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Sept 4, 2011 19:53:58 GMT -5
Post by itchin4answers on Sept 4, 2011 19:53:58 GMT -5
Hi Lynn, Not sure if you have done this checklist for Lyme; www.lymedisease.org/resources/pdf/Symptomchecklist%20burrascano.pdfIf I were you I would pursuit a Lyme test, that's my plan anyway. When I first came down with the morgie symptoms 7 years ago I researched Lyme & had almost all the symptoms, particularly neurological. I was treated with IV antibiotics in 2005/06 for Rickettsia & the doctor did do a Lyme test, but unfortunately it was negative because I was on antibiotics. That doctor at the time put me in the category of MS because of the symptoms I had. Then as time went on the psychiatric community got their hands on me & the delusional diagnoses came thick & fast. For myself, to have a positive diagnosis for Lyme would really help me move on with my life. I consider myself to be late stage Lyme, but then we'll have to see IF the doctor will agree to the test. Sorry you haven't been feeling too well & I have been thinking of you! Also the other day I wasn't able to access this forum & I noticed that you mentioned it. Glad to know I wasn't the only one. Take care Love itchin
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Sept 5, 2011 2:13:35 GMT -5
Post by Lynn on Sept 5, 2011 2:13:35 GMT -5
Hi Itchen
Oh my. I have had almost all of them over a eight year period if not longer. Just two years of the bugs, specks, and amber crystals. I have fought and have everything low key now, but have not won the battle. This may be why. Thank you for the link.
I had the Bells Palsy which may be separate when I was 14 years old. Woke up one morning with my whole left side of my face dead. Took me over a year to get back most of my muscle movement with no help from a Dr. My dad would not allow it.
Later during my adult life a Dr. brought it up that I had facial muscle damage from Bells Palsy. That was the first time I had a name to go with what had happened. He was so surprised at the amount of recovery I had in facial movement. Said I was the first he had ever seen with that much damage recovery. I did not tell him that I had to get the movement back to avoid beatings from my dad for having a paralyzed face. Which I never got the beatings because I became very good at hiding the dead side of my face while I ferociously worked at gaining back control. I am so lucky that I was so scared of my dad that it drove me to push my face into almost total recovery.
In Light Lynn
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Sept 5, 2011 2:28:32 GMT -5
Post by itchin4answers on Sept 5, 2011 2:28:32 GMT -5
Hi Lynn, Gosh, I don't know what to say, you really have had a terrible time, I'm so sorry Lynn. To think you could have had Lyme the majority of your life & never known. I think that could be the case for a lot of us, but only now figuring it out...duh. For me, I think I've had to live this disease to understand it. I researched my nut off at the start, well that just made my brain worse & I had no idea what was what. I was literally insane, awful place to be, but at times it was peaceful. I've only just watched this youtube & still trying to digest, though I think this information opens the door to answer a lot of my questions & hopefully others, if they don't already know. I feel this could kinda explain how Morgs came about. I think Morgellons is the new Lyme co-infection, sort of goes without saying really. Also I've put a link (at the bottom) that was sent to me by a friend, though I was moving at the time & couldn't absorb it, still trying too...lol. So how about chronic Lyme disease? Can it be explained by a biofilm formation of Borrelia burgdorferi? If yes, the possibility that Borrelia burgdorferi is capable of forming a biofilm can change the way we think about Lyme disease, especially in patients where it seems to be a persistent disease, despite long term antibiotic treatment11. The elucidation of the molecular mechanisms responsible for the switch from free-living growth to a biofilm phenotype, with the development of antibiotic resistance, should provide novel therapeutic targets in chronic Lyme disease. tinyurl.com/3qz2vy2Abstract: The ability of Borrelia burgdorferi to attach to and invade human fibroblasts was investigated by scanning electron and confocal microscopy. By scanning electron microscopy, B. burgdorferi were tightly adherent to fibroblast monolayers after 24-48 h but were eliminated from the cell surface by treatment with ceftriaxone (1 microgram/mL) for 5 days. Despite the absence of visible spirochetes on the cell surface after antibiotic treatment, viable B. burgdorferi were isolated from lysates of the fibroblast monolayers. B. burgdorferi were observed in the perinuclear region within human fibroblasts by laser scanning confocal microscopy. Intracellular spirochetes specifically labeled with monoclonal anti-flagellin antibody were also identified by fluorescent laser scanning confocal microscopy. These observations suggest that B. burgdorferi can adhere to, penetrate, and invade human fibroblasts in organisms that remain viable. tinyurl.com/3ugkc4u
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Sept 5, 2011 7:38:19 GMT -5
Post by Baraka Obam on Sept 5, 2011 7:38:19 GMT -5
Cradle cap is your first association with the yellow greasy fluid, it goes away, WHY DOES IT GO AWAY, more and more children are being born with this and more and more adults are fighting long term cases of it.
Doctors do not know what causes it, Bio film hmmmmmmm, I have seen this yellow fluid pour from lesion/TUMORS.
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Sept 5, 2011 10:38:05 GMT -5
Post by Lynn on Sept 5, 2011 10:38:05 GMT -5
Hi Itchen
I hear there are peoples with Morgellons without the Lyme. I think the people who run the Tulsa study say this amount others also. I just wonder if Lyme is always a starter of this and those who tested negative on the test have a very low form of Lyme and it was at a down time where it could not be detected??? If Lyme has a flux just as Thyroid and blood pressure does. In fact even bladder infection can come out negative if you have drowned the infection with water or cranberry juice, but still have the infection. Wonder if all the fight we do can make Lyme go into stealth mode so that when you get involved in testing it comes out negative.
In Light Lynn P.S. No I am glad I have almost all muscle movement in my face. It made it so I could do a neat trick. I can make the right side of my face smile while I can make the left side of my face frown. Pretty neat....lol. I know I am weird; I just embrace it. lol.
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Sept 5, 2011 10:45:05 GMT -5
Post by Lynn on Sept 5, 2011 10:45:05 GMT -5
Hi Baraka
I think the government experimented way before that, but I think that is when they got brave enough to step up their agenda and really go for it. I shared a friend with my little sister who was on disability because of agent orange. He lost all his hair after he was hit and it did a lot of physical damage as well as the health issues. I am not sure why they or how he got them to do what he did next, but it was not a real smart move. They paid him and maybe still do over 4,000 a month back in the 80s but for that large monthly disability check he had to sign papers allowing them to try and cure him using nucular drugs.
I also being naive and stupid hung out with my little sister at this mans place to play computer games and I bet it was not safe to be around him if anything was exuding from his pores from the nucular drugs. Sorry do not know how to spell Nuclular.
In Light Lynn
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Sept 5, 2011 12:05:05 GMT -5
Post by violet on Sept 5, 2011 12:05:05 GMT -5
Hi Itchen I hear there are peoples with Morgellons without the Lyme. I think the people who run the Tulsa study say this amount others also. I just wonder if Lyme is always a starter of this and those who tested negative on the test have a very low form of Lyme and it was at a down time where it could not be detected??? If Lyme has a flux just as Thyroid and blood pressure does. In fact even bladder infection can come out negative if you have drowned the infection with water or cranberry juice, but still have the infection. Wonder if all the fight we do can make Lyme go into stealth mode so that when you get involved in testing it comes out negative. In Light Lynn P.S. No I am glad I have almost all muscle movement in my face. It made it so I could do a neat trick. I can make the right side of my face smile while I can make the left side of my face frown. Pretty neat....lol. I know I am weird; I just embrace it. lol. And embrace it, you do! And all of life, actually. I love your spirit, Lynn. Can you make your eyebrows do a wave, like Jack Black?! :-) Have you ever seen him do that? Soooooo funny--and neat that he can do it.
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Sept 5, 2011 12:06:08 GMT -5
Post by violet on Sept 5, 2011 12:06:08 GMT -5
Hi Lynn, Gosh, I don't know what to say, you really have had a terrible time, I'm so sorry Lynn. To think you could have had Lyme the majority of your life & never known. I think that could be the case for a lot of us, but only now figuring it out...duh. For me, I think I've had to live this disease to understand it. I researched my nut off at the start, well that just made my brain worse & I had no idea what was what. I was literally insane, awful place to be, but at times it was peaceful. I've only just watched this youtube & still trying to digest, though I think this information opens the door to answer a lot of my questions & hopefully others, if they don't already know. I feel this could kinda explain how Morgs came about. I think Morgellons is the new Lyme co-infection, sort of goes without saying really. Also I've put a link (at the bottom) that was sent to me by a friend, though I was moving at the time & couldn't absorb it, still trying too...lol. So how about chronic Lyme disease? Can it be explained by a biofilm formation of Borrelia burgdorferi? If yes, the possibility that Borrelia burgdorferi is capable of forming a biofilm can change the way we think about Lyme disease, especially in patients where it seems to be a persistent disease, despite long term antibiotic treatment11. The elucidation of the molecular mechanisms responsible for the switch from free-living growth to a biofilm phenotype, with the development of antibiotic resistance, should provide novel therapeutic targets in chronic Lyme disease. tinyurl.com/3qz2vy2Abstract: The ability of Borrelia burgdorferi to attach to and invade human fibroblasts was investigated by scanning electron and confocal microscopy. By scanning electron microscopy, B. burgdorferi were tightly adherent to fibroblast monolayers after 24-48 h but were eliminated from the cell surface by treatment with ceftriaxone (1 microgram/mL) for 5 days. Despite the absence of visible spirochetes on the cell surface after antibiotic treatment, viable B. burgdorferi were isolated from lysates of the fibroblast monolayers. B. burgdorferi were observed in the perinuclear region within human fibroblasts by laser scanning confocal microscopy. Intracellular spirochetes specifically labeled with monoclonal anti-flagellin antibody were also identified by fluorescent laser scanning confocal microscopy. These observations suggest that B. burgdorferi can adhere to, penetrate, and invade human fibroblasts in organisms that remain viable. tinyurl.com/3ugkc4uItchin, this is a really good find you've posted here.
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Sept 5, 2011 15:36:10 GMT -5
Post by Baraka Obam on Sept 5, 2011 15:36:10 GMT -5
Lynn, doesn't it make you wonder why in the world would they need to use nuclear radiation on a chemical issue.
AGENT ORANGE, I do not think you understand what I am saying, AGENT ORANGE WAS A LIE, the dioxin may have furthered the biological agent already inside the soldiers to do more damage, but the real problem was not AGENT ORANGE, it was a disease a biological agent the soldiers were affected with.
That same biological agent was given to the women in the village by Vietnam Veterens in Korea and soldiers that never served in Vietnam then contracted it.
How many men served in Vietnam, how many in Germany, how many in Korea, HOW MANY came home because they shared women in brothels all over the world. The sailore are crying now that they got agent orange on them too, sure they did, sailors were let off ships in every filthy hole all over the world, they are lucky to have ONLY morgellons.
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Sept 5, 2011 18:46:46 GMT -5
Post by itchin4answers on Sept 5, 2011 18:46:46 GMT -5
Hi Itchen I hear there are peoples with Morgellons without the Lyme. I think the people who run the Tulsa study say this amount others also. I just wonder if Lyme is always a starter of this and those who tested negative on the test have a very low form of Lyme and it was at a down time where it could not be detected??? If Lyme has a flux just as Thyroid and blood pressure does. In fact even bladder infection can come out negative if you have drowned the infection with water or cranberry juice, but still have the infection. Wonder if all the fight we do can make Lyme go into stealth mode so that when you get involved in testing it comes out negative. In Light Lynn P.S. No I am glad I have almost all muscle movement in my face. It made it so I could do a neat trick. I can make the right side of my face smile while I can make the left side of my face frown. Pretty neat....lol. I know I am weird; I just embrace it. lol. Hi Lynn, Yes, I too have heard of people with Morgellons & no Lyme. I think you are right that Lyme can go into stealth mode, it is a clever little bugger. Seems doctors are not willing to perform many Lyme tests to confirm what the patient believes. Of course the doctor is always right!...gee wiz without us patients they wouldn't have a job. The majority of us right now are in a no win situation, but as I have always believed & still do...time will tell with this & the truth will come out in the end, even if it ends up being in the year 2060. You certainly are an inspiration, & such a fighter. Love itchin P.S. Thank you Violet! it is good for me when things start to make at least a little bit of sense.
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Sept 5, 2011 18:50:50 GMT -5
Post by itchin4answers on Sept 5, 2011 18:50:50 GMT -5
Eating Crow with Lyme"How is it that so many competent, caring practitioners are blinded to the truth of this epidemic? The answer is simple, actually. Like me, they followed the rules as established by the powers that be at the Centers for Disease Control, unaware that there was even controversy regarding the diagnosis and treatment of Lyme disease."Read full article; tinyurl.com/3rf47m5
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Sept 5, 2011 21:50:44 GMT -5
Post by Lynn on Sept 5, 2011 21:50:44 GMT -5
Baraka
Yes it does make me wonder why they would need to use Nucular drugs on him. His legs were crippled up and he had bad headaches with loud constant ringing that made him have worse headaches. Supposedly the nucular medicine was to try and stop the ring ears and head aches. Probably more then that but all I can remember from so long ago.
Not sure what to think on the agent orange. Would not be surprised if you were right about that. Very sorry still that you were there when all that happened.
In Light Lynn
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Sept 5, 2011 21:57:11 GMT -5
Post by Lynn on Sept 5, 2011 21:57:11 GMT -5
Hi Violet
Thank you and Itchen too. I love Jack Black. He is so funny. Got a kick when he did Yo Gaba Gaba. Can not ripple my eyebrows but I can play my nose....LOL
In Light Lynn
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Sept 6, 2011 5:55:39 GMT -5
Post by Baraka Obam on Sept 6, 2011 5:55:39 GMT -5
What you see in the Veterens hospitals is big time skin issues and people that are hobbled.
The majority have nervous system issues, paralasis, bone problems, they are being destroyed from the inside out.
If you have a Veterens Hospital close just walk the halls you will see exactly what is happening to most of us in the degrees of this disease from 1 to 10, Numba 10 as mamason said thats bad!!
Morgellons Numba 10.
If you go there and just walk around you will see and know where this came from.
The dermatology department is a nice little stop off. Nobody will bother you and there is no security
The LIE AGENT ORANGE and GULF WAR SYNDROME and may be the exact same lie only mutated further along.
These scum are learning about the results of their little laboratory disease right in the hospitals they set up to help our veterens, what better way to develope biological weapons.
What to destroy a whole generation, kill them early, AMERICA knows how to do that, with biological stealthy manufactured disease and LIES.
OR NOT! but certainly in my case 39 years ago, thats where I was and the itching fiber disease is what happened.
There is no doubt, all my soldier buddies, they are also afflicted, we came young and healthy and left afflicted like a bunch of old hypocondriacs.
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Sept 6, 2011 20:20:36 GMT -5
Post by sheredelight on Sept 6, 2011 20:20:36 GMT -5
owen.curezone.com/healing/lyme.htmlRocky Mountain Spotted Fever (RMSF cured by mega-doses of Vitamin C).If you have Lyme disease, and would like to try intravenous vitamin C therapy. Doctor Whitaker suggests you contact the American College for Advancement in Medicine, and ask them to tell you the name of a physician in your area who gives vitamin infusions. Their phone # is 1-800-532-3688, and their website is: www.acam.orgHIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT: The Pioneering Work of FREDERICK ROBERT KLENNER, M.D. When I first came across Klenner’s work on polio patients,” writes Thomas Levy, “I was absolutely amazed and even a bit overwhelmed at what I read. . . To know that polio had been easily cured and so many babies, children, and some adults still continued to die or survive to be permanently crippled by this virus was extremely difficult to accept. . . Even more incredibly, Klenner briefly presented a summarization of his work on polio at the Annual Session of the American Medical Association on June 10, 1949 in Atlantic City, New Jersey: www.doctoryourself.com/klennerbio.htmlVITAMIN C AGAINST POLIO
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Sept 10, 2011 0:50:40 GMT -5
Post by sheredelight on Sept 10, 2011 0:50:40 GMT -5
birdmites.org/strategies.html Although not common, there have been reports from some that what was initially a bird mite parasite problem, has become what is called Morgellons. With symptoms of stinging fibers, intense itching, skin lesions, and testing positive for Lyme Disease. It is quite possible that bird mites are a vector in some people, especially if there is a weakened immune system. There are some good Morgellons websites and also some misinformation about this disorder on the web, as Morgellons is not well understood. Any purported link to a specific organsim is still conjecture until proven by the medical community..
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Sept 11, 2011 2:42:24 GMT -5
Post by sheredelight on Sept 11, 2011 2:42:24 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpPFKp3FXmQ&feature=shareDr Harold Smith, was involved in writing the 1st ILADS LYME TREATMENT GUIDELINES.... Video 8/9/11, here he's talking about Lyme to the PA House Human Services Committee, Pennsylvania. Doctors in the Commonwealth say the state's incidence of the malaria-like scourge, which is carried by the same ticks that spread Lyme disease, may exceed that of New Jersey, where the disease has reached epidemic proportions Pennsylvanians have a new reason to beware of tick bites: babesiosis. A disease of rodents that has crossed species to infect humans, this malaria-like disease was primarily considered a threat to people in coastal states and nearby islands. However, recent evidence indicates that the incidence of babesiosis in Pennsylvania may exceed its infection rate in New Jersey, where the CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) has said it is epidemic. This has taken Pennsylvania's physicians by surprise, says Psychiatrist Virginia T. Sherr, of Holland, Pa., who has seen a rising number of cases in her practice and in other parts of the state and recently published a report on her findings in the scientific journal, Medical Hypotheses.
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Sept 11, 2011 12:44:45 GMT -5
Post by Lynn on Sept 11, 2011 12:44:45 GMT -5
Hi Sheredelight
Did you notice the three in front doing the nose rubs and itching. Is that a quiescence? I re-watched it to try and remember what he is saying.
In Light Lynn
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Sept 11, 2011 15:00:26 GMT -5
Post by sheredelight on Sept 11, 2011 15:00:26 GMT -5
Hi InLightLyn Yes i see that, This doctor knows what he;s talking about, just hope they are listening. Lyme borreliosis. Stanek G, Wormser GP, Gray J, Strle F Lancet 2011 09 6 Lyme borreliosis (Lyme disease) is caused by spirochaetes of the Borrelia burgdorferi sensu lato species complex, which are transmitted by ticks. The most common clinical manifestation is erythema migrans, which eventually resolves, even without antibiotic treatment. However, the infecting pathogen can spread to other tissues and organs, causing more severe manifestations that can involve a patient's skin, nervous system, joints, or heart. The incidence of this disease is increasing in many countries. Laboratory evidence of infection, mainly serology, is essential for diagnosis, except in the case of typical erythema migrans. Diagnosed cases are usually treated with antibiotics for 2-4 weeks and most patients make an uneventful recovery. No convincing evidence exists to support the use of antibiotics for longer than 4 weeks, or for the persistence of spirochaetes in adequately treated patients. Prevention is mainly accomplished by protecting against tick bites. There is no vaccine available for human beings. What a load of horse manure, what sort of jackasses are these people. Makes my blood boil....i see red ,see red , see red. gggrrrrrrr
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Sept 11, 2011 15:22:31 GMT -5
Post by Baraka Obam on Sept 11, 2011 15:22:31 GMT -5
While watching TV when I was in China a TV commercial came on it showed people harvesting crops and walking through high brush then all of a sudden a picture magnified from a plant of a bug, it was clearly a tick, The Chinese governement was warning its people on PRIME TIME TV on commercial time about lyme disease.
If the Chinese government is going ape over the infestations why isn't our governemnt getting on the band wagon.
While running through the forest a few years back in New york I decided to get off the nature path and take the road less traveled, the dear paths, WOOPS, not a very good idea, I was covered with ticks, and let me tell you some are so small you need a magnifying glass to see them.
I never did that again, but another time I went thru what looked like a bit of crused down tall grass, that had even more in it than the woods, I just happened to look down and crawling up my pants oh so slow 20 or so ticks.
At that point in my life they were more likely to catch lyme from me, LOL.
One last little story more humorus, after all of this I became very apprehensive, well when you run every day in the forest sooner or later nature will call, so I go to grab my swab, a leaf and look at the top of it to make sure all is well, LOL, it looked clean but then I said to myself, turn it over, you know it, there was a tick, LOL, from then on I came prepared for nature and her callings.
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