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Post by lilsissy on Aug 19, 2008 1:01:46 GMT -5
I know many here have already tested positive for pseudomonas, You may want to see where you cyanide levels are? erj.ersjournals.com/cgi/content/abstract/32/2/329Cut from above Pseudomonas aeruginosa produces the potent toxin cyanide under strictly microaerobic conditions. Jennifer
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Post by lilsissy on Aug 19, 2008 1:06:54 GMT -5
I don't know how many of you remember but there also is an incomplete form of cyctic fibrosis I have talked about in the past and suspect many of us may have this.
Lilsissy
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Post by robertalouise26 on Aug 19, 2008 1:55:32 GMT -5
Dear one does this include pseudomonas aerugosa? I guess it does. Well since I slipped on the kitchen floor on June 2nd I have been diagnosed as having rheumatoid arthritis I have been in absolutely terrible pain. Do you think that these things could be related?I can not understand how it came upon me over night Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much for your post. Love and best wishes. Roberta.
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Post by lilsissy on Aug 19, 2008 2:14:19 GMT -5
Yes I believe that this is the same
Pseudomonas aeruginosa produces the potent toxin cyanide under strictly microaerobic conditions. Evidence of bacterial cyanogenesis in the CF lung was investigated in the present study by measuring sputum cyanide concentrations.
Nice to hear from you Roberta!!!
You may want to print this article out for your Doctor .
Love you,
Jennifer
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Post by lilsissy on Aug 19, 2008 2:28:41 GMT -5
This is interesting Silicone posioning produces cyanide as well. Hmmmm www.hyperbaric02therapy.com/HBOT%20&%20silcone.htm cut from above, This form of cyanide toxin induced metabolic impairment in the brain, inhibits production of adenosine triphosphate (ATP), adequate supplies of which are required to avert lipofuscin accumulations, to promote phagocytosis and for natural detoxification. An abnormal sodium and potassium ion interchanges. Jennifer
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Post by lilsissy on Aug 19, 2008 2:36:45 GMT -5
This is going somewhere, ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login.jsp?url=/iel2/846/3080/00096219.pdf?arnumber=96219cut, Summary:The application of phthalocyanine molecules in molecular electronic devices is discussed. The electrooptical properties of phthalocyanine molecules are based on rapid and controllable intramolecular charge transfer. The charge transfer causes changes in molecular polarizability, which is responsible for molecular optical response. The charge transfers can be very rapid, less than a picosecond, and require small amounts of energy, on the order of a few kT. A few examples illustrate some novel properties of phthalocyanine molecules for applications in systems that utilise a neural network concept So this is being utilized? ?
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Post by lilsissy on Aug 19, 2008 2:42:29 GMT -5
These remind me of the alpha beta stacked rings that allow for remote sensing, For here again www.hyperbaric02therapy.com/HBOT%20&%20silcone.htmSome patients with breast implants, started exhibiting symptoms as shown by Enzyme linked Sero Assay (Elisa) test to posses elevated IgG, IgA, IgM, and IgE silicone antibodies. In addition to reactions from silicone implants, the polyurethane implants shells themselves are now known to break down under the metabolic activity and produce 2,4, toluenediamine and 2,6 toluenediamine, both of which are carcinogenic and able to react with the neurominic acids to produce phthalocyanine dichloride, which in turn reacts with silicone to produce a precursor to silicone “ stacked rings” phthalocyanines. So cyanines are being used?
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Post by skytroll on Aug 19, 2008 13:14:49 GMT -5
This relates to pi.... Barium is in the trails..... "Abstract : It is shown that the multi-peaked cyclic voltammograms for silicon phthalocyanine monomer-oligomer sets may be predicted from initial state molecular orbital energy levels if field shifts are used to allow for the charges of the anions and cations. The theory should have broad application for the understanding of the redox properties of other cofacial macrocyclic ring systems and the conductivity of doped cofacial polymers. The molecular orbital energy levels also produce the features of the optical and photoemission spectra of silicon phthalocyanine monomer-oligomer sets in the HOMO-LUMO energy regions, showing the importance of direct pi overlap. Descriptors : *PHTHALOCYANINES, *VISIBLE SPECTRA, *SILICON COMPOUNDS, *OXIDATION REDUCTION REACTIONS, *PHOTOELECTRON SPECTRA, CATIONS, CONDUCTIVITY, ELECTROCHEMISTRY, MONOMERS, ABSORPTION SPECTRA, VOLTAMMETRY, ENERGY BANDS, ANIONS, CYCLIC COMPOUNDS, DIMERS, MOLECULAR ENERGY LEVELS, MOLECULAR ORBITALS. Subject Categories : POLYMER CHEMISTRY ATOMIC AND MOLECULAR PHYSICS AND SPECTROSCOPY'..... oai.dtic.mil/oai/oai?verb=getRecord&metadataPrefix=html&identifier=ADA147161====================== these "stacked rings" phthalocyanines, makes me wonder about cyanosis. Do any of you have blue streaks on say arms, chests etc? this could be the cyanosis, which is related to heart activity as well, but, if silicon can form as stated above, then the precrusor would be the phthaloxyanines? Phthaloxyanine? possible from "Carbon fibers"..... tinyurl.com/6plcacimages.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6502419-0-display.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6502419. html&h=300&w=374&sz=41&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=LVRWozlcmfzaVM:&tbnh= 98&tbnw=122&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dphthaloxyanine%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den% 26sa%3DN I keep coming back to the carbon fibers....... or.........glass fiber reinforced plastic? www.solarnavigator.net/composites/glass_fibre_reinforced_plastic.htmThe polar filament is important is this somehow lilsissy, polar filament, what is it and what does it do? on the natural side of polar filaments? from microsporidia: Factors involved in microsporidian spore polar filament (infection apparatus) extrusion. He Q, Leitch GJ, Visvesvara GS, Wallace S; American Society for Microbiology. General Meeting. Abstr Gen Meet Am Soc Microbiol. 1993; 93: 27 (abstract no. B-6). Morehouse Sch. Med., Atlanta, GA. Microsporidia are obligate intracellular protozoan parasites. An in vitro polar filament extrusion assay was developed using spores from a strain of Encephalitozoon hellem isolated from an AIDS patient and cultured in a monkey kidney cell line. Incubation in a medium resembling extracellular fluid resulted in polar filament extrusion by some spores. This extrusion was stimulated by H2O2, urea and proteolytic enzymes (trypsin and papain), but not chitinase. Both spontaneous and stimulated germination were reduced by removal of calcium or sodium from the medium. The calcium channel blocker, nifedipine, the microtubule disruptor, demicolcine, the microfilament disruptor, cytochalasin D, and the antifungal agent, itraconazole, all inhibited spontaneous, and to a lesser degree, stimulated filament extrusion. These results are consistent with spore germination involving an alteration in spore coat integrity, perhaps associated with an influx of medium sodium, an intraspore calcium signal, and a requirement for intact cytoskeletal elements. Publication Types: * Meeting Abstracts Keywords: * AIDS-Related Opportunistic Infections * Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome * Animals * Calcium Channel Blockers * Communicable Diseases * Cytochalasin D * Encephalitozoon * Humans * In Vitro * Infection * Itraconazole * Microsporidia * Nifedipine * Spores gateway.nlm.nih.gov/MeetingAbstracts/ma?f=102202529.htmlcyanines and polar filaments? this tie in the sponges?.......... www.unige.ch/cyberdocuments/theses2001/KaloulisK/these_body.htmlSkytroll
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Post by Jill on Aug 19, 2008 19:39:15 GMT -5
Good thread, Lilsissy- Keep in mind MTBE/TBA and the remediation of same - I'm coming across amazing info that ties the products to what we are finding in our bodies- You mention Pseudomonas aeruginosa? Google- MTBE and Pseudomonas aeruginosa - or putida for that matter- see that they are using these bacteria and a whole lot more for remediation of the MTBE's and other oil/chemical spills. It ties- connects- I'm sure of it. I found a map - will post when I re- find it- where almost 500,000 sites have been 'found' with the MTBE's leaking into the ground water and in need of remediation. Heaven only know which is worse. Maybe the combination of the MTBE/TBA and the various products that they use. I thought it was just the PM 1 - but I'm finding lots of other patents for the remediation. All contain various bacteria. More later. Just wanted to interject a thought. Jill PS It occurred to me- that DIATOMS - those multi shaped (thinking of HEX shaped) darlings- are what MTBE (a product of OIL) is made of. YES- MTBE's contain DIATOMS- are made up of DIATOMS! AND from the WIKI Diatoms (Greek: äéÜ (dia) = "through" + ôÝìíåéí (temnein) = "to cut", i.e., "cut in half") are a major group of eukaryotic algae, and are one of the most common types of phytoplankton. Most diatoms are unicellular, although they can exist as colonies in the shape of filaments or ribbons (e.g. Fragillaria), fans (Meridion), zigzags (Tabellaria), or stellate colonies (Asterionella). A characteristic feature of diatom cells is that they are encased within a unique cell wall made of silica (hydrated silicon dioxide) called a frustule. These frustules show a wide diversity in form, some quite beautiful and ornate, but usually consist of two asymmetrical sides with a split between them, hence the group name. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatom My point- the DIATOMS are already present in the MTBE/TBA mix prior to the addition of the bacteria- via remediation.... BACTERIA for thought....
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Post by godsgrace on Aug 19, 2008 19:45:33 GMT -5
you girls blow my mind ;D I love everyone of you gracie
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Post by gradysghostii on Aug 19, 2008 20:02:13 GMT -5
Let's not forget Pseudomonas Putida is a plastic maker too, something Hildy reports, I wonder if putida loose in our bodies would cause morgs?
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Post by lilsissy on Aug 19, 2008 20:12:24 GMT -5
We have a zebra mussel problem here in Michigan and they use Pseudomonas to clean them off, Grady. I don't know if putita has been used to but maybe.
I see this method is being used in various areas across the United States.
Lilsissy
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Post by Jill on Aug 19, 2008 21:18:47 GMT -5
Grady, Here is a patent for MTBE remediation- WITH - Pseudomonas putidaMethod for the degradation of MTBE and TBA Document Type and Number:United States Patent 7341863 Abstract:A method for the degradation of methyl-tertiary-butyl-ether (MTBE) and tertiary-butanol (TBA) using a mixture of Pseudomonas putida is described. The method enables almost complete remediation of MTBE and TBA in situ in contaminated water and/or soil www.freepatentsonline.com/7341863.html Like I said- there are many patents for this stuff and none of them good in terms of content. Lilsissy- I'll see what I can find re: the Zebra mussel clean up- Will post when I find something. Jill Thanks Godsgrace- love you too!
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Post by Jill on Aug 19, 2008 21:35:48 GMT -5
Check this out- MTBE Remediation Handbook Types of tracers include dyes, salts, radioisotopes, istopes, fluroinated organic acids, halocarbons and bio-organisms. Commonly used tracers include.........Rhodomine WT (a red fluorescent dye) and methane. tinyurl.com/5lzujp
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Post by kiki on Aug 19, 2008 23:37:04 GMT -5
Skytroll you asked about blue streaks on body. This may not be related but anytime I used a tanning bed I turned blue right after I got out. The owner of the gym said it was because I worked out before tanning and my blood was oxygenated? but it happened even if I didnt work out. It was creepy.
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Post by Jill on Aug 20, 2008 8:07:57 GMT -5
To me, because I've been researching the MTBE/TBA's and the remediation products- I see ALL the symptoms/conditions of the 'Morgellons' caused by these products- Case in point- you mention CF: another component- MTBE/TBA remediation - PM 1 - per Whole Genome analysis ** Burkholderia From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Burkholderia Burkholderia fungorum- s Species- - Genus- Burkholderia-Excerpt from the Wiki: Burkholderia is a genus of proteobacteria probably best-known for its pathogenic members: Burkholderia mallei, responsible for glanders, a disease that occurs mostly in horses and related animals; Burkholderia pseudomallei, causative agent of melioidosis; and Burkholderia cepacia, an important source of pulmonary infection in people with cystic fibrosis (CF). Lil sissy- Burkholderia- is a component of PM 1- used to REMEDIATE MTBE- Also- Google Agrobacterium and Cystic Fibrosis-
Agrobacterium is ALSO IN PM 1lymebusters.proboards39.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=rash&thread=10151&post=114149
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Post by godsgrace on Aug 20, 2008 8:44:21 GMT -5
tinyurl.com/6rt7c5lookie here a password required to look at some...why is that? why are we allowed to see some and not others? what are they really doing? I searched Burkholderia fungorum gracie
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Post by godsgrace on Aug 20, 2008 8:49:35 GMT -5
The Burkholderia xenovorans strain LB400 (formerly known as B. fungorum) is the best aerobic PCB degrader yet discovered. It oxidizes more than 20 PCB congeners including some with 4,5 and 6 chlorine substitutions on the biphenyl rings (Bedard et. al., 1986). It was isolated from a PCB-containing landfill near in upper New York State by a research team at General Electric Research.
you don't say?
gg
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Post by godsgrace on Aug 20, 2008 8:53:01 GMT -5
The genome sequence has allowed us to begin to understand the pathways it uses for PCB degradation and by using genome arrays, we found not one but three pathways for degradation or the benzoate intermediates from biphenyl oxidation (Denef et.al., 2004). Besides degradation of one of the most difficult to degrade and widespread pollutants, the Burkholderia group to which this strain belongs is also important to the soil’s carbon economy and, since it fixes N2 gas, aids plant CO2 fixation.
This strain is known by many names. Originally is was described as Pseudomonas cepacia and later, in succession, Burkholderia cepacia, Burkholderia spp., Burkholderia fungorum and now, the first time that its validly described, as Burkholderia xenovorans (Goris et.al., 2004). The original strain is deposited in the USDA ARS Culture Collection in Peoria, Ill, under its patent collection, Accession no. NRRL B-18064. This clone was the one sequenced. We do know the genome does exhibit transpositions readily in culture.
interesting
gg
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Post by godsgrace on Aug 20, 2008 8:57:43 GMT -5
and Grady, here...pseudomonas putida
Pseudomonas putida CA-3 is a bioreactor isolate capable of degrading the toxic aromatic pollutant styrene. However, in addition to styrene mineralisation to CO2 and H2O), via acetyl-CoA, this strain is also capable of redirecting styrene catabolism to biodegradable plastic production, (i.e. Poly-hydroxyalkanoate), under appropriate growth conditions. This capability has considerable biotechnological significance as it facilitates the conversion of toxic waste to an eco-friendly, value added product. The current project seeks to enhance the ability of P. putida CA-3 to degrade styrene by investigating the flux through the pathway, identifying bottlenecks and applying recombinant DNA approaches to overcome them. Research outputs from this study will include recombinant strains with enhanced styrene degradation profiles and increased PHA accumulation capacities.
used for the same reason?
recombinant DNA technology
godsgrace
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