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Post by JulieinHawaii on Mar 24, 2006 3:18:32 GMT -5
Topical Cleanse is all you need to buy, do not mix this with soaps, shampoos or anything but water. Use as directed exactly ! This is like no other product any of us have used. The stories will sound like we wrote them but we didn't . I had all the results in each story before the first bottle was finished. We will be posting the details of our progress and here to answer questions. Aloha, Julie eco-vie.com/ecovie/ev_top_c.htmlEcoVie Topical Cleanse is a proprietary blend of macro and micro nutrients, amino acids, enzymes, proteins, vitamins and naturally occurring beneficial microbes formulated to control a wide range of parasites and bacteria. EcoVie Topical Cleanse can be used on any topical outbreak of the skin that is caused by fungus & bacteria. It quickly calms and soothes the affected areas, suppresses harmful bacteria which may cause skin disease, promotes rapid recovery of damaged skin and protects the affected dermal region from outside bacteria. EcoVie Topical Cleanse is manufactured through a fermentation process using high quality food grade materials and extracts of organic origin. It does not to contain harmful chemicals of any kind. EcoVie Topical Cleanse can be used safely on cuts, bruises, lesions and burns to suppress bacteria and accelerate the healing process. USAGE Spritz: Mix 20cc /1 cup warm (not hot) water - spritz affected area as required. AIR DRY - DO NOT WIPE OFF Soak: Mix one eight (1/8) cup / 4 to 5 inches warm (not hot) bath water. Soak for twenty minute intervals as required. AIR DRY - DO NOT WIPE OFF 1 Litre (33.8 oz.) Concentrate 29.95 How to Reach Us Tel: 1-403-854-3617 / 1-403-854-2005 (9 am - 5 pm MST Weekdays) Fax: 1-403-854-4186 Email: marketing@ecochem.com Eco-Vie A Div of EcoChem Inc. Box 1388 Hanna, Alberta Canada T0J 1P0 This information is not intended for self-diagnosis or as a substitute for consultation with a MEDICAL PRACTITIONER. Unless otherwise indicated, the information offered in this web site has not been evaluated by the FDA or Health Canada.
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Post by JulieinHawaii on Mar 24, 2006 5:59:00 GMT -5
These seem to be the natural enemy of Morgellons,
naturally occurring beneficial microbes
I've been waiting since 2000 for these microbes to be put in a form humans can use. Until recently they were only used to keep diseases out of soils and plants. Using something that works for soil and plants isn't a far stretch for a morgie !
I started using this along with a women here in Hawaii who had lesions on her legs so bad it looked like she had no skin from her knee to here thigh. In just 2 weeks the lesions were closed and dryed up from the inside out.
This is remarkable healing !
Julie
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Post by Tick Tock hear the clock on Mar 24, 2006 9:25:49 GMT -5
Julie, you are well-intentioned and I appreciate that, but EcoVie is nothing new, and contrary to what you posted, those written comments were written by people like us who have identical symptoms and frustrations.
I know nothing about their cleaning products, but do remember reading about EcoVie at NUSPA several years ago. There were a few people with our skin disease who bought an EcoVie product and took it internally
Clearly, the EcoVie people like many other individuals and corporations, continue to hope to profit from our misery and desperation.
Later today I'll check NUSPA archives and see if those postings are still available.
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Post by BenAround on Mar 24, 2006 9:53:50 GMT -5
Joanna was pushing it on one of the new, old Comfort Zone sites years before it was on /////. He||, it could be NEW AND IMPROVED; kills everything cept your mother-in-law..... The Block
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Post by Guest on Mar 24, 2006 12:41:58 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity, what island, Julie?
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Post by Carrie♥ on Mar 24, 2006 13:15:25 GMT -5
Julie, do you have Morgellons?
I was just curious as to your internal symptoms as well as physical. I don't intend to sound disrespectful, but must satisfy the curiosity because your post sounded a little like a commercial. Thanks.
Or, are you a rep? "This information is not intended for self-diagnosis or as a substitute for consultation with a MEDICAL PRACTITIONER. Unless otherwise indicated, the information offered in this web site has not been evaluated by the FDA or Health Canada. "
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Post by JulieinHawaii on Mar 24, 2006 13:48:49 GMT -5
I am a MORGIE! Kerry and Pattie can confirm that.
Ecovie used properly can work I know because I am using and have been for a month. My energy level is higher than it was before I got Morgs. My hand was near useless due to the saturation of biofilm through out every joint in every finger. Biofilm is drying up and coming out ready to shatter! The death grip is lifting off me and working it's way out head to toe!
Results this fast this clear can't be icnored!
If this product works for me it will work for anyone!
I live on Oahu.
I can show you the other Hawaii women using Ecovie for her lesions that are about as bad as I have ever seen.. Gone now with nice pink skin. Need her permission to post the pics.
People need to read the site and decide for themselfs.
Many people don't know of it and they deserve the chance, were dying of this ya know, if there is anything that can slow it down this much til we find out what and how it's this!
Aloha, Julie
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Post by Administration on Mar 24, 2006 14:16:57 GMT -5
I ordered some yesterday. I no longer have Morgellons symptoms that I am aware of, but am still very sick with Lyme. I am hoping this will help. I will sticky this post as we have a small experimental group trying this out together and we can post any improvement we notice or don't notice. No.. Julie is not selling this product or making any money off of it. She found something that apparently is working for her and is simply passing on the information. If you are leary about it, don't rush out to order it.. just watch this thread and see what others say about it first. This is why I ordered it myself, so if I don't see improvement of any kind, you won't waste your money. Kerry
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Post by Mmeme on Mar 25, 2006 0:23:14 GMT -5
I used it way back when either i was too infested or it wasn't for me. Let me know anyone that has crawling on scalp/body how it works for them.
May be improved also now,,,i'm so willing to try anything and almost have done so in these 3 years of trying to live with this horrible disease.
I'm so thankful though to have made it this far, have felt like giving up so so many many times. Praise God that He's not allowed me to throw in the towel.
Mememememe,,,,humming a little tune !!!
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Post by rickndebby on Mar 25, 2006 0:39:32 GMT -5
Hello JulieinHawaii, Thanks for your post....Please understand the skeptical replies that you have generated...They are not meant to be mean or disrespectful in any way....Many of us here have been through so much as far as high hopes that we tend to be a little defensive...With that being said I have to ask you if it is OK to use this product everywhere on the body.....How exactly has it helped your symptoms???.....For example...did it help alliviate any itching that you may have had?? Also how does this product help as far as " flushing " the Morgs from the body???.....You have got our attention big time....Thanks.... Rick of rickndebby
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Post by me2 on Mar 25, 2006 8:03:39 GMT -5
Julie I'm wonder4ing if y ou were taking anything else with this that might have assisted in your improvement?
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Post by eec on Mar 25, 2006 22:41:14 GMT -5
FEI (for everyones information)
i bought a bottle ofthis topical cleanse back in winter of 2004 at the time i was only taking cats claw and drinking herb teas while trying to sort out healthy no-low carb diet it seemed to help i used it for about 3 months 3x a day then i moved on to other protocols and anti-bx when i got my pos bowen lyme results i still splash a dap on now and then on the occasional spot or two that flair up from time to time i dont know which kingdom it kills but i am of the school of thought we need to go after them all lyme-funguses-worms/nematodes- bugs/arthopods
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Post by Carrie♥ on Mar 26, 2006 15:23:51 GMT -5
Thanks Julie for filling me in. The way the original post was written it sparked my suspicion. Hope I didn't offend you, just cautious, ya know. That bio film has been a nasty aspect of the disease...congrats to you for finding something to help remove it. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Post by Curious on Mar 26, 2006 19:09:30 GMT -5
What did I miss here. Has Bio film been identified or is this more guesswork.
If Morgellons scientists have identified Bio film I don't remember reading it. How about an explanation please.
Thank you.
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Post by Carrie♥ on Mar 26, 2006 20:04:22 GMT -5
Rickndebbie...thanks for the post. You took the time to describe my feelings from my initial post on this thread.
Curious...Has anything been identified here? As far as I know they've only ruled out a few things...nothing has been ruled in. Biofilm...covers my body. Biofilm, slime...call it what you like. It sounds like Julie may be familiar with it as well. From what I have read sounds like some have it and some may not. Are you aware of anything one thing that HAS been identified as playing a role in this disease that has not been posted on the MRF homepage that you could possibly share with us? That would be wonderful. Perhaps I am missing something as well, I don't like to be kept in the dark. As far as I am aware, this disease is what it is for the individual...isn't it all guess work at this point by people on the board since we are not scientist ourselves? Explaination...there isn't one really...for any of it...unless you have a better name to describe the nasty slime that carries this parasite around, in and on my body. That would be helpful.
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Post by Carrie♥ on Mar 29, 2006 13:29:20 GMT -5
Confused...are you talking to me? If so, I didn't say anything about what you are talking about...at least that I can understand anyway.
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Post by Bulgari on Mar 29, 2006 16:05:48 GMT -5
Just got off the phone with Judy of EcoVie, who told me that the product was discovered by accident. They made a product(s) to kill the fungus on vegitation. After splashing or deliberate spraying, Judy isn't sure which, a worker who had a skin affliction noted that it was healing. They tested and modified and came up with a product for people.
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Post by Bulgari on Mar 29, 2006 16:07:51 GMT -5
JulieinHawaii,
Thank you for your post. I can't wait to try it.
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Post by Julieinhawaii on Mar 29, 2006 18:34:17 GMT -5
Hi everybody !
Where to start first, the biofilm term came from Dr.Swz talking about S.Malto. Seems fitting to me for what is happening through out mine/our bodies. Others call it psudo (sp) skin, only it's not specific to skin at all.
This product covers the entire body, you fill the bath 4-5 inches of water add 1/8 - 1/4 cup of TC (topical cleanse) then soak, turning from front to back. It's important to follow the instructions of use. I am from old school when it comes to us morgies, way back when we blocked the oxygen to lesions by mayo or vasoline whatever we could to get it out. This is not the way this stuff works. If it worked better to submerge entire body it would say so but it doesn't. If it worked better to drink it again it would say so but it doesn't. I have mixed in juice and taken oral doses, which I would not reccomend unless you can handle to movements it will cause. I was afraid at that point plus I skipped the bath for 2 days and only did oral doses but it didn't work as well as soaking in it.
Soaking alone worked internally too. After the first bath gas and/or air came out through my mouth, rectum and while in the bath air bubbles by the dozen came out my skin. Fibers floating on the top of the bath water could easily be seen. In fact I had to start bringing little dixie cups with me so I could scoop the larger "things" I didn't want to share the bath with! In the first week I had noisy growling sounds with some cramping just seconds before BMs. Seemed the only thing coming out of me was the familiar Morgs stuff, only they were ten times longer larger than I had ever seen before.
I think the delivery system of this TC from ecovie works best if it is applied then allowed to dry somewhat and apply again. Thus the soaking in only 4-5 inches water and turning from back to front allowing the product to absorbe into the body. Spritzing is working great too ! If you just drink it you might have crawlies ten fold, then you'll want to jump in that bath ! As I found out. I like the process of elimation from soaking, when morgs came to us it was small, now 5 yrs later it is much larger and fast tracking it out of the body worries me about what damage could be done if these things rip right out.
I am so glad to have a control group getting together to figure out the best way of using this product so questions can be answered. I'm no expert only the farthest along. I do know none of us really stuck to any one thing but antibiotics and that will only leave you with just morgs.
When I started the ecovie I ran out of antibiotics. I was actually worried the abx would hinder the microbes. To answer the question asked if any meds could be what I was having good results from, the answer is no. I was on the same abx for wayyyyyyy to long. Now I have new meds, mostly to cure the Babesia that has come back to me. I'm not sure but when I started the ecovie my brain was driving me crazy, felt as though panic and a frenzy was going on in there and making thoughts race through my mind, making me have the undying urge to talk to myself. It was like driving cross country with someone who wouldn't shut up ! My llmd said it was the Babesia, on the meds now for that, we will see if others who start the ecovie have that busy mind symptom I had, I sure want to know which caused it the babesia or the morgs in panic about the microbes coming to kill them!
I have gotten to know Judy pretty well over the last month. One thing I think everyone should know is she knows less about what causes this disease than we do. Spare her all the questions please ! I felt bad that I was about to make her life misreble by letting 3000 of my closest friends in on her little bottle of brown stuff... lol
If your not sure about any of this just hang in and check back cause we are going to fill you in on how the treatment is going.
One think I will tell you is this TC has lightened my morg load like I never could have without this product !
I have the fungus control for spraying my plants and inside and outside of my home, to control the morgs. As most of you have seen on the news we are having weeks of rain over here and it would be a waist to use it only to have the rain come and wash it away before it has a chance to work. As soon as it stops rainning I am going to see how it works and of course I will share the info.
See ya back here soon ! Be brave and don't give up ! Love, Julie
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Post by Will on Mar 30, 2006 3:25:42 GMT -5
thanks for your post and the info JulieinHawaii interesting sounding product . does eco-vie happen to be a single celled organism ? reminds me of the woman from vancouver who became asymptomatic using kombucha and bathing in it day after day. Her results were not as fast as what you're reporting .
biofilm:...... biofilm is a community of microorganisms attached to a solid surface. A biofilm community can include bacteria, fungi, yeasts, protozoa, and other microorganisms.
quoram sensing that's what i think is involved with biofilms but i'm no expert and someone please clarify this for us if i'm incorrect..thanks
the eco-vie sounds like it has an enzyme like action ? is that right ? ...so it will chomp and dissolve various aspects of the complex..? again is that what others think ..? london..?....buehler..?...anyone..?
looking forward to the updates J i H ...be well......will
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