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Post by jwf on Oct 26, 2005 0:11:35 GMT -5
Hi T, Teasel is such a powerful herb it probably should be pulsed or alternated with other anti-spirochetes. Occasionally we will stop taking the stronger herbs for a couple of weeks and then start again to keep the insidious Lyme bacteria off balance.
Dr. Klinghardt has some excellent ideas about Lyme treatment- at least there are many patients that attest to his help, and he is regularly talked about on LymeNet. I've posted several of his articles here, because of his emphasis on herbal treatment and detoxification. Heavy metal buildup does seem to keep Lymies from healing, especially mercury. I had several Si/Hg amalgam fillings removed and replaced with composites.
We've tried several brands of Sarsaparilla and don't notice any difference in strength unlike Cat's Claw. With Garlic you probably know that we prefer the Kyolic brand because it is fermented. From what I can tell it is one of the strongest garlics you can buy, and it doesn't have the sometimes objectionable odor that other brands have.
The web address above for the Seven Forest herbal formulas didn't work. I think we paid about $17.00 per 250 tablet bottle from an acupuncturist. These are excellent supplements and will probably fight many of the co-infections that travel with Lyme and those that latch on afterward. Of course the primary target is Lyme. Blue Skies.......................John
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Post by Frisk on Oct 27, 2005 0:18:46 GMT -5
John, what brand of cats claw do you thinks the strongest? Thanks :-*Frisky cat
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Post by floridagal1 on Oct 27, 2005 10:04:05 GMT -5
Dear John,
It is so interesting to me that you had your silver amalgams removed! I am in the process of having mine replaced with plastic composites as well. Even before I found out how important it is in recovering from Lyme. Hulda Clarke, who is noted for her work with disease and parasites, states how essential it is to get all metals out of the mouth, especially mercury. I found out my "silver" amalgams were actually made of 52% mercury! The sad truth is, I had my "mercury" fillings replaced earlier.
I ordered most of my herbs today. But I couldn't find your source for triphala in this thread...just a post for a great article. Since it seems you consider it a most important member of the arsenal, I thought I would ask if you could recommend a source.
Now, regarding the teasel, Cat's Claw and Seven Forest herbs: The lady at the teasel source said to take it for six weeks. Would you hold off on the Cat's Claw and the Seven Forest until the end of that course?
Maybe I should just ask what method you and Annie find best? And what amounts of the triphala and teasel do you take? The teasel lady said 3 drops for both children and adults. Thought that was interesting. I noticed Dr. Klinghardt uses a much higher dosage in his article. I'm glad to hear that you have heard of him.
The teasel lady also recommended a book for Lyme: Healing Lyme by John Buhner about healing lyme with herbs. Have you read this as well?
As always, thank you for your time and commitment to share your knowledge with others.
Have a great day.
T/Florida Gal
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Post by jwf on Oct 27, 2005 10:08:15 GMT -5
Hi Frisky Cat, For the money, we like the RainTree brand of Cat's Claw. If you want TOA-free Cat's Claw, Samento liquid seems to work well. Susan's herbs has a good price:
www.myherbs.net/productinfo.asp?prod=TT%2D16
Their is some controversy surrounding the value of TOA-free Cat's Claw, so you may want to read the following article:
www.rain-tree.com/toa-poa-article.htm
Hope you are faring well-- Blue Skies.................John
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Post by frisk on Oct 29, 2005 2:03:02 GMT -5
Thanks friend! :-*Frisky cat
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Post by jwf on Oct 30, 2005 15:21:02 GMT -5
Hi T, Your Teasel supplier is probably following Matthew Wood's protocol. That's the one I would follow, because of his success rate. It really is your judgment call to combine Teasel and Cat's Claw. I would start with the Teasel alone and get a good feel for how you are herxing with it- and then add the Cat's Claw after a week or so if you can tolerate it. We have used several different brands of Triphala with equal results, all bought from our local health food store. Best Wishes & Blue Skies............John
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Post by floridagal1 on Oct 30, 2005 17:34:51 GMT -5
Thank you, John. Blessings to you and Annie. T
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Post by jwf on Nov 7, 2005 23:20:14 GMT -5
Hi folks, About a month ago we made 1 important addition to our herb intake for Lyme and Morgellons. You may have heard a little about the tropical herb called Graviola. Annie and I have known about it from our visits to St. Croix where it is called soursop and mixed with rum and tamarind makes an excellent (I've been told) plantation punch. When you have had experience with Morgellons you tend to notice how people scratch and where their hands go. With me, I've noticed how people will put there index or pinkie finger to the corners of their eyes as if to whisk something away, or rub, or just apply pressure for relief from something bothering them. This habit is mine also, or was, until I started taking Graviola-- along with my usual Cat's Claw, Grape Seed Extract, Sarsaparilla, and Kyolic Garlic. This may seem like a small thing, but it's probably important in that Graviola is antifungal and anti- parasitic (especially worms)-- and is very potent. Look ma, no more eye itch!
www.rain-tree.com/graviola.htm
I hope some of you will be able to try Graviola and get some relief.
Blue Skies.....................John
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Post by just me on Nov 8, 2005 8:53:02 GMT -5
i'm so glad you posted this. i ordered graviola from zooscape.com several months ago and had to throw the whole thing out. there was several feet of cotton stuffed in the bottle and of course it left it full of fibers.....too many to clean out by hand.
i will order some from raintree today. thanks so much. it looks promising.
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Post by floridagal1 on Nov 8, 2005 14:21:08 GMT -5
Hi John,
I just finished Stephen Buhner's book, Healing Lyme. It was well worth the $14 through Amazon, if only for his technical explanation of how the spirochete works. I thought you would enjoy hearing that Cat's Claw is part of his core herbal protocol, along with Japanese Knotwood (key ingredient: Resveratrol) and Andrographis paniculata. Herbs that can be added to the core are Astragalus, depending on the stage of infection (not recommended in late stage), and Sarsparilla.
The brand he recommends for Cat's Claw is Raintree because of their quality and the ethical way in which they harvest the herb. He builds a great case for not going TOA free as do the Raintree people. They do not destroy it's roots, leaving it to grow again. It felt good to know I am using a great brand. And thank you for your testimony about Graviola. I will try it.
Bye for now, T/Florida Gal
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Post by floridagal1 on Nov 9, 2005 7:28:05 GMT -5
John,
I just noticed that Andrographis is one of the ingredients in the Seven Forest Herbs. Smile. Such overlap, here, to me is great confirmation of the herbal protocol you and your wife used to recover. I get excited about little and great things, and I definitely think this is a great thing.
Blessings, T/Florida Gal
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Post by jwf on Nov 9, 2005 16:52:57 GMT -5
Hi T and just me, Buhner's book on Healing Lyme sounds well written and very helpful. A balanced approach with herbs and antibiotics is unusual. It's great confirmation for my work in deciding what really is effective in attacking the Lyme bacteria. It's icing on the cake that the Morgellons appears to have gone as well. My belief is that herbs are more effective than antibiotics (prescription) for long term treatment of chronic conditions, including Lyme. Of course, there are good reasons for taking antibiotics for shorter courses of therapy in conjunction with herbal treatment. Annie and I usually don't recommend a particular brand for a product unless we do notice a difference in quality. With RainTree, we feel that your money is well spent. Blue Skies..................John
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Post by Susan on Nov 10, 2005 14:10:41 GMT -5
Thanks John, you always have great info.
Hope you and the Mrs. are doing well.
Do you have any info on how to get this out of my mouth, I use Listerine that help some. but not enough...
thanks again Your pal in Tennessee Susan ( A New Grandma)
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Post by frisk on Nov 10, 2005 14:15:06 GMT -5
Susan!! Your a grandma- congratulations!! :-*Frisky cat
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Post by Susan on Nov 10, 2005 14:28:02 GMT -5
Thanks Frisky, It's the best. This is my first grand baby. I am a really young grandma.... well maybe not really young
I loved my sons when they were babies but Grand babies are the best cause you can love them play with them and spoil them rotten and when she gets fussy or need a diaper change I can give her back to Daddy and Mommy....hehehe...
babies are so sweet.
How are you doing Frisky?
Lot of Love Susan
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Post by Frisk on Nov 12, 2005 21:16:21 GMT -5
Hi Susan. Im doing well! Just got back from a vacation, a much needed rest. I hope you feel better soon and am happy for you and your new addition ;D :-*Frisky cat
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Post by Angel on Nov 13, 2005 21:28:23 GMT -5
Where do you go to get the right Lyme test do you have a phone number or web address and a price thanks Hi T and just me, Buhner's book on Healing Lyme sounds well written and very helpful. A balanced approach with herbs and antibiotics is unusual. It's great confirmation for my work in deciding what really is effective in attacking the Lyme bacteria. It's icing on the cake that the Morgellons appears to have gone as well. My belief is that herbs are more effective than antibiotics (prescription) for long term treatment of chronic conditions, including Lyme. Of course, there are good reasons for taking antibiotics for shorter courses of therapy in conjunction with herbal treatment. Annie and I usually don't recommend a particular brand for a product unless we do notice a difference in quality. With RainTree, we feel that your money is well spent. Blue Skies..................John
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Post by jwf on Nov 13, 2005 22:59:37 GMT -5
Hi Susan, It's my feeling that oral health does reflect the overall health of your body. Although there are many direct measures you can take to help maintain oral health, like an apple cider vinegar rinse, salt rinse, baking soda toothpaste, no sugary sodas with phosphoric acid, etc., the effects of a whole body cleanse will be more effective and long last- ing. One of our frequent posters, Taratula38, has had some success following Hulda Clark and John Christopher protocols. Their approach focuses on ridding the body of parasites and other waste. You will notice that many of the herbs that my family uses (our dogs, too) include those that kill parasites and neutralize toxins. Annie wanted me to mention to you folks that she recently discovered that an enema with pepper- mint tea is very powerful. She is not bashful when it comes to potty language and health, so that makes for exciting discussions around our house. Of course a good enema is part art and part science, so it is an art form that must be practiced until mastered. Good bowel health is essential to being healthy and how one achieves that is open to much debate. I'm a high roughage proponent, and a good fast now and then is very helpful. Blue Skies from North Carolina..................John
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Post by jwf on Nov 13, 2005 23:35:53 GMT -5
Hi Angel, I prefer IgeneX and Bowen Research Labs. The most popular tests with IgeneX are the two Western Blots, IgM and IgG. With Bowen you are also tested for Babesia and Ehrlichia. The Bowen test is given for a donation of $250.00. The IgeneX tests cost just a bit less. www.bowen.org/ www.igenex.com/bodypage.htm
Blue Skies.............John
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Post by Dr jekyl on Nov 16, 2005 8:11:22 GMT -5
Hi Susan, It's my feeling that oral health does reflect the overall health of your body. Although there are many direct measures you can take to help maintain oral health, like an apple cider vinegar rinse, salt rinse, baking soda toothpaste, no sugary sodas with phosphoric acid, etc., the effects of a whole body cleanse will be more effective and long last- ing. One of our frequent posters, Taratula38, has had some success following Hulda Clark and John Christopher protocols. Their approach focuses on ridding the body of parasites and other waste. You will notice that many of the herbs that my family uses (our dogs, too) include those that kill parasites and neutralize toxins. Annie wanted me to mention to you folks that she recently discovered that an enema with pepper- mint tea is very powerful. She is not bashful when it comes to potty language and health, so that makes for exciting discussions around our house. Of course a good enema is part art and part science, so it is an art form that must be practiced until mastered. Good bowel health is essential to being healthy and how one achieves that is open to much debate. I'm a high roughage proponent, and a good fast now and then is very helpful. Blue Skies from North Carolina..................John Thanks JFW for reminders as usual. Ladies and gentlemen cleansing can also be done via vaginal or anal boluses. You mix herbal powders and coconut oil into small cylinders and sleep with them internally overnight. I wrap mine in sterile guaze to facilitate easier removal. And keep them refrigerated. If you didnt use anything else but yellow dock as the only ingredient...it would still work. It will cleanse you....alll the way into your organs. It will bust tumors and cysts and cause them to pass harmlessly from your body with no pain. I am proof of this. But b4 you do any of that you must do a liver flush, a kidney flush and a gallbladder flush. Then a parasite cleanse at least two rounds. Then the boluses. I was the type of person b4 this scrourge who never even thought about natural medicine. I am so convinced after helping a few others, that when completely well I may return to school to study this very subject. If not a holistic doctor then at least a master herbalist. ;D What a waste that doctors don't incorporate this in their practice. But then again they would lose money. Im going to try that peppermint enema....of course
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