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Post by guest on Apr 11, 2006 14:08:52 GMT -5
oups misswrote 40 hours was supposed to be
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Post by Guest on Apr 11, 2006 16:58:10 GMT -5
I was told by a person at this company that the Topical Cleanse for human use was discovered quite by accident. This company's original product was made for use on wheat crops to cleanse them from mold, fungus and other bacteria. A woman decided to use them on her roses and ordered some.
She had a creepy-crawly infection on her arm, and whether or not she meant to or accidentally did, she put the product on her arm. The infection began to clear up. She then gave it to a friend with the same issue, and again healing was taking place.
She then reported to the company. They in turn gave it to a farmer friend to try who had terrible toe nail fungus...again it worked. Then they gave it to a hockey team to use to clear up their stinky feet. They soaked their feet and had nice smelling toes after playing.
So, they started formulated a product for human external use. That is the history of this product.
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Post by CA GA Peach on Apr 12, 2006 20:29:25 GMT -5
OK, I bit too. Bottle arrived 2 days ago and I have only spritzed and air-dried, not soaked yet. Don't like the smell, but I have used lots of things that smell a lot worse.
First, let me admit that I am on:
Minocycline for positive Lyme Fluconazole (Diflucan) for fungus Just completed 7 Biltricide treatments Just completed 7 Ivermectin treatments Started Albendazole today Zyrtec - antihistamine So crawling and fibers are already reduced to almost nothing.
The EcoVie does already appear to help with the fungus part of the disease. I believe it may be helping because the brown spots all over my body seem to be fading more quickly than they were with just the antifungal Rx. It makes my skin feel smoother. It does make the hair stand up straight as posted previously.
Regarding the EcoVie effect on the black "wyrms" that are attached to the hair follicle, I don't think there's any. When I tweeze a "hair" from my eyebrows and place in the EcoVie, the parasite does not do anything. However, when I place one of these in ammonia, the parasite immediately backs out of the follicle and then begins to dissolve almost immediately. The fact that it does not back out of the follicle while in the EcoVie and dissolve indicates to me that maybe this particular parasite in our disease is not affected by EcoVie like the fungus part is affected.
The question I have been trying to answer is: Which comes first the parasite or the fungus?
My gut feeling/woman's intuition is that the fungus comes first, then the parasites and bacteria, so anything that eliminates the fungus would eventually affect the parasites too. ??
I have found some hairs on my face (upper lip, chin, eyebrows) that have the parasite attached and there was no visible evidence of the film but 99% of them are always under/adjacent to the film.
I'll report back if I see any changes in my deformed knuckles. Something happened, Julie. After 1 day of EcoVie, one knuckle turned real red and it's NEVER done that before. Oh, how I'd love to be able to make a fist again and pick up and hold small things!
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Post by Will on Apr 13, 2006 17:07:04 GMT -5
great report CA GA P, curious have you tried any experiments where you've tried to determine if the biltricide or ivermectin were having any effect on the hair follicle parasite mentioned ?
please keep us posted on the hair parasite as the "fungus", as it's referred, is diminished.
so far, and quote,..... "The question I have been trying to answer is: Which comes first the parasite or the fungus?"................... I'm not sure we know if there is a one before the other or not. eradicating a component or diminishing it is great news in any case.
reduced skin immunity or compromised immunity quite possibly allows the hosting or growth of who knows what.
the question is still a good one when the possibilty of psuedomonas flouresence, some other bacteria that attracts insects, and/or fungus-mold-with viral replicator(wich i call the morgie, and that's a guess) may be present.
thanks again CA GA Peach.......
all statements and comments contained are opinions and nothing more. made by a know not much about the content of this subject by a person known by the appellation will. always seek competant medical help.
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Post by PamCA on Apr 13, 2006 18:35:58 GMT -5
I am so disgusted. I ordered the Tropical Cleanse last night. Today I got a message from them saying that because of security in the country it is hard to get the product to customers in a timely fashion. It might take 10 days. Then they gave shipping charges for faster delivery. Of 16-18 dollars. I have never had anyone do this before. Looks like they're trying to make more money from sick people from shipping charges. What do you think? Pam
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Post by FedUpOfCrawlies on Apr 13, 2006 21:18:42 GMT -5
Regarding shipping...I also felt disgusted initially till I saw it came from Canada, so I guess there is a delay in customs, mind you, u still get charged $10. The package came in 7 days anyway.
Not sure if I am getting any results yet, been using for 6 days. I only have the crawlies, micro dust falling off scalp and bites if in infested area. I have no lesions or bumps (been called dp by derms, docs) so maybe results are not immediate.
With application, the sensations go but then start up again after an hour or when solution is worn out. I wonder if one can mix with a cream so it stays on longer, any ideas.... Admittedly I have only soaked once(no time) but spritz and rub even undiluted.
Anyway patience is a virtue and jury is still out.
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Post by questionhair on Apr 13, 2006 21:33:06 GMT -5
I am so disgusted. I ordered the Tropical Cleanse last night. Today I got a message from them saying that because of security in the country it is hard to get the product to customers in a timely fashion. It might take 10 days. Then they gave shipping charges for faster delivery. Of 16-18 dollars. I have never had anyone do this before. Looks like they're trying to make more money from sick people from shipping charges. What do you think? Pam I feel that they are honest and friendly people. The emails I got were prompt and responsive. Naturally, faster shipping costs more. Especially from Canada. I chose the lower cost shipping and it arrived in California in about a week. But, once they put it into the postal system, it's out of their hands. Since their product is concentrated, it is a good value compared to products I used to try when I thought I had the lice from hell. I didn't get a sense that they were out to take advantage, but more that they hoped their product would help. QH
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Post by will on Apr 14, 2006 2:56:44 GMT -5
hi , i don't think the product is a stand alone one cure. i think it's going to be effective for me for a part or two.
i'll stick to an anti-candida diet , figure out how to beat nematodes senseless and other parasites .
lyme has had it's butt kicked. so now it's knock off another one or two offenders.
whatever,... some of the other gunk (bacteria-maybe steno-, maybe bt, maybe psuedo-floure..,) ...well, beat that too. so , working on other. me thinks there was bt or "bt like" and steno-, and psuedo-flour.. whatever it's so minor now.
there does seem to be a candida component to deal with and it may have qualities i know little of. i do think there is a pathogen in the skin that does not show in blood . and i think there's a viral component to it .
hey, but what do i know ? i kicked lymes butt...worked mine off to do it . and i'm going to do the same to the morgie and its' cohorts.......never give in ..........will
think i'll go skiing again this week, life rocks !
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Post by jeff on Apr 14, 2006 8:41:39 GMT -5
good the hear your doing better will..I heard were getting 2 feet of powder this weekend..this should be the last good ski weekend of the year...as far as powder..I thought you only hung here not posted...wow youve came out of the woodworks on this thread !!
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Post by glennb on Apr 16, 2006 0:19:03 GMT -5
Used Eco Vie for the first time a couple of nights ago. Noticed alot of stuff exiting my skin in the bath tub. Also noticed that air bubbles kept appearing on my inner thighs. I brushed them off several times and a couple of seconds later they would be back again. I have had a swollen, fluid-filled hump on top of the joint of one of my fingers. The derm doc thought it was a mucoid cyst and removed it during office surgery. The bandage that was wrapped around the finger had a big clot of black fibers in it the first time I changed it. Unfortunaely the cyst or whatever it is grew back. One soaking in the tub with ecovie and it shrank by half. Good results on my face as well with only a couple of applications to date. I wish they were more specific about what is really in this stuff.
Not crazy about the way it smells but it does seem to be working.
Thanks Eco Vie!
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Post by glennb on Apr 16, 2006 0:24:13 GMT -5
CA GA Peach Posted:
"The fact that it does not back out of the follicle while in the EcoVie and dissolve indicates to me that maybe this particular parasite in our disease is not affected by EcoVie like the fungus part is affected."
I think there are multiple parasites involved in this disease. I don't think the one that infests hair follicules or shafts is the main morgellons parasite. The one infesting hair may be a dermophyte.
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Post by Julieinhawaii on Apr 18, 2006 15:29:18 GMT -5
Wow ! I'm so happy to read the positive effects you brave morgies are reporting!
Healing isn't pretty, lip exits 24/7 of the bright white rod shape "skin like" shreds hanging or sticking straight out of lips. Wrinkles around and in my lips are dissapearing, area is smoothing out.
Some of the area swelling, like in the fingers, will eventually come to the surface as a callus. Not long after that it will start coming off. My eyes continue to shed grains from eyelash folicle area, the inside of my eyes looks much healthier. The iris color is looking more about the color and less about the white lines that ran thru the blue in my iris's. Also in my iris's I use to have specs the same color, shape and size of specs from my skin, these went away after being in there for 20 yrs. No sign of even one in the last 2 weeks!
I am still soaking with Ecovie everyday I am also taking these medications for Lyme and Babesia WA-1
Zithromax 500mg a day Omicef 600mg a day Probenecid 1000mg a day Plaquenil 400mg a day
After 2yrs + of drug therapy this combo is by far the best one yet.
My daughter is soaking in the ecovie, almost everyday. She doesn't like the air drying required for this stuff to work. If your child is still young enough to enjoy running around the house naked after the bath this could be a fun way to air dry. Even tho my daughter didn't like air drying, it didn't stop her from wanting to soak in our hope ! To me that means she feels a big difference soaking with the ecovie.
Good luck to all ! Julieinhawaii
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Post by glitterbug on Apr 18, 2006 16:17:39 GMT -5
I wanted to ask you about a couple of the drugs you are taking, one is for gout and one is for malaria. They have some real bad side effects. Have you had any? The omicef is a celphasporin drug. I was given at the first of this and it got worse. Do you feel it has a positive effect on this? I got real ill on it. Taking all of these each day, is it making you sick? Just asking as I want to know how you are doing on these drugs. I ordered the bath product. Am hoping it helps.
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Post by Julieinhawaii on Apr 18, 2006 16:40:45 GMT -5
Hi CA GA Peach !
I have the same wishes as you. To make a fist, pull the draprey cord, to open any twist off bottle and/or straighten out my entire hand and fingers.
My right hand is a mess ! Healing here is again "not pretty" ! ! !
I can't imagine living with all I see present in this hand. It hurts when debris is removed from inside the finger joints, but it's final removal when this area clears. It all seems to be connected inside and between joints. As if that is where they lock in. Where ever there's a joint there's wrinkles, within these wrinkles morgellons finds a most favorite place to stay.
I will look forward to hearing how your hand is doing in the future as your the only person I know with the same problem in the hands like me.
Aloha, Julie
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Post by Julieinhawaii on Apr 18, 2006 17:04:55 GMT -5
Hi Glitterbug,
To answer the drug question, was I getting sick from the meds, nope.
I had a heck of a time trying to keep Amoxy and Doxy to stay in my stomach. I felt like I threw up for a year, not fun and doctors could see I was fed up with feeling this way. When they changed meds to these I was told Plaq and Omni might make my stomach upset like the Doxy, but so far ok. As long as I take it in the middle of a meal or at the end of a meal (but the middle is better) there's no upset stomach. This combo along with the ecovie is "kicking ass" to be honest.
You said some of these meds were what you tried first ? Or in the begining. It's crazy how the treatment of lyme and co-infects goes. My only thoughts on why you had a reaction to these meds was either "herx" or you needed to approach therapy slower, or kill some population of one pathogen first then make attempts to slowly go after these other protozoan infections. There are a few different medications to choose from that will go after the same pathogens like this, I know some families that have to all take different medications for killing the pathogen. Crazy eh?
Good luck, Julie
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Post by glitterbug on Apr 18, 2006 21:10:01 GMT -5
Thanks Julie! That answered alot of my questions. I hope you get alot better soon>! I am hoping the bath helps with the film on our skin. I'll let you know how it works. Do you feel the malaria drug is effective against part of this germ or germs? Let us know how every goes. Maybe you will find us other amazing products. I know everyone is tired of fighting this nightmare. You have been helpful and always kind. Thanks and may God speed your recovery.
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Post by just askin on Apr 20, 2006 19:16:34 GMT -5
Does eco-vie work if you have no lesions?
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Post by Julieinhawaii on Apr 24, 2006 14:57:06 GMT -5
Does Ecovie work if you don't have lesions ?
Yes ! I haven't had lesions for 3 years, not like the ones I had at first anyway. My lesions are now mostly in the palm of my right hand. These lesions to be honest are mostly caused by me! In the begining the lesions came no matter what I did or didn't do. While on IV Rochephin my hands began to suffer lumps and exits from them. As if the Rochephin was drawing the morgs out of my hands. I began to pull out what was already half way out but the IV was stopped after a year and the lesions never healed. These were very small compared to lesions in the first 2 years.
The reality of how much morgs was inside me came in the first week of bathing in ecovie. This has been the case in most of the morgies using ecovie. Were very shocked to find after being lesions free for so long didn't mean we were improving. They never went away they just moved much deeper inside. Confusing the thoughts of stiff joints as being caused by Lyme, NOT ! Morgs is in the joints making them harden up stiff as cement ! After a couple months of ecovie joints are improving, I see lumps coming out of joints looking like RA but they eventually dry up and sluff off for the most part. Some of these lumps might actally be part air ! Morgs seems to travel in an air bubble, I see them come out of my skin while soaking in ecovie, upon reaching the waters surface will they pop to the point you can here the pop! I also continue to here loud gas like sounds from inside my intestinal areas, this is constantly ongoing and really pronounced after a soak. Lots and lots of air trapped inside us !
I hope that about answers your question.
aloha, Julie
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Post by tonie on Apr 25, 2006 9:02:09 GMT -5
Does anyone know what any of the ingredients are in the EcoVie?
If they're all natural things for instance, and "ingestible" I don't know - but maybe an internal cleanse might work as well as this does on the outside for you, do you think that might be a possibility?
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Post by glennb on Apr 25, 2006 18:33:29 GMT -5
I have been using ecovie for several days now. Last night when I did my soaking bath the top of the water was covered in a film of white specks and fibers. I looked at the water with my magnifiying glass and saw alot of fuzzballs and fibers. I soaked my face where I have the worst lesions while I was in the tub. In the morning one of the lesions alongside my nose had exuded a lot of yellow stuff which had run down the side of my nose in a little river. I think this is a good sign.
I plan on ordering more ecovie. It is definiately getting more of these things out of my skin than the apple cider viinegar soaks.
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