Las Vegas person Toni mentioned.
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Post by glennb on Oct 29, 2007 1:31:27 GMT -5
"I understand how you're feeling and thinking. Me too underneath if I allow my anger to get the best of me. But...WE have the media, who can expose US ALL...and ask questions and do everything WE NEED them to do".
Are you kidding? The media is highly controlled by a very small group of elite interests and you can darn well bet that they are not going to air news that might affect the profit line of any of their elite members or interfere with their long term evil goals. WE do not have the media that is a MYTH!! The media has long since quit performing its function as "the fourth estate", a function that was so important to democracy and a well-informed populace. Recent example: CBS pulled a poll that showed Ron Paul is way more popular than George W Bush.
And what ? Someone was surprised thier protests didn't get on CNN? CNN is the official CIA NEWs NETWORK in case you havn't heard.
You may hear some of the news on CNN but there is lots you won';t ever hear about on CNN. They have let the army conduct Psychological OPerations training there and they had the gall to broadcast an Oasama Bin Ladin video with an obviously fake Osama in it!
Additionally they passed off as real a tape of the disaster on 9/11 that showed a big devil head in the smoke... that was pure psyops if you ask me.
The media has also refused to take a serious look at the highly relevant link between Morgellons and Lyme and I have yet to see anything in mainstream media about the findings of self replicating nanobots in the bodies of morgellons victims. This shocking news that was turned up by a respected researcher should sell a lot of papers if it ever makes headlines, so why haven't they broadcast this alarming news? Information in is highly controlled.
We are living in something akin to The Truman Show.
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Post by pez1103 on Oct 29, 2007 8:07:52 GMT -5
This is something that I wrote that people can modify and use if they want to reach out to philanthropists or charitable foundations. .... Thousands of people throughout the country are suffering from devastating impact of a newly emerging infectious disease called Morgellons Disease. The symptoms include skin lesions that can be anything from minor to disfiguring in appearance, sensations of crawling and biting on and under the skin, and the appearance of fibers and granules coming out of the skin. According to statistics from the Morgellons Research Foundation, the majority (95%) of affected patients also report symptoms of disabling fatigue and self-described "brain fog" or problems with attention. Patients also report a high incidence (50%) of fibromyalgia, joint pain, and sleep disorders. Other symptoms include hair loss, decline in vision, neurological disorders and disintegration of teeth. Living with disease can be nightmare. For so many, each day brings more severe neurological deterioration and each day brings more disfiguring physical changes. And each day, more people contract this illness. Many patients become socially isolated, either because they have become disfigured by the disease or because they are concerned about spreading it. The suffering caused by this disease is enormous. Currently, there is no treatment and no cure. It is unknown whether the disease is contagious or how it is transmitted. Therefore, it may well be entering the nation’s blood supply. Some families have only one member who is affected, even after long exposure, while other families report multiple sufferers. In some instances, entire families are afflicted at the same time. Women with this disease may give birth to children with the disease. The CDC stated the following on August 1, 2007: "Morgellons is an unexplained and debilitating condition that has emerged as a public health concern. Recently, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has received an increased number of inquiries from the public, health care providers, public health officials, Congress, and the media regarding this condition. Persons who suffer from this condition report a range of coetaneous symptoms including crawling, biting and stinging sensations; granules, threads or black speck-like materials on or beneath the skin; and/or skin lesions (e.g., rashes or sores) and some sufferers also report systemic manifestations such as fatigue, mental confusion, short term memory loss, joint pain, and changes in vision. Moreover, some who suffer from this condition appear to have substantial morbidity and social dysfunction, which can include decreased work productivity or job loss, total disability, familial estrangement, divorce, loss of child custody, home abandonment, and suicidal ideation." The Morgellons Research Foundation (MRF) has been approached by new researchers who are interested in getting involved and trying to solve the puzzle of this disease, but the MRF lacks the funds which we can provide to them to do this important work. This is we desperately needs the support of private foundations like yours. Please read page 6 of the attached publication for a personal story of a young boy who struggled and lost his battle with this disease. www.publichealthalert.org/3rd%20issue%20Sept-Oct%202006.pdfPlease contact me if you have any questions. I appreciate your consideration of this very important matter. Sincerely, XXXX To learn more about Morgellons Disease, please visit www.morgellons.org
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Post by toni on Oct 29, 2007 8:30:48 GMT -5
Thanks Pez, that's an excellent letter.
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Post by sondra on Oct 29, 2007 21:30:19 GMT -5
Sorry Moe..... I understand which letter now.... as I live in California and I have kaiser..I would not trust them either...but I was wondering if Dr. Harvey could give the CDC some of his . findings.. but we will never know ...What I do know is that studies get published in medical journals all the time and they mean very Little unless there have been several with the same findings. There was a news article several weeks ago about a group of men and boys who died after swimming in a lake or a pond somewhere.. It didn't take the medical community long to find out they had caught an unknown parasite or amoeba .. We will have to die off inlarge numbers before there is any real investigations.... sorry guys I suffer severe brain fog
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Post by morgellonsmoe on Oct 29, 2007 22:07:40 GMT -5
Sondra ..I know no one like Dr Harvey or Mary personally . I am just like you are a fellow sufferer trying to get money in the hands of said people that are looking at this that is all no agendas here just want what we all do Answers
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Post by Niels on Oct 30, 2007 0:42:32 GMT -5
I think we ARE DYING OFF IN INCREASINGLY LARGE NUMBERS!!
For example there's been a whole slew of "MRSA" infections leading to death. The odd thing is that normally these infections happened in hospitals, oft w/ immune-compromised patiients, or post-surgery. Now they're claimng these have "jumped to the wild"
but they're not really going into any detail on how this could actually be happening. is there an epidemic of people getting cuts? or is there an epidemic of insects transmitting an infection to people?
and some of the news reports talk of that little african american boy in NY with a rash all over his back and legs. yeah, that could be MRSA, but doesn't it usually innoculate in one place. and eventually lead to sepsis for true MRSA. Whereas a "rash all over" either implies it couldn't be true MRSA because it would probably kill you (sepsis, kidney faiure, etc) well before it could spread out as a bunch of skin lesions.
In either case, I'm finding the sudden "MRSA" scare alarming, and I'm wondering if it's really MRSA, or if it's a parasite introducing MRSA into the patient. Or alternately, a parasite causing a rash with open lesions (Morgellons) which is then innoculated with MRSA in a public setting (school) through scratching.
In any case, mark my words, this MRSA thing is fishy and sounds like a partial coverup.
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Post by robertalouise26 on Oct 30, 2007 0:52:27 GMT -5
Dear Niels I think your last suggestion was right insects invading humans!!! I live in Auckland New Zealand and our biggest hospital in the country Auckland has for the las two months had this infection invading at least one quater of the patients. No way will you get me to go to any hospital in Auckland. I have badly infected ears from this "thing" and Doctor said today that if it didn't clear up I wil have to go to hospital NO WAY!!!!! and that is that!!!!. Thanks so much for your post. Love and best wishes. Roberta.
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Post by robertalouise26 on Oct 30, 2007 1:26:29 GMT -5
Dear Niels I think that you are right but I cann't realy comment on what happens in your country, but reading your post reminded me that about 3 to 4 weeks before this wretched itching started I got very very ill. It was Christmas Eve and had to helped to walk up the road to the Doctors well she sent me straight to the hospital without any explanation. Dear Lord I was sick. When the Doctors at the hospital examined me they said that I had kidney failure!!!!!! My kidneys were shutting down and they didn't know why. Had ultra sound and every test that they could think of and still didn't know what was causing the kidney failure. Well I thought I was dying, my husband thought I was dying my girlfriend thought I was dying. My daughter was in England and prepared to come home. I got my husband to tell her not to waste her time and money, if I was dying I would be dead before she got here. So why bother and waste her money. Well I was in limbo for three days and then the Doctors said that my kidneys were very slowly starting to work again. They had no anwser for the cause and affect. I was still quite sick. It took a month for my kidneys to start working properly and then I could go back to work. It was a horrible frightening experience because THE DOCTORS COULDNT GIVE ME AN ANWSER. sINCE YOU BROUGHT THE SUBJECT UP IT HAS MADE ME START THINKING THAT MAYBE MY BODY WAS OVER LOADED WITH THESE THINGS and the kidneys couldn't cope with them and if that is the case then I got it from one of my three dogd that I had at the time. Thanks you again for yur post. Very best wishes. Roberta.
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