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Post by ruth on Nov 8, 2009 13:19:50 GMT -5
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Post by toni on Nov 8, 2009 13:30:52 GMT -5
Great pic Ruth!
I'm seeing those (dewy droplets) on my fibers in the petri dish too.
(just what it reminds me of) not sure what they are...but they're scattered all over my "cherry ball looking spores and fibers".
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Post by jeany on Nov 8, 2009 13:35:42 GMT -5
Hi Ruth, doesn't this one look like yours in your slideshow? Look at the little balls attached to the hyphae and the 'star' shaped appendage. Jeany
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Post by ruth on Nov 8, 2009 15:34:29 GMT -5
OMG it looks like an absolute match jeany. i just took a gazillion pics of those "dew" drops. ;D
sounds like you, too, toni, have the same. ;D
sidney, are you able to see the same?
sid, bananny, you can use a mirror (as the plate), the sun (for light), and a magnifying glass and get a pretty good view of small objects. (a window sill is perfect for making this home made microscope)
what do you bet WE'LL have to do the culture and antibiotic sensitivity testing ourselves too
when everyone reports the same growth as the common denominator, we can work on what will kill it by culturing and each one report what abx. with the results by image.
i have a chitload of different leftover abx. but that is a couple weeks away. i've got the package ready to go. i am so excited to know the exact species.
it looks like those hollow looking spheres are the clear balls that run up and down the hyphae and are on the older brown spheres that appear to grow hyphae
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Post by toni on Nov 8, 2009 16:12:49 GMT -5
OMG it looks like an absolute match jeany. i just took a gazillion pics of those "dew" drops. ;D sounds like you, too, toni, have the same. ;D sidney, are you able to see the same? sid, bananny, you can use a mirror (as the plate), the sun (for light), and a magnifying glass and get a pretty good view of small objects. (a window sill is perfect for making this home made microscope) what do you bet WE'LL have to do the culture and antibiotic sensitivity testing ourselves too when everyone reports the same growth as the common denominator, we can work on what will kill it by culturing and each one report what abx. with the results by image. i have a chitload of different leftover abx. but that is a couple weeks away. i've got the package ready to go. i am so excited to know the exact species. it looks like those hollow looking spheres are the clear balls that run up and down the hyphae and are on the older brown spheres that appear to grow hyphae Ruth, I sure agree!!! imho, it's ALL a match!!! Thank you girls!!! This is good enough for me to start trying something. Lets see what treats this and go from there, you know? It sure looks to me like a common denominator! Happy dance!!!
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Post by jeany on Nov 8, 2009 16:35:43 GMT -5
OMG it looks like an absolute match jeany. i just took a gazillion pics of those "dew" drops. ;D sounds like you, too, toni, have the same. ;D sidney, are you able to see the same? sid, bananny, you can use a mirror (as the plate), the sun (for light), and a magnifying glass and get a pretty good view of small objects. (a window sill is perfect for making this home made microscope) what do you bet WE'LL have to do the culture and antibiotic sensitivity testing ourselves too when everyone reports the same growth as the common denominator, we can work on what will kill it by culturing and each one report what abx. with the results by image. i have a chitload of different leftover abx. but that is a couple weeks away. i've got the package ready to go. i am so excited to know the exact species. it looks like those hollow looking spheres are the clear balls that run up and down the hyphae and are on the older brown spheres that appear to grow hyphae Ruth, I sure agree!!! imho, it's ALL a match!!! Thank you girls!!! This is good enough for me to start trying something. Lets see what treats this and go from there, you know? It sure looks to me like a common denominator! Happy dance!!!
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Post by Sidney on Nov 9, 2009 1:53:46 GMT -5
Ulocladium chartarum text and images (a cutaneous mold) tinyurl.com/yf4klxnAltmeyer P, Schon K. Cutaneous granulomas due to the mold fungus Ulocladium chartarum (Preuss) are described in a 58 year old woman. This fungus is usually harmless for mammalian. It is thought that a consisting immunosuppression (Brill-Symmer's disease, therapy with corticosteroids) was a priming condition for the infection. The route of infection in this patient described is unknown. tinyurl.com/yf4klxnImages
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Post by dc10801 on Nov 9, 2009 4:03:18 GMT -5
how many ever treated with steriods before Morgellons?
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Post by toni on Nov 9, 2009 8:09:29 GMT -5
Jeany, love the dance! That's it ;D
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Post by ruth on Nov 9, 2009 12:02:23 GMT -5
what i am not seeing in any of the zygomycetes images are the "dew drop beads".
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Post by toni on Nov 9, 2009 12:07:54 GMT -5
Ruth, I'm going to try and put a hunk of this on a slide so I can really get to it.
I can't touch the dewy looking things or anything really with a needle with it in the petri.
The bottom of the scope is hitting the sides of the petri dish since it's high.
I'm curious too to see if they're dew drops or sporangium (the clear cherry balls).
I'm not sure.
I can see this morning, dewy looking tiny tiny droplets all on the inside of my petri dish - on the top lid.
I'll figure out a way to get some of this onto a slide then I can 'mess with it' more.
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Post by kammy on Nov 9, 2009 12:21:57 GMT -5
Hey guys, I just wanted to throw this out. I purchased a sterile bag of 20 or so Petri Dishes with the potato agar separate on eBay a while back and just mixed up a dozen dishes last night. I think it was around $20 including shipping, this should make approx. 25 dishes total.
It's so simple to homemake your Petri Dishes, you just put the ready-made solution in the microwave for two minutes and then pour it in the dishes and let them sit up and then wrap the dishes up together in plastic wrap or baggies and put them in your refrigerator until you're ready to use one. The instructions come with it.
This might save you money in the long run - if you want to look at many other specimens.
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Post by toni on Nov 9, 2009 13:16:25 GMT -5
Thank you Kammy! ;D Ruth, I think those "dewy drops looking things are immature sporangia"...then they turn dark. Ugh...this is so loaded with clearish like fibers/the hyphae it's unreal. Unreal that it grew so many in such a short time. And the "cherryballs/sporangia" are in it by the gazillions. Clear ones and dark ones.
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Post by toni on Nov 9, 2009 13:37:19 GMT -5
tinypic.com/player.php?v=2yvvr83&s=4I'm using tinypic.com to upload pics and videos because utube (browse) button isn't working?? Oh well. Anyways, hope this works. This is at the 48 hours of growth. The hyphae (fibers netting and growing) as they are, is incredible. The "cherry balls are here" Ruth. I've smashed some with the tip of my needle, they're like tiny grapes sort of. They're the size of these periods at the end of the sentences.
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Post by ruth on Nov 9, 2009 13:55:28 GMT -5
i love those top light shots. my qx3 doesn't take goods pics anymore. it has too much dried slime on it. toni, seeing your pics........those gell balls. if i could see mine with top light would have helped me with perspective. the right side of my nostil, i shoot large round gell balls out spontaneously. it freaked my friend out when it happened over coffee the other morning. it has been happening for over a month now. when you smashed the sporangia, i could see the dark spores (?) anyways............... what i have always referred to a light dots (now dew drops) are actually sporangia...........right??? great video........dr. toni with the hands of a skilled surgeon ;D
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Post by Sidney on Nov 9, 2009 15:33:40 GMT -5
I agree with Ruth. Toni-Sue, you have done such an outstanding job with images from the beginning. I wonder if I would even have the patience to do what you ladies do. Probably neither the skill nor the patience.
I don't want to leave anyone out.....CTBarb, Bananny, GreemaJan, Kammy, Jeany, Ruth, Frito, and everyone who contributes, I am just in awe and very grateful.
I keep thinking about Arnie's images too....and so thankful to have two of his DVD's.
Thanks to everyone here whether you contribute with images or just hang out.
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Post by toni on Nov 9, 2009 16:15:29 GMT -5
Thanks you girls!!!!
And Ruth, yes, I'm glad you saw what I saw too!
When I smash these clear (immature sporangia/spores) (dew drops looking things) hahaha they sure do have dark tiny spores in them (it appears).
I wonder if these (clearish balls) the clear sporangia fill with them, and that's what makes them turn totally dark in a matter of hours they seem to do this.
Anyways, it's ironic that WE all that are testing this in our petri dishes, are growing the SAME exact stuff. That part is really weird.
Why do we ALL have bread and vegetable mold in our skin?
From what I've read on this it's VERY invasive, and usually only attacks those immune suppressed.
And it's a fatal mold...meaning WE HAVE TO rid it.
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Post by Sidney on Nov 9, 2009 17:58:58 GMT -5
I wonder if what Neculai believed were eggs were actually spores? Take a look please. I sure don't know, but mistakes were made in some of the descriptions and these don't look like any Collembola eggs I've seen on the www. www.cdfound.to.it/html/coll7.htm
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Post by toni on Nov 9, 2009 18:18:23 GMT -5
Those could be eggs. They (by the picture) look a bit different than these mold spores do, imho.
It's really hard to tell though, because that picture (in the link) isn't real crisp, if you know what I mean.
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Post by jeany on Nov 9, 2009 18:29:46 GMT -5
Thanks you girls!!!! And Ruth, yes, I'm glad you saw what I saw too! When I smash these clear (immature sporangia/spores) (dew drops looking things) hahaha they sure do have dark tiny spores in them (it appears). I wonder if these (clearish balls) the clear sporangia fill with them, and that's what makes them turn totally dark in a matter of hours they seem to do this. Anyways, it's ironic that WE all that are testing this in our petri dishes, are growing the SAME exact stuff. That part is really weird. Why do we ALL have bread and vegetable mold in our skin? From what I've read on this it's VERY invasive, and usually only attacks those immune suppressed. And it's a fatal mold...meaning WE HAVE TO rid it. Hey Toni..I believe Rhizopus is in the Baculo mix...And it also contains bacteria of the species Burkholderia which causes Melioidosis. Diabetes is the most important risk factor in developing this disease. www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/591461Environmental isolates of the fungus Rhizopus have been shown to harbor a bacterial endosymbiont (Burkholderia) that produces rhixozin, a plant mycotoxin. We sought to define the role of rhizoxin production by endosymbionts in the pathogenesis of mucormycosis. Endosymbiotic bacteria were identified by polymerase chain reaction in 15 (54%) of 28 clinical isolates of Zygomycetes, with 33% of the bacterial strains showing 87% identity to Burkholderia 16S rDNA. The presence of rhizoxin in myclial extracts from fungi harboring bacteria was confirmed by high‐performance liquid chromatography analysis. However, fungal strains with or without endosymbionts did not differ in their ability to cause endothelial cell injury in vitro, nor did antibiotic‐mediated eradication of endosymbionts and rhizoxin production decrease the virulence of fungal strains in mice or flies. In summary, although bacterial endosymbiosis is widely detected in clinical isolates of Zygomycetes, including Rhizopus oryzae strains, we found no evidence that bacterial endosymbionts and rhizoxin contribute to the pathogenesis of mucormycosis in the models studied. Melioidosisen.wikipedia.org/wiki/MelioidosisMelioidosis (also called Whitmore disease or Nightcliff gardener's disease) is an infectious disease caused by a Gram-negative bacterium, Burkholderia pseudomallei, found in soil and water. Symptoms may include pain in chest, bones, or joints; cough; skin infections, lung nodules and pneumonia. Burkholderia pseudomallei is normally found in soil and surface water; a history of contact with soil or surface water is therefore almost invariable in patients with melioidosis; that said, the majority of patients who do have contact with infected soil suffer no ill effects. The single most important risk factor for developing severe melioidosis is diabetes mellitus. Other risk factors include thalassaemia, kidney disease, and occupation (rice paddy farmers). The mode of infection is believed to be either through a break in the skin, or through the inhalation of aerosolized B. pseudomallei.Patients with melioidosis usually have risk factors for disease, such as diabetes, thalassemia, hazardous alcohol use or renal disease, and frequently give a history of occupational or recreational exposure to mud or pooled surface water.However, otherwise healthy patients, including children, may also get melioidosis. Jeany
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