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Post by toni on Aug 2, 2008 15:40:53 GMT -5
I read much of Dr. Maewan Ho's articles which are all over the internet. I'd written her and asked if she thought Agrobacterium was involved with Morgellons. Then I wrote her again and asked if I could post her email reply on a public chat forum and these are her replies: -------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, please post if it would help. Regards, maewan -------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Susan, A reader with Morgellons has written in to tell us that she has finally cured herself after 5 years by drinking and topically applying green tea to the lesions. Please look out for our press releases. We have wiritten articles on the health benefits of green tea. Please search our website www.i-sis.org.ukRe the cause of Morgellons Disease, we suspect that Agrobacterium and horizontal gene transfer and recombination are involved. But it would take dedicated independent research to prove that. We at ISIS do not have the resources, but we have submitted our article to the relevant government agencies. All the best, maewan
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Post by felixwillford on Aug 2, 2008 15:50:15 GMT -5
Thank you Toni ................going to read on green tea!
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Post by greeneyes on Aug 2, 2008 16:01:36 GMT -5
I have been drinking green tea for many years now--it does have many positive properties--cure is a bit strong.
It has an equalizing affect on the body--some things with caffeine will hit you like a brick--there is more of a balanced affect that comes with the green tea.
greeneyes
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Post by toni on Aug 2, 2008 16:05:21 GMT -5
We'd just got a box of green tea bags too. I've got them steeping right now. hhaahha
I just told Mr Toni, we're drinking green tea whether we like it or not
And yes, I sure agree Greeneyes, I think that "person who'd written Dr. Ho" led her to believe that was the cure. I think Dr. Maewan Ho was only trying to help as she is extremely kind and when I'd asked her in another email if I could post publically her email to me, (I was impressed by her response saying *please post it if it will help)...what a KIND and Caring woman and scientist she is!!!!
And what the heck, it can't hurt...I'm drowning myself in it ;D (not really)
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Post by toni on Aug 2, 2008 16:11:15 GMT -5
I'm certainly wondering about the pictures on her latest book here pictured. That "feather looking thing on the left" aside from the other pics.
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Post by felixwillford on Aug 2, 2008 16:15:34 GMT -5
Why does she call it rainbow?
Remember my video had that rainbow of colors in it!
I'd love to see what is in this book.
I have seen the white feathers too!
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Post by toni on Aug 2, 2008 16:27:58 GMT -5
Oh my goodness....YES your rainbow thing on your video!
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Post by toni on Aug 2, 2008 16:28:17 GMT -5
Oh my goodness....YES your rainbow thing on your video! Now you've got me wondering. I'll ask her.
In fact, I was just going to write her now and ask that since you mentioned it (great thinking Kmarie), and I had a thought - can I have that link to your video to share with her in my email?
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Post by toni on Aug 2, 2008 16:37:19 GMT -5
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Post by toni on Aug 2, 2008 17:11:40 GMT -5
Kmarie, I guess the Rainbow Worm has to do with something else...not the GMO stuff, just from reading more, so I won't write her about that okay? I mean you can, she's very nice.
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Post by zabrubon on Aug 2, 2008 22:04:36 GMT -5
Toni those are great photos you found.
That fruit fly is birthing and it is under waves of contractions. Could that be why parts of my body flutter at times? Maybe a nest of worms or fibers are birthing? I know that sounds far fetched. But I have always wondered what the heck causes every few months that wierd flutter inside of me that only lasts a minute.
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Post by kamefromsky on Aug 2, 2008 23:45:45 GMT -5
This is great stuff. How did you ever find about Doctor Won Man Ho?
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Post by kamefromsky on Aug 2, 2008 23:49:34 GMT -5
Chicago Bonnie - those feelings could be from BOB abuse....kidding. I get those also. Muscle spasm like thing right?
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Post by stevefrey on Aug 3, 2008 0:28:44 GMT -5
"Horizontal gene transfer (HGT), also Lateral gene transfer (LGT), is any process in which an organism incorporates genetic material from another organism without being the offspring of that organism."
Exactly what I am saying with the sponge copying and storing the genetic code of other organisms.
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Post by kamefromsky on Aug 3, 2008 0:49:52 GMT -5
so stevefrey, what you are saying is that agrobacterium is selective and will only gene transfer with the sponges?
what about the DNA of all the other organisms? i'm sure it does horizontal for anything agro can crab.
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Post by stevefrey on Aug 3, 2008 2:35:53 GMT -5
Actually what I am saying is this species of agrobacterium, and most likely it's entire phylum, are a product of the sponge, a replica of a bacteria that the sponge came in contact with at one point in it's existance at which time it copied and stored it's genetic code. Now this sponge or it's decendants can produce replicas of this bacteria, imperfect replicas with diviations significant enough to warrent the creation of new scientific classifications to place these new species. This process of replication continues today in our oceans only science sees it as "associated organisms" of the sponge instead of replicas.
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Post by toni on Aug 3, 2008 8:47:38 GMT -5
From what I've learned about agro, is anything's DNA transferability and mutation are possible. That truly is the beauty of Agrobacterium, but just as much the beauty of it, it's that dangerous if not controlled or perfected. Now the agro in just about everything we eat, may or may not be stable. If it is, then none of the bacteriums used (when the seeds are blasted) would be transferred or rather have that ablitity to transfer when encountering another DNA. But, here's the thing. If Agro became unstable (because of conditions-which is possible and probable), say the sunshine's UV is more or less in a particular area, or the soil conditions contain a more or less mineral content or pH or alot of things really can or could contribute to instability of agrobacterium just in the soil, then "whatever organisms" that are present "could" be then affected in all reality. And of course particular microbes 'who knows' could be caused to mutate into another entire species. Agro is serious stuff. When something like (Agro) can take one DNA of one thing, and cause mutation with another entirely different species DNA ....that's seriously serious. And this stuff is "just now being looked at"....after it's been in use for so many years! hahah That's the joke. When they initially tested agro, (GMO) they did it with only specific's. They didn't test it entirely with how it's used and grown in it's entirety or test with environmental conditions. Big difference - night and day difference - of what could happen. That's why now they are testing it, or actually looking further into this (many institutions and countries goverments have put moratoriums on gmo use now), because testing in a lab (one or only a few things at a time) is so not "what it really is, or how it's been used". So looking at how the horse has been let out of the barn, and now they want the barn door closed to get a better look (with the horse in the barn) well....we gotta cross our fingers, and the entire world needs to, because this stuff is not and cannot be predicted, as some are seeing now. Heck on another post (I'd posted an article that they do admit 10% of the time it's (Agro's use) is not predicated or stable). Are we experiencing, infected with....(and whatever else) that 10% of instability? Who knows. And here's how: lymebusters.proboards39.com/index.cgi?board=rash&action=display&thread=10439
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Post by browncircles on Aug 3, 2008 14:17:31 GMT -5
Tam tam has recommended compresses with green tea recently. Good to know there's some communication going on somewhere.
Guess I'll have to go buy green tea.
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Post by toni on Aug 3, 2008 14:23:02 GMT -5
Thanks, I sure didn't know that, that is good to know.
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Post by liatris on Aug 3, 2008 22:10:52 GMT -5
Toni and all who drink green tea -
Green tea is good stuff but there is a warning. I have not read all of the replies so this may have been mentioned. A friend of mine had her pesticide levels checked before doing a doctor monitored, very intense sauna detox regimen for two weeks (I think) and after the detox, her pesticide levels had really come down. Getting this baseline turned out to be very fortunate. Well, she then started drinking green tea- after several weeks, she had her pesticide levels tested again and her DDT levels were through the roof ! She could not figure out where it came from because everything she ate was organic - except for the green tea. She sent the tea to a lab and that was it - loaded with DDT. If it is NOT organic it likely could be from another country that still uses DDT or other nasty pesticides.
The other thing is that green tea is naturally very high in florine or flouride - can't recall (look it up if you are interested) and it apparently does not take many cups to be getting too much.
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