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Post by kamefromsky on Aug 16, 2008 0:01:16 GMT -5
At 12,000 feet roughly. This trail was laid on Wednesday afternoon. It lingered for about 3 hours. By then it was a giant cotton candy like thing in the sky. You can see where and when the plane turned on sprayers. In first two seconds of vid plane is visible. Planes should not be visible if it were a contrail. That night after a very heavy day of spraying, the windshields of cars had very tiny glass fragment/silica sparkling in the night.
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Post by ruth on Aug 16, 2008 0:27:07 GMT -5
a couple weeks ago, i was watching 3 of the silver jets
spraying. one of the jets moved into a front position
and let loose some spray that made all three planes
disappear. i live close to a military "firing center".
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Post by stevefrey on Aug 16, 2008 15:57:55 GMT -5
"Planes should not be visible if it were a contrail."
Really? and why is that? I would just like to see one little bitty piece of evidence that even remotely suggests that what's in that video is NOT A CONTRAIL.
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Post by godsgrace on Aug 16, 2008 22:30:13 GMT -5
steve, why so confrontational all the time? I think he meant that if a jet is high enough in the sky to produce a contrail that it shouldn't really be able to be seen with the naked eye. denial of chemtrails or refusal to believe they are real is futile. It is real.. heard of "project cloverleaf" ?? Do you always refute solid evidence? gg BTW......contrails disappear as the condensation evaporates....chemtrails stay in the sky and then spread out over time.....they look like feathery thin layers of clouds but aren't. People who bury their heads in the sand often have a hard time seeing chemtrails for what they are.
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Post by godsgrace on Aug 16, 2008 23:03:20 GMT -5
Contrails Vs Chemtrails - Facts And Chronology From Kim Weber <ohwarriorgoddess@earthlink.net> 5-23-00 I. Contrail vs. Chemtrail. A. A contrail dispurses. A chemtrail spreads into cloud cover and sometimes has fallout (cob-web like filaments, red/yellow powders, milky-white fluid). tinyurl.com/6r58x8www.carnicom.com/contrails.htmeducate-yourself.org/ct/www.chemtrailcentral.com/ Results 1 - 10 of about 343,000 for chemtrail. (0.17 seconds) 343,000 pages on chemtrails and you are asking for proof that the one in the video isn't a contrail? who's list are you on and how much are they paying you?, I mean REALLY. I didn't realize that there was still one person who didn't know chemtrails were real... Now, Morgellon's I understand, is a different story ;D peace out girlscout
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Post by stevefrey on Aug 17, 2008 22:00:50 GMT -5
I'm not confrontational Grace, I just believe in accuracy, and the idea that actual facts should be considered when judging the validity of a claim rather than opinion or myth. Reality is often obscured when emotion, rather than facts, are the basis for people's beliefs. This may not be the case with all chemtrail theory supporters but many believe that whenever a trail of condensation is left in the wake of passing Jet it is the result of intentional, covert, aerosol spraying for whatever reason and this just simply is not true, in fact the single most important belief that the whole chemtrail premise hinges on is a myth, and thats the idea that actual "contrails" do not linger in the atmosphere. Where is the scientific evidence to support this idea? Contrails are very similar to seeing ones "breath" on a cold winter night, the difference is altitude, where jets are flying the air is very cold and the condensation freezes.
The are three essentials for "contrail" formation, 1. hot jet exhaust, 2. Ambient air close to saturation with water 3. Altitude sufficient to provide temperature for condensation to freeze. Obviously all three of these are variable at any given time so it becomes easy to understand why there is variance in contrails and their dynamics.
If a contrail is formed in air of low humidity, the ice crystals will rapidly evaporate, but if the air is saturated enough, the crystals will persist for some time. When winds aloft are calm enough, the contrail will keep its shape, if the wind is strong enough, it will spread out and possibly form a cirrus type cloud.
Under special conditions of higher humidity, the ice crystals may grow from 10-20 microns in size up to 500 microns or larger. At this size, their weight can cause them to fall up to 10,000 feet per hour. Normally, the ice crystals will reach an altitude where they evaporate. This same phenomenon occurs in natural clouds, especially cirrus.
Since contrails are composed of water in the form of ice crystals, and they often eventually form cirrus type clouds, their effects are the same as natural clouds.
Any meteorologist can verify this data, but they're probably all part of the master plan i suppose since their professional opinion in the discipline in which they were schooled apparently means nothing to those in support of the chemtrail theory.
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Post by godsgrace on Aug 17, 2008 22:57:37 GMT -5
so, what you are saying is that there is a half a million people in the world who are just conspiring stories?
They are just making up the fact that there are countless jets that fly overhead leaving thick heavy CHEMTRAILS in the sky that do not disappear?
I'm no dummy. I have seen a jet with a real contrail...I've watched that contrail "disappear" in the sky behind the jet. It's like God has an eraser and he is erasing it in the sky...that's what I used to say as a kid, watching contrails from jets in the sky.
Well, now it is 40 years later and what I am seeing is not contrails, they don't go away...they spread out...like clouds.
I have several photos of heavy chemtrail sprayings over my house. Big X's in the sky....areas of the chemtrails "missing"...like holes in the trail. A pilot did an interview and said the only way that could happen was if a pilot cut the engine off/on repeatedly and stated that no pilot is crazy enough to try that.
Morgellon's came from chemtrails, but they don't exist?
are you for real?
True Story:
I walked out of my house on day and my light blue camry was covered in brown grease. I was mad. I took it to the car wash and washed it but not before noticing that this grease was everywhere. In the road, on neighbor's car, our roof's, our gardens and was even "splashed" on the side of my garage. I couldn't figure it out and neither could anyone else.
I didn't think much of it after that. I just cleaned what I could off the house and hosed the yard.
I moved out 2 months later but my friend remained in the house.
I was already ill but everytime I went to that house, I got ill...severely.
diarrhea, vomiting, flushing, fainting. It was bad.
anyone else who got close to any of it that was left there, became ill but not as severe as I.
I was researching chemtrails to try and debunk the person who originally told me of this "conspiracy theory" as I originally thought of it.
What I found was loads of info and that there are 3 types of substances coming from these planes. One is brown and greasy.
When I heard William Thomas say that on his video, I almost threw up. He also said there is a red or yellow powdery substance as well as the spider web like fibers.
There is a lot of research and evidence of chemtrails out there. Hard core evidence.
As far as I'm convinced, I lived it so for me it is real. Very real and very scary.
I suffered (Mychronic fatigue syndromeMyalgic Encephalomyelitis), Fibromyalgia ( from bilogical weapons)got sick from being near the brown greasy chemtrail material that covered my whole neighborhood and now I have Morgellon's.
There is a huge conspiracy going on right in front of our eyes but for some reason we refuse to believe it.
vaccines-SV-40 tainted polio mycoplasma-biological weapons causing the new and emerging illneses Lyme disease chemtrails morgellon's
I'm seeing another pattern here.
You are convinced chemtrails aren't real. I'm convinced they are. King Me.
your move
godsgrace
PS, yes, many of the meteorologists know of this as well as military officials and airline supervisors/managers. I have articles of interviews with people in these professions. It's not just a bunch of bored crazy people making up stories because they have nothing better to do. ;D
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Post by ruth on Aug 28, 2008 11:36:40 GMT -5
i don't really care if these sky patterns are called contrails
or chemtrails. i see planes patterning and covering
the sky. i see people with increased "allergy" symptoms
at the grocery and discount stores i service when
the "contrails" are visible.
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Post by godsgrace on Aug 28, 2008 16:35:32 GMT -5
;D
gracie
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