Post by grammavicki on Dec 13, 2005 3:12:54 GMT -5
You know what else can draw out the little buggers... calamine lotion... I add some tea tree oil and lavender. The first time I did it so many unidentifiable things came out...especially my feet... I almost got sick... I can't believe I actually have gotten used to the idea of having living things in me... eeeuuuuuuwwww! For sensitive areas like the face a good bentonite clay mask is effective, but kind of messy!
Post by specuelatin on Dec 16, 2005 3:52:58 GMT -5
Those ideas sound worth a go round Grammavicki, I wonder what it is about the lavender, some others mention it as an ingredient.
I don't think I am doing anything special, other things, yeah.
Have you got varmints living in the lesions? Things like Chris Mickelson is talking about and like pics many have posted in our photo gallery, and at lymephotos.com?
I can't say that prid will cure anything, but if you do have the varmints, after leaving the prid on a few hours, it can make them surface and remove easily. I have many things that will make them die, and can then remove, but most of the time that hurts. I notice when I use the prid, the varmint dies and is shoved up to the surface. No "ripping of a dog food bag" involved, that always hurts.
I am always trying some new thing. The main problem is we have to figure out what will kill this varmint totally. I am using the dermisil-S products and these have some strong benefits. A little expensive. The liquid is a mixture of tea tree, lemongrass and jojoba. You put these drops in the hot water and soak, (wash first, then soak).
The other products they sell in a package with this, (and lemongrass is a killer of these varmints), are a cream that contains volcanic ash, teatree oil, jojoba, sulfur. This also makes them surface, you apply after you bathe, works wonders.
These two products (the soak and the cream) have the property of being able to sink down into the skin, and this is where these varmints exist, not near the surface. The Dermisil people tell me that it may take months to kill some types of mites that can live on a human. If you know their lifecycle, it can help, this may be a mite, many miticides will kill this bug in the lesion. It can't be an ordinary scabies mite.
The last product that comes in the package is benzarid, and this is expensive for general cleaning, but I use it to spray my shoes, car seat, mattress, coat. You could use it on most clothes I believe if you can't launder them in hot water. You wouldn't want to pay to spray everything you own though! It has a residual action, so I figure several days in between spraying.
Before I soak in the oil combinations, I soak in the Kleen-free enzyme, I use a quarter of a cup in the tub. This help the crud covering the lesions "the callous" as Cliff calls it to soften up. I remove this as much as possible so the soaks can go deeper.
Still, what this is, is so creepy and so deep in our bodies that something more is needed.
This is what I am trying next, I just started diflucan, it cost me only $25.00 for 50 days. It is not to kill yeast/mold/fungus. It is effective against the Lyme disease because it kills some P450 structure of the cell wall. You can look at the article to see more, under Diflucan for Lyme on the Lyme board.
If so many of us have Lyme disease, then if we can get at the Lyme with this, the other aspects could clear up. I don't know if too many have gotten rid of the Lyme. I know jwf used extensive herbals and appears that he and his wife are cured from Lyme and morgellons. One of the herbs they use is Artemisin, though I may not spell this right. The Artemisin also is capable to disrupt the P450, I was reading this just last night. Many sufferers cannot afford some of these potent herbs. Hopefully the Diflucan can do the same thing. I got the generic, fluconazole, the generic was used in a study and 11 patients in the study are all successfully treated for Lyme by the generic. The study is also posted on the Diflucan for Lyme thread. Dr. Shardt's protocol starts with 200 mg of fluconazole for 50 days. So this is what I am doing.
Surprising about the P450, disrupted by either Artemisin or Diflucan and various people find these effective.
The Artemesin is probably a great investment as an antiparasitic, someone, maybe jwf posted that the Artemesin is sold in other countries not here! Here we get common wormwood, at like one-onehundredth of the strength and it is called Artemesia. no good!
This stuff kills the babesia protozoa too, and the diflucan may not. So that is another road.
The other thing that I am going to get tomorrow is from the compounding pharmacy. It is 5% Thiabendazole to apply topically to the lesions. My main concern is too kill off those circular things that grow on the edge of the lesion and under the skin, and all the larval components. Some are not circular some go in a straight line under the skin. Sometimes soaking in white vinegar can help break open the lines. I am hoping the thiabendazole will kill what appears to be possibly an anyclostoma brazilliense, and I am sorry about that spelling but it is a cat hookworm, that travels about 3/4" only. A short straight lump may contain this. They do not however go through the body, in the blood veins etc. I don't know if there is a way to get it without a script, if it works, I will post this information, and also look into how else a person may obtain it.
What caused a massive eruption in October(of what I think was) these damn things encysted in my legs from some years ago was taking Albendazole for (Zentel) for 30 days. Strange but this stuff came out again where previously (several years ago) I had gotten a lot of relief from the lesions by using tinactin powder spray on the skin. Now I think that some larva encysted in those locations at the time and the Zentel broke the cysts open.
This time I want this gone for good. Don't we all.
So, while the prid is helpful in removing varmints painlesly, especially if they have been partially poisoned by some other doses of stuff, gosh so many things to name!
Right now, the most important components of my main plan right now is the continuing with the enzyme and dermisil soaks, applying either dermisil sulfur based cream or the topical Thiabendazole as I see fit, and, taking the diflucan for lyme.
If you would like any other suggestions on stuff that kills varmints in the lesion, let me know. By the way, this is how I know it kills it, the thing is painfully attached and refuses to let go of the edge of the lesion, after applying certain products, the varmint will let go and can be removed to what appears like a whole varmint, head to tail. I do have some fibers on these varmints in clearish white, and also occassional other colors, some occasional fiber bundles, but if I have those real long threads some people find in their scalps, discoloring their skin, falling from their skin, etc. .. well they are on a spindle somewhere inside and I can only hope that rapunzel is in there, too, spinning them to gold.
"The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled." -Plutarch
Post by specuelatin on Dec 16, 2005 21:23:17 GMT -5
hmmm... just checked with Walmart on the price of fluconazole 200 mg., #50, this costs $160.00. so figure a pill is about $3.00.
I guess that is one medicine I get a special price on down at the ASU pharmacy, so, sorry about any confusion on the price, I was so excited that they said only $25.00!! I thought there was an answer to Lyme disease any uninsured person could afford, even if it took several rounds and there were several children.
Still, the study shows only 25 days of one 200 mg. tablet per day were needed to knock out the Lyme disease in those 11 patients.
And those 11 were all resistant to the antibiotic therapy.
"The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled." -Plutarch
To get granules out of pores, I use petroleum jelly. I put it all over my body, even on scalp, and then I leave it on for a few minutes then scrape it off (eww all kinds of gross stuff comes forth...mass exodus…hundreds), then shower w/tea tree oil soap. For me, this works better than borax. Only think is, the casings/granules keep coming out for a matter of hours, so they get all over the place...and that's not good. Vacuum and lint roller.
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Jul 22, 2014 12:40:21 GMT -5
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Jul 22, 2014 18:11:16 GMT -5
Quasamoto: stop belly aching, grow up, all of us are in this mud hole ya see, and there is one guy above us, ya see, he is the big boss, ya see, all of a sudden one of us in the mud hole says, WHAT MAKES HIM SO SPECIAL THAT HE IS UP THERE AND WE ARE IN THIS MUD HOLE?
Jul 22, 2014 18:18:21 GMT -5
Quasamoto: I DO NOT KNOW SAYS ONE OF US, WHY DON'T YOU ASK HIM, SO TURBANWIS CLIBS UP OUT OF THE HOLE AND ASKS, WHY ARE WE IN THE MUD HOLE AND YOUR OUT HERE, THE BIG BOSS TELLS TURBAN TO PICK UP A SHOVEL, THE BOSS PUTS HIS HAND ON THE TREE AND SAYS HIT MY HAND!!
Jul 22, 2014 18:21:31 GMT -5
Quasamoto: wELL TURBAN IS PLEASED TO BASH THE BIG BOSS HAND, SO HE HAULS OFF AND LETS HIM HAVE IT, WELL JUST BEFORE THE SHOVEL HITS BIG BOSS HAND HE PULLS HIS HAND AWAY FROM THE TREE AND TURBANS SHOVEL HITS THE TREE HURTING THE HECK OUT OF HIS OWN HANDS.
Jul 22, 2014 18:24:23 GMT -5
Quasamoto: SO TURBAN MAN JUMPS BACK DOWN IN THE HOLE WITH US IN THE MUD AND WE ASK, WHAT DID HE SAY, TURBAN HANDS ME A SHOVEL PUTS HIS HAND OVER HIS FACE AND SAYS, HIT MY HAND!!!
Jul 22, 2014 18:26:59 GMT -5
Quasamoto: JUST SEEMS SOME PEOPLES SMART AIN'T NOT THE SAME AS OTHER PEOPLES SMART. that's WHY WE ARE IN THIS MUD HOLE SEE ITS PAINFUL BUT YOU GOT A CHOICE YOU CAN LAUGH OR CRY. I KNOW THE POLITICALLY CORRECT BUNCH IS GONNA BE BLUBBERIN, THEY JUST CAN NOT FACE REALIT
Jul 22, 2014 18:36:31 GMT -5
Jul 22, 2014 18:37:34 GMT -5
Kitty2014: Quasamoto, if you wanna chat sometime, instead of spielin' your frightenin' (but true and comical!) dialect, then, you know where I am! In the meantime, carry on prayin'! Lol!
Jul 22, 2014 19:29:24 GMT -5
Kitty2014: Hey, where did all that just come from? I'll read it if it lets me scroll up!
Jul 22, 2014 19:30:39 GMT -5
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Jul 22, 2014 20:10:41 GMT -5
Kitty2014: So, apart from directin' him to sites with info, which anyone can access, he wouldn't have accomplished anythin'! ...... Makes ya sick, doesn't it, if that's their true purpose!? If it isn't bad enough that we're sufferin' to be duped more!!!
Jul 22, 2014 20:14:15 GMT -5
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Jul 22, 2014 20:19:17 GMT -5
Kitty2014: At least able to log on and go on threads! I have to say, I like your style and when I'm not tryin' to be Mother Theresa, I'm comical too; but not to your standards, of course! It mostly involves swearin'! Lol! Anyway, around for a while so I'll check back
Jul 22, 2014 20:24:16 GMT -5
SANENoBugonme, : The problem with these people, they have said bugs are their problems for so long, that they can not admit the fact that the itching is not caused by inset or bug infestation, there are parasites that can not be seen without a electron microscope,
Jul 24, 2014 14:26:27 GMT -5
SANENoBugonme, : These are PRIONS and Virus, look up the word parasite, you will see it does not have to be a insect, http://www.sciences360.com/index.php/the-smallest-parasites-in-the-world-7149/
Jul 24, 2014 14:27:47 GMT -5
SANENoBugonme, : copy and paste the url into your search box. I am more inclined to imagine this may be connected to PRION disease as they have found this issue in people with Alzheimers, if you do some searching you will find a link, still the jury is out, who knows.
Jul 24, 2014 14:33:36 GMT -5
SaneNobugonme: Here is a little wake up call, WHY DO ALZHEIMER victims scratch themselves BLOODY. http://www.alzcompend.info/?p=233 or do the search yourself, itching Alzheimer's this disease is more than people imagine.
Jul 24, 2014 18:23:04 GMT -5
SaneNobugonme: Remember this, why are people that are insane called BUGGY, why are insane institutions called THE BUG HOUSE, do you imagine that's all that insane people can imagine is bugs, REALLY, I am ashamed of your ability to deduce.
Jul 24, 2014 19:08:59 GMT -5
SaneNobugonme: Their minds are gone because of disease, they scratch because they have the itching disease, duh!!
Jul 24, 2014 19:14:45 GMT -5