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Post by fritolay66 on Nov 5, 2009 9:35:27 GMT -5
Thanks Sid and Kam. Let you know whats going on with an update and some photos.
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Post by Sidney on Nov 5, 2009 10:00:43 GMT -5
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Post by toni on Nov 5, 2009 11:20:45 GMT -5
Thank you VERY much Sid for the petri dish (just got it in the mail). I'm going to put in my specimens and go for it ;D A tip to possibly help those growing specimens in a petri dish, to help identify your specimens (before) they get growing would be to mark your dish, with colored tape or a felt pen marker to note the top. That way you'll always know which end is what. Then you can make corresponding paper (illustration) that is separate from the dish, and because you've marked the petri dish to begin with, you'll be able to decipher what's what by your illustration on the paper you've written on. For example, if you have in your petri dish at the 12 o'clock (top) a nose hair that you want to see if it grows something - your corresponding "paper with the illustration" will be that it is your nose hair. Then for instance, if you place a specimen from your ear, at the 3 o'clock area in your petri dish, your corresponding paper will state that too...and so on for the 6 o'clock area, and the 9 o'clock area too. And the middle will just be "the middle". I know many of you probably are ontop this already, but just noting it for us "new timers" with growing specimens. I'm new to this too with a "petri dish"....and excited as well to see what happens. The only reason for this "tip" is because it seems that "if" we mark on our petri dishes, the words may get grown over with 'mold' or whatever grows inside, and then we won't know what's what. Gosh...I hope that makes sense. A bit hard to describe what I mean. And thank you again Sid!!!
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Post by Sidney on Nov 5, 2009 12:06:25 GMT -5
I think what Toni has suggested makes good sense.
I'm extremely curious, just as an example, to know if my nose hair in the Petri Dish will grow mold.
Now, the downside of that is that mold spores can easily be breathed in, and therefore trapped by the hair. The hair are obviously there for a reason.
My second Petri Dish started growing white fluff on one of the specimens. Crazy as it sounds, I feel like doing the Happy Dance.
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Post by toni on Nov 5, 2009 13:27:50 GMT -5
Sid,
I'm doing the happy dance too. This is going to be something to see what happens next.
I added the solution to the petri dish, and in approx one hour it set up like "gelatin" is the best way to describe it. It was easy! ;D I'm glad.
Then I placed different specimens in a 'clock like' manner all around inside it, (into that gelatin) with a sterilized needle.
I used a separate piece of paper to "label where everything is".
I even put a couple of drops of (tinkle/urine) very carefully in the 6 o'clock spot inside the petri dish, because I do want to see if something grows from it too.
Now...time will tell the wiser.
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Post by fritolay66 on Nov 5, 2009 17:31:24 GMT -5
A slightly less than 24 hr update. Nada squatta in my petri. ??
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Post by violet on Nov 5, 2009 17:56:57 GMT -5
A slightly less than 24 hr update. Nada squatta in my petri. ?? You are so funny, Frito! :-) I love your sense of humor. I also love your avitar, each time I see it.
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Post by Sidney on Nov 5, 2009 20:05:08 GMT -5
Frito, I started the second culture Monday night. I didn't expect to see any results until Thursday, (today) and sure enought, this morning one area of the petri dish was growing white fluff.
The first culture was begun on a Friday night and I didn't find any growth until the following Monday morning.
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Post by bannanny on Nov 5, 2009 20:31:24 GMT -5
Didn't Sid say to give it more time than that frito? Try to patient sweetie... even if it takes a week ya know?
Jill, can you PM me with info on the Thieves Oil kit since you've become a distributor? I'd really like to try it here... the drywall (or b.t.u., electric, etc.) type of heater Trish suggested is gonna cost way more than I can afford.
We should all be doing the happy dance over this Sid... something's finally being proven here. Makes me cry I'm so happy. I should be able to get a kit soon... do I have to buy 2 or will one do for now? I bet all I'd have to do is brush my arms off in the direction of the dish and it would get the particles in it. I'll definitely be rubbing the goo out of my hands into it tho... along with some hair and some of the flapped out skin growing on my lower lip. Too bad I don't have the teeth pulled yet that are gonna be pulled, cuz I'd throw one of them in a dish too. Especially since my teeth are disintegrating and that's a sign of toxic mold (and morgs.)
After I've put samples from me in one dish, I may buy another one specifically for environmental dust only... and maybe some dirt from outside and try to get a web-like strand in there too. No problem at all with getting samples from me or my environment... we're all saturated with this mess (I'll keep them separate tho of course.)
Who's idea was this originally? Was it yours Sid? All I can say is it's genius... and it's got me feeling some hope too. I'm so glad you thought of this... makes you wonder why it's never been done by any researchers before huh? Anyway, you came up with something really good here I think... and I'm grateful to you for it.
love ya's ~~ bannanny
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Post by toni on Nov 5, 2009 22:26:27 GMT -5
This sure was Sid's idea, and Sid, you're brillant!!!
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Post by Sidney on Nov 6, 2009 1:08:52 GMT -5
Bananny, a woman at another Board did this before I did, but I didn't know it until I found her post a few days ago.
I am NOT "brilliant" Toni-Sue, I must have you really fooled!
Bananny, someone you and I both know and love told me about something she did a couple of months ago. She's been very ill and was coughing up some really nasty stuff, and her husband picked up one of these kits at Lowes. She spat sputum in the culture and nasty stuff began growing. She felt pretty sure it grew Aspergillus niger. (that's a mold.)
So..........I got the idea from her.
I so want others to do this.
I will never be able to forget all the different critters and incredible artifacts I've found within my facial lesions over the years, remembering the critters have all been plant feeders, but one in particular in the larval stage eats only Mold...pretty sure I've read that.
So, I finally got around to getting the Pro-Lab kits and admit I would have been heartsick if nothing had grown, but when it did I almost became physically ill. Gag.....it's beyond horrible to see all this crap growing knowing the mold grew from specimens I got from my own face. My sister was visiting us at the time and we were laughing, jumping up and down and feeling ready to barf, all at the same time.
I want to find some more kits because my next kit will be used for culturing sputum ONLY.
I never had asthma in my life until I got this crap in my face. Never had HIVES in my lilfe until my face was covered in lesions, then one morning I got up with my eyes nearly swollen shut and big hives bumps on my face along with the oozing lesions. Fortunately, the hives went away within a few hours and I've never had them since. That would have been in 1991.
Now I have an assortment of inhalers, both rescue and Advair, a Nebulizer, I wheeze like a bellows and can no longer take care of my flower beds the way I've managed to care for them all this time. I'm not a Pollyanna type. That saying "When Life Hands you Lemons, Make Lemonade," does not work for me. I am mad as hell.
Off with their heads!
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Post by Sidney on Nov 6, 2009 1:34:37 GMT -5
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Post by fritolay66 on Nov 6, 2009 9:08:40 GMT -5
hehe Nanny, patience??!! Yeah, I knew there wouldn't be but can't a girl hope for something? I suppose if it took many years to manifest its ugly head on my body, I should probably give it a few more days....grrrr. I was just pouting. Ah.....thanks V. You seem to catch on to my "humor" instead of taking me so seriously. Happens a lot. Thank you Sid. And thank you for the info on tooth decay. How'd ya know? Frito
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Post by ruth on Nov 6, 2009 11:04:22 GMT -5
sidney, ace said they should have more kits in soon. i think it is an excellent suggestion to culture our coughed up lung crap. then i will really be teed that all those cultures by the doctors grew nothing. from urine and sputum those labs where the cultures were sent need to be CLOSED DOWN Aspergillus niger looks similar too that is why we need an identification from the lab
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Post by Sidney on Nov 6, 2009 11:19:44 GMT -5
sidney, ace said they should have more kits in soon. i think it is an excellent suggestion to culture our coughed up lung crap. then i will really be teed that all those cultures by the doctors grew nothing. from urine and sputum those labs where the cultures were sent need to be CLOSED DOWN Aspergillus niger looks similar too that is why we need an identification from the lab
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Post by Sidney on Nov 6, 2009 11:28:52 GMT -5
sidney, ace said they should have more kits in soon. i think it is an excellent suggestion to culture our coughed up lung crap. then i will really be teed that all those cultures by the doctors grew nothing. from urine and sputum those labs where the cultures were sent need to be CLOSED DOWN Aspergillus niger looks similar too that is why we need an identification from the lab Ruth, Regarding the labs, stupidity and outright lies.....This reminds me of the time I had oozing lesions on my face, was seeing what is supposedly the best of the Derm clinics in Tulsa. As I sat, crying, ugly, in pain, I asked the dermatologist to PLEASE culture a lesion. His reply was "we don't need a culture, we KNOW what it is." I squalled some more and asked him to please culture for Staph, so he took a swab and swabbed a lesion, walked out of the room, came back a few minutes later and reported NO STAPH. Well, hell and DUH....How insulting. Obviously I didn't believe a culture would grow Staph in five minutes. I left and never returned. The diagnosis was always the same. Folliculitis/Acne. Here's a prescription for Cleocin topical, buy a package of Duo-Derm (at nearly $50 a package, and don't pick. Frito, I Googled to learn the connection between mold infection and tooth decay.
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Post by ruth on Nov 6, 2009 12:01:47 GMT -5
www.doctorslounge.com/infections/forums/backup/topic-28487.html John Kenyon, CNA - Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:45 pm Hello - Invasive mold infection and Lyme disease are two of the more frustrating medical problems because of the difficulty in diagnosing in many cases and the fact that they can both share many symptoms. It does sound now as though you may, in fact, have an invasive mold infection, and of course you have an exposure in your history to help bolster that suspicion, so you should be tested. You may need to see an infectious disease specialist, and doctors at the National Institutes of Health have developed a fairly specific test for this, a quantitative real-time PCR assay to detect the 5.8S ribosomal RNA gene of Aspergillus and other molds in the blood. I would strongly suggest you request both a referral to an infectious disease specialist and that you note the name of the PCR essay test to request specifically (it may well be a send-out test, depending on where you live). This should help make the differential diagnosis between Lyme and invasive mold. WE HAVE TO REQUEST IT FROM AN INFECTION SPECIALIST??? WHY WOULD THEY NOT SUGGEST IT TO US? I HOPE IF THE CDC IS NOT FORTHCOMING IN THIS MONTH...... WE CAN GET AN ATTORNEY TO FORCE THEM INTO ACTION SINCE BY THE END OF THE MONTH WE'LL HAVE SEVERAL CULTURES DONES FROM DIFFERENT STATES. YES, I AM SHOUTING
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Post by toni on Nov 6, 2009 12:31:38 GMT -5
Sid, I put your mold culture and Cliff C's pictures next to each other here. I know you were curious if they looked the same. (imho) it's impossible to know by these pictures, only because mold growing (unless it was spectacularly multicolored) looks the same to me, or rather it's impossible to know if they're of the same species without tests. Did Cliff set his 'dish outside'? If so, there's tra-zillions of mold spores blowing in the air. Heck our bed pillows contain 100's if not thousands of mold spores, so out doors, there would be a great variety. I'm not sure as to "why" Cliff would put a petri dish "outside"? (just my thoughts, and maybe I'm not thinking ...but of course there's everything imaginable in the air outside). Now...if there's "man made chemicals"...I could see that being of great importance, because then we're all exposed to that, but if it's "molds/fungi" then that is natural to be there.
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Post by ruth on Nov 6, 2009 13:01:08 GMT -5
i don't worry so much about inside environmental contamination because my house is full of what i grow. i grow mold in my toilet all the time, its' disgusting. every surface in my house has M sliming all over. i am too tired to keep it clean. to my friends' eyes, my house is clean.......i know better. i see it everywhere. clean paper (in this room) is always contaminated before i use it. i recognize the stuff.
i've taken stuff from my ionic breeze and it looks like my stuff, as do the cobwebs contain the same looking stuff. the cobwebs even have the familiar forms in them. i thought spiders were taking the particles i drop and putting them in their webs, but when i try to see a spider.........i never do.
i do have regular spiders and webs in my house too. the webs have the stuff air currents would bring to them like the floaties sticking to them.
i continue to have lots of moths in my house. i borrowed an outdoor zapper and use in my lab room to keep them down down.
all i have to do is flick my hair and the air is full of the white floaties that land on all surfaces.
when i melted my hair (it did not want to burn) i realized none of my hair is uninhabited by this stuff. and that the burning did not hamper its' ability to replicate.
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Post by Sidney on Nov 6, 2009 14:47:23 GMT -5
Toni, thanks so much for posting the image of the petri dish along with my own petri dish.
Go back to the top of the page and click on the first URL which is mold growing on a "body part."
Then go to the second URL and scroll down to read and to view images.
I should have made it clear the Petri Dish image along with many others is from Clifford C.'s website.
Thanks.
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