Post by grammavicki on Dec 13, 2005 3:12:54 GMT -5
You know what else can draw out the little buggers... calamine lotion... I add some tea tree oil and lavender. The first time I did it so many unidentifiable things came out...especially my feet... I almost got sick... I can't believe I actually have gotten used to the idea of having living things in me... eeeuuuuuuwwww! For sensitive areas like the face a good bentonite clay mask is effective, but kind of messy!
Post by specuelatin on Dec 16, 2005 3:52:58 GMT -5
Those ideas sound worth a go round Grammavicki, I wonder what it is about the lavender, some others mention it as an ingredient.
I don't think I am doing anything special, other things, yeah.
Have you got varmints living in the lesions? Things like Chris Mickelson is talking about and like pics many have posted in our photo gallery, and at lymephotos.com?
I can't say that prid will cure anything, but if you do have the varmints, after leaving the prid on a few hours, it can make them surface and remove easily. I have many things that will make them die, and can then remove, but most of the time that hurts. I notice when I use the prid, the varmint dies and is shoved up to the surface. No "ripping of a dog food bag" involved, that always hurts.
I am always trying some new thing. The main problem is we have to figure out what will kill this varmint totally. I am using the dermisil-S products and these have some strong benefits. A little expensive. The liquid is a mixture of tea tree, lemongrass and jojoba. You put these drops in the hot water and soak, (wash first, then soak).
The other products they sell in a package with this, (and lemongrass is a killer of these varmints), are a cream that contains volcanic ash, teatree oil, jojoba, sulfur. This also makes them surface, you apply after you bathe, works wonders.
These two products (the soak and the cream) have the property of being able to sink down into the skin, and this is where these varmints exist, not near the surface. The Dermisil people tell me that it may take months to kill some types of mites that can live on a human. If you know their lifecycle, it can help, this may be a mite, many miticides will kill this bug in the lesion. It can't be an ordinary scabies mite.
The last product that comes in the package is benzarid, and this is expensive for general cleaning, but I use it to spray my shoes, car seat, mattress, coat. You could use it on most clothes I believe if you can't launder them in hot water. You wouldn't want to pay to spray everything you own though! It has a residual action, so I figure several days in between spraying.
Before I soak in the oil combinations, I soak in the Kleen-free enzyme, I use a quarter of a cup in the tub. This help the crud covering the lesions "the callous" as Cliff calls it to soften up. I remove this as much as possible so the soaks can go deeper.
Still, what this is, is so creepy and so deep in our bodies that something more is needed.
This is what I am trying next, I just started diflucan, it cost me only $25.00 for 50 days. It is not to kill yeast/mold/fungus. It is effective against the Lyme disease because it kills some P450 structure of the cell wall. You can look at the article to see more, under Diflucan for Lyme on the Lyme board.
If so many of us have Lyme disease, then if we can get at the Lyme with this, the other aspects could clear up. I don't know if too many have gotten rid of the Lyme. I know jwf used extensive herbals and appears that he and his wife are cured from Lyme and morgellons. One of the herbs they use is Artemisin, though I may not spell this right. The Artemisin also is capable to disrupt the P450, I was reading this just last night. Many sufferers cannot afford some of these potent herbs. Hopefully the Diflucan can do the same thing. I got the generic, fluconazole, the generic was used in a study and 11 patients in the study are all successfully treated for Lyme by the generic. The study is also posted on the Diflucan for Lyme thread. Dr. Shardt's protocol starts with 200 mg of fluconazole for 50 days. So this is what I am doing.
Surprising about the P450, disrupted by either Artemisin or Diflucan and various people find these effective.
The Artemesin is probably a great investment as an antiparasitic, someone, maybe jwf posted that the Artemesin is sold in other countries not here! Here we get common wormwood, at like one-onehundredth of the strength and it is called Artemesia. no good!
This stuff kills the babesia protozoa too, and the diflucan may not. So that is another road.
The other thing that I am going to get tomorrow is from the compounding pharmacy. It is 5% Thiabendazole to apply topically to the lesions. My main concern is too kill off those circular things that grow on the edge of the lesion and under the skin, and all the larval components. Some are not circular some go in a straight line under the skin. Sometimes soaking in white vinegar can help break open the lines. I am hoping the thiabendazole will kill what appears to be possibly an anyclostoma brazilliense, and I am sorry about that spelling but it is a cat hookworm, that travels about 3/4" only. A short straight lump may contain this. They do not however go through the body, in the blood veins etc. I don't know if there is a way to get it without a script, if it works, I will post this information, and also look into how else a person may obtain it.
What caused a massive eruption in October(of what I think was) these damn things encysted in my legs from some years ago was taking Albendazole for (Zentel) for 30 days. Strange but this stuff came out again where previously (several years ago) I had gotten a lot of relief from the lesions by using tinactin powder spray on the skin. Now I think that some larva encysted in those locations at the time and the Zentel broke the cysts open.
This time I want this gone for good. Don't we all.
So, while the prid is helpful in removing varmints painlesly, especially if they have been partially poisoned by some other doses of stuff, gosh so many things to name!
Right now, the most important components of my main plan right now is the continuing with the enzyme and dermisil soaks, applying either dermisil sulfur based cream or the topical Thiabendazole as I see fit, and, taking the diflucan for lyme.
If you would like any other suggestions on stuff that kills varmints in the lesion, let me know. By the way, this is how I know it kills it, the thing is painfully attached and refuses to let go of the edge of the lesion, after applying certain products, the varmint will let go and can be removed to what appears like a whole varmint, head to tail. I do have some fibers on these varmints in clearish white, and also occassional other colors, some occasional fiber bundles, but if I have those real long threads some people find in their scalps, discoloring their skin, falling from their skin, etc. .. well they are on a spindle somewhere inside and I can only hope that rapunzel is in there, too, spinning them to gold.
"The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled." -Plutarch
Post by specuelatin on Dec 16, 2005 21:23:17 GMT -5
hmmm... just checked with Walmart on the price of fluconazole 200 mg., #50, this costs $160.00. so figure a pill is about $3.00.
I guess that is one medicine I get a special price on down at the ASU pharmacy, so, sorry about any confusion on the price, I was so excited that they said only $25.00!! I thought there was an answer to Lyme disease any uninsured person could afford, even if it took several rounds and there were several children.
Still, the study shows only 25 days of one 200 mg. tablet per day were needed to knock out the Lyme disease in those 11 patients.
And those 11 were all resistant to the antibiotic therapy.
"The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled." -Plutarch
To get granules out of pores, I use petroleum jelly. I put it all over my body, even on scalp, and then I leave it on for a few minutes then scrape it off (eww all kinds of gross stuff comes forth...mass exodus…hundreds), then shower w/tea tree oil soap. For me, this works better than borax. Only think is, the casings/granules keep coming out for a matter of hours, so they get all over the place...and that's not good. Vacuum and lint roller.
ddenialofservice: So that would mean that whatever is causing problems is able to somehow camouflage itself by being able to copy or control our normal cells in some infective manner without traces or that there is no infection at all and the sickness is in ourselves.
Mar 1, 2015 12:36:17 GMT -5
ddenialofservice: If its some malfunction on cellular level in our own body then that would be able to cause problems that might be quite similar to those of an infection without ever showing any visual signs that are not anything different then your own cells so
Mar 1, 2015 12:53:56 GMT -5
ddenialofservice: thats all a doctor would find. same goes for us , we look for a non excisting infection and therefor expect we should find certain clues and are totally blind to slow and gradually changes that occur at skin level because we are failing to see any clear
Mar 1, 2015 13:07:55 GMT -5
ddenialofservice: signs of irritation/inflammation that is common with infection. I also feel that this illness is too controlled to be caused by some infective pathogen. Ive never seen a change in the speed it progresses while infections are only controlled by the speed
Mar 1, 2015 13:27:39 GMT -5
ddenialofservice: its able to overrule the bodys defencesystem. It rapidly progresses at any given chance while ive never experienced my illness reacting in such a manner when multiple instances of severely weakend immune system have taken place in the past.
Mar 1, 2015 13:36:45 GMT -5
ddenialofservice: my scalp is also a good example. When the disease progressed i almost never felt any acute discomfort like itching/pricking/ingrown hairs/bumps etc for me to even notice any. But i did feel a very slowly progressing pressure on my head and had the feeling
Mar 1, 2015 13:53:40 GMT -5
ddenialofservice: that certain swellings were abnormal and continiously growing and making me continiously dizzy and cauing me to experience slight coordination problems that were just enough to cause a slight disbalance once every 5 minutes or so that seemed to have a
Mar 1, 2015 14:10:09 GMT -5
Baraka Obam: If this is not a coverup, where are the words of the people the CDC examined,I never heard a peep anywhere online, the fibers that are in our blood, urine, feces, growing out of us can not be seen and are said to be textile, you eat a carpet lately
Mar 1, 2015 15:00:04 GMT -5
Baraka Obam: MENTALLY INCAPABLE? the most prolific and basic issues of our disease, shared by many disease are invisible to them and we are labeled insane, the only explanation for your opinion, holding cell phone too close to brain
Mar 1, 2015 15:03:30 GMT -5
Baraka Obam: A symptom like massive itching can easily be caused by herpes and many other disease but if you go to a doctor today and you say you have itching the doctors JUMP to a conclusion that your INSANE and they are not physiatrists, funny.
Mar 1, 2015 15:16:26 GMT -5
Baraka Obam: WHO TOLD THESE DOCTORS ALL CASES OF ITCHING IS INSANITY, COME ON OPINION PERSON, WHO MADE IT QUITE CLEAR THAT ITCHING IS CRAZY, MASSIVE ITCHING IS A HUGE INDICATOR OF DISEASE, SKIN ISSUES ARE A INDICATOR OF INTERNAL DISTRESS, NOT JUST A SKIN PROBLEM.
Mar 1, 2015 15:24:19 GMT -5
ddenialofservice: rather dramatic and quick effect on my confidence as i had to readapt my coordination every couple of minutes. But when my illness holds still there doesnt seem to happen anything on my scalp but if im actually healing all hell breaks loose.
Mar 1, 2015 19:23:22 GMT -5
ddenialofservice: yes but its not likely to be an infection
Mar 1, 2015 19:24:18 GMT -5
ddenialofservice: well its likely to cause some coinfection at some point
Mar 1, 2015 19:26:10 GMT -5
ddenialofservice: but doctors that have made the diagnose of folliculitues on my scalp are just partly correct
Mar 1, 2015 19:30:37 GMT -5
ddenialofservice: because there is not happening anything on my scalp untill there is activity in my lesion on my leg. Only then there are swellings that are getting smaller wich in there turn seem to have been holding parts of you hair hidden in them
Mar 1, 2015 19:36:21 GMT -5
ddenialofservice: its more a case of overgrown hair then ingrown hair
Mar 1, 2015 19:37:26 GMT -5
ddenialofservice: but if there would not be any movement in my lesion it will also not look like there is any infection or something like that going on
Mar 1, 2015 19:40:04 GMT -5
ddenialofservice: The only thing that i feel is that im debating if certain bumps and shapes feel like they shouldnt be there but for the rest everything seems to look like it should
Mar 1, 2015 19:44:57 GMT -5
ddenialofservice: i went to the docter also friday.. went there for my ears. had some young girl doctor as substitude so didnt want to make a too big deal about it to her but i had her have a look at my lesion. its funny that her answer did not exclude my own beliefs at all
Mar 1, 2015 19:54:39 GMT -5