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Post by imblownaway on Oct 30, 2008 13:18:32 GMT -5
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Post by mfromcanada on Oct 30, 2008 13:41:05 GMT -5
imblownaway, great article again says that this can infect humans and can be found in the blood..
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Post by Jill on Nov 1, 2008 7:24:05 GMT -5
publications.nigms.nih.gov/findings/feb03/seeds.htmlSo far, Goodner and his students have unearthed one potentially interesting set of genetic instructions within the Agrobacterium genome, those that direct the production of powerful chemicals called polyketides and nonribosomal peptides. These bacterially produced poisons are known to serve as signals between interacting species, and they can be lethal to a microbe's enemies: other bacteria, fungi, or plants. Several medicines, such as the antibiotic erythromycin and the cancer drug doxorubicin, are polyketides. Getting a handle on the roles polyketides might play in making Agrobacterium a versatile and effective infectious agent may reveal important details about the pathogen and point to ideas for new therapies. ?
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Post by mfromcanada on Nov 1, 2008 10:49:28 GMT -5
jjill, perhaps what you are saying is why so many of us with morgellons don't get sick with anything else anymore, we have a built in antibiotic along with the agrobacterium we are infected with.
The signal thing reminds me of the "quorum sensing" tamtam talked about.
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Post by ruth on Nov 1, 2008 10:59:59 GMT -5
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Post by Jill on Nov 1, 2008 12:23:34 GMT -5
MFR,
I was mulling over the statement by Goodner, and can't quite determine how it would/could relate to humans with Agrobacterium.
It is lethal, per Goodner, to a microbes' enemies but does that mean that it is helpful to the Agro or us? (if we have Agro in our bodies)
And yes, the thought had crossed my mind that the reason we don't get the 'big' germs is due to some process such as the one that Goodner mentions (polyketides). Still, it seems that the same process is killing us in another way/s.
What is your take on the article?
Ruth,
I stopped using the Canola - looks like I have to add a few other things to the list. Corn? NO WAY - they tainted our corn?
Thanks for the link
Jill
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Post by ruth on Nov 26, 2008 12:49:06 GMT -5
www.i-sis.org.uk/agrobacteriumAndMorgellons.phpIn other words, Agrobacterium persisting in transgenic plants released into the environment has the potential to spread new diseases, and to plants that normally would not be infected by the disease agents. At the time, the researchers did not know that Agrobacterium would also infect animals and humans, and could spread new diseases to them as well. Have these warnings been heeded by other researchers? There is no evidence they have been taken on board. Agrobacterium has since been shown to transform at least 80 different non-plant species including yeasts and other fungi, algae, mammalian and human cells, also the gram positive bacterium Streptomyces lividans. In a recent review, the researchers stated [14]: “Future research has to show whether Agrobacterium-mediated transformation contributed to horizontal gene transfer between microorganisms in the rhizosphere.” But there is already evidence suggesting that Agrobacterium can indeed engage in horizontal gene transfer with a wide range of bacteria in the soil. (For more on horizontal gene transfer see [19] Horizontal Gene Transfer from GMOs Does Happen, SiS 38)
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Post by mfromcanada on Nov 28, 2008 11:28:54 GMT -5
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