((John's list of herbal remedies listed below--for convenience))
I am visiting this site today to post a list of herbs etc. from John
our group:
health.groups.yahoo.com/group/finding1cure/this is a link to our group if you care to visit
(morg. and Lyme)
Nothing is said below about liver flushes or liver products and I
think we need one because of all the die off.
Also which one to use for mercury detox.
I have been using a product by Hulda Clark called "spice syrup"
and "cactus pills" for a while and it kills the eggs and is very
effective. So I would add it to the list.
shrc.net/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=SFNTI (sedonia777@yahoo.com) was sent this link from a member and I
found it took a lot
of time to sort through the conversation so I re-typed it and did a
lot of cut and paste
from the original to get it to this format. I feel now it is more
useful because the
herbs etc. are in one place. Thanks to John
First of all I would like to thank John Blue Skies from the bottom
of my heart
for sharing his experience with us. John has helped so many
people. I really
am grateful for people like him. My hat off to you John, you are
precious.
May God bless you and your wife.
You are welcome to our board anytime which I/we just created in
November 2005.
health.groups.yahoo.com/group/finding1cure/MESSAGE FROM JOHN BLUE SKIES:
From John (his posts) on the
www.lymebusters.com website:
I'm a nutritionist (M.Ed.) and Annie has a background
in healing that included herbs.
The following is an update to share our new test
results from IgeneX and Bowen.
Annie just tested with Bowen this time and showed no
change, although she is now free of any symptoms
from Morgellons or Lyme.
My Bowen results were much improved from two years
ago. A jump from detection at 1:64 to 1:8, a move of
three orders of serial dilution in a good direction,
toward none found and into the touchdown zone.
The IgeneX results after one year of herbs:
IgM- Still indeterminate (Ind.), although some
change for the better
IgG- From positive to negative- Yahooooo!
This was done with herbs that are readily available.
We hope to someday test negative with both Western
blots form IgeneX and negative with Bowen.
So for now, we continue with all the herbs.
IGENEX AND BOWEN RESEARCH LABS
I prefer IgeneX and Bowen Research Labs.
The most popular tests with IgeneX are the two
Western Blots, IgM and IgG.
With Bowen you are also tested for Babesia and Ehrlichia.
The Bowen test is given for a donation of $250.00.
The IgeneX tests cost just a bit less.
www.bowen.org/http://www.igenex.com...e.htm
BUHNER'S BOOK
Buhner's book on Healing Lyme sounds well
written and very helpful. A balanced approach with
herbs and antibiotics is unusual.
APPLE CIDER VINEGAR RINSE, SALT RINSE and
BAKING SODA TOOTHPASTE
It's great confirmation for my work in deciding
what really is effective in attacking the Lyme bacteria.
It's icing on the cake that the Morgellons appears to
have gone as well.
HERBS MORE EFFECTIVE THAN ANTIBIOTICS
My belief is that herbs are more effective than
antibiotics (prescription) for long term treatment
of chronic conditions, including Lyme. Of course,
there are good reasons for taking antibiotics for
shorter courses of therapy in conjunction with
herbal treatment.
RAINTREE
Annie and I usually don't recommend a particular
brand for a product unless we do notice a difference
in quality. With RainTree, we feel that your money
is well spent.
It's my feeling that oral health does reflect the
overall health of your body.
Although there are many direct measures you can
take to help maintain oral health, like an apple
cider vinegar rinse, salt rinse, baking soda toothpaste,
no sugary sodas with phosphoric acid, etc., the effects
of a whole body cleanse will be more effective and long last-
ing.
HULDA CLARK AND DR CHRISTOPHER-
KILLING PARASITES AND NEUTRALIZING TOXINS
One of our frequent posters, Taratula38, has
had some success following Hulda Clark and John
Christopher protocols. Their approach focuses on
ridding the body of parasites and other waste.
You will notice that many of the herbs that my
family uses (our dogs, too) include those that
kill parasites and neutralize toxins.
ENEMA WITH PEPPERMINT TEA
Annie wanted me to mention to you folks that
she recently discovered that an enema with pepper-
mint tea is very powerful. She is not bashful when
it comes to potty language and health, so that
makes for exciting discussions around our house.
Of course a good enema is part art and part science,
so it is an art form that must be practiced until
mastered.
Good bowel health is essential to being healthy
and how one achieves that is open to much debate.
EATING ROUGHAGE AND FASTING
I'm a high roughage proponent, and a good fast
now and then is very helpful.
DOXYCYCLINE
Our doctor gave us 4 weeks of low dose doxycycline
and then we started the herbal treatment.
We are very happy with the results, knock on wood
Dr. Klinghardt has some excellent ideas about
Lyme treatment- at least there are many patients
that attest to his help, and he is regularly talked
about on
www.lymenet.comHEAVY METAL BUILDUP
Heavy metal buildup does seem to keep Lymies from healing
especially mercury. I had several Si/Hg amalgam fillings
removed and replaced with composites.
ANTIBACTERIAL, ANTIFUNGAL, DEWORMER
DIE OFF BACTERIA, YEAST, FUNGUS, WORMS AND FLUKES
Each item has a purpose and some have several.
Some are antibacterial, anti-fungal, and a dewormer.
Others are for taking care of the die-off of bacteria,
yeast, fungus, and worms and flukes if you have those
I feel like our present good health is due to attacking
all infection and infestation at the same time-
because they reinforce and sustain each other.
Knock out one and the others invite another.
Our Morgellon symptoms- the itching, stabbing pains,
crawling sensation, and the red, blue, and clear fibers,
began to lessen within a couple of weeks of taking
the herbs.
I've been symptom free for about
five months now, so the herbs took about a year
to knock out the infection. About the sitting on
wood; old habits die hard, especially when they
use to bring relief.
The main reason I hold out hope for others good
health is because I have mine back.
LEATHER TREATMENT, MANUKA
I sit in a wooden chair- no fabric- most of the time.
For TV time, we have a leather couch and antique
wooden chairs with leather seats. We use a leather
treatment with Manuka in it from New Zealand.
Manuka is a cousin to the Tea Tree.
DOXYCYCLINE
1 month low dose of doxycycline
CATS CLAW
Several questions come up right away about
anyone's experience with Cat's Claw.
These are important questions to ask yourself.
#1- what brand and what type of Cat's Claw did
you try?
#2--how much did you take each day?
#3--- how long did you try it?
#4---what else are you doing for detox and
cleansing?
If you've read my posts about Cat's Claw, then
you know my preference for the whole herb from
RainTree.
A whole lot less expensive than any TOA-
free version, and worked just as well for us.
For your question about expense, what are the
relative costs of doctors and antibiotics?
Cat's Claw or also named Samento—
helps 200 known medical conditions
Cat's claw was initially taken in amounts of 2-3
capsules/day and increased as the Herxheimer
reaction became tolerable.
For the money, we like the RainTree brand of
Cat's Claw.
There is some controversy surrounding the value
of TOA-free Cat's Claw, so you may want to read the
following article:
http://www.rain-tree.com...e.htm
If you want TOA-free Cat's Claw,
Samento liquid seems to work well. Susan's herbs
has a good price:
mention the name Joanne if you want a discount on any
of her products:
email Susan or Joanne sedonia777@yahoo.com
www.myherbs.net/productinfo.as...od=TT%2D16TEASEL--(anti spiroketes formula—as well as Cats Claw)
Teasel is such a powerful herb it probably should
be pulsed or alternated with other anti-spirochetes.
Occasionally we will stop taking the stronger herbs
for a couple of weeks and then start again to keep
the insidious Lyme bacteria off balance.
Your Teasel supplier is probably following Matthew
Wood's protocol. That's the one I would follow,
because of his success rate.
It really is your judgment call to combine Teasel
and Cat's Claw. I would start with the Teasel alone
and get a good feel for how you are herxing with it-
and then add the Cat's Claw after a week or so if
you can tolerate it.
For Teasel, here are a few links:
www.suite101.com/print_article..../631/75684www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...5?v=glancehttp://www.jeansgreens.../
this is a good source for ordering Teasel
http://www.mistymeadows.org....html
OLIVE LEAF EXTRACT for bacteria, viruses, yeast, and fungus
Olive Leaf Extract-- Posted on the old N--PA board
back in Feb. of last year. I've lost the best link that
indicates the research done with OLE and different
mycoplasmas, but here is another that I like;
also Neem and Uva Ursi.
My money is with Olive Leaf Extract, but then I
already take it- for viruses and bacteria- and some
other unmentionables.
info re STEALTH PATHOGENS
http://www.rain-tree.com...o.htm
for ordering products
www.rain-tree.com/wards off bacteria, viruses, yeast, and fungus.
it is an antioxidant, and helps to reduce the bad
cholesterol. Somehow it helps people lose weight-
we ate like horses in Greece and every plate of
food was soaked in olive oil- we lost weight.
It is very cleansing to the gall bladder. Goodbye
stones.
There is evidence now that it is antiviral and is
known to combat hepatitis and herpes in their
many forms.
It is definitely antibacterial- broad spectrum but
does not seem to affect your friendly bacteria in
the gut.
It is excellent in combating candida and fungal
infections.
We feel like it should be taken if you are taking
antibiotics.
For Morgellons, it will boost your own immune
system- and that is probably what will win the
battle for you.
SEVEN FOREST HERBAL FORMULS FOR SPIROCHETES
The Seven Forest herbal formulas No. 6 and 18 came
from a local Acupuncturist.
I think we paid about
$17.00 per 250 tablet bottle from an acupuncturist.
These are excellent supplements and will probably
fight many of the co-infections that travel with Lyme
and those that latch on afterward.
Of course the primary target is Lyme.
GRAVIOLA-ANTIFUNGAL, ANTIPARASITIC
ANTIWORM—eye itch
About a month ago we made 1 important addition
to our herb intake for Lyme and Morgellons.
You may have heard a little about the tropical herb
called Graviola. Annie and I have known about it from
our visits to St. Croix where it is called soursop and
mixed with rum and tamarind makes an excellent
(I've been told) plantation punch.
When you have had experience with Morgellons
you tend to notice how people scratch and where
their hands go. With me, I've noticed how people
will put there index or pinkie finger to the corners
of their eyes as if to whisk something away, or rub,
or just apply pressure for relief from something
bothering them.
This habit is mine also, or was, until I started taking
Graviola-- along with my usual Cat's Claw, Grape
Seed Extract, Sarsaparilla, and Kyolic Garlic.
This may seem like a small thing, but it's probably
important in that Graviola is antifungal and anti-
parasitic (especially worms)-- and is very potent.
Look ma, no more eye itch!
order Graviola here
http://www.rain-tree.com...a.htm
TRIPHALA AND SARSAPARILLA
FOR BACTERIAL, FUNGAL, VIRAL OR AMOEBOID
Triphala; a 3500 year old recipe for
good health, whether your nemesis is
bacterial,fungal, viral, or amoeboid.
We have used several different brands of Triphala
with equal results, all bought from our local health
food store.
One of my favorites, it's also a mild laxative.
Also, it is a very strong antioxidant and anti-cancer
supplement- a gift from India.
read this:
http://www.bot...nicalpathways.com/issue16/triphala_16.htm
We've tried several brands of Sarsaparilla and
don't notice any difference in strength--- unlike Cat's
Claw.
The Sarsaparilla and Triphala (the formula from India)
were purchased from a local health food store.
INFO:
CHINESE HERBAL TREATMENT FOR LYME, LEPTOSPIROSIS
MALARIA, BABESIA and SYPHILLIS AND SCHISTOSOMIASIS.
http://www.itmonline.org...e.htm
http://www.itmonline.org...o.htm
TWO KYOLIC FORMULAS Immune Antioxidant
With Garlic you probably know that we prefer
the Kyolic brand because it is fermented.
From what
I can tell it is one of the strongest garlics you can buy,
and it doesn't have the sometimes objectionable
odor that other brands have.
PAU DE ARCO---anti fungus/candida/yeast
FOLIC ACID
NAC(Cysteine--anti worm)
IONIC SILVER
OREGANO OIL
What we did was purchase the pure liquid form from
the Mediterranean and then put it in 00 capsules with
olive oil as the base-- about 4-5 drops of oregano
per capsule.
It's potent.
When the Oregano is mixed with Olive Oil and put
in a capsule, there is no problem with burning
The Kyolic garlic immune formula has oregano in it.
GRAPE SEED EXTRACT
ARTEMISININ ANNUA--salve for lesions
ARTEMISININ--
Artemisinin
Ching-hao or Artemesia Annua salve for lesions
and Artemisinin were
bought from the Organic Pharmacy in Asheville:
www.organic-pharmacy.com/ARG.Artemisinin.htmARTEMISININ GEL--skin lesions
here are two links for artemisinin gel:
www.allergyresearchgroup.com/proddesc/categ...crobal.htmwww.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...05?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=3762121&s=hpc&v=glance
MENTHOL CRYSTALS
We put them in small sachets that can be left any-
where you feel things getting itchy.
I keep a couple under my pillow, and used to put
them right next to my face when times were bad-
everything gets right peaceful with menthol around.
It is anti-fungal and antibacterial.
A small electrical diffuser that simply heats oils is
used to stop all activity in a room. We found that
3 days of diffusing crystals in a room makes it
inhabitable for even those who are the most
sensitive to the environment.
This works especially well around electrical equip-
ment like computers. Completely debugs the area.
We think the pound of crystals purchase makes the
best use of your money, if you are going to make the
sachets and use the diffuser.
The crystals may vary in size but not to big for the
steel dish.
No other aromatic oils worked as well as the menthol
for stopping the itching.
The three days for cleansing a room is a rough
estimate of our trials- which meant filling the dish
with crystals and the letting it run out, three days
in a row.
www.wildroots.comELECTRONIC AROMATHERAPY DIFFUSER FOR THE CRYSTALS
The electronic aromatherapy diffuser
box got thrown away a couple of weeks ago, but
through the magic of Google-ing, here is the one
I bought and prefer because there are no disposa-
bles to buy. It has a ceramic disk that heats a
removable (for cleaning) stainless steel dish for
oils, in this case the menthol crystals. Ours was
purchased at a local health food store for about
$15.00.
www.drugstore.com/products/prod....&trxp4For Sanity:
Aromatherapy: diffused
into bedroom & office- calming to nerves
and whatever itches like hell.
KLEEN EM AWAY ENZYME CLEANER
any enzyme spray
God bless Joanne sedonia777@yahoo.com