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Post by liatris on Jul 23, 2008 13:55:49 GMT -5
Really unbelievable and yet, totally believable. I regularly get lilly pad looking "stuff" from my skin and they are tiny and green, as well as a host of other things including flecks that look like mica. Itching has been really awful. Gin and tonic really helps. Gin cause it is made from juniper berries and tonic water has quinine which was used to treat malaria in the past. I guess the splash of ginger ale is useful due to the ginger. My unfortunate friends, (fellow Morgellons sufferers), as well as myself agree that swigs of the drink through out the day really do help. By the way, this is not just drinking. This really helps medicinally because when you drink it, even all day long, there is no "buzz", "high" or anything else and the itching subsides almost immediately. Very interesting - I believe that it has the effect that you state but Juniper berries , although helpful for some things, are also quite toxic to the kidneys - even though they are also used for some kidney problems. Also, as you know, alcohol, is hard on both liver and kidneys. Geez - at leastyou should get a nice buzz. That would space me out badly to drink all day. Especially bad for me is gin - I must be allergic to it because it causes a very noticeable closing of my throat !
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Post by Niels on Jul 23, 2008 15:56:51 GMT -5
i saw somewhere that they do come in 2.4 mil U which would be 4ml... somewhere on some nursing board, where they were discussing bicillin-shots, someone mentioned that you're only supposed to inject up to 3ml per site but that if the prescribing info said it was ok to do all 4ml in one shot... i don't think i could handle that 2ml is plenty unless you think the feeling of someone inflating a balloon inside your ass-cheek is somehow pleasant. (it's really not that bad... no need for icing or mixing in w/ procaine as might happen when you have a fancy clinic, and not your dad, injecting antibiotics in your ass....
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Post by Niels on Jul 23, 2008 16:11:00 GMT -5
FYI, this stuff is cheap ($5.00 for a 4oz tube at Costco Pharmacy) and effective topical: calmoseptine.com/lit/English%20brochure.pdfACTIVE INGREDIENTS: zinc oxide, menthol OTHER INGREDIENTS: thymol, lanolin, sodium bicarbonate phenol, calamine, chlorothymol and glycerin in a suitable ointment base those are some pretty active inactive ingredients... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thymol "Thymol has been found to be useful in controlling varroa mites in bee colonies"... "chlorthymol" a preservative... wonder if it's the same effect as chlorxylenol (aka dettol) and then there's the zinc-depletion aspect of this disease -- so a lot of topical zinc oxide can't hurt... zinc seems to be involved in immune response... Zinc oxide in a mixture with about 0.5% iron(III) oxide (Fe2O3) is called calamine and is used in calamine lotion. There are also two minerals, zincite and hemimorphite, which have been called calamine historically (see: calamine (mineral)). When mixed with eugenol, the mixture is called zinc oxide eugenol and has restorative and prosthodontic applications in dentistry.
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Post by liatris on Jul 25, 2008 8:58:32 GMT -5
i saw somewhere that they do come in 2.4 mil U which would be 4ml... somewhere on some nursing board, where they were discussing bicillin-shots, someone mentioned that you're only supposed to inject up to 3ml per site but that if the prescribing info said it was ok to do all 4ml in one shot... i don't think i could handle that 2ml is plenty unless you think the feeling of someone inflating a balloon inside your ass-cheek is somehow pleasant. (it's really not that bad... no need for icing or mixing in w/ procaine as might happen when you have a fancy clinic, and not your dad, injecting antibiotics in your ass.... I opted for one shot on the left and then one on the right. I went in for the two shots on the same day. Also, it is good to move injections sites around or you could end up injecting an ever-increasing fibrous bump - I did, after 1 1/2 years of it. Trying to get through the tough fibrous bit and into the good, vascular muscle gets hard. If you are getting these Bicillin injections - this is important : The literature clearly states that for the drug to be effective it needs to be a DEEP intramuscular injection. Around that time, I was taking a course on all sorts of injection techniques, so I knew about needle lengths required for the different injections. The needle that came on the syringes I was given were VERY short - way too short to even make it to my muscle - never mind deep IM ! Now, unless you are really skin and bones, I dare say it would be the case with you, too. I cannot recall the length - I am thinking maybe an inch or inch and a quarter is what it was. I had to hold the skin down and compress the fat and then have the nurse give the shot. She understood why I chose to do this and agreed that the needle really was too short. The few times the doctor did it, I did not do that and I got serious eggs (bumps) definitely deposited above the muscle. The place with the least fat is sort of to the side and up - but avoiding the sciatic nerve. You can find drawings of that site - I saw them in a nursing book. If it sits in your fat, it is not going to be very effective. I think that if it gets into the muscle, that it is less likely to be like a balloon inflating. There would be no harm in ordering longer needles to attach.
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