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Post by zabrubon on Aug 2, 2008 3:24:38 GMT -5
was reading about HIV and found this statement. Conclusion: Treatment of A. lumbricoides with albendazole in HIV-1-coinfected adults resulted in significantly increased CD4 cell counts during 3-month follow-up. Given the high prevalence of A. lumbricoides infection worldwide, deworming may be an important potential strategy to delay HIV-1 progression.
How is it that they talk about deworming in HIV???
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Post by liatris on Aug 2, 2008 6:51:33 GMT -5
Very interesting - did not look it up yet, but I am assuming that A. lumbricoides is a worm. So why do the dopey doctors think nobody could have worms !! And, sure - they think that type of worm is the only one infesting AIDS patients - probably because it is one tha tis very easily identified and they have not found the million others !
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Post by godog on Aug 2, 2008 7:35:54 GMT -5
One thing I've noticed, this may have been posted about already. I can't remember. Anyway, I've noticed some bi-polar meds end in the "azole". Which alot of wormers end in "azole". Also, in some old-time home remedies, they believed worms can make you insane. I believe it too. But I'm wondering if our medical people know that parasites cause mental conditions so they sneak our wormers in, telling us their psych meds. Also, lyme causes bi-polarness. My young friend is bi-polar. Diagnosed, gets meds, gets committed every now and then. But the docs never tell her why she is bi-polar. I mean, she wasn't born that way and she has bigtime skin issues. And new lesions that look kind of morgie-like. They have never talked to her about parasites at all. They don't even mention it and she listens to me but doesn't really believe me when I say she may have parasites, skin or internal ones. I know she thinks she couldn't have them or her doc would've mentioned it. I'm trying to tell her they don't know everything and sometimes don't know anything. I think parasites cause a whole array of medical conditions and either they are just plain ignorant, or they think parasites are their bread and butter and don't want to address the issue. Either way, people aren't being treated for parasites. No one is. And I feel most, if not all of us are walking around with a big load of parasties. I passed a large worm the other day. About 5 inches long. And I have taken alot of wormer in the past not lately. But even if the docs were addressing the issues of worms and parasites, there still is the fact that the parasites and worms and bugs have become resistant to the meds, or anitparsiticals. You can go to the agricultural websites and read about that. It is a big problem, especially for the sheepfarmers. I read somewhere that the medical students only learn about 4 parasites. But there are thousands if not millions. They are so woefully ignorant. I have brought up the subject to m ore than one doc and they always act as if I just said I saw a ufo or bigfoot or something not of this world. I guess parasites aren't of their world anyway. Stupid *###%@!!!!!!!
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Post by gradysghostii on Aug 2, 2008 8:49:54 GMT -5
It's very common for aids patients to be infected with parasites. Besides, you guys are correct, they can barely detect parasites which are behind more deseases that you can possibly imagine.
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Post by zabrubon on Aug 2, 2008 21:52:30 GMT -5
Right all, the doctors are not really qualified to diagnose this worm and or to treat it. So, who then can do it? Who else has the time and expertise? I would so love to see a photo of the HIV Aids worm. Going fishing now to see what else I can find.
Another questions off the subject of worms, well sort of, what is this antrax stuff really all about and why so deadly? When did this all begin. I think I am going to study both the HIV Aids worm and the antrax and see what else I can come up with.
ChicagoBonnie
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Post by zabrubon on Aug 2, 2008 22:32:36 GMT -5
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Post by zabrubon on Aug 2, 2008 22:35:56 GMT -5
Main results Of 6,384 abstracts identified, 15 met criteria for potential inclusion, of which five were eligible for inclusion. In the single randomized controlled trial (RCT) identified, HIV-1 and schistosomiasis co-infected individuals receiving treatment for schistosomiasis had a significantly lower change in plasma HIV-1 RNA over three months (-0.001 log10 copies/mL) compared to those receiving no treatment (+0.21 log10 copies/mL), (p=0.03). Four observational studies met inclusion criteria and all of these suggested a possible beneficial effect of helminth eradication on plasma HIV-1 RNA levels when compared to plasma HIV-1 RNA changes prior to helminth treatment or to helminth-uninfected or persistently helminth-infected individuals. Follow-up duration in these studies ranged from three to six months. The reported magnitude of effect on HIV-1 RNA was variable, ranging from 0.07-1.05 log10 copies/mL. None of the included studies showed a significant benefit of helminth treatment on CD4 decline, clinical staging, or mortality.
Authors' conclusions There are insufficient data available to determine the potential benefit of helminth eradication in HIV-1 and helminth co-infected adults. Data from a single RCT and multiple observational studies suggest possible benefit in reducing plasma viral load. The impact of de-worming on markers of HIV-1 progression should be addressed in larger randomized studies evaluating species-specific effects and with a sufficient duration of follow-up to document potential differences on clinical outcomes and CD4 decline.
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Post by zabrubon on Aug 2, 2008 22:45:18 GMT -5
Co-infection with other pathogens may lead to a more rapid destruction of the host immune system and potentially to earlier progression of HIV-1.
Chronic helminth infection may suppress immune responses directed against HIV-1 and concurrent immune activation may directly lead to more rapid loss of CD4 cells in HIV-1 infected individuals [3].
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Post by felixwillford on Aug 2, 2008 23:04:07 GMT -5
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080802/ap_on_he_me/med_hiv_infectionsI am quite sure they have underestimated the number of "us" too! Kmarie ________________________________________________ CDC understated number of new HIV infections in US By MIKE STOBBE, AP Medical Writer 20 minutes ago ATLANTA - The number of Americans infected by the AIDS virus each year is much higher than the government has been estimating, U.S. health officials reported, acknowledging that their numbers have understated the level of the epidemic. The country had roughly 56,300 new HIV infections in 2006 — about a 40 percent increase from the 40,000 annual estimate used for the past dozen years. The new figure is due to a better blood test and new statistical methods, and not a worsening of the epidemic, officials said. more to read from the link
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Post by zabrubon on Aug 3, 2008 23:42:21 GMT -5
Kmarie, without a doubt we are underestimated in numbers.
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