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Post by suzieq on Jun 24, 2009 16:11:00 GMT -5
In a nutshell, everything will be hooked up to the smart meter (broadband over powerline), even if you run solar and not electricity. Here's what they intend to run through it: Electricity Gas Water Internet (every keystroke and click) TV Telephone And here are the things they can do once you're hooked up: Transmit a specific frequency (ala Rife) through your lines to cause a specific illness (like cancer, etc.)Transmit frequency to make you think you're hearing voices(The SSSS technology in conjunction with digi-TV - evil stuff) Record every keystroke and click via your DSL router connection Transmit whatever they want through your lovely digital TV (note on this below) Turn your appliances, garage door opener, air, heat - everything - on or off Shut down any utility you have with the touch of a button - including your internet Poll you via satellite every 15 MINUTES and charge you for your highest point of usage during that time (even if it was 30 seconds) for all 15 minutes And, they're adding peak usage hours at higher rates so that we'll all be doing our laundry at 3 a.m. Folks with daytime jobs will really get dinged, cuz they need sleep! No one escapes this in the 44 countries they're setting it up in. Articles disappear fast from the web if they are anti-meters. One town won a class action suit, but the attorneys' phones are now disconnected, most of the article has been removed so no one knows just what the settlement was. These things are also burning houses down. My neighbor got fined $250 for tampering with his meter and he never went near it. I have the utility commission's head legal counsel's memo stating that it is law that they must install a parallel analog meter to be able to compare to the digital one, but when we try to get that accomplished, we get disconnected, we get screamed at, and are told NO. Last but not least, what are all of these signals doing to us and the wildlife? The head of my bed is about 10 ft on the other side of the wall from the meter, so I'm getting pulsed every 15 mins by a satellite? If that isn't enough, the Senate hearing on the Telecom Bill (which was passed) involved talk about the 2 TV channels over which 2-way viewing will occur. The way they pushed it is: Gee. How nice it will be to sit on your couch and have your doctor diagnose and treat you without even having to leave your home. OK. Docs can't even get it right when you're face-to-face. In addition (and NOT mentioned in Senate hearing) - there are an additional 5 back-end channels which we will not know about, through which 2-way viewing will occur. I know this from someone in the business, first-hand. Scotty, beam me up. Here's a new thread on Smart Meters. www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message824004/pg1
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Post by Jill on Jun 24, 2009 17:40:59 GMT -5
Transmit a specific frequency (ala Rife) through your lines to cause a specific illness (like cancer, etc.) ** Wow. You know this may sound strange, but a family member got cancer in January. Just prior- in November, 2008, his computer (one that was at my house) got hacked. He mentioned that he wondered (after he got the cancer) if it could somehow be related to the computer -not the usage but rather some person sending something (waves/whatever) via the computer. Now the interesting thing about that comment is that he is not that sort of thinker at all. It came as a shock- his mention of the subject. Funnier still- I had been thinking something along those lines as well. I believe I was the target and not him. So what can we do? Is it proveable?
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Post by suzieq on Jun 24, 2009 19:04:04 GMT -5
Hi Jill!
I'm so sorry to hear about your relative. Any anti-meter info online gets scrubbed pretty quick, as far as articles and even blogs.
One reporter in FL wrote about it and I called him just days later. He was no longer employed there.
Another FL reporter that I wrote to responded quickly by saying he is sure we aren't talking about the same meters. Funny thing is that he has no idea what I have, and he hasn't published any more anti-meter stuff since.
We know gut instinct is truth and it sounds to me like your relative knew subconsciously what happened, esp since they aren't prone to that kind of thinking. Know what I mean?
I will try to find the link that I got the health-related info from and see if it's still online.
It's doubtful anyone will be able to prove anything - we already know how that tune goes, don't we?
Will be back with anything I can find. Hopefully I copied it down.
Prayers to you and your family.
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Post by suzieq on Jun 24, 2009 19:40:43 GMT -5
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Post by bessie on Jun 25, 2009 19:36:53 GMT -5
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Post by suzieq on Jun 25, 2009 23:57:29 GMT -5
Thank you Bessie and Kmarie for your contributions!
Still haven't found what I was looking for. I'm wondering if I heard it on a radio show instead - still searching!
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Post by believer on Jun 26, 2009 0:12:22 GMT -5
I heard about this on Alex Jones a little over a month ago.
Supposedly used to control rates consummers of electricity and gas during peak periods.
but thats what they all say..lol .......Big Brother extends his arm again.
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Post by jj on Jun 26, 2009 10:56:09 GMT -5
.......................................From Bessie's Link:Silent subliminal presentation system AbstractA silent communications system in which nonaural carriers, in the very low or very high audio frequency range or in the adjacent ultrasonic frequency spectrum, are amplitude or frequency modulated with the desired intelligence and propagated acoustically or vibrationally, for inducement into the brain, typically through the use of loudspeakers, earphones or piezoelectric transducers. The modulated carriers may be transmitted directly in real time or may be conveniently recorded and stored on mechanical, magnetic or optical media for delayed or repeated transmission to the listener. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Inventors: Lowery; Oliver M. (5188 Falconwood Ct., Norcross, GA 30071) Appl. No.: 458339 Filed: December 28, 1989________________________________________ So is this FOR REAL?? "So is this for real??"Yep, I believe it is for real. Do I believe these devices were invented with human destruction, disease and 'population control' capabilities in mind? No, just the opposite in my opinion. They are "subliminal" devices invented to be used to facilitate better health, wellbeing and self improvement. I believe I have used a device like the one described in the patent above (with headphones). I previously shared this personal experience with a member here. It's use was offered to me by an X who was a musician who had his own sound system and recorded his own music. He was quite knowledgeable of it's makeup and understood sound and frequency. If that wasn't the case I wouldn't of subjected myself to it. With the device one was able to incorporate sounds or music of choice along with existing frequencies. It happened to be a difficult time in my life and I was open to it's perceived calming affects. I experienced a huge release of pent-up emotions. Not only did it leave me feeling calm and at peace it also helped me finalize the things in my life at that time that were the product of my distress. Soooooooo, there was something about it that worked. Because of that experience I have always believed in the positive capabilities of frequency. The concept behind subliminal devices, a PMA (positive mental attitude) and self improvement has been around for years. With technology today they have evolved and become more complex. There is a TV show we enjoy watching on Public Television called the "History Detective". They just happened to be investigating a similar device (antique) for a couple called a "Psycho-Phone" that the couple believed may have been invented by Thomas Edison and was thought to be used to communicate with the dead. The detectives researched the device and found out it was not created to speak with the dead. It was a " Automatic Time Controlled Suggestion Machine" for self improvement by repetitive, positive subliminal messages while sleeping. If interested here is the "History Detective" website & a link to a video of the show described. www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectives/investigations/701_psychophone.htmlwww.pbs.org/video/video/1143720703/chapter/2/program/1138014438The self improvement industry on many avenues is booming and the concept was started long before few of us even realized. The technology advancement entially described in this thread ..... that was installed in our electric meter. No more servicemen coming to read the meter's because our electricity usage is now monitered elsewhere. No ill effects on our part since it was installed. JJ
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Post by jj on Jun 26, 2009 11:39:34 GMT -5
Kmarie,
I really think the subliminal message most likely depends on the frame of mind of the individuals using them, what they want to achieve from it and what they are completely open to.
Not that there isn't the possibility destructive messages could be prerecorded by someone with evil intentions. I just feel the evil intentions can be avoided.
Interesting about your quit smoking tape. Thanks for sharing that. Some of the same projected visuals and possible mantras were used by my acupuncturist along with the needles and electrical frequency. I was guided to pick my own mantra's based on the filth and health devastating aspects of smoking and cigarettes. It worked briefly. Unfortunately, I was not open and ready to really quit at that time. So, for me It didn't work for the smoking because in my mind I really wasn't ready to embark on such a change in my life habits. Everything I did was "topped off with a cigarette" and I was afraid I would not be able to live without my crutch. The commitment wasn't there.
JJ
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Post by toni on Jun 26, 2009 11:51:45 GMT -5
Oh yes, I believe this too about the body interacting with frequencies.
I feel that too is why music - sound... (on another level/frequency), vibrations etc, can make us all full of energy, sad, or happy. Maybe this isn't "in the same category" of "frequency"....but it seems like it, (do you know)?
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Post by bessie on Jun 26, 2009 12:51:35 GMT -5
There was a bit of a scandle about 20 years ago when subliminal messaging was being used to influence people's decisions with respect to purchasing. These tactics were used without people's knowledge. "Sub" liminal means below the threshold of conscious awareness, yet capable of delivering messages to the subconscious. What happened is that, in a small minority of people, the conscious awareness is keener than in others and these people could readily detect these messages. Like almost everything, the intent in the application of it's usage determines whether it is good or evil. The same technology - nucleapower, for example - could be used to provide clean power or to destroy entire nations or civilizations. As the saying goes, guns don't kill, people do.
Bessie
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Post by Jill on Jun 26, 2009 14:22:18 GMT -5
Yeah- I had the books about Subliminals- years ago www.amazon.com/Subliminal-Seduction-Wilson-Bryan-Key/dp/0451061489Subliminal Seduction Some on the page below look informative: www.amazon.com/Age-Manipulation-Con-Confidence-Sincere/dp/0819186538/ref=pd_sim_b_4 ** Amazing information! Thank you SusieQ for posting this. I will also do some Googling.... I'm still wondering if the HACKER/s and the cancer are connected.... all the moreso now.... Un-believeable... That patent- 5159703- refers back to other patents (as all patents do). References patents going back to 1962- Corrigan et al... tinyurl.com/ynzvadExcerpt: BACKGROUND--DESCRIPTION OF PRIOR ART Subliminal learning enjoys wide use today and subliminal tapes are being manufactured by a number of companies in the United States alone. Several decades of scientific study indicate that subliminal messages can influence a human's attitudes and behavior. Subliminal, in these discussions, can be defined as "below the threshold of audibility to the conscious mind." To be effective however, the subliminally transmitted information (called affirmations by those in the profession) must be presented to the listener's ear in such a fashion that they can be perceived and "decoded" by the listener's subconscious mind. We are referring to audio information in this discussion, however, information could be inputted into the subject's subconscious mind through any of the body's sensors, such as touch, smell, sight or hearing. As an example, early development work in the subliminal field utilized motion pictures and slide projections as the medium. Early research into visual and auditory subliminal stimulation effects is exemplified by U.S. Pat. Nos. 3,060,795 of Corrigan, et al. and 3,278,676 of Becker. U.S. Pat. No. 4,395,600 of Lundy and Tyler is representative of later developments in today's subliminal message techniques. end Excerpt: One of the principal, and most widely objected to, deficiencies in available subliminal tape presentation techniques is that the presence of the "foreground" material is intrusive to both the listener and to anyone else in the immediate area. No matter what "foreground" material is chosen, the fact remains that this material can be heard by anyone within its range and presents a definite distraction to other activities such as conversation, thought, desire to listen to other programming such as radio or television, need to concentrate, etc. Additionally, and because the tapes are used repeatedly by the same listener, any "foreground" music or material eventually becomes monotonously tiring to that listener. end Excerpt: OBJECTS OF THE INVENTION Accordingly, several objects and advantages of my invention are: (a) to provide a technique for producing a subliminal presentation which is inaudible to the listeners(s), yet is perceived and demodulated (decoded) by the ear for use by the subconscious mind. (b) to provide a technique for transmitting inaudible subliminal information to the listener(s) at a constant, high level of signal strength and on a clear band of frequencies. (c) to provide a technique for producing inaudible subliminal presentations to which music or other "foreground" programming may be added, if desired. Still further objects and advantages will become apparent from a consideration of the ensuing description and drawings. BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE DRAWINGS In the drawings, the first digit of each component number also refers to the figure number where that component can be located. FIG. 1 represents the block diagram of a suitable system which will generate a frequency modulated (FM) signal at 14,500 Hz. FIG. 2 represents an approximation of the frequency response curve of the human ear and the signal decoding process. FIG. 3 represents the block diagram of a suitable system which will generate a single sideband, suppressed carrier, amplitude modulated (AM) signal at 14,500 Hz. end Excerpt: Alternatively, the output of the system can be fed directly into an audio amplifier and its speaker/earphone system, Public Address system, etc. end So what good deeds could/would be done with a PA system hooked up to spit out subliminals? The user of those techniques have only one thing in mind and it's not your welfare. Any person or group that needs to manipulate others for any reason is up to no good. Thanks again, SusieQ! Jill
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Post by jj on Jun 26, 2009 14:45:08 GMT -5
If you look for negativity you will find it. If you look for the positive you will find it. If you are aware of all and focus on an approach that works for you by enriching your life and may also help others with no harm. That is probably the way to go in all aspects of life.
Then again, it is all in the mind of the beholder and their approach to life.
Thank you Bessie. Agree 100%. "Guns don't kill, people do"
JJ
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Post by Jill on Jun 26, 2009 15:04:34 GMT -5
It's unlikely that you ever met someone as positive in their thoughts as I am. I have a lot of Faith.
Bought my first house when I was 17 with $600 down (may have been $800 - can't recall. I negotiated a Purchase money mortgage- from the seller (a real estate company).
Lived there for exactly 5 years- sold the house and purchased a lot. My ex and I built the next house- from blueprint to finish. Had numerous subs- for the electrical, plumbing and so on- but we did a lot of the work ourselves.
(the entire time we were building- the spouse is saying- I'm going to loose my shirt- I told him to focus- we could do it and we did)
Built the next house too- blueprint- to completion.
(by this time, the spouse had some confidence)
Then we started buying houses to fix up and rent or resell.
All the while- I raised my children and worked not one but 2 jobs- Accounting (worked up to Accountant/Controller position) and Real Estate (Realtor).
My kids lacked for nothing in terms of my sharing my time with them. I was Cub Scout- Den mother- Brownie Leader- and Room mother for both children and now for my Grandchildren. I'm there for all of them- 24/7.
I'm a hands-on person. And not negative. You get nowhere in sales being negative- and I did well over the years- thank the Good Lord for that.
But realistic. I call them as I see them.
If you see no evil in today's world - you have to be a Pollyanna or brain dead- most especially as relates to this condition.
The trite statement that you get what you look for- does not apply to this situation. At all.
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Post by Jill on Jun 26, 2009 15:20:52 GMT -5
Whoa.... the Hacker took exception to my last post- my Grandson's machine went down. That is a FIRST for his machine- mine- I get knocked off at home lots (totally off line- black screen) - this is a first for his machine. The screen went BLACK- lost all my notepads. WOW or WHOA BUT- I will say- I should have expected that one. List of todays spyware/keystroke loggers etc: reader_sl.exe wdfmgr.exe ati2evxx.exe LDDrvc.exe alg.exe dvldr.exe (Rundll32.exe problem) *** ipoint.exe wmiprvse.exe PRVDServ.exe ViewpointService.... and more.... Google: ***About the trojan Dvldr : trojan, what Hi everybody! I need your help to d with a trojan called Dvldr . My Norton Anti-virus had detected a Dvldr trojan in two files in the system32 folder (I am ... www.experts-exchange.com/Security/.../Q_20585539.html - Cached - Similar -
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Post by jj on Jun 26, 2009 19:20:49 GMT -5
Jill,
Was this in reply to me and my posts in this thread? I tend to post in general to all unless I use a persons name within. Using the word "you" in my post is directed to the readers. So I guess the "you" in your post could be directed to all as well.
I see plenty evil in the world. I go out of my way to fully grasp everything and all perspectives. Then, after doing that proceed with (like I said above) " ........ focus on an approach that works for you by enriching your life and may also help others with no harm". The you 'pertains to all who might relate' including myself. If that approach to dealing with what life has dealt us from your perspective seems pollyannish or indicates brain-death then I wasn't understood at all. No where did I advise anyone to not "see", completely ignore or choose denial of ANYTHING.
Trite? I can be repetitive at times with things I am passionate about. I truly believe a positive attitude is essential when coping with Morgellons. Is that what you were referring to by saying ".... does not apply to this situation. At all". Again, I don't believe I was understood based on your response (if responding to me).
No offense taken on my part if your reply was to me. None at all, just trying to be as clear as possible.
If anyone takes offense with my 'sharing' ...... let me just say, offending or hurting others is not my objective.
JJ
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Post by bannanny on Jun 26, 2009 19:30:22 GMT -5
Same way my puter went down the day after the "amazing glitter and more" thread was posted on "Coast to Coast" and we received over 24,000 hits in 24 hrs. Had I not made recovery discs when I first got my puter, I wouldn't be talkin to you guys now... that's how bad it was. The guy who helps me out from time to time runs a computer emergency store and told me I'd most definitely been hacked into. Alot of my pics disappeared from simpload at the same time too... all morgellons pics.
As a matter of fact, I'm havin alot of problems with my computer right now and I haven't been able to access Simpload for 2 days.
Everything that's been said here on this thread can easily happen IMO. Very unfortunate, but true.
What really gets me tho, is why they have to use the word "smart" in all of it. Smart meters, Smart Gels, and so on and so on. They must be trying to make up for their own stupidity. ;D
hugs ~~ bannannas
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Post by bessie on Jun 27, 2009 9:41:50 GMT -5
Jill -
I Understand and relate to your feelings and assessment. Before Morgellons, (looking back on it now) I thought I was "wise" and sought the best in people and situations. I was also rather spiritual. I never could have imagined that something like this could come and pull the rug out from under my life, turning me and everything I believed in upside down. It is not a matter of perception, it is something univited and undeserved (and I am sure I speak for all of us in that statement). "Evil" can find anyone, no matter how innocent and undeserving.
Bessie
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Post by lilsissy on Jun 27, 2009 10:22:46 GMT -5
Good work susieq, This is from an old post of mine , fits right in here, I heard the wave of the planet is changing, singularity for sure. Soon you and I will think alike, www.freepatentsonline.com/y2008/0208284.html?query=brain+neuron+interface&stemming=on [glow=red,2,300] SYSTEMS AND METHODS FOR NEUROMODULATION USING PRE-RECORDED WAVEFORMS United States Patent Application 20080208284 Kind Code:A1 Abstract:Methods for neuromodulation using waveform signals. In certain embodiments, an input waveform is obtained from a signal source site in a source subject and an output waveform is applied to a target site in a target subject. The source subject is a human or animal and the signal source site is in the nervous system, including the brain. The source subject and target subject are the same subjects or different subjects. The output waveform is identical to the input waveform or derived from the input waveform. In some embodiments, the output waveform is modified in response to physiologic feedback. Also provided are systems for neuromodulation using waveform signals. [/glow]
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Post by lilsissy on Jun 27, 2009 10:28:45 GMT -5
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