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Post by toni on May 20, 2008 9:19:24 GMT -5
So far...from what I've read about the pineal gland and the calcite formations, and even being calcified, which this is very normal...similar to what's in our inner ear...is suppose to be.
I remember this now, last year when that picture went up I did read all about this....just forgot, it got all pushed back in the old files in the head.
It's nothing new to the human body. Science has only found a "new way" to isolate them for study.
So I'm not "getting it"? Why are we looking at that? Like trying to figure out something that already is normal.
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Post by skytroll on May 20, 2008 12:26:56 GMT -5
From your first link the goal is to make dimers: ........."Finally, the structural study was complemented by the theoretical calculations to shed some light, at a detailed molecular level, on the role of silicatein in the biosilicification process. From the molecular simulations we have obtained some preliminary hints about the role of the spicule proteins in promoting the process of silica polymerization. Indeed, the simulation of the interactions between the silicatein active site and orthosilicic acid or its deprotonated anion has shown that the rotation of the serine and histidine side chains, through the formation of hydrogen bonds, can bring two orthosilicic acid units together, and that the formation of a (OH)3Si-O-Si(OH)3 dimer is an energetically favored process."........... That is "silica polymerization" we have polymers in our DNA. So. this is used to make these replace human polymerization. Beyond DNA but into the molecular structures of it. This is a product used from the sponge. The combination: The formation of a (OH)3Si-O-Si(OH)3 dimer is an energetically favored process."........... This is the sol-gel, and used in Hair conditioning. www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?IA=WO1999003447&DISPLAY=DESChere is where the ester come in, However, the molecular simulation, a type of biomimicism. Will wade through those, but, do think the matrix is formed from this, one step of it. Dimers are the creation using the ingredients from the sponge and the gases. Will go through your next link. thanks so much. can see much involved with materials used from your links. Self assembling building blocks for nano devices. Skytroll Skytroll
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Post by skytroll on May 20, 2008 13:09:19 GMT -5
Toni,
This is what the nano is made of. It will mimic our real characteristics. This is how evolution keeps going on and on and on...........Physically we have already been here for some time, but, the next phase of evolution, created by man, is now in process.
We are the earth, the earth is us, this is the theory. We are the rocks, we are the sponges, we are the flies, we are the c. elegans worm, the zebra fish, all the models that are used, now we are crossing species of chemical formations. Making what exists in an alternate evolutionary manner, instilling the intermediates, which are the missing links Darwin spoke of, they have to be created, or in this sense recreated by using different elemental compounds, always used by alchemists. But, when alchemy is used for an alternate creation of the molecular machine, the nano devices, creations of unknown formulas arise, especially if the science is used to further evolution. We are evolving into synthetic, copies of nature, as envisioned by these scientists who see no difference in nature and what can be created by crossing natural processes and inorganic processes and the human body, and they do believe that this is the the only way to incorporate the physics science as well.
Light photons are need to make things grow in the dark, they need to be illuminated by either sunlight or by light itself. The calcium channel in the human body, is involved in the spark of life. That spark of life involves photons. Now, if one can rearrange the photons, the proteins, the enzymes, the calcium and use hydrogen bonds, then that spark can be created, to regenerate life, keep the bones working, the muscle fibers working, the actin working etc. All areas of our body have body plans which these scientists show that every system in the body has a body plan, each is from something other than human, is from the sponges, the gases in the bottom of the ocean, the introduction of Archaea to the creation of species, that is why the new "novel organisms" are developed in a lab and released, can change the species, now introducing the materials of rocks, of shells, of diatoms, of sponges, of gases, of carbon buckyballs, which change the very nature of the oceans, the iron species used as well.
In other words altering humans to incorporate these materials into our bodies.
Each system: the skeletal can be related to the diatoms, the calcium in the diatoms,
The acids in our bodies, can be related to the acids in thermal vents from archaea,
DNA from extremophiles, from cows, from pigs, from horses, from sponges, from living matter, can be reduced/assembled/dissassebled to its origin.
Proteins in the wild, proteins in us, silica in the wild, silica in us, the rearrangement of carbons in us, due to the sequestration of carbon, dump in ocean, not been there before, or the use of fullerenes, related to melanin, in our brains, in the pineal gland, we can be recreated, by using whatever chemicals, scientists wish to use.
Not just chemicals, the spark of life, the light that causes DNA to rearrange, proteins to fold and unfold, Our DNA has to be mutated, which is done by viruses, bacteriphages, unfolds DNA, then folds in whatever helix is created, using the stuff of the ocean, the stuff of mountains on basic levels.
Hope I made sense here, but, unless we understand what directed/forced evolution is, we cannot see what has been done, and their was a plan to change our DNA.
We looked at the elongation factors, the strands that create others for triple helix formation.
This is where single strands are put into our existing DNA double strands, this then through the unfolding/folding either caused by prions, which are from yeast/fungal reactions, by mutations from bacteriophages*viruses) here believe CMV, SV40, and EPV are used in e-coli K-12 strands, e-coli was the first bacteria studied to use as vectors.
Each system of our body the circulatory, the skeletal, the muscular, the endocrine, the skin system, the respiratory system are each considered body plans, and these scientists, believe that these body plans are all found in the earth, on the earth, above the earth, as in meteorite materials, PAHS, interstellar dust, all relate to humans, we have body plans from these ingredients. Some think that melanin, dark matter is in us is in the universe, comes from outer space.
However, what some scientists have done, is to take DNA from ancient fossils and incorporate and clone to put in us as well, thinking we came from an earlier version of man. Mitochondrial eve and the Eve of the Bible, two different Eves?
Some think so.
Back to the proper use of alchemy, the new products, like palladium, like aragonite, oregonite, ergonite, organite, calcite in newly constructed materials by self assembling of building blocks, those building blocks are what and where we will find this material in us.
It has been reconstructed, maybe by using wrong or predicted alchemy, can be used for sorcery, false information, false constructions, and the material used, say if tin is used where elemental gold should have been used, or bronze instead of aluminum, you get the idea.
It all depends on the philosophical and major plan of all involved in this recreation of life on earth.
Why did this need to be done? Were our genes failing us? This genome was not to fix errors in our DNA or diseases, the main goal was to recreate man any way that worked.
Hence, bringing man into interaction with the computer, with whatever plan that would exclude God or any reference to the supranatural.
This is supernatural, making man part of the technical revolution, part of the singularity, the speeding up of evolution, itself. Evolving man into another being.
We are not into the physics part yet, the protons, the electrons, the photons, the neutrinos, the neutrons, that will make this all part of the "mere matter" of the universe, cosmology.
You can find the journey to the Omega. That is the noosphere. All in an attempt to reach the soul of God.
Like Einstein said, faith is like that.......so are our souls, here is where the spirits configuration, by use of aether, or is it ether, ethereal? the gases of life? or the spirit?
Again, both good/bad, what is/what is created by man.
We are caught in the transition, the transhumanism, now post humanism is upon us.
This is all in an attempt to prove science and God are not compatible.
However, they forgot one thing.....
Science and God might be compatible, True science, true alchemy.
SKytroll
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Post by toni on May 20, 2008 13:26:19 GMT -5
Sky, thank you for that explanation, cause I do appreciate it.
I know (in the future) or I believe (from reading and tv programs) they will be making half and halfs (human with machines).
That's inevidible, because man and science and machines will mix/mutate, and because it CAN be done...and I also can appreciate your thoughts on that this is what's happening now.
Heck...in all reality, for all I know (which is nothing conclusive) they are doing this.
But..."looking at the other side of the coin" and not for any 'arguement - just discussion sake'....which we can do...right now, all the "DNA transfer" is "on the loose" wouldn't you say, with agrobacterium's capacity?
I mean DNA of any, can mutate with another "they're finding" with the simple use of it now in everything practically, which is a possiblity that's what's happened too.
And really I sure don't know, because there could very well be critters innocently transmitting "all they've got plus the gmo's" because they too are feeding and drinking that which might be transferable.
I know there's so much going on out there...and I appreciate your view point, and hope you do mine too.
Thanks again!
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Post by Sidney on May 20, 2008 13:51:15 GMT -5
I appreciate all the explanations, but am not seeing what this has to do with our disease.
There's so much going on regarding our disease, and I'm not even including the CDC-Kaiser P. involvement, because I don't expect anything much to come from their involvement.
I have a lot more faith in organizations working at the grass roots level than I have in the CDC-Kaiser P. "supposed" involvement.
Ah well, I just want someone to identify, treat and cure and let us get on with our lives. (whatever time remains)
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Post by skytroll on May 20, 2008 14:21:02 GMT -5
Calcium calcite. Where do we get Morgellons the worst? brain and ears cartilage. calcium..........nano...........building blocks............. The very process of calcium formation. in skeletal, in bone morrow, the synthetic liquid around bone, the hydrogel. Free energy incorporated into human/animal/insect/plant DNA hydrogen bonds. Storey B. T. 1 Contact Information (1) Center for Research on Reproduction and Women’s Health, University of Pennsylvania Medical Center, 1314 BRB II/III, 421 Curie Blvd., 19104-6142 Philadelphia, PA, USA Received: 10 September 2000 Accepted: 10 April 2001 Abstract Essential to the application of mtDNA diversity as a measure of time elapsed from a common ancestor, is the rate at expressed as base substitution per unit time. Substitutions do not occur randomly. In the human mtDNA control region, three segments have substitution rates that are ‘abnormally’ high: the ‘hypervariable segments (HVS). One can infer a rate averaged over the HVS as an estimate of a constant rate. Horai et al (1995) calculated for HVSI and HVSII rates of 1.0×10−7 and 0.74×10−7 [site-year]−1 based on the split in human and chimpanzee lineages of 4–6 Mya. Tamura and Nei (1993) used 95 sequences for HVSI and HVSII comprising 625 base sites and calculated the rate to be 0.25–1.5×10−7 [site-year]−1 based on the same split in lineages. Howell et al. (1996) and Parsons et al. (1997) made direct measurements of the base substitution rate which yielded values of 2.6×10−6 and 2.5×10−6 [site-year]−1, respectively. The difference between these rates could be reconciled by taking the rate of ca. 1×10−7 as the steady state rate, being the difference between rapid forward and reverse rates, and 2.6×10−6 as the forward rate. The steady state rate is 4% of the forward rate and so is close enough to equilibrium that one may utilize the Boltzmann equation to obtain the Gibbs free energy values, ΔÄG′, for base substitutions. This was done for the base substitutions averaged over a 625 base sequence, comprising most of the D-loop of human mt-DNA, from the data presented by Tamura and Nei (1993). ΔG′ values ranged between 0.2 and 0.7 kcal./mol for the four transitions and 2.3 and 3.1 kcal./mol for the eight transversions. Base substitution ΔG′ distribution plots were obtained for base changes within a 200 base sequence of HSVII of human mtDNA, reported by Jorde et al. (1995), relative to a modified Cambridge Reference Sequence (mCRS) standard for 241 individuals representing European, Asian and African populations. The ΔG′ distribution plot provides a novel way of comparing base changes between populations using a single biochemical parameter. The plots show similarity in mtDNA between European and Asian populations and wider distribution od ΔG′ values in African populations, indicating differences from the European/Asian group and within the African populations. The steady state model underlying the ΔG′ free energy distribution analysis precludes its use in estimating population age. Consideration of the biochemical reactions controlling mtDNA base sequence strongly imply that mtDNA sequence analysis should not be used for such estimations. A key factors controlling mtDna sequence is the steric requirement that D-loop control region mtDNA accommodate the transcription factors polymerases and primers that mediate the transcription and replication of mtDNA, providing selection at the level of these biochemical reactions. This selection is more likely to have induced particular base changes in isolated populations in adaptation to their geographical environments. Considered in this manner, greater mtDNA diversity represents isolation of a given population after the evolution ofHomo Sapiens, while lesser mtDNA diversity represents the older human mainstream population. Keywords Human Mitochondrial DNA - D-Loop Substitutions - mtDNA Free Energy - D-Loop Steric Requirements www.springerlink.com/content/7233746u85v31455/has everything to do with it Sydney/that is why we need to understand transhumanism. they will tell us lies to cover for this. as they always have done. AMA. What for instance originally did they say was the cause of Downs? Incest in families. wrong........... has to do with a third strand of DNA. history shows. Skytroll
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Post by godsgrace on May 20, 2008 23:08:25 GMT -5
yeah, like the Fore INdian tribe contracted Mad Cow because they were cannibals eating each other's brains... they were injected by the Japanese with needles full of dead/sick sheep's brains. A guy from NIH won the nobel prize for figuring out mad cow in the tribe...but only after the Japanese were caught by our military during WWII, and told us what they did in New Guinea. I've said all along... they know what they are doing... problem is we don't know what they are doing... or why. bless godsgrace
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Post by zabrubon on May 21, 2008 18:51:46 GMT -5
Skytroll, what cause the third strand?
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Post by skytroll on May 21, 2008 19:42:05 GMT -5
It was created. Watson never gave up on it. But, it was Crick, Corey, Pauling and Ramachandran and Alex Rich who garnered the polypeptide. Revisiting an Old TriumphCollagen is a very interesting protein.L. Pauling and R. B. CoreyProc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA, 1951, 37, 272"Before Alex Rich and I worked on . . . collagen, we tended to be rather patronizing about it. ‘After all’ we said, ‘there’s no collagen in plants’. In 1955, after we got interested in the molecule we found ourselves saying, ‘Do you realize that one-third of all the protein in your body is collagen?" Francis CrickWhat Mad Pursuit Basic Books, Inc. New York, 1988, p. 67 www.iisc.ernet.in/currsci/sep102004/549.pdfMore on this later. Skytroll
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Post by gregor on May 21, 2008 20:31:52 GMT -5
Brain...yes!
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Post by skytroll on Jul 7, 2008 17:18:33 GMT -5
Think the link between melanin and the pineal, as well as melatonin .....
reference to bugs or electricity.
Skytroll
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Post by toni on Jul 8, 2008 9:25:53 GMT -5
From what I've read on this (the crystals in our pineal glands) because of the piezoelectricity they possess..(which they didn't know about that before)...it seems to me, they're not looking to make anything (at this point) but trying to understand it better so they can/could possibly do something with it when it's understood better.
Which to me, the road their on (in understanding the piezo) capabilities, would be (imo) just like understanding how much they can manipulate mother nature's cells in GMO. Not a good road. I mean I'm sure science and health can benefit in the future with this piezo ability after they understand the full potential, but...we know how man does. Enough isn't ever enough unless they figure out HOW to use it to control.
That's where they always seem to take things imho.
But from all I've read, they're only scratching the surface on this now. Their findings or rather (realization) are the only thing that is new...not the actual findings.
Just like (them) finding a new parasite. The parasite isn't new...them finding/discovering/realizing it - is the only thing that's new.
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Post by greeneyes on Jul 8, 2008 10:56:49 GMT -5
Thanks for bringing this forward skytroll--there is a huge connection--
I agree with Toni; in that their (the powers that were) interest in this is to control us.
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Post by imblownaway on Jul 8, 2008 11:10:13 GMT -5
This is all starting to make sense to me now. Sky you did a good job of explaining this is simple terms. (the use of natural elements) In a very unnatural way. And Steve the sponge makes so much sense now. I have often thought with all the fluoresces and the other weirdness of this that it might have come from the sea. There is so much we don't understand yet about our natural world. Sad to think of how its being manipulated. Are we also talking about the sponge in a way we are all familiar with.? that of absorbing things? Does that explain how our skin absorbs things into it and out of it? I know certain parts of my face will absorb substances and other parts will reject them. at least that's what seems to be taking place. I have also witnessed substances that i applied at an earlier time. come out later. I have a hard time trying to explain what I'm experiencing. But does the sponge also act like a sponge? Oh and Sky. I love the site "Don't chem trail me bro" and the song rocks!
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Post by toni on Jul 8, 2008 11:26:59 GMT -5
Personally, I think there's a great possibility that (Morgellons whatever that is) has caused (possibly) a stimulation of the pineal gland minerals, (we might be manufacturing more of them) for the "unknown Morgellons reason" which those are what are "pizeo" which means those minerals we naturally possess have magnetic properties. The only "unnatural" event "possibly" taking place is the amount being produced...which "then the question is" what is stimulating an overproduction and why?
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Post by godsgrace on Jul 8, 2008 11:57:03 GMT -5
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Post by skytroll on Jul 8, 2008 12:14:53 GMT -5
Abstract The light/dark cycle to which animals, and possibly humans, are exposed has a major impact on their physiology. The mechanisms whereby specific tissues respond to the light/dark cycle involve the pineal hormone melatonin. The pineal gland, an end organ of the visual system in mammals, produces the hormone melatonin only at night, at which time it is released into the blood. The duration of elevated nightly melatonin provides every tissue with information about the time of day and time of year (in animals that are kept under naturally changing photoperiods). Besides its release in a circadian mode, melatonin is also discharged in a pulsatile manner; the physiological significance, if any, of pulsatile melatonin release remains unknown. The exposure of animals including man to light at night rapidly depresses pineal melatonin synthesis and, therefore, blood melatonin levels drop precipitously. The brightness of light at night required to depress melatonin production is highly species specific. In general, the pineal gland of nocturnally active mammals, which possess rod-dominated retinas, is more sensitive to inhibition by light than is the pineal gland of diurnally active animals (with cone-dominated retinas). Because of the ability of the light/dark cycle to determine melatonin production, the photoperiod is capable of influencing the function of a variety of endocrine and non-endocrine organs. Indeed, melatonin is a ubiquitously acting pineal hormone with its effects on the neuroendocrine system having been most thoroughly investigated. Thus, in nonhuman photoperiodic mammals melatonin regulates seasonal reproduction; in humans also, the indole has been implicated in the control of reproductive physiology.
this ties in with the photoreceptors from rhodopsin which is from Archaea which is in algae spores, and in the environment.
photoreceptors and pineal gland.
Circadian clock tied in.........time........
particulate matter is being found. but these are microcrystals......ties in Smart dust particulate matter they call Interstellar dust, but, is man made, is not from outerspace
Thiols, dark matter of life is melanin.
Pineal regulates.......
condensed matter...............
Physics.......
Skytroll
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Post by lilsissy on Jul 8, 2008 12:25:03 GMT -5
Holy cow, and I thought remote control of my computer was annoying, tinyurl.com/5fqoswlil'sissy
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Post by lilsissy on Jul 8, 2008 14:13:11 GMT -5
This ibogaine, voacanga africana seeds kill leishamans parasites, repair's D.N.A. and removes calcium deposits. It crosses the blood brain barrier. I am going to send for samples of voacanga seeds. You must get the light colored seeds. It resets the brain. lil'sissy tinyurl.com/5q2tfl
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Post by lilsissy on Jul 8, 2008 14:39:49 GMT -5
If any one else is interested. These are illegal for consumption but perfectly legal to purchase for planting in your ganden. Man is sometimes called a garden. I put between 6 to about 20 seeds in my garden while having coffee in the morning. That coffee relaxed me with a new sense of awareness. I had to plant these seeds early as the are stimulating. The whole experience renwed me but made me a little Randy. My mind was very sharp for a long time after I planted. Felt like a mind reset button. It's planting time again but only with the light brown seeds the other are just yucky. www.shamanic-extracts.com/xcart/shamanic-products/voacanga-africana-seeds.htmlLil'sissy
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