Post by grammavicki on Dec 13, 2005 3:12:54 GMT -5
You know what else can draw out the little buggers... calamine lotion... I add some tea tree oil and lavender. The first time I did it so many unidentifiable things came out...especially my feet... I almost got sick... I can't believe I actually have gotten used to the idea of having living things in me... eeeuuuuuuwwww! For sensitive areas like the face a good bentonite clay mask is effective, but kind of messy!
Post by specuelatin on Dec 16, 2005 3:52:58 GMT -5
Those ideas sound worth a go round Grammavicki, I wonder what it is about the lavender, some others mention it as an ingredient.
I don't think I am doing anything special, other things, yeah.
Have you got varmints living in the lesions? Things like Chris Mickelson is talking about and like pics many have posted in our photo gallery, and at lymephotos.com?
I can't say that prid will cure anything, but if you do have the varmints, after leaving the prid on a few hours, it can make them surface and remove easily. I have many things that will make them die, and can then remove, but most of the time that hurts. I notice when I use the prid, the varmint dies and is shoved up to the surface. No "ripping of a dog food bag" involved, that always hurts.
I am always trying some new thing. The main problem is we have to figure out what will kill this varmint totally. I am using the dermisil-S products and these have some strong benefits. A little expensive. The liquid is a mixture of tea tree, lemongrass and jojoba. You put these drops in the hot water and soak, (wash first, then soak).
The other products they sell in a package with this, (and lemongrass is a killer of these varmints), are a cream that contains volcanic ash, teatree oil, jojoba, sulfur. This also makes them surface, you apply after you bathe, works wonders.
These two products (the soak and the cream) have the property of being able to sink down into the skin, and this is where these varmints exist, not near the surface. The Dermisil people tell me that it may take months to kill some types of mites that can live on a human. If you know their lifecycle, it can help, this may be a mite, many miticides will kill this bug in the lesion. It can't be an ordinary scabies mite.
The last product that comes in the package is benzarid, and this is expensive for general cleaning, but I use it to spray my shoes, car seat, mattress, coat. You could use it on most clothes I believe if you can't launder them in hot water. You wouldn't want to pay to spray everything you own though! It has a residual action, so I figure several days in between spraying.
Before I soak in the oil combinations, I soak in the Kleen-free enzyme, I use a quarter of a cup in the tub. This help the crud covering the lesions "the callous" as Cliff calls it to soften up. I remove this as much as possible so the soaks can go deeper.
Still, what this is, is so creepy and so deep in our bodies that something more is needed.
This is what I am trying next, I just started diflucan, it cost me only $25.00 for 50 days. It is not to kill yeast/mold/fungus. It is effective against the Lyme disease because it kills some P450 structure of the cell wall. You can look at the article to see more, under Diflucan for Lyme on the Lyme board.
If so many of us have Lyme disease, then if we can get at the Lyme with this, the other aspects could clear up. I don't know if too many have gotten rid of the Lyme. I know jwf used extensive herbals and appears that he and his wife are cured from Lyme and morgellons. One of the herbs they use is Artemisin, though I may not spell this right. The Artemisin also is capable to disrupt the P450, I was reading this just last night. Many sufferers cannot afford some of these potent herbs. Hopefully the Diflucan can do the same thing. I got the generic, fluconazole, the generic was used in a study and 11 patients in the study are all successfully treated for Lyme by the generic. The study is also posted on the Diflucan for Lyme thread. Dr. Shardt's protocol starts with 200 mg of fluconazole for 50 days. So this is what I am doing.
Surprising about the P450, disrupted by either Artemisin or Diflucan and various people find these effective.
The Artemesin is probably a great investment as an antiparasitic, someone, maybe jwf posted that the Artemesin is sold in other countries not here! Here we get common wormwood, at like one-onehundredth of the strength and it is called Artemesia. no good!
This stuff kills the babesia protozoa too, and the diflucan may not. So that is another road.
The other thing that I am going to get tomorrow is from the compounding pharmacy. It is 5% Thiabendazole to apply topically to the lesions. My main concern is too kill off those circular things that grow on the edge of the lesion and under the skin, and all the larval components. Some are not circular some go in a straight line under the skin. Sometimes soaking in white vinegar can help break open the lines. I am hoping the thiabendazole will kill what appears to be possibly an anyclostoma brazilliense, and I am sorry about that spelling but it is a cat hookworm, that travels about 3/4" only. A short straight lump may contain this. They do not however go through the body, in the blood veins etc. I don't know if there is a way to get it without a script, if it works, I will post this information, and also look into how else a person may obtain it.
What caused a massive eruption in October(of what I think was) these damn things encysted in my legs from some years ago was taking Albendazole for (Zentel) for 30 days. Strange but this stuff came out again where previously (several years ago) I had gotten a lot of relief from the lesions by using tinactin powder spray on the skin. Now I think that some larva encysted in those locations at the time and the Zentel broke the cysts open.
This time I want this gone for good. Don't we all.
So, while the prid is helpful in removing varmints painlesly, especially if they have been partially poisoned by some other doses of stuff, gosh so many things to name!
Right now, the most important components of my main plan right now is the continuing with the enzyme and dermisil soaks, applying either dermisil sulfur based cream or the topical Thiabendazole as I see fit, and, taking the diflucan for lyme.
If you would like any other suggestions on stuff that kills varmints in the lesion, let me know. By the way, this is how I know it kills it, the thing is painfully attached and refuses to let go of the edge of the lesion, after applying certain products, the varmint will let go and can be removed to what appears like a whole varmint, head to tail. I do have some fibers on these varmints in clearish white, and also occassional other colors, some occasional fiber bundles, but if I have those real long threads some people find in their scalps, discoloring their skin, falling from their skin, etc. .. well they are on a spindle somewhere inside and I can only hope that rapunzel is in there, too, spinning them to gold.
"The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled." -Plutarch
Post by specuelatin on Dec 16, 2005 21:23:17 GMT -5
hmmm... just checked with Walmart on the price of fluconazole 200 mg., #50, this costs $160.00. so figure a pill is about $3.00.
I guess that is one medicine I get a special price on down at the ASU pharmacy, so, sorry about any confusion on the price, I was so excited that they said only $25.00!! I thought there was an answer to Lyme disease any uninsured person could afford, even if it took several rounds and there were several children.
Still, the study shows only 25 days of one 200 mg. tablet per day were needed to knock out the Lyme disease in those 11 patients.
And those 11 were all resistant to the antibiotic therapy.
"The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled." -Plutarch
To get granules out of pores, I use petroleum jelly. I put it all over my body, even on scalp, and then I leave it on for a few minutes then scrape it off (eww all kinds of gross stuff comes forth...mass exodus…hundreds), then shower w/tea tree oil soap. For me, this works better than borax. Only think is, the casings/granules keep coming out for a matter of hours, so they get all over the place...and that's not good. Vacuum and lint roller.
Alexia: It's very insulting to insinuate that I'm "just another morgellons nut" when you, yourself, have this disease as well. As I said, I'm glad you've never experienced this strange stuff, but I find you discredit sufferers more than anything else.
Mar 27, 2015 11:39:57 GMT -5
Alexia: You mock people who are truly suffering and who have truly SEEN and experienced strange things. Thankfully, I'm no where near as bad as some people are, but I would NEVER mock them just because something sounded odd to me.
Mar 27, 2015 11:42:07 GMT -5
Alexia: Maybe if so many people didn't discredit the strange things that some people experience, we could get to the bottom of this. Well, if you actually did some research you could see that some of these strange things are explained. But you'd never do that.
Mar 27, 2015 11:46:36 GMT -5
Alexia: I could post a link here that explains a lot of the strange stuff going on, but then I'd be accused of trying to "push my agenda" on people. While I don't know the exact cause, a lot of the aspects aren't as crazy as they sound when explained.
Mar 27, 2015 11:50:27 GMT -5
Alexia: This site is now just what YOU think. But you go ahead and keep on thinking that you're doing some kind of grand service to morgellons sufferers. All I've seen is mocking, being rude, and being obsessed with STDs. Take care everyone and try to stay healthy
Mar 27, 2015 11:55:09 GMT -5
Fibroid Mary: geez.. it seems due to the size of this shout box that I missed out on all the fun of BO's mocking of someone and discussion of his wife's itchy crotch... hmm.. maybe it's a GOOD thing that the shout box is so small..
Mar 27, 2015 15:37:41 GMT -5
Jim Dandy: Welcome to todays (One Flew Over The Coo Coos Nest) It seems like two Coo Coo, more than one KOOK, anyway let the bats and ghosts out of the belfry and lets hunker down for some GREAT BIG HELPING OF NON RIDICULUS brain storming with Norman
Mar 27, 2015 16:28:10 GMT -5
Jim Dandy: I am known as Jim Dandy to many a lass and have been often (ONTHE OTHER SIDE and on the bottom but never on the wild side, nope too old fashioned for that, A REAL MAN, no Twinkie ballerina round here,
Mar 27, 2015 16:31:45 GMT -5
Jim Dandy: Did ya ever notice, STRANGE PEOPLE always notice the strangest things, they may be oblivious to us other normal like people but them strange ones can feel a thing 40 miles away and know what that thing is doing, no sheet, its exactly correct, they know B-
Mar 27, 2015 16:35:10 GMT -5
Jim Dandy: You know, one of you girls that is the same girl also, Mary and Alexia, can you both come out of that one head together, just wondering, you both need to be clad in something, a garb of some sort, nakid ghosts even scare me
Mar 27, 2015 16:38:39 GMT -5
Jim Dandy: Well, Jim Dandy signing off, can't let no moss grow under my Morgellons, who is this fella got a wife with a itchy groin, if I know who she is I would stay away from that groin, same as if I find out where I am gonna die I will stay away from there too.
Mar 27, 2015 16:42:51 GMT -5
Jim Dandy: I really hope them two girls locked in one ain't some kinda tranny or somtin like this, you ain't that Genner fella are ya. Hope not, ya know he got in a accident, no cell phone use, so I imagine he was a lookin down at his new cooter
Mar 27, 2015 16:46:19 GMT -5
Fibroid Mary: Hi Jim.. you sound like you have a great sense of humor.. but your perception is a bit off... as Alexa and I are not the same individual.. and I don't think I'm schitzo.. but I'm not certain.. my other personality might be.. but I'm not Alexa
Mar 27, 2015 19:13:10 GMT -5
Fibroid Mary: would a schitzo even know that they were schitzo? hmm sigh.. 1 more wonder 2 add 2 my ever growing list of wonders 2 solve before I leave here.so much 2 learn & not enough time, well maybe there is, longevity runs in family if indeed they are my family :-
Mar 27, 2015 19:22:09 GMT -5
Jim Dandy: Well little filly, I guess your a filly you didn't say anything about the tranny thing, you go and look in the mirror now, smile big and see if that smile looks scary, if it is hard to smile or hurts your crazy, long and short of it.
Mar 27, 2015 22:48:32 GMT -5
Fibroid Mary: nope not a tranny, nor a scary smiler.. but scary is in the eye of the beholder so I'm not sure how that determines sanity.. also at this point of my life, I feel more like an old grey mare than a filly.. I just ain't what I used to be.. giggles..
Mar 28, 2015 7:04:43 GMT -5
Alexia: I'd tell you to go f*ck yourself, but I wouldn't want you to catch another STD Anyway, keep researching everyone and find out what works best for you. And Mary, hang in there
Mar 28, 2015 9:09:33 GMT -5
Fibroid Mary: Thanks Alexia.. and my apologies for misspelling your name in my previous post.. Have a great weekend everyone!!
Mar 28, 2015 11:27:26 GMT -5
Jim Dandy: How rough you are Alexia like you have never cradled it up inside you on that lonely night from the stranger guy in the bar, who knows it may have been me. Remember me, who's your daddy? That would totally explain how you got the STD, LOL.
Mar 28, 2015 12:26:56 GMT -5
Jim Dandy: Jim Dandy to the recue, Jim Dandy to the rescue, Jim Dandy to the recue, go Jim Dandy, go Jim Dandy. First thing I am going to teach our little virgin, Alexia, Mary, is how to express herself without cursing
Mar 28, 2015 12:38:56 GMT -5