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Post by toni on Oct 4, 2009 9:03:16 GMT -5
MD Forte Hand and Body Glycolic Cream (20%) From SkinCareRX.com And RoC Retinol Cream from any grocery store or pharm. No script needed for these products.
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Post by jeany on Oct 5, 2009 8:39:13 GMT -5
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Post by jeany on Oct 5, 2009 8:50:26 GMT -5
My little chihuahua terrier I had 18 years would find a bra from the clothes basket or hamper, and then (never knew how she did it) but she did it - but I'd be going about my business around the house, and then I'd look, and there'd she be! Sitting somewhere high up, ontop the couch back or wherever, with the bra cup on her head like a bonnet! And she'd not move until I'd acknowledge her. That was "her thing". Find a bra, and sit like the cup was the bonnet for her head, (looked more like casper the ghost with that bra cup draped over her entire head) and the rest of the bra would hang down like it was the rest of the outfit probably to her, and then she'd sit frozen - until I went on about how cute she looked, hahhaha Sometimes I'd see her and pretend that I didn't see her, as she was blinded by it draped over her head, and I'd not say anything, and I'd sort of watch, and she'd never move (unless I raved how cute) she looked, hahaha That was her way to get my attention ;D They are too precious aren't they. Beyond precious our loving pets are, with each one having so many wonderful personalities as they do. Jeany, Mikey is just so adorable ;D And you'd asked if the glycolic I use caused any improvements? For Morgs? (it can do different things). Irritate the skin more into pimple like inflamations it can do, which I believe if there's something underneath the surface, it seems to do that. It doesn't rid Morgs, been using it for several years. As for the skin, our skin LOVES AHA's/glycolic creams or anything that helps it rejuvenate. Salicylics, Retin A's, Retinol's, AHA's they're all great for skin, as they enduce exfoliation and cellular turnover, which is what keeps skin looking younger longer. Any glycolics, salicylics, retinol's can be purchased easily also. omg! Toni, your story about your little dog..I imagined that and cracked up over that sight in my head...unbelievably cute!! Aren't animals just precious? I just loooove 'em..and every single one has it's only special personality. I had a cat once, he died on cancer, and he just loved to sleep in my bed with me. And every night when I took off my socks I took one and put it on top of his head. You should have seen him. He was walking around the bed with this sock on his head purring as loud as he could, I think just to make me laugh!! His name was Charley and was the cutest thing ever! I had him over 14 years..boy..it still hurts when I think about him... Thanks btw..yes..Mikey..he's special. Need to call my daughter to see how it's going.. And MeatsMeats..he is just the most adorable kitty kat I've ever seen! I took a few pictures of him lately, wanted to post them, but on every single picture his eyes are closed..flash..but will re-do shortly..You guys just have to see him!! So..hmm..you're saying those creams are good, eh? Well..maybe I'll get me a batch..smear it all over..make me look 10 years younger? ;D Jeany
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Post by toni on Oct 5, 2009 9:13:01 GMT -5
I can't wait to see your new kitty pics ;D heheh yeah, she (my little dog) was a total riot for 18 years, and it still hurts, the loss, but then I'll smile and laugh to myself when I think about all the wonderful wonderful moments and years we had together.
And those creams, yes, they're very good for the skin. But not necessarily for Morgs...as they don't do too much.
I can induce (black oil and black specks out of my skin) with the glycolic cream. I just make a slight break in my skin like a finger nail scratch, then apply a glob of glycolic cream ontop of that, and 15 min later, the underside of that glob of cream on my skin will be blackened with stuff that's inside my skin.
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Post by jeany on Oct 5, 2009 10:40:40 GMT -5
I can't wait to see your new kitty pics ;D heheh yeah, she (my little dog) was a total riot for 18 years, and it still hurts, the loss, but then I'll smile and laugh to myself when I think about all the wonderful wonderful moments and years we had together. And those creams, yes, they're very good for the skin. But not necessarily for Morgs...as they don't do too much. I can induce (black oil and black specks out of my skin) with the glycolic cream. I just make a slight break in my skin like a finger nail scratch, then apply a glob of glycolic cream ontop of that, and 15 min later, the underside of that glob of cream on my skin will be blackened with stuff that's inside my skin. wow, Toni..so that stuff really draws it out? hmm..Hydroxyl..That's it!! sorry, about your dog, Toni...I know how it feels... Jeany
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Post by jeany on Oct 5, 2009 12:59:15 GMT -5
I’m still studying the aspect of a possible pre-disposition we all might have in order that the Morgellons pathogens make us susceptible. I was thinking about a dysfunction or malfunction of the endocrine glands and also that we might have a disturbance in our mineral balances. Interesting is the fact that the heavy metals such as copper and iron play a main role in our metabolism which leads, if malfunctional, to extrem disorders in our bodies system. I’ve done a little research on this subject and found out that ROS Reactive Oxygen Species, H202 Hydrogen Peroxide, high copper and high iron levels have a relationship to free radicals which I am stating here, made us susceptible for this disease in the first place. It would also explain, why some people have visible/noticeable signs of Morgellons Disease and some not. I also found it interesting why the rate of female Morgies is higher than male. I personally think it has something to do with the production of Hydrogen Peroxide in older ages, after menopause and the production respectively the amount of iron in our blood. Another factor is also Insulin. There is a so called ‘disturbance’, inherited condition, G6PD Glucose-6-Phosphate Dehydrogenase which usually occurs in men but,in women with a double x chromosome present. As I stated that I think there might be a genetic similarity I actually thought, not about races, but a common dysfunction we might share. What I also found interesting is a patent shown by someone where there is possible connection to Morgellons Disease and ROS. Here are a few brief points which I thought might show how this works: Overload copper --- overload iron – low zinc – low magnesium – low potassium – G6PD – hypo/hyper insulin production – Lysosomes enzymes -- disturbance endocrine gland thyroid – melanin production -- low progesteron – low estrogen – over production of H202 – – ROS There is a so called Fenton’s reaction. It can be explained that high levels of iron together with Hydrogen Peroxide leads to a chain reaction of Hydroxyl radicals and causes acidoses. Worth mentionable is also the fact that this procedure is used in water remediation. I was thinking how we might be able to slow down ROS. And one substance is Hydroxyl Acid. Here a few aspects we should consider: - Lactoferrin – in milk and milk products - Transferrin – Transport of Iron – responsible for transport to cells - Ceruloplasmin – Copper carrying protein – Iron metabolism - Metallothionein – bonds heavy metals - Cysteine – eliminates Hydroxyl radicals – N-Acethylcycsteine If these ‘transporters’ of the metabolism are dysfunctional/malfunctional it causes ROS and Hydroxyl Radicals. I was also thinking what we might need to do to compensate this disorder. 1. Detox heavy metals – Chlorella, MSM, NAC!! 2. Intake zinc/magnesium – zinc is antagonist to copper and iron 3. Balanced consumption of milk and milk products Of course this all needs way more research and medical assistance, but I think if we add the above supplements in higher doses to our daily diet it could be helpful. I can only speak from my own experience and from some other members I contacted that intake of zinc/magnesium and NAC has shown to be beneficial. These are only a few points I wanted to bring out here for some of you guys to look into if interested. www.drlwilson.com/Articles/IRON.htmwww.lenntech.com/fenton-reaction.htmwww.fibrogenesis.com/content/1/1/5Jeany
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Post by jeany on Oct 5, 2009 15:00:40 GMT -5
I was thinking about how contaminates in water/soil interact with carbon nanotubes (fullerenes) and found this site: The flip side of using carbon nanotubes for environmental pollutants removalwww.nanowerk.com/spotlight/spotid=780.phpCarbon nanomaterials have been studied as superior sorbents for their potential environmental applications to remove pollutants such as organic pollutants, metals, fluorides and radionuclides. Most of these studies focused on the adsorption process and few dealt with the interfacial interactions of organic contaminants with carbon nanomaterials in aqueous media. New research looks at the high adsorption capacity and reversible adsorption of PAHs (polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons), many of which are suspected carcinogens, on CNTs. The findings imply the potential release of PAHs if PAH-adsorbed CNTs are inhaled by animals and humans, leading to a high environmental and public health risk. It was suggested that the toxicity of carbon nanomaterials is not only from their own potentially harmful nature but also from the toxic substances sorbed by them.So far, the desorption of organic contaminants by carbon nanomaterials, addressed only by limited research, shows significant desorption hysteresis of naphthalene and 1,2-dichlorobenzene from fullerene (C60)."High adsorption capacity and complete reversible adsorption of PAHs by CNTs imply the potential release of PAHs if PAH-adsorbed CNTs are inhaled by animals and humans, thus presenting high risk to the public health and environment" Xing concludes. Naphthaleneen.wikipedia.org/wiki/NaphthaleneMost naphthalene is derived from coal tar. Exposure to large amounts of naphthalene may damage or destroy red blood cells. Over 400 million people have an inherited condition called glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase deficiency.
Exposure to naphthalene is more harmful for these people and may cause hemolytic anemia at lower doses. Polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbonen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycyclic_aromatic_hydrocarbonsPAHs occur in oil, coal, and tar deposits, and are produced as byproducts of fuel burning (whether fossil fuel or biomass). As a pollutant, they are of concern because some compounds have been identified as carcinogenic, mutagenic, and teratogenic. PAHs are also found in foods. Studies have shown that most food intake of PAHs comes from cereals, oils and fats. Smaller intakes come from vegetables and cooked meats.Jeany
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Post by violet on Oct 5, 2009 17:00:32 GMT -5
Violet, What Sophie does with the white pitchers is a riot! ;D hahahha She knows how to get her moms attention for sure. Just too funny. My little chihuahua terrier I had 18 years would find a bra from the clothes basket or hamper, and then (never knew how she did it) but she did it - but I'd be going about my business around the house, and then I'd look, and there'd she be! Sitting somewhere high up, ontop the couch back or wherever, with the bra cup on her head like a bonnet! And she'd not move until I'd acknowledge her. That was "her thing". Find a bra, and sit like the cup was the bonnet for her head, (looked more like casper the ghost with that bra cup draped over her entire head) and the rest of the bra would hang down like it was the rest of the outfit probably to her, and then she'd sit frozen - until I went on about how cute she looked, hahhaha Sometimes I'd see her and pretend that I didn't see her, as she was blinded by it draped over her head, and I'd not say anything, and I'd sort of watch, and she'd never move (unless I raved how cute) she looked, hahaha That was her way to get my attention ;D They are too precious aren't they. Beyond precious our loving pets are, with each one having so many wonderful personalities as they do. I doubled over laughing at this, Toni!!! What a hoot!!! I love little chihuahua mixes...
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Post by violet on Oct 5, 2009 17:07:22 GMT -5
Hey Violet..omg!..l laughed sooo much this morning..it was about 5 a.m. and I woke up cuz Meats was lying next to me purring real loud. I looked at him and he was making biscuits again..and suddenly your comment came into my mind about how your cat was making a 'loaf of bread'..boy..I was just cracking up...was imagining how she did that..too funny..I kept laughing on and on..until I was ready to get up!! Thanks for the good laugh, Violet..too cute!! Jeany :-) So glad you got a good laugh at that, Jeany. Isn't it fun when something we think back on just gets us laughing? And it's so nice to have it happen when we first wake up, too. Nice way to start the day. Yes, Sophie Grace Pandora kneads dough very well!
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Post by kammy on Oct 6, 2009 19:06:54 GMT -5
''We're in a fine fix, Ollie...''
I just realized what has happened to me... When I had my first outbreak, it got out of control - in my outer ear, deep embedded cones that started growing, reproducing, going through its life cycle phases and taking my health with it. I have never felt so defenseless against anything, a state of total paralysis... the mental paralysis will not allow the brain to engage properly. Synapses do not fire the way they used to. As someone compared it to 'being in a room with a lot of doors, you know you need to open one of the doors, but you can't open a single one...'.
When I saw my doctors last fall, I was in a state of where the larvae were alive and they were gnawing a canal through my ear, I submitted 3 larvae to pathology. They came back as 'nothing'... I now know that they are GM fungus gnat larvae. Where does this information leave us?
During this time, I felt the worst. It wasn't until I killed and removed the larvae before I felt better, I was in a state of being infested with a soon to be fly. When people come to us in this state is when we need to understand where they are. Most of us never let our disease get to this hatching stage, is that what's happening? Most of us haven't lived this part of the disease?
You don't want to be associated with an insect disease? You're in denial? You don't think that if you can't manipulate your lesions and get the debris out and leave it in there that you won't be hatching insects too? Lord help us if we get to where we can't take care of ourselves, can you imagine?
How do we become complacent with having this insect vector living inside of us? Is this what has happened... because we aren't producing specks anymore, this makes it alright with us? We can't open a single door to help ourselves, our cause, our plight... this is so unimaginable, who will believe that this has happened to us? We can't even go to our doctors for help... try and take this information to an attorney... your health department... your Congressman... and apathy abounds... what a perfectly devious disease!
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Post by kammy on Oct 6, 2009 19:20:31 GMT -5
So, we need at least two different lesion protocols... one for the live aspect of this disease and the other for maintenance to keep us from getting to the live stage that centers around fighting carbon nanoinsect entities...!!! This sounds like a Halloween story?... I don't know what all to say here... it makes me so angry sometimes, to think that someone has been allowed to mess up so many innocent people's lives for... for what? What could possibly be worth this?
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Post by kammy on Oct 6, 2009 19:50:29 GMT -5
Great work, Jeany! and your recommendations of:
1. Detox heavy metals – Chlorella, MSM, NAC!! 2. Intake zinc/magnesium – zinc is antagonist to copper and iron 3. Balanced consumption of milk and milk products
I started the zinc/magnesium supplements as per your suggestion, and have been doing some of these others...
We can see what looks like iron content in the sample particles... and zinc/mag are antagonists to copper and iron... makes sense to double up on these supplements!
How many mg. do you recommend of each? Maybe you will put it in a blog format for us so we can better read it?
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Post by bannanny on Oct 8, 2009 1:24:39 GMT -5
Well kam... whatever's in the morg mix, we know something in it is also an environmental contaminant. We know it thrives in the environment as much as it thrives in us, in our food, in our clothing, our pets, our cars... what we need to identify is what it is in morgs that has the ability to thrive in and on anything that's in it's path. That's the ingredient we need to pin point. I just don't know how to stop something that seems to be taking over the entire freakin planet and everything that exists on it. It's got me pretty pis*sed off right now... sorry.
I love ya's tho ~~ bannannas
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Post by kammy on Oct 8, 2009 12:59:57 GMT -5
Love you too, Banny. I think the fungal aspect of Morgellons is wicked! And, B. bassina looks very suspect... wish they had better microscopic photos for comparison... once again, they are putting something in our food/environment that is not thoroughly understood nor tested. ''Beauveria bassiana is an important entomopathogenic fungus currently under development as a bio-control agent for a variety of insect pests. Although reported to be non-toxic to vertebrates, the potential allergenicity of Beauveria species has not been widely studied. As alternatives to chemical pesticides these agents are natural occurring and are considered to be non-pathogenic to humans, although a few cases of B. bassiana mediated tissue infections have been reported.'' www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=546202Jeany, I hope Mikey gets better soon... I'm praying for us and our pets...
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Post by kammy on Oct 8, 2009 13:58:25 GMT -5
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Post by kammy on Oct 8, 2009 14:12:15 GMT -5
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Post by kammy on Oct 9, 2009 12:49:01 GMT -5
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Post by bannanny on Oct 10, 2009 1:39:05 GMT -5
I've been on his protocol since June... altho I felt like I might be improving in the first few weeks after I'd started it, things turned back and I'm just as bad as I've always been. Still taking it all tho... I have to, it cost me 140 bucks to buy it all. I'm staying with it becuz of that too... I just don't have the money to keep trying this and that. I also know my getting any better isn't gonna happen overnight. I have a great amount of respect for grady too, and all the work he's done to try and help.
But how anyone can say they're 85-100% better by taking anything at all is beyond me. I wish I could understand... but all I see is this thing not only consuming me, but it brings its disease on everything else in its path too. I just don't see how anyone can escape it.
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Post by kammy on Oct 10, 2009 13:24:33 GMT -5
This is an interesting article on scientific censorship: news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/02/0210_050210_censorship.html''Self-Censorship Limits Science More Than Laws, Study Says Stefan Lovgren for National Geographic News February 10, 2005 Self-censorship may play a greater role in suppressing scientific research than laws or regulations, according to a new study. What scientists can and cannot do is, to an extent, officially dictated. For example, human cloning and embryonic stem cell creation have been restricted or banned by some governments. Too Dangerous The concept of forbidden knowledge can be traced back to Genesis in the Bible, in which Adam eats the forbidden fruit from "the tree of knowledge of good and evil." "It's a deeply rooted idea in our culture that some truths are just too dangerous for us," Kempner said. "These are rules that are not written," Kempner said. "They may be ideas that researchers say that everyone kind of knows about." Scientists may stay away from research not because it's illegal, but because it breaches an unspoken rule about what is appropriate to study and what is not. "There may be things that researchers think they can't do, because they anticipate some kind of threat," Kempner said.'' **I am wondering if there is not some sort of unwritten taboo placed on researching Morgellons, it appears so...?
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Post by kammy on Oct 12, 2009 0:58:26 GMT -5
passion.edu/elearn/mod/resource/view.php?id=1329"Soon after GM virus were developed for insect control it was found that baculovirus were capable of infecting human liver cells," says Joe Cummins, Prof. Emeritus at the University of Western Ontario. "For that reason baculovirus vectors were developed to treat liver disease. Interestingly, the fact that baculovirus can infect human liver cells seems to have been ignored by those developing the virus for commercial pest control. I understand that there has been a great deal of pressure to hasten approval of the GM baculovirus for pest control. There have already been several field trials worldwide of baculoviruses given a gene for a scorpion toxin (New Scientist, 21 January 1995, p. 6). However, most of the scorpion toxin made in infected insects fails to fold into the correct shape, says King. By contrast, tests in bacteria suggest that almost 100 per cent of the spider toxin should fold properly, making the virus deadlier. Moore makes the point that the industry states that BT-corn alone could not push monarchs and other butterflies over the edge, but a combination of other Monsanto and industry innovations just might. "Now we have Roundup ready crops and spider poison enhanced butterfly pathogens to deal with. Roundup ready crops are a direct threat in that they target milkweed, the monarch's host plant, as well as a whole spectrum of annual and perennial weeds for elimination. Many of these weeds are host plants for other butterflies as well," says Moore. There are also fears that the toxin gene might be transferred to other viruses."
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