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Post by ruth on Mar 13, 2008 10:31:49 GMT -5
"RUTH, Why are you so sick? That stage should have gone away by now. The zombie stage. Sounds like toooo many cures/Rx's in your body."
cyn, i continue to fill up with the white tracts, then new lesions.............for years. i have active times and less active times. i am very active right now. my face feels like a bee hive buzzing on. when i am active in my face and head........zzzzombie from the pressure of their swelling to spill their contents?
i haven't done any treatments since about august, and i am producing out of control.
i have always eaten organic, and vegan until the craving for grease has gotten me to eat small amt.'s of meat.
i have always done colon cleanse, liver cleanse, for years.
my immune system is obviously working as i get allergic responses and now have a cold.
my body recognizes this stuff as self.
my lower back, stomach and top of thighs are now filling in with the white tracts and subsequent lesions.
i have 200+ lesions on my body right now. they start as little red dots and start spilling out the particles.
i don't know why it continues this way. it reminds me of a parasitoid filling up a parasites body until there is nothing left.
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Post by gradysghost on Mar 13, 2008 10:38:37 GMT -5
From what I hear the "White Tracks" are the carbo-hydrate plastic our bodies are making. The opaline oxy is supposed to stop it, I started my 1st dose today.
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Post by felixwillford on Mar 13, 2008 11:57:53 GMT -5
I did it again last night.............................fell asleep listening to this.
I really want to hear it all.
I will try again. NOt that it is boring but watching C span book clubs is my "sleep remedy" and I guess I am programed to sleep.
How long is the program???
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Post by felixwillford on Mar 13, 2008 15:15:46 GMT -5
redpill8.blogspot.com/2008/01/morgellons-chemtrials-and.htmlThe article continued: "The study into Morgellons will start immediately, as Kaiser Permanente contacts Northern California patients who have reported symptoms of the mystery disease in the past 18 months. The research will be funded by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention." Later on in The Washington Post I read that the CDC is hoping to send the fibers collected from patients to the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology in Washington for analysis. Both the Chronicle's and the Post's coverage excluded the fact that many people, including many scientists, believe that there is a relationship between Morgellons, chemtrails and nanotechnology, and there does seem to be some evidence backing this up.For instance, according to Dr. Hildegarde Staninger, private lab tests show that the outer (Morgellons) fibers are composed of a high density polyethylene fiber (HDPE) which is used to manufacture fiber optics. And, as this is a compound not found in nature this could only be explained if in fact the fibers were man-made. She writes: "It was further determined that this material is used throughout the bio nanotechnology world as a compound to encapsulate a viral protein envelope, which is composed of a viron (1/150th times smaller than a virus) with DNA, RNA, RNAi (mutated RNA) or RNAsi linear or ring plasmids for specific functions. Dr. Staninger also describes the similarities of chemtrail samples which were taken from spots around the U.S. and Italy. Research into the samples that were found in San Giuliani Park (Italy) showed a direct relationship to a Texas sample, with over half being the same elements. These same elements were found in the Morgellon's patients samples. The results found show a comparison to the samples which came from three distinct locations California, USA, Texas, USA and Venice, Italy thousands of miles apart but contain 7 out of 13 of the same elements with SEM's illustrating similar structures. -- "Texas Chemtrail Samples Compared To Samples From Venice Italy," by Dr. Hildegarde Staninger You can see her other work on Morgellons and nanotechnology here "Far-Infared Radiant Heat (FIR RH) Type Remediation for Mold and Other Unique Diseases", and here: "Morgellons: A Nano-911 Foreign Invader" Backing up Dr. Staninger's theory that Morgellons is manmade is neurologist Dr. Edward L. Spencer MD, who spoke in 2006 to Berkeley City Council Members on behalf of the Community Environmental Advisory Commission (CEAC). He testified:"There now exists strong data indicating that this disorder is associated with nanotechnology, specifically nano machines in the form of nanofibers. The National Science Foundation (NSF) defines nanofibers as having at least one dimension of 100 nanometer (nm) or less....This fiber did not burn until it has been heated to 1700 degrees F. Compare that with hair, which is easily burned producing a characteristic odor and has a cellular structure. The fibers are shed regularly and some grow to long lengths indicating fiber production in the human body. Dr. Janovy has stated of this blue fiber, 'it has noeukaryotic cells, it has no cell membrane, it is not a parasite, it is not biological, it is a machine.'" -- "Infectious Man-Made Nano-Disease Spreading Globally!," by Ed Spencer, MD And, because three doctors will hold more weight than two, let's include the research of polymer chemist, Dr. R. Michael Castle, who has studied atmospheric polymers for years. In his research he has found that some of the fibers contain bioactive materials, which can cause "serious skin lesions and diseases when absorbed into the skin." He has identified microscopic polymers comprised of genetically-engineered fungal forms mutated with viruses. He says that trillions of fusarium (fungus)/virus mutated spores), which secrete a powerful mico-toxin, are part of the air we breathe. --"The Methodic Demise of Natural Earth: An Environmental Impact Overview," by R. Michael Castle If this is true, that chemtrials, Morgellons and genetically-engineered pathogens and/or nanotechnology are related, then that would have to mean some kind of government involvement as only the military, or government-approved contractors, would have the clearance and capability to spray large areas in our air space (not to mention large areas around the world). Could this explain the rash of deaths of microbiologists since 9/11? Were they cognizant of programs that others wanted to keep secret? See: "Author Theorizes 40 Microbiologists Killed Before Unleashing 'The Ultimate Epidemic," Free Press International Would it be unthinkable that our leaders could be that evil that they would knowingly experiment on humanity with manmade pathogens that could have the potential to kill thousands, if not millions of us? This is not out of the realm of plausibility as we already know that they have been spraying biological and chemical agents on unsuspecting populations throughout the U.S. for decades (See this TV news piece about secret programs by the military in which they contaminated 239 populated areas with biological agents, exposed during Senate hearings in 1977):
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Post by cyn on Mar 13, 2008 20:37:15 GMT -5
Kmarie,
Thanks for asking. I'm just paranoid about taking "just anything" cause everything I do, has a re-action. When I began using DSP to get it out of my nose, the fungus worked that much harder to close the passages, same thing with the eyes. Taking some ABX's causes more lesions on me. Now as far as a colon cleanse, my body is still growing those 15" fiber/fungus snakes. Will they close off the colon to keep the cleansing products from getting in? Or will it cause blockages? See, I just don't know which way to go. I recently became aware that the fungus that covers my entire body, is solidified in many places, not just my face.
I guess, I need a super strong cleanse that will break up anything, then again, I can't remain down for long, so I don't want one that makes you ill or takes what little energy I have away. You did say you had taken several cleanses, right?
Kmarie, I was told by the guy in Germany to take large amounts of zinc and magnesium to lessen the nerve and muscle damage. He found a product sold here in the U.S., that has the correct amounts. It is called ZMA, that stands for Zinc Monomethionine Aspartate. Remember, anything you take should be tripled, cause the disease gets most of it. So the quantities are zinc-20 mg. for women, magnesium-300 mg. and B6 - 7 mg. After taking this my shaking hands and muscle tremors stopped.
So you had mini-strokes? What was it caused by? Cause I was told we would have seizures when it damaged the brain enough. I too have the balance problem and sight loss. I figured the fungus in the ear canal was what caused the equilibrium problems?
You posted above where a scientist claimed that the fibers might be causing our lesions? Are you constantly outside or in a fiber contaminated environment? I don't know, I have never understood why some of us don't have many lesions, and some are covered, some don't have any!!!
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Post by felixwillford on Mar 13, 2008 21:12:53 GMT -5
CYN,
I never said this..... "You posted above where a scientist claimed that the fibers might be causing our lesions?" I don't know why some have lesions and others don't. I do have the NOSE problem, bloody nose and "unknown" things come out.
I have black specs and occasional lesions very very small or if I injure myself, then it takes longer to heal and I can tell I am not "NORMAL" anymore because I bleed differently, like a different kind of pattern.
I am not in a good mood today. I was suppose to get the results of a urine sample for a job and I JUST KNOW something is not right. I feel it.
I am afraid they found the fibers in my urine. The 1st drug test came back inconclusive and now this one is taking way too long for results and I am getting that SOMETHING IS WRONG feeling.
I guess I won't get that job either. I may as well jump off the bridge here. But I won't. I am scared. I dont even want to talk about it anymore. So sick of disappointment after disappointment!
later, kmarie
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Post by gradysghost on Mar 13, 2008 21:24:14 GMT -5
Kmarie, I doubt that that is the case. Hang in there, many are praying for you, including me. By the way, your sore feet and mini-strokes, me too, exactly, however, they are not strokes, what is happening is carbon monoxide builds up in your blood stream due to the Ps. Putida creating the plastic (see toni's pictures). Also, when good toxicology labs test our blood they find ammonia in our blood stream. Good things are ahead for you, you might not feel that way now, but they are.
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Post by felixwillford on Mar 14, 2008 18:13:45 GMT -5
I finally heard the whole thing and enema's and cleansing seem the way to go and eating OKRA???
I found the program interesting and they will have another one next week.
Hildy does seem bright and sincerely concerned.
She said it is NOT contageous??? Did I hear that right?
We are just toxic and attracting all these bad things, fungus, bugs, and the neuro she said was the most serious.
What about that getting in the esophogus?
I just don't know, I do believe cleansing has to be the best choice with this odd disease.
I'd like to get a FIR pad now.
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Post by robertalouise26 on Mar 14, 2008 18:50:45 GMT -5
Dearest Kmarie I do think that they are in the osephogus as when I drink fluids and some times solid food it comes right back out of me and I nearly choke!!! My daughter gets angry at me and says that I am drinking too fast but I am sure that, that is not the reason. I also get this horrible tickle in my throat. Much love and best wishes. Robbie
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Post by robertalouise26 on Mar 14, 2008 19:10:17 GMT -5
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Post by cyn on Mar 16, 2008 18:00:18 GMT -5
Kmarie,
Quote I never said this..... "You posted above where a scientist claimed that the fibers might be causing our lesions?"
The following was included in one of your post; And, because three doctors will hold more weight than two, let's include the research of polymer chemist, Dr. R. Michael Castle, who has studied atmospheric polymers for years. In his research he has found that some of the fibers contain bioactive materials, which can cause "serious skin lesions and diseases when absorbed into the skin." He has identified microscopic polymers comprised of genetically-engineered fungal forms mutated with viruses. He says that trillions of fusarium (fungus)/virus mutated spores), which secrete a powerful mico-toxin, are part of the air we breathe.
As I said, you were simply reporting what a scientist claimed.
Anyway, thanks for the original link on Staninger.
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Post by felixwillford on Mar 16, 2008 18:33:32 GMT -5
Cyn,
I am so sorry, I misread your post. I was so worried and still am since I have not heard back about that job after I submitted my urine 2x for them.
Now this Sunday MY job that I was suppose to get is in the paper again.
I was never told anything yet about my 2nd urine test and I called them Friday.
Cyn, please, please excuse me if I hurt or offended you, I never meant to be that way.
You are correct, I completely misread your post and I feel terrible about it. May I be forgiven?
Sincerely, Kmarie
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Post by robertalouise26 on Mar 16, 2008 18:48:31 GMT -5
Dearest Kmarie why not ring them up ask about the tests and are you still on their employment list. If not ask why. Cann't think of much more girl but it cann't hurt just trying it. Much much love and hugs. Robbie
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Post by felixwillford on Mar 16, 2008 18:58:45 GMT -5
Roberta,
Yes, I plan to ring them 1st thing tomorrow. It's Sunday evening here right now. What time is it for you in New Zealand?
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Post by gradysghost on Mar 16, 2008 19:37:31 GMT -5
Cyn, you said:
In his research he has found that some of the fibers contain bioactive materials, which can cause "serious skin lesions and diseases when absorbed into the skin." He has identified microscopic polymers comprised of genetically-engineered fungal forms mutated with viruses. He says that trillions of fusarium (fungus)/virus mutated spores), which secrete a powerful mico-toxin, are part of the air we breathe.
That sounds amazingly close to Dr. S' theory, and it most likely true.
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Post by robertalouise26 on Mar 16, 2008 20:28:40 GMT -5
Dearest Kmarie it is 2.30pm Monday afternoon over here. In three weeks we go back from daylight saving and go back an hour. Please let me know when you have rung up about that job. Much much love and all the very best wishes for the job. Much love. Robbie
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Post by cyn on Mar 17, 2008 1:11:11 GMT -5
Sorry, this question was suppose to go to RObERTALOUISEI read my comments over and over, and still do not understand your comment; Dearest Cyn WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? tHAT IT WON'T BELONG NOW?? I hope that i have read your post wrongly.What won't belong ? tHIS PART IS FOR RUTH I wanted to ask you if you take CoQ10? It is made to aid the heart, yet it will do wonders for brain fog. Or maybe you meant something else by "zombie"? I have taken it for a year now, started with 30 mg., then 60 mg, now its 100 mg daily. Looks like I need to up the dosage again, I can't even keep everyones' comments clear!!! Of course, not getting adequate sleep doesn't help either. I too have difficulty swallowing, so I tried chewing longer, that isn't it either. It's like the disease is blocking or coating all our passages, making them smaller and smaller until nothing but the fibers can get through.
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Post by robertalouise26 on Mar 17, 2008 1:36:05 GMT -5
Dearest Cyn I must have read your post wrongly. I thought that you said it won't be long. I am sorry I thought that you were thinking of dying and it worried me very much. So sorry for the mis understanding. Love and best wishes. Roberta.
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Post by cyn on Mar 17, 2008 2:00:41 GMT -5
I am so stupid from the damage to my brain, I could not even figure out what you were saying, and it seems real obvious NOW. belong instead of be long, geez???
Sorry Robertalouise, my fault entirely.
As several of us are, we are at that point, where if we don't wake up tomorrow, it will be okay.
I do not feel I am being pessimistic, just realistic. I do not believe they could still get this crap out of my brain and the rest of my head, let alone the organs.
I don't know exactly how others feel, but I am grateful for the life I have had, but I am ready. Doesn't mean I don't support all the others still seeking the treatment that will cure them. I do try to be supportive of others, don't I?
I don't mean to sadden others nor am I asking for a pitty party when making comments like that, it is just the way I feel. And I thought it was ok to say what we feel here? I see now that it doesn't help anyone to read it, so I will try to refrain from being negative. This is the only place I have to discuss what I'm going through though, and all of us have those down days where we just have to let it out.
Take care sweetheart!
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Post by freaky on Mar 17, 2008 4:11:16 GMT -5
Kmarie, you are just the cutest little thing, you look like you're 16. Just wanted to tell you something you may try for kicks, & right now it doesn't sound like you're kicking too much. I am really sorry you are having these specific problems. They are definitely scary. My husband, Mr. Bill, just had major surgery on his neck where they removed a couple of disks, one which had grown into his esophagus. After a lot of cutting, & chopping, they put in a metal piece to hold everything together, & sent him home the next day. Six weeks later he went in for his lower spine. They went in thru his back, & cut out part of 4 disks leaving them just flapping against the muscle. Unfortunately, they cut out a little too much, creep dr. This was indeed necessary, the dr. said he'll recover , but it's been 3 months of lots of pain, & agony. Last year he got a knee replacement. It's difficult to explain this because men don't always explain things well, but I'll try. This all made his good leg bad. He had intense tingling in his foot, maybe both feet. Basically the foot of the good leg though. The tingling is constant except when he lies down. (I think) Now the tingling is going up his leg to his knee. It's just a big painful mess, but yesterday he found an old pair of ugly Kroc (sp?) crok??? willy, yeah willy shoes, those rubber ones they have at she stores, grocery, etc. haha He said he put them on, & it was like intense needles going up his foot. But, being the MAN that he is, he withstood this pain for a few minutes, & it actually started feeling better, as though those little bumps massaged his foot. For the first time, at one point in the day, he forgot he had any pain, & didn't even notice it. Please excuse this thesis, but we're all aware by now, I have a deletion problem, & my long lengthy babble sometimes is suspenseful, don't ya think? I know this probably has nothing to do with your condition, so why did I stay up till 3:25 PM writing it? You're just a Darling, & I hate that you are going Thur this. It's a long shot for sure, but honey buns, it could be worth a try to see if it could help you. As stupid as it sounds, why not try it, & see if anything happens. Gez, it took me so long to write this, I forgot what exactly your problem is, but don't discount a possible stupid suggestion from a friend who loves, & respects you. Might help, & you will be a happy camper. Much love, freaky .......... This is too damn long. Sorry. PS> I can try to remember what I think is the best herb for any heart problems. It's an excellent preventative for most problems. Call me if I forget. It got a lot of publicity, it's patented, which means little, but I know it's excellent. Love, freaky
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